Guild Wars 2

Vash.9183:

Burl.9567:

Brutus.5732:

Vash.9183:

Edit: Like that guy from SoR SEA just said, JQ doesn’t pvdoor them. By saying JQ pvdoor’s, you’re basically saying that your SEA guilds are non-existent.

JQ’s 80-100 vs 20-40 isn’t PvDoor but it isn’t far off. Then throw in a second huge BG zerg when required and you see how silly the numbers get.
BG following behind Waha after 5 minutes and taking empty paper is PvDoor.

Waha has fun now because he isn’t playing to help JQ, in fact he is acting more like an agent of BG. That may not be part of his diabolical plan above but it is the end result.

JQs community hasn’t been to happy with each other lately and is really starting to fracture. Too many guilds with competing philosophies on how they should be playing and they just aren’t gelling together at all. Lots of disagreements and arguing all around. It is getting to the point where some guilds won’t be on the same map with another guild because of these disagreements.

I get the feeling this is Waha’s way of getting some guilds to rally around a common cause. Probably too little too late.

Watch out guys, master of the inner-workings of JQ has spoken. How doth thy know such things? Doth thy be on JQ?

I guess I was right, huh? People unhappy with the current JQ are more than willing to talk about the problems.

BlusterWolf.2103:

RobF.5864:

BlusterWolf.2103:

lol @all ppl believe that Aran guys’ post and blame everything on ATM, keep up the work, forum warriors.

I believe what I see at SEA/OCEAN time zone and guess what? It fits.

Mainly focus on SoR is true, but break moral part jut made up by others, ATM is not that naive hoping to break a server’s moral during its highest time. People just like to add sth more from their point of view into what they see sometimes.

Waha’s dislike for SoR is known. I wouldn’t put it past them/him to say such a thing.

oxide.8324:

BG will happily take SoR’s stuff if they lay so much as a finger on JQ

Can we take a camp at least?

LetoII.3782:

Kathy K.6812:

Vash.9183:

LetoII.3782:

And now the real question,
Since his stated goal is to break SoRsea, Would it be in SoR’s best interest to break JQna.. I’m talking 0ppt camp their spawn all night finish off JQna.

And which is more likely to happen? Who remembers TW in JQ garrison every night, all night? good times eh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CosDdf1dT_o

Why do that to JQ NA? They’ve been SoR’s biggest guild since BG hit tier 1. SF and SG are in BG bl basically every day, lol.

Lol I’m starting to feel sorry for all that work SF and SG put into making sure SoR remained number 1. :/

They’re doing the same thing as BGsea is doing right now with JQsea.
Hoping we don’t come over there
All 3 servers piled together on EB, feels like the front rows at a concert. Everybody lashing around spasmodically with the occasional person falling over dead for no apparent reason.

When I log into EB I start up a macro that spams my 1 ability as fast as possible.

Vash.9183:

Burl.9567:

Brutus.5732:

Vash.9183:

Edit: Like that guy from SoR SEA just said, JQ doesn’t pvdoor them. By saying JQ pvdoor’s, you’re basically saying that your SEA guilds are non-existent.

JQ’s 80-100 vs 20-40 isn’t PvDoor but it isn’t far off. Then throw in a second huge BG zerg when required and you see how silly the numbers get.
BG following behind Waha after 5 minutes and taking empty paper is PvDoor.

Waha has fun now because he isn’t playing to help JQ, in fact he is acting more like an agent of BG. That may not be part of his diabolical plan above but it is the end result.

JQs community hasn’t been to happy with each other lately and is really starting to fracture. Too many guilds with competing philosophies on how they should be playing and they just aren’t gelling together at all. Lots of disagreements and arguing all around. It is getting to the point where some guilds won’t be on the same map with another guild because of these disagreements.

I get the feeling this is Waha’s way of getting some guilds to rally around a common cause. Probably too little too late.

Watch out guys, master of the inner-workings of JQ has spoken. How doth thy know such things? Doth thy be on JQ?

I’d tell you how I know, but then I’d have to kill you. I’m sure you understand of course.

Brutus.5732:

Vash.9183:

Edit: Like that guy from SoR SEA just said, JQ doesn’t pvdoor them. By saying JQ pvdoor’s, you’re basically saying that your SEA guilds are non-existent.

JQ’s 80-100 vs 20-40 isn’t PvDoor but it isn’t far off. Then throw in a second huge BG zerg when required and you see how silly the numbers get.
BG following behind Waha after 5 minutes and taking empty paper is PvDoor.

Waha has fun now because he isn’t playing to help JQ, in fact he is acting more like an agent of BG. That may not be part of his diabolical plan above but it is the end result.

JQs community hasn’t been to happy with each other lately and is really starting to fracture. Too many guilds with competing philosophies on how they should be playing and they just aren’t gelling together at all. Lots of disagreements and arguing all around. It is getting to the point where some guilds won’t be on the same map with another guild because of these disagreements.

I get the feeling this is Waha’s way of getting some guilds to rally around a common cause. Probably too little too late.

Sardonia.8196:

Vash.9183:

Burl.9567:

Vash.9183:

Sardonia.8196:

Vash.9183:

Cicero.3492:

Aran.8659:

“This is from a ATM commander: “And those who didn’t get to see my post, right now SEA time only left ATM, FOO (I believe is coming back) and GE as the main forces and we are trying to break SOR’s SEA morale by washing away all their tier 3 keeps if possible and let their kitteny EU forces feel the pinch. We do not know whether it will work or not but we do know we are having so much fun doing that. So bear with us guys, we will continue that until either major WVW guilds joined us or make SOR break up. This is how we did to SOS and hopefully it will work on SOR.”

SOR I look forward to watching you guys crash and burn

So I am confused here, what you are trying to say is that in order to get more guilds to join you, you have to PvDoor more? And that PvDoor is fun?

No, that is not what he was saying with that part. By that part, he just simply meant that he’s going to keep doing that until they get more wvw guilds to actually shoot for 1st. Until then, he’s saying they are having fun messing with SoR’s EU by scaring off SoR SEA.

Edit: Like that guy from SoR SEA just said, JQ doesn’t pvdoor them. By saying JQ pvdoor’s, you’re basically saying that your SEA guilds are non-existent.

Not sure who they think they are going to scare off. SoR does not have that hight os SEA players to scare off. They do what they can to the best of their abilities against the 2vs1 which is a fair tactic. However, JQ is basically handing the win to BG by doing this. I would think they would want some type of challenge and not just PvD all day long. I would not find that fun but to each their own I guess.

Um… since when does JQ PvD “all day long?” Lol. I was on JQ for a while and followed ATM and they always had a lot to fight. SoR does have decent sized SEA zergs, I don’t care if you have stayed up to see them or not. SAHP/SONG work together nicely. Then SoR EU starts logging in and suddenly… ATM is fighting IRON and KISS, who would have guessed it. IRON/KISS fight ATM every day because SEA guilds are still online when EU starts.

Do you see where this is going?

No.

Of course you don’t. You didn’t have to say anything. Let me point it out for you, though. ATM is not happy with SoR’s EU zergs that they run in to at the end of their shifts. The end.

gg

But the BG zergs are ok during SEA time?

This is what I don’t get. The disparity during EU isn’t as bad as the disparity during SEA, yet EU is where the problem lies. Mystifying, I know…

Vash.9183:

Burl.9567:

Vash.9183:

Sardonia.8196:

Vash.9183:

Cicero.3492:

Aran.8659:

“This is from a ATM commander: “And those who didn’t get to see my post, right now SEA time only left ATM, FOO (I believe is coming back) and GE as the main forces and we are trying to break SOR’s SEA morale by washing away all their tier 3 keeps if possible and let their kitteny EU forces feel the pinch. We do not know whether it will work or not but we do know we are having so much fun doing that. So bear with us guys, we will continue that until either major WVW guilds joined us or make SOR break up. This is how we did to SOS and hopefully it will work on SOR.”

SOR I look forward to watching you guys crash and burn

So I am confused here, what you are trying to say is that in order to get more guilds to join you, you have to PvDoor more? And that PvDoor is fun?

No, that is not what he was saying with that part. By that part, he just simply meant that he’s going to keep doing that until they get more wvw guilds to actually shoot for 1st. Until then, he’s saying they are having fun messing with SoR’s EU by scaring off SoR SEA.

Edit: Like that guy from SoR SEA just said, JQ doesn’t pvdoor them. By saying JQ pvdoor’s, you’re basically saying that your SEA guilds are non-existent.

Not sure who they think they are going to scare off. SoR does not have that hight os SEA players to scare off. They do what they can to the best of their abilities against the 2vs1 which is a fair tactic. However, JQ is basically handing the win to BG by doing this. I would think they would want some type of challenge and not just PvD all day long. I would not find that fun but to each their own I guess.

Um… since when does JQ PvD “all day long?” Lol. I was on JQ for a while and followed ATM and they always had a lot to fight. SoR does have decent sized SEA zergs, I don’t care if you have stayed up to see them or not. SAHP/SONG work together nicely. Then SoR EU starts logging in and suddenly… ATM is fighting IRON and KISS, who would have guessed it. IRON/KISS fight ATM every day because SEA guilds are still online when EU starts.

Do you see where this is going?

No.

Of course you don’t. You didn’t have to say anything. Let me point it out for you, though. ATM is not happy with SoR’s EU zergs that they run in to at the end of their shifts. The end.

gg

Why aren’t they happy with the EU zergs? Did they say something wrong?

Vash.9183:

Sardonia.8196:

Vash.9183:

Cicero.3492:

Aran.8659:

“This is from a ATM commander: “And those who didn’t get to see my post, right now SEA time only left ATM, FOO (I believe is coming back) and GE as the main forces and we are trying to break SOR’s SEA morale by washing away all their tier 3 keeps if possible and let their kitteny EU forces feel the pinch. We do not know whether it will work or not but we do know we are having so much fun doing that. So bear with us guys, we will continue that until either major WVW guilds joined us or make SOR break up. This is how we did to SOS and hopefully it will work on SOR.”

SOR I look forward to watching you guys crash and burn

So I am confused here, what you are trying to say is that in order to get more guilds to join you, you have to PvDoor more? And that PvDoor is fun?

No, that is not what he was saying with that part. By that part, he just simply meant that he’s going to keep doing that until they get more wvw guilds to actually shoot for 1st. Until then, he’s saying they are having fun messing with SoR’s EU by scaring off SoR SEA.

Edit: Like that guy from SoR SEA just said, JQ doesn’t pvdoor them. By saying JQ pvdoor’s, you’re basically saying that your SEA guilds are non-existent.

Not sure who they think they are going to scare off. SoR does not have that hight os SEA players to scare off. They do what they can to the best of their abilities against the 2vs1 which is a fair tactic. However, JQ is basically handing the win to BG by doing this. I would think they would want some type of challenge and not just PvD all day long. I would not find that fun but to each their own I guess.

Um… since when does JQ PvD “all day long?” Lol. I was on JQ for a while and followed ATM and they always had a lot to fight. SoR does have decent sized SEA zergs, I don’t care if you have stayed up to see them or not. SAHP/SONG work together nicely. Then SoR EU starts logging in and suddenly… ATM is fighting IRON and KISS, who would have guessed it. IRON/KISS fight ATM every day because SEA guilds are still online when EU starts.

Do you see where this is going?

No.

From Aran: ""This is from a ATM commander: “And those who didn’t get to see my post, right now SEA time only left ATM, FOO (I believe is coming back) and GE as the main forces and we are trying to break SOR’s SEA morale by washing away all their tier 3 keeps if possible and let their kitteny EU forces feel the pinch. We do not know whether it will work or not but we do know we are having so much fun doing that. So bear with us guys, we will continue that until either major WVW guilds joined us or make SOR break up. This is how we did to SOS and hopefully it will work on SOR.”

SOR I look forward to watching you guys crash and burn"

So in an effort to break SoR apart, you are giving us something to do? Seems like you might have done a better job doing the opposite.

Adding this edit in case he aims to delete is post or get it removed and all subsequent responses.

Fact.5908:

Zhrek.9781:

Man, the Gif’s this week was the best thing going for this thread, and the Mods lock it, how lame. Guess its back to reading the same arguments over and over and over and over.

and over……

What am I, chopped liver?

.gif > Fact

Liquid.9672:

Burl.9567:

@Punny – thank you for confirming what I typed earlier. BG now has played the PvD during NA time slot card.

How do you figure? Does Punny represent all of BG? Should I take everything that you post as representative of SoR?

I was only pointing out the ridiculousness of the statement. Nothing more. You BG are so jumpy lately.

Kathy K.6812:

Burl.9567:

Punny.9210:

well another fact is SoR also pvdoor pretty much during NA time as well because of

their overwhelm numbers during that time. ( especially early NA )

It’s shame for BG though. >>

Did someone seriously say BG gets PvD during NA prime? I’m at a loss for words…

Early NA = NA EST

BG is known to lack an NA EST presence.

“SoR also pvdoor pretty much during NA time” means more than just EST in my opinion.

@Punny – thank you for confirming what I typed earlier. BG now has played the PvD during NA time slot card.

Punny.9210:

well another fact is SoR also pvdoor pretty much during NA time as well because of

their overwhelm numbers during that time. ( especially early NA )

It’s shame for BG though. >>

Did someone seriously say BG gets PvD during NA prime? I’m at a loss for words…

Mindtrick.5190:

The posters above is the first one to point out skill lag in this thread. Bet the other one makes no mention of it. If a majority of you focused on complaining about the lag maybe just maybe Anet would listen.

But continue the tug of war it’s fun to watch people accomplish nothing.

I think we have are all resigned to the fact that they have no interest in getting rid of skill lag. They’ve said the issue is hardware related. That’s about as an easy as a fix you can have. They still have chosen not to address it. What else can we do at this point? They’ve heard the complaints already.

Fuzzion.2504:

Ljiona.9142:

The maps are way to small to have any decent roaming esp with waypoints. Now if you had to walk from your homeland borderland to SM castle, there would be plenty of ganking opportunities.

Their next map they are working on is a GvGvG map aka agramon map

I truly hope this is the case. I wish they fashioned their WvW zones more on the DAOC map system. Unfortunately they did not.

Vash.9183:

covenn.7165:

Vash.9183:

Why does TW insist on making these threads into huge troll-fests? The evidence is in the game. I’m not going to sit here and play your game in the forums.

I am confused as to why you are blaming TW for making this thread into a troll fest when it was your unfounded accusations that were actually the cause. Please explain yourself. Thanks

Anyway, back to wvw where I have been pulling overtime for 12 hours now. Y’know, server rally and all.

Would you have played 12 hours if you didn’t have an “all-call”?

Fade.7658:

The only game I ever played where there was an “all call” was DAoC. I remember many a time when Albion spooled up a relic raid, and the call was sent out, and people logged in specifically to counter said raid. GW2 WvW doesn’t hold a candle to anything DAoC offered, and I’d be surprised if anyone anywhere, held “all calls”.

I only recently started following the match up threads, and I kind of wish I didn’t. All this crying and whining from all three servers. For kitten’s sake, get everyone together, and write some sort of Server charter stating what’s fair and what’s not, so everyone will stop accusing each other over petty crap.

I feel jipped without my .gif Fade.

Vash.9183:

covenn.7165:

Vash.9183:

You are just mad and should obviously just be left alone on this matter.

Watch out Burl! You are quite obviously very mad. I believe him completely.

Do I need to log in to the game and give you a soothing talk and play some soft music because you are being forced into taking vacation from work to slave away for long hours at this game?

Edit: Luckily I got a pass this week from the all-call due to the 20 hour days I put in all last week.

All-call of sorts, as in a server rally. Not a subpoena demanding that you be in WvW or else.

What’s the point of that? If you planned on playing WvW, you still will and if you didn’t plan on playing, you still won’t.

covenn.7165:

Vash.9183:

You are just mad and should obviously just be left alone on this matter.

Watch out Burl! You are quite obviously very mad. I believe him completely.

Do I need to log in to the game and give you a soothing talk and play some soft music because you are being forced into taking vacation from work to slave away for long hours at this game?

Edit: Luckily I got a pass this week from the all-call due to the 20 hour days I put in all last week.

I must have missed the all call as I’m at work. Indo gonna be cranky with us two slackers apparently.

Vash.9183:

Burl.9567:

Rigel.3092:

Burl.9567:

A few guys staying a couple hours later than normal isn’t equated to a “server pulling overtime”.

“A few guys”? You, sir, are hilarious. I have seen whole SoR guilds on more than a few hours during certain time zones that they typically are not, say like as compared to last week. As such, how about define “a few guys” so all of us can get a better picture of what you are attempting to obviously deflect?

Please name said guilds and provide numbers and/or screenshots for verification purposes.

You are just mad and should obviously just be left alone on this matter. Everyone who has been playing WvW knows SoR has had an all-call of sorts going on for the past 2 days. Same thing @Covenn.

We don’t have “all calls” on SoR. No one tells me when I have to play.

Rigel.3092:

Burl.9567:

A few guys staying a couple hours later than normal isn’t equated to a “server pulling overtime”.

“A few guys”? You, sir, are hilarious. I have seen whole SoR guilds on more than a few hours during certain time zones that they typically are not, say like as compared to last week. As such, how about define “a few guys” so all of us can get a better picture of what you are attempting to obviously deflect?

Please name said guilds and provide numbers and/or screenshots for verification purposes.

Vash.9183:

Jscull.2514:

I mean we are lookin for small mans vs small mans. Have literally zero or maybe even negative interest in ppt or Zerging or meta. So if those two servers have groups that don’t run 5/6…. Like i asked its basically pointless right? Cuz a few people have said coming to jq will present us with server matchups against good small man action (along with 60-80 mans which well just flat out avoid)… Trying to find a place to xfer our 5 man to see if any small man action exists before we quit the game entirely.

Well without denying that this match-up is indeed a complete zerg-fest, I won’t deny that there is still roaming groups around. If you’re that close to quitting, then I guess it’s worth a shot. Just know that big zergs need lots of supply camps, so you will essentially be seeing lots of zergs in supply camps. Lol.

I find when we run havok, we are usually unopposed (unless we run into the zerg naturally).

Jscull.2514:

I mean we are lookin for small mans vs small mans. Have literally zero or maybe even negative interest in ppt or Zerging or meta. So if those two servers have groups that don’t run 5/6…. Like i asked its basically pointless right? Cuz a few people have said coming to jq will present us with server matchups against good small man action (along with 60-80 mans which well just flat out avoid)… Trying to find a place to xfer our 5 man to see if any small man action exists before we quit the game entirely.

Stay in the lower tiers.

Vash.9183:

covenn.7165:

Burl.9567:

I must have missed the memo about my own guild having to pull overtime.

Me too.

I saw we had 7 people online and 4 in WvW.

I keep forgetting that 1 tag = the whole borderland being a part of that guild

Yeah, that is still overtime. It’s a commander of your guild who happens to be able to rally a whole map. Not trying to be offensive with the overtime posts, it just happens to be quite a touchy thing to talk about for some of your people. Some BG guilds pull overtime when it’s needed. Like someone just said, it is fun and basically expected in this game. I’m not dissing you for it. Sorry that internet sarcasm is so OP.

You clearly don’t understand the point of my posts….

Jscull.2514:

So I’ve heard that blackgate and sor are all about Zerging and ppt. Some people have said jq would be good for a 5 man to go to, but if sor or blackgate doesn’t really present any small mans to fight that aren’t running 10, it would be pointless to come to any of these servers right?

Right.

Vash.9183:

Burl.9567:

Vash.9183:

Burl.9567:

Vash.9183:

Burl.9567:

oxide.8324:

Burl.9567:

Look at that BG ppt. Gotta be loving that PvD.

Hey not our problem that SoR burnt themselves out with all that overtime

Just because Indo plays 24/7 doesn’t mean everyone does.

Did you even log in yesterday? Or the day before? Welcome back. Your server has been doing overtime.

I think the overtime comments rate right up there with the comments on all the new guilds SoR got.

I think you need to go read the locked thread where it is plainly said that some guilds are pulling overtime. There’s nothing wrong with it.

A few guys staying a couple hours later than normal isn’t equated to a “server pulling overtime”.

If you don’t want to read the thread, then fine. But, who said it was a couple guys? You’re mad. I’m sure the guilds who have pulled overtime won’t really appreciate the hard work just blown off by some guy mad about getting hit so hard in SEA.

Gj to TW, IRON, TW, HIRE, Choo, TW, FEAR, NYS, TW and other guilds who have played earlier or later than their normal time. They have been going full force. Have enjoyed fighting you.

I must have missed the memo about my own guild having to pull overtime.

Vash.9183:

Burl.9567:

Vash.9183:

Burl.9567:

oxide.8324:

Burl.9567:

Look at that BG ppt. Gotta be loving that PvD.

Hey not our problem that SoR burnt themselves out with all that overtime

Just because Indo plays 24/7 doesn’t mean everyone does.

Did you even log in yesterday? Or the day before? Welcome back. Your server has been doing overtime.

I think the overtime comments rate right up there with the comments on all the new guilds SoR got.

I think you need to go read the locked thread where it is plainly said that some guilds are pulling overtime. There’s nothing wrong with it.

A few guys staying a couple hours later than normal isn’t equated to a “server pulling overtime”.

MaLeVoLenT.8129:

Great fights this week. I swear these last few weeks have been awesome. Such close PPT between SoR and BG its awesome.

@ JQ I think you guys are great and I’ve watched you guys evolve overtime since SoS/JQ etc etc. I have noticed your home BL lately has been flipping every color even during NA.

But to be fair the only server that that doesn’t happen to is SoR during NA and that’s because TW on the home map is Godly. Mad props to TW. One day I hope to collect a lot of dem TW bags!

We were thinking of swapping BLs last night after SoR seemed to die down. All of the sudden a 50 man JQ zerg of SG/PRO/pugs zoned in out of nowhere. It was fun.

Vash.9183:

Burl.9567:

oxide.8324:

Burl.9567:

Look at that BG ppt. Gotta be loving that PvD.

Hey not our problem that SoR burnt themselves out with all that overtime

Just because Indo plays 24/7 doesn’t mean everyone does.

Did you even log in yesterday? Or the day before? Welcome back. Your server has been doing overtime.

I think the overtime comments rate right up there with the comments on all the new guilds SoR got.

oxide.8324:

Burl.9567:

Look at that BG ppt. Gotta be loving that PvD.

Hey not our problem that SoR burnt themselves out with all that overtime

Just because Indo plays 24/7 doesn’t mean everyone does.

Vash.9183:

Thurin.5610:

Why do BG and JQ not fight during SEA time or u not playing a PVP game ? or are u play a PPT game. Maybe u 2 should do a race and see who gets most temples during that time!

Good thing SOR cares about fights and not PPT.

The massive overtime, map zergs, and holding of 300+ constant ppt pretty much says it.

No overtime. Your NA and EU is just that bad/fickle. After 2-3 wipes they log off leaving full BLs outmanned.

Look at that BG ppt. Gotta be loving that PvD.

zepp.4109:

SoR doesn’t have SEA coverage.

Now can you guys stop crying about your SEA timezone pls? ^.^

You were saying?

Waage.2047:

Offski.4897:

MagiKarp.8201:

I don’t think so Renmei

Oceanic no way,

SEA maybe, but if SoR had the same SEA as BG (they have more than JQ now) it would be that fabled “HoD 2.0”.

But I don’t think SoR needs any help in SEA right now as they have the sweetest ride in every other timezone. Only reason recently we’ve been able to break SoR’s WP’s during SEA is because ATM isn’t kicking us in the sides every night, I mean they could so easily make us lose this matchup by focusing nothing but us, but Waha isn’t a fool.

It would be interesting to see how well jq would do if ATM actually fought for points for jq, tried to upgrade jq’s keeps/border etc rather than focusing sor with yourselves.

I agree though it is what helps BG compete with SoR. Bg does ok during EU time until east coast NA starts to come on, the real problem for BG is NA and I have no idea why BG does not perform better in that timezone.

That is how every thing is. Also is it true about the 3rd EU guild that have come over to SoR Night something something

We are in talks with 6 SEA guilds, 3 Oceanic guilds and 2 Euro guilds. We are looking to get the money together for their transfers.

covenn.7165:

Vash.9183:

Doubt that is going to happen. SoR morale is very high and it seems they have an all-call going on. Have seen literally every SoR guild in full force, lol. Emphasis on full force.

Going to be a lot of people in trouble at their office for skipping out on work today.

Productivity in the US hits an all time low due to SoR pulling overtime. With as many people as BG says we have, productivity must be down at least 65% here in the US.

Vash.9183:

Sardonia.8196:

Pixelninja.6971:

All was fair and square until SOR took the lead, then it’s all about overstacking, superior coverage, PvDoor, hacking and doubleteaming…

It’s the best Summer in over 20 years in europe, so save some tears until we are back from our summerbreak.

Do not worry. SoR will lose the lead here probably in the next hours or so. But will take it back later hopefully

Doubt that is going to happen. SoR morale is very high and it seems they have an all-call going on. Have seen literally every SoR guild in full force, lol. Emphasis on full force.

All 368 TW are on right now camped out in SM with Indo leading the dance party.

Vash.9183:

covenn.7165:

Nakoor.1980:

Vash.9183:

Kathy K.6812:

MagiKarp.8201:

@SleepingDragon

Yes they do, as do we on every map that MERC isn’t on during Oceanic, yesterday we were “Outnumbered” on BG BL with MERC on map till SoR’s NA logged out.

They are ticking 300 because they’ve logged from EU to NA held their T3 objectives meaning they can go on the offensive. It stays at 300 ppt because HiRE, TW et al can waypoint into a t3 keep or continue to push a map zerg onto our paper keeps in our home bl / 1/2 offensive bls (usually) that is why it stays at 300 ppt, numbers isn’t everything in WvW, SoR can survive its apparently “weak” timezones due to having t3 with map zergs inside, but if you look at ppt today for example, SoR’s NA pushed into oceanic and held 300-400 ppt. SEA rocks round we flip all their wps and bring them down to 95 ppt but that doesn’t last long as we spent all sea getting them there then bang, EU hits our SEA logs out SoR’s ppt goes back to 250+ and BG+JQ do not have the forces to keep pressure up that SoR has through KISS, IRON, LUN, TW and their massive EST NA presence so that our BG PST logs in after 4-6 hours of SoR being able to t3 their bl and thirds ready for NA.

Also our NA fights bloody hard anyone calling them weak, I’d love to see you push back from SoR’s EU/EST domination on days that HB/RK do not raid, SoR can’t deny that from EST NA they have all their maps covered. BT is our only 100% EST NA guild.

SoR’s just jelly cuz MERC isn’t on their server :P

But they do have the new and improved TW! Playing EU, NA, and Oceanic with map zergs in each one! Haha! Hehe. Hoohoo…

gg

TW oceanic? What?

One or two tags and it is a guild group / zerg. You know the drill.

Could almost call it that since it’s the TW tag drawing the numbers. For example, dat TW commander leading the SoR zerg in SoR bl in SEA prime. Not dissing you, it’s just something interesting to see. You guys really pull the numbers.

Indo does great work.

Nakoor.1980:

Vash.9183:

Ardon.4105:

Vash.9183:

Nakoor.1980:

Vash.9183:

Kathy K.6812:

MagiKarp.8201:

@SleepingDragon

Yes they do, as do we on every map that MERC isn’t on during Oceanic, yesterday we were “Outnumbered” on BG BL with MERC on map till SoR’s NA logged out.

They are ticking 300 because they’ve logged from EU to NA held their T3 objectives meaning they can go on the offensive. It stays at 300 ppt because HiRE, TW et al can waypoint into a t3 keep or continue to push a map zerg onto our paper keeps in our home bl / 1/2 offensive bls (usually) that is why it stays at 300 ppt, numbers isn’t everything in WvW, SoR can survive its apparently “weak” timezones due to having t3 with map zergs inside, but if you look at ppt today for example, SoR’s NA pushed into oceanic and held 300-400 ppt. SEA rocks round we flip all their wps and bring them down to 95 ppt but that doesn’t last long as we spent all sea getting them there then bang, EU hits our SEA logs out SoR’s ppt goes back to 250+ and BG+JQ do not have the forces to keep pressure up that SoR has through KISS, IRON, LUN, TW and their massive EST NA presence so that our BG PST logs in after 4-6 hours of SoR being able to t3 their bl and thirds ready for NA.

Also our NA fights bloody hard anyone calling them weak, I’d love to see you push back from SoR’s EU/EST domination on days that HB/RK do not raid, SoR can’t deny that from EST NA they have all their maps covered. BT is our only 100% EST NA guild.

SoR’s just jelly cuz MERC isn’t on their server :P

But they do have the new and improved TW! Playing EU, NA, and Oceanic with map zergs in each one! Haha! Hehe. Hoohoo…

gg

TW oceanic? What?

Have you not been informed of your guild having a commander staying up into oceanic? What?

How about starting in EU?

What.

I’m pretty sure you’re talking to the commander who is usually staying up into oceanic.

Either way I still stand by my point. Not that it means much since it was already obvious to oceanic players. But, anyway.

@Pryan, keep trolling. lol

Gotta keep it going where I can and yes I am the oceanic commander from TW that rolls around at times. Though how does 1 TW commander mean TW has a oceanic force?

Quit stealing Indo’s glory. Indo stays up through Oceanic and SEA commanding on his new Norn that he’s leveled up.

Fact.5908:

The current meta ISN’T to throw numbers at a target. There’s more tactics involved than that, and the top guilds continually involve and try to improve their play.

Ummmmm….I’m glad we’re in agreement? While that isn’t the meta for the top guilds from each server, it very much is for the rest.

Ferris Bewler.9706:

Ok with all the RG talk I would like to interject that KnT has had the opportunity to fight them not GVG but open field on many occasions, on both of their visits to NA tier 1. Just because you don’t GVG them doesn’t mean tha your a crap guild. Believe me we have fought them more times than some of you have GVGed them. Matter of fact I think they have a video of about the nastiest 3 way fight you’ll ever see in GW 2 between us RG and VOTF in the dredge tunnel in EB. But just because we don’t GVG doesn’t mean that we didn’t seek out fights with them.

And another thing , for all the SOR players saying BGs NA is weak, it may no be our strongest time slot, but we have plenty of guilds in that time that you have a ton of trouble facing. So yeah we has a strong oceanic group but I’m tired of you saying BGs NA is crap. If hats the case then the rest of SORs guilds that don’t play prime time NA are also, well terrible. Even though that’s not true, that’s what SOR would have you believe about BGs NA. Get over yourselves.

The quality of NA (maybe other timezones as well) all around has been somewhat lack of late. The current meta right now is to throw numbers at a target until it finally falls. I think a few guilds are starting to distance themselves from this and quality of play is slowly improving. I’m starting to see more 25 mans either wipe or “handle” 50 man blobs as of late.

In terms of BG NA, some guilds have been really fickle as of late. After 1 or 2 wipes they either log for the night or switch BLs completely leaving the unorganized masses to get slaughtered by organized groups.

Bovinity.8610:

I dunno, it didn’t take much effort to post that.

I think the JP is calling your name.

Bovinity.8610:

Lessons learned by SoR guilds after facing RG: “Recruit more!”

<3

You’re trying much to hard.

gebrechen.5643:

Did IRON show up against RG? And can I have the youtube link. Just asking!

I love when people keep bringing this up for the guilds that lost to RG during those GvGs. So what does that make of the guilds that continuously get wiped day in and day out by these guilds that apparently are so bad? They are clearly worse by extension then, correct?

Cirus.5748:

Azure.8412:

Paxi.1386:

So its 2:50 am server time, and SoR is at 350ppt……..what was that about not having an Oceanic presence again?

I reckon it’s cause of MERC’s late start. MERC is BG’s main force. Without MERC, things are pretty much PvDoor for SoR. Same thing can be said for MERC when HIRE doesn’t show up. We have a couple of drunk NA playing too. That’s why.

MERC only get around ~100 PPT when they are literally the only guild tagged up, it’s a credit to the Blackgate Oceanic/SEA and early EU communities that we are able to work so well for each other. And even though I don’t play with EU, EST and PST, I know they do a great job for Blackgate

You may only contribute 100 ppt when MERC is on, but I think you tie up a lot of JQ and SoR in the process allowing your other guilds to do their work. So while you may only have a tangible 100 ppt, you likely contribute more in the 250 ppt range indirectly.

Ardon.4105:

morrolan.9608:

Vash.9183:

So, BG SEA is “so stacked” yet BG’s ppt just went lower in this late EU timezone than SoR’s did during SEA. It is time to stop being so sensitive.

You should realise that any comments are simply in response to the trolling from certain BG players in previous weeks and the hypocrisy displayed.

Which was trolling from certain SoR players in previous months and the hypocrisy displayed. Which was trolling from blah blah blah. These forums are an endless cycle, you’ll go mad trying to find who started what.

We all know what guild started it all way back when the matchups first started between BG and SoR. Unfortunately, we can’t talk about it without getting “megareported” by said guild.

To the BG on JQ BL, you would do better if you split your 70 man zerg up into a couple groups rather than rolling in one big group.

JQ really coming out of the gates fast and kitten this matchup. Nice to see it.

Edit: Apparently “H A R D” gets corrected to kitten…lol

Nakoor.1980:

covenn.7165:

Nakoor.1980:

LetoII.3782:

And JQ plays kingmaker once more.
Pryan in nub. SHAMEFUL DISPLAY

I have dishonored my guild and name.

You should totally fall on your sword now

Will you switch to guardian for me?

Pathiss would be a terrible guardian

Same matchup, good luck all.