Guild Wars 2

Gaudrath.6725:

BuddhaKeks.4857:

Gaudrath.6725:

Battle bears for Norn (cause we’re so awesome and just be glad I’m not suggesting battle bears with lasers attached to their heads)

Oh attaching lasers to a bear is cool, but attaching one to a blimp is not?

Also: Underwater mounts (= sharks and Quaggan)

It would be cool only if you could straddle said blimp and drive it straight down Zhaitan’s gullet yelling “YEEEEEEEHHHAAAAWWWWW!” the whole time.

That was my suggestion in one of the countless threads about the topic. Kamikaze blimbs ftw.

That thing got blown up, like the other asura gates under LA and Kaineng. There was enough dwarven blackpowder there to blow up a small village. :P

Gaudrath.6725:

Battle bears for Norn (cause we’re so awesome and just be glad I’m not suggesting battle bears with lasers attached to their heads)

Oh attaching lasers to a bear is cool, but attaching one to a blimp is not?

Also: Underwater mounts (= sharks and Quaggan)

It’s pretty much against Anet’s philosphy to make the player evil, they only act evil if they are tricked into it by the bad guys. It’s just there way of writing. The way GW2 is written it’s also impossible to apply. The main story could be rewritten since it’s instanced, but the overworld wouldn’t make sense. In all those dynamic events you help people because you are good guy/gal. Dungeons too, to a degree.

Picking ferocious and dignity is the best you can do, if you even it out, you get “militant”, which is a arrogant jerk, but he/she still has a heart of gold.

Son of Elias.5420:

BuddhaKeks.4857:

I can totally see it, a coalition of humans and Quaggan waging war against the salad heads. They dared to insult Melandru, it’s time for some crusades. Deus vult!

Well, the Quaggan probably wouldn’t care. They don’t worship Melandru.

Besides it being a joke, the Quaggan worship Melaggan who could be the same as Melandru, since Quaggan use Melandru’s statues to worship Melaggan and other races like the Grawl are known to worship gods under different names too (Badazzar = Balthazar, though they probably only worship that one statue in Ascalon). And the same god having different names is actually rather common in real life cultures.

Well I asked him in the thread if “no dragons” includes dragon minions. Let’s see if he will/can answer this.

Martin Kerstein.3071:

Just want to step in here for a second to comment on a few speculations:

There will be no mounts, no Cantha and no dragons coming with this story arc.
Sorry if that destroyed some dreams.

What about dragon minions? Does no dragons include them?

Oglaf.1074:

Giant vikings.

How can you not love Norns?

There are some sick minds out there… Norn haters, criminal scum.

How come horses are often seen in concept art and mentioned in the backstory (in EoD for example) but they never appear in the game (besides the Necrid Horseman and the Celestial Horse)? Do you want to prevent players from thinking they are mounts? (There are so many other cool things you can do with a horse, like pet it, or feed it, or both at the same time! You can also stare at it awkwardly!)

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Nah, it’ll be ready for Gunnar’s Hold story mode – when they go to face Jormag. And in the fight, it’ll crash into the ocean, into Drakkar who’s sinking all the Sanctuaries with his army of Fins of Jormag dragon champions. After the laser just bounces off of Jormag and he goes “lol mind crush you all” leaving the crew a bunch of bumbling drooling idiots turning into icebrood.

Don’t worry, it will be like this:
The main cannon of the Pride is restored and loaded with Caladbolg. The Pact than flies to the north and fires the magical infinity +1 sword at Jormag and they hit his weak point for massive damage. Jormag cries “LOL HAX!” and dies.
Everyone cheers, while the camera pans over all major cities in Tyria. The Pact makes a big party in the Woodland Cascades, joined by their new allies the Ewoks, who took out the Icebrood. Trahearne’s force ghost appears before the player and tells him that the OP-ROFL-One-Hit-Sword will always be with him. Also Laser-gunz pew pew.

Edit: If you are wondering were the Ewoks come from, the Pact used it’s highly adavanced ultra airships to travel to Endor and pick them up, since they desperately need allies.

Bad Element.4613:

@BhuddaKes- Why would you think I have never heard of Primordus? I used to solo him in gw1 you know ;p

Unlikely, he didn’t appear in the game, you are refereing to the Great Destroyer. Also I was making a joke.

Since then are samurai the only people who use horses? >_>

To be honest, if not for the dragons and the ghosts in Ascalon, I think the Charr would have conquered much more human land. However, don’t underestimate the humans, they are very experienced in siege battles, if just one of their fortresses can withstand centuries of Charr attacks (okay it had the supplies via the asura gate, point still stands).

Well most of Khilbron’s undead army seems to be made out of the former Orrian military. Many of them died in Kryta, some hid in the Shards of Orr. I think the rest was turned into Risen Abominations, you know those corpes that were sewn together. And the ghost might be the Risen Wraiths now. Just guessing though.

First off, it’s Tengu* and no they are a normal race, not restless spirits. Also we don’t know if they are immune to dragon corruption but it seems highly unlikely. The same applies to centaurs and grawl. I think there are icebrood grawl in the personal story, if you choose the grawl as the race you want to support.
The centaurs live in northern Kryta, where no dragon is active, the clostest would be either Jormang, Zhaitan or Primordus. But even they are relatively far away, except Primordus maybe but he does not corrupt living things and is still underground in the depths of Tyria (he is so underground in fact, that you probably never even heard of him, but I thought his minions before it was cool /puts on hipster glasses)

Is anyone else feeling the title could be a reference to a certain series of books written by George R.R. Martin?

Anyway, sounds promising. I hope they deliver and we actually get to kill Jormag in march (I don’t want to hang in this dragon story forever :P)

Wasn’t it pushed to April 2013 once? I’m pretty sure I’ve read that somewhere, but that might have been just one of those guessed release dates by amazon.

Gaudrath.6725:

Because they were too small, their engines were too weak and they couldn’t carry enough fuel. Now, are you telling me that any of the above is an issue with the big airship?

And it doesn’t matter if we can’t build more. One is enough for establishing contact.

It’s been a while since I played the story, but wasn’t the Pride of Tyria very heavily damaged in the last battle? And why would you send it away on a quest with unclear outcome, if you have still 3 active dragons on the continent and 2 others waiting to make their turn? And how do you know the Pride of Tyria has enough fuel to cross the ocean? It’s bigger yes, but it was build for a rather short range flights, to combat Zhaitan,

Gaudrath.6725:

Airships we have are tough enough to take a direct hit from an elder dragon and still remain airborne. I doubt that severe winds and an occasional lightning strike would be a problem.

That was the flagship, the one that was so expensive they can’t reproduce it right now. Besides, being combat ready != being able to cross an ocean. Airships were used for combat in WW1, but they weren’t able to fly across the sea yet.

Well the range might still be a problem. Having airships doesn’t mean they are advanced enough yet to fly across an ocean. In real life the first test flight with an airship was in 1900, the first time on flew from Europe over to Amerika was in 1928. Quite a difference.

Well it was personal, until Trahearne walked in… and then it got personal again. /kill bill music playing in the background

Edit: Someone please make a video about the first meeting with Trahearne, with this music playing

Aegrahm.4952:

Personally, I think a sort of terf war would ensue, in which both claim to have Tyria’s best interest at heart but come from different points of veiw.

I can totally see it, a coalition of humans and Quaggan waging war against the salad heads. They dared to insult Melandru, it’s time for some crusades. Deus vult!

Well I’m not a charr, but a statue of a fat asian, holding a biscuit, yet I still feel the need to encourage you. If you have the time and inspiration to right something, just do it. Even if you wont let people read it later, for what ever reasons, I’m sure you will have fun writing it. So go ahead.
Feel free to PM when you are done, I always enjoy reading good stories.

It’s called the wizard’s tower and was also already around in the first Guild Wars, however at a slightly different position. Some villians, like Galrath tried to gain entrance in it and it was up to the player to stop them. No one knew what was inside back then, we only knew it was too dangerous to get Galrath and others get their hands on.

Uhm, read my first post in this thread, this exactly what I said.

Charr also use tools and work together. They are not animals you know (well in a biological sense they are of course, just like humans).

Good ideas, but you really need to improve on the voice acting, especially the guy(s) muffles way too much. I even after watching a scenes several times, I can only barely understand what the male characters are saying.

Son of Elias.5420:

“This can’t be a circle, it’s got right angles.”
“Exactly! It’s got right angles, it must be a circle!”

Happy?

Now, I’m a happy puppy!

Son of Elias.5420:

Wait, what? Konig said that dragon minions are not immune to the corruption of other dragons. Your reply is that this strengthens your position, because the sylvari are immune to the corruption of other dragons.

“This can’t be a circle, it’s got corners.”
“Exactly! It’s got corners, it must be a circle!”

Well technically a circle has an infinite amount of corners… but your argument is still correct.

Yeah I’m faulting Anet for naming it Claw of Jormag. The first time I heard the name, I knew this would happen.

Well Elona is a continent… and a nation!!! http://www.dramabutton.com/

The kingdom of Elona was split after the so called Shattered Dynasty, in which the 3 provinces of Elona became independet nations. That changed briefly when Turai Ossa was the ruler of the whole Elona, but when he left for his pilgrimage that reverted back. But now Elona is unified again, under Palawa Joko, so yes, it is in fact a nation.

Durzlla.6295:

That being said, i’m kinda curious why Engi can’t use maces…

Yeah, especially since a main hand melee weapon would work fine with an off hand pistol. Blowtorch deals more damage the closer the targets are and the snare from Glue Shot would be great for chasing.
And the shield would be much better for melee oriented fighting too, imo. It works as a ranged weapon, but usually the attacks that need to be blocked are the more powerful melee attacks.

But I think polearm could work too, see the stick Kranxx is using in GoA. Just give different settings to the thing, electric, magnetic and maybe even sound based and you have a new weapon.

I think the difficulty is just about right. Played through the game with engineer and ele so far, without major troubles (Estate of Decay was rather annoying, but doable). Maybe you should ask friends/guildies to help you on the hard missions?

4 or 5? I think not even that. We only know of a seer, an ancient seer and a seer corpse during the War in Kryta. That’s 3 at best, if the corpse did not belong to one of the afore mentioned other two. They could have been different seers of course, maybe they look just all the same to us (that’s so racist! xD), but I don’t think so. At the same time, the seer and ancient seer could have been the same, I think the ancient says something like “We meet again” on the fire isles.

I can’t recall Lyssa’s Muse saying anything about any god’s ascension. During GW1’s time we only knew that Grenth ursurped Dhuum and Abaddon had a predeccessor, however no name was given to that and that Balthazar has a half-brother.
Any mention of Arachnia is in the gw.dat only, which we can not count as canon, unless Anet would say so.

GW2 gives us a little more info, with Grenth being Dwayna’s son and also a demi-god at the beginning of his life. However it does say nothing abot the other god’s origins, only that they came through the Mists and arrived in Orr and that Melandru is the oldest of them.

Uhm no it wasn’t, you seem to missremember that one. When we first saw the pale tree it looked liked it already grew for quite a while. And we also didn’t plant any other tree, the only thing we planted were those vine bridges in the Wilds.

The old races did not defeat the dragons, the Mursaat fled Tyria and the other races were hidden by Glint. We don’t know who injured Kralk and made him bleed.

It has nothing about Orr (since we never saw the place in GW1) but it still might interest you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjrQyWjtUsI

Why would a person train to be a necromancer if he/she is afraid of their own minions? x_X

Besides the minions aren’t intelligent, they are mere flesh puppets, held together by magic. If the necromancer looses control over them, they go on a rampage, but they don’t enslave anyone.

1. Concept art of a female centaur: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/9/9e/Centaur_07_concept_art.jpg

Also you should pay more attention, they are in fact in the game, usually the ones that fire rifles.

2. Sylvari are formed after humans, so they copy even the stuff they don’t need (genitals and bellybuttons are just a few)

The exectution was meh, but the idea is good. You don’t really seem to get the premise of the game. It’s that you need all races of Tyria to fight an ED. If Caladbold was the answer to the ED threat, why would you even need the other races, just let the Sylvari roll in and tickle Zhaitans feed with their magical sword of friendship. Done!

This would make the dragons seem lame, imo. However what we have is a team effort, of all races, throwing everything they can at the dragon and building weapons designed to kill them, instead of trusting in magical McGuffin #34 they happened to find in the Pale Tree’s butt.

darkace.8925:

If this were true then asura would have the option to aid the skritt. I was disappointed when I couldn’t choose to aid the skritt with my asura. They had me at “shinny”

Am I the only one not surprised by that? Jeff Grubb once even talked about how the Asura tried to commit genocide on the Skritt. The Asura see the Skritt at best as annoying pests that can be experimented on, at worst as something that has to be eradicated.

What makes you think those lasers can easily be mass produced? “Oh it’s technology and everyone can mass produce technology!” No they can’t. Look at the Pride of Tyria, the flagship of the Pact, the NPCs say about it, that they can’t build another ship of that size because it’s too expensive. You are willing to believe that is impossible to create more than one magic artifact (even though Tyria has houndreds of those) but a highly technological laser is an off-the-peg product? The races of Tyria (except Charr and possbily Asura) have for the most part an economy based on the middle ages, what makes you think they have enough money and resources to build many of those lasers? Yes I know a proto-type is more expensive than the later models, but that doesn’t mean mass-producing is logistically possible.
And again, nothing says that lasers are the solution to every dragon, I mean Primordus for example crawls around in the depths of Tyria, how do bring a giant laser down there? Or what about the Deep Sea Dragon? Do these lasers even work underwater? And the modifications for every dragon could be entirely different, we need to find out about their weaknesses first.

And last but not least, Caladbolg might be underused in the story, but killing a dragon with a magical sword is not unique. Killing a dragon with a giant freaking laser mounted on an airship, I certainly never heard that before.

Not wanting to start a religious debate here, but how do you know he couldn’t if he wanted to? How can you know the Pale Tree can’t make more magic swords or other artifacts?

Spirited Violet.4312:

http://i45.tinypic.com/2jfa8gl.png /o/ Nice story by the way ^^.

Thanks for the pic and thanks for the compliment. You wanted something interesting to read, so I did my best to provide something interesting.

Because so many people shorten it to “Jormag”, I’ve met a bunch of players who actually thought that this is Jormag. Pls shorten it to Claw, to avoid confusion.

Yeah but every dungeon boss kept comming back like this, it’s just game mechanics. Lich-resurrection would be if he came back directly after hitting the ground.

They may look the same, but they aren’t genetically close enough to have fertile offspring. We don’t even know if the two races originate on the same planet. For all we know, Norn could be closer related to the dwarves.

Does he look very agile to you?

Yeah seeing what Arah reveals about the Mursaat, protecting the world seems rather unlikely. I presume it’s more like this:

Brave Sir Mursaat ran away.
Bravely ran away, away!
When danger reared its ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Mursaat turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Bravely taking to his feet
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Sir Mursaat!

- The Ballad of Brave Sir Robin Mursaat