Guild Wars 2

Kryyg.8576:

The 2nd link isn’t working for me.

Here it is.

Kryyg.8576:

Nakoor.1980:

TW vs Agg Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFFA04mkujs

TW vs Agg Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxA-pOSPJU=

Agg also has a video up of their PoV.

Those are probably some of the longest GvGs I’ve ever seen. I noticed in 2 fights, AGG actually rezzed up their fully dead guys in the fight, is that allowed in GvG?

Fights usually never last that long, so it probably has never come up before.

Liquid.9672:

covenn.7165:

I did vote to go to DB this week personally, but in retrospect, that would have been a poor choice and might have hurt DB… whereas we are nothing more than a small blip on JQ.

How many votes did BG get? I’m guessing it was two, because Hoots cheated and voted twice.

None. We were afraid of being sucked in and not making it back out.

Sovereign.1093:

^ Wow. I wonder what is player cap per map. I thought it was 80. Does anet have an official say in this?

Anyway, waiting for GVG with SOR. Noms some chicken.

Jayne was clearly drunk and was unable to count correctly. I doubt it really is that high unless EU has a different cap.

Hickeroar.9734:

gmanual.6519:

Atrophied.8725:

So, SoR guilds, I’m curious. I know we’re not really a threat PPT-wise, but how are we on the open-field? I hope we’re providing you with some good fights.
(Also, please stop dropping ACs and Ballistas when you have more people than us, it’s just bad form)

Way too many berserker builds IMO. If you’re going to make it in T1 you need to outlast an initial burst, not just make one and then die.

I’ve noticed this a lot amongst some of our “less trained” militia, and you’re right. Our guilds have an overall good grasp on builds and are pretty sturdy, but we have had trouble with rallying half an enemy force due to the death of one or two squishy militia following a guild group.

This distinct thing happened several times last night, actually. At one point we had essentially wiped an SoR zerg, with 2/3 of it down. We lost a measly two militia, and almost every one of the SoR rallied…which turned the tide of the fight in SoR’s favor.

I’ve noticed that a lot of what seem to be SoR militia are pretty sturdy. How do you properly explain a build to them: A) without coming off as elitists, without offending their precious hard-earned armor, C) in a way that communication is taken constructively and seriously?

SoR does seem to have a great track record in getting militia on-board and trained, and I think it’s a huge part of their success.

The SoR militia (Rallians we call them) are very engaged. Most use the TS and they are actively asking questions about builds and strategies. When a major fight starts up and the squishier Rallians are downed on the initial burst, they miss out on the ensuing fight. Some fights last upwards of 20-30 minutes and no one wants to be sitting on the sideline watching. This in effect forces them to either 1) change their strat to how they approach that situation, 2) go with a sturdier build or 3) change armor to improve survivability.

I personally think the SoR militia are second to none. Months against BG forced the WvW guilds and the militia through brutal training. I personally think their level of play is many months ahead of other servers.

I don’t think anyone’s answer is going to be SoR any longer.

covenn.7165:

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

They would’ve gotten more fight if they transferred to DB. So obviously they didn’t want too little or too much fight, just the right amount. JQ is the Goldilocks server of this match up.

Going to DB would have unfairly influenced their glicko rating. Going to JQ didn’t really change anything. Think about that for a second. Add in that much of TW is from JQ originally and still has friends there…. pretty much a no brainer.

Also, DB has many more guilds willing to GvG and we don’t see them very often. The conspiracy doesn’t really go beyond that, much to the chagrin of many here I’m sure.

Maelwaedd.5842:

salluks.6017:

When IRON was looking to transfer, 4 servers including DB were scouted and , at the time BG was actually dominating and SOR was 3rd and hadn’t won a single game in tier 1, i dont recall BG saying no to IRON at the time.

maybe try recruiting wvw guilds rather than PVX guilds for a change.

SOR got 1 guild and BG has got 6-8 guilds including WM,BT. if u still don’t manage to be competitive, rather than recruiting more and more guilds, maybe look at the core problem?

Actually BG did say no to IRON, they were told that any move to tier 1 would unbalance the tier and were advised to go to a tier 2 server such as TC, DB or FA, they were told the numbers of euro players on BG and JQ, and there would be not be much opposition to there numbers and that current euro timezone scores were a result of SEA guilds staying up late, IRON were told if they chose to move to BG we would do what we could to assist them but our recommendation was to go to tier 2

JQ unfortunately looks less attractive to transfers due to how dominate they have been in tier 1, the fact that a few guilds have left them hasn’t quiet filtered through and JQ could use some transfers, but I doubt that the SEA timezone is where they need their recruits

So you wanted them to transfer to T2 to unbalance that tier? If T1 can’t handle 1 30 man Euro guild moving in, T2 definitely can’t handle it. So BG plays overtime (finally admitting it) to give the impression of Euro coverage and now they are complaining that it attracted Euro guilds to the tier?

We all warned you what all that overtime you guys were putting in was going to do. You didn’t listen. Excuse me if your cries for help fall on deaf ears.

DevonCarver.5370:

but it’s complicated.

I remember my old gf from way back saying the same thing to me once…

Kryyg.8576:

It’s amusing how BG is doing blackouts to get even more guilds.

I mean they are the first server to cry when they lose, first server to gloat when they win, but the last server to try and help balance a tier.

I think it’s pretty safe to say, that you do not need more guilds, just organization. Try doing the right thing and sending your potential recruits to the server that does need them(JQ). At least, SoR refuses transfers and sends them both our way, BG on the other hand cares only about winning it seems and over-stacking their server.

Can you imagine the queue length they would have if their fair weather players decided to all play like they used to?

MalevolenceCO.4120:

Hexxed.8023:

MalevolenceCO.4120:

Hexxed.8023:

zeocen.9850:

Also I’d like to say thanks for SoR and JQ letting me (a BlackGater) stick around and watch the GvG between vH (I think?) and Choo on JQBL. It sucks that some BGers ruined the end fights but I gained a lot of respect for both servers for letting me sit and watch the action (and I don’t blame you for wiping the other BGers, what they were doing wasn’t cool).

They were great fights to watch!

[vH] won’t attack spectators. But we were being attacking by [ons] Onslaught a BG guild multiple times during our GvG with Choo. I personally recorded 11 different BG members hitting our vH team before, and during the actual GvG’s. This isn’t tolerated by any worthy guild. We will rush and smash any fake spectators without hesitation. We are currently trying to find out who is an officer or leader within [ons], we wish to GvG them.

Lmao… oh man. You want to Banner rez veil fight us? 25 stacks of blood lust? for the glory of dropping the coordinated bomb ! Don’t feed us. You’ll regret it. The amount of messages I received from JQ and SoR about GvG is funny. We aren’t a GvG guild however, one day we will step out there just for kittens and giggles. Keep the kitten alive ya’ll.

On a side note what you saw was 3 OnS trolling the kitten out of you guys while the rest of us were just watching laughing at the kitten show. Once you downed the trollers and we told them to stop and we proceeded to try and rez them. You didn’t like that I guess? we finally chilled out and you guys veil bombed us, some people that were just watching on the side. Not even the ones kittening around. You doing this opened the flood gates of hell BTW. vH, I’m sorry next time we see you no matter if you know its coming in a GvG or not.. you will be rustled. You will make another forum post and we will read it and laugh. PS- IDK why those three chose you guys and not Choo but.

So what you’re basically saying is that you’ll interrupt our GvG’s yet [OnS] is too Chihuahua to GvG [vH] when called out directly? And if your members are oh-so-worried about being hit in a GvG, don’t stand 5 feet from the battle. Only ones here laughing is my guild about how hilarious [OnS] is.

No, I’m saying We might hit you when you’re not ready. Because we don’t give a flying kitten about you. Secondly you ran up to us to hit us when the people that didn’t want to get hit stood way back and the people that didn’t give a crap were on the complete opposite side. There might be a time that we GvG in the future. just so you can stroke your self and I’m sure both vH and OnS will both get a lot of laughs. All is fun and games to us try not to take anything seriously because when you do we feed off it. Thanks have a nice day. God bless vH and elitism.

Say something mean about his mom now and turn this rivalry up a notch.

Hey ANet (Devon), would it be possible to have the “rolls” that the servers take displayed a full day in advance that way we can see prospective matchups earlier than matchup launch time?

Liquid.9672:

Yshyr.8709:

Seems the gap between t1 and t2 is only growing. SoS is bleeding points from TC and FA. If the same thing keeps happening we may be stuck with each other for a very very long time.

One of us just needs to roll a large negative number, and someone in T2 a decent positive number. The 150 rating difference between the tiers is still doable, but the odds still favor our match staying the same.

All it will take is one time of this happening and that T2 server is going to bleed off a lot of rating from the other servers in the matchup thus closing the gap once again.

MalevolenceCO.4120:

Burl.9567:

MalevolenceCO.4120:

Burl.9567:

MalevolenceCO.4120:

Hexxed.8023:

zeocen.9850:

Also I’d like to say thanks for SoR and JQ letting me (a BlackGater) stick around and watch the GvG between vH (I think?) and Choo on JQBL. It sucks that some BGers ruined the end fights but I gained a lot of respect for both servers for letting me sit and watch the action (and I don’t blame you for wiping the other BGers, what they were doing wasn’t cool).

They were great fights to watch!

[vH] won’t attack spectators. But we were being attacking by [ons] Onslaught a BG guild multiple times during our GvG with Choo. I personally recorded 11 different BG members hitting our vH team before, and during the actual GvG’s. This isn’t tolerated by any worthy guild. We will rush and smash any fake spectators without hesitation. We are currently trying to find out who is an officer or leader within [ons], we wish to GvG them.

Lmao… oh man. You want to Banner rez veil fight us? 25 stacks of blood lust? for the glory of dropping the coordinated bomb ! Don’t feed us. You’ll regret it. The amount of messages I received from JQ and SoR about GvG is funny. We aren’t a GvG guild however, one day we will step out there just for kittens and giggles. Keep the kitten alive ya’ll.

On a side note what you saw was 3 OnS trolling the kitten out of you guys while the rest of us were just watching laughing at the kitten show. Once you downed the trollers and we told them to stop and we proceeded to try and rez them. You didn’t like that I guess? we finally chilled out and you guys veil bombed us, some people that were just watching on the side. Not even the ones kittening around. You doing this opened the flood gates of hell BTW. vH, I’m sorry next time we see you no matter if you know its coming in a GvG or not.. you will be rustled. You will make another forum post and we will read it and laugh. PS- IDK why those three chose you guys and not Choo but.

Flood gates of hell? Really?

Yes wide open.

Are you going to at least lock it back up when you are done?

Yes. No one will want those to be constantly open.

reluctantly hands over the keys

Alright, be home by 11:00.

Aurust.8961:

TIMMEH.8106:

Burl.9567:

WIGZ.8245:

Don’t really care what happens, Wagonbrand or kitten Coast, either way. Both can field comparable numbers to BG/JQ/SoR. TC and SoR have something in common, server wide blobs per map. Makes WvW look bad when that kind of approach to it is not only necessary but required.

Dat PPT… So boring.

BT is bored already?

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!?!?!

Thats not what he said at all……The server wide zerg blob approach to PPT is boring.

We have been having fun.

Perhaps they are forming a blob in response to the borderland crashing blobs that BT and RISE have been running lately. SOR NA usually has several groups going on a single map during NA prime and only form up to counter a blob….

Whenever we attempted to hit Vale and BT responded this is EXACTLY what happened.

Edit: This is real in game footage complete with ACs and all.

MalevolenceCO.4120:

Burl.9567:

MalevolenceCO.4120:

Hexxed.8023:

zeocen.9850:

Also I’d like to say thanks for SoR and JQ letting me (a BlackGater) stick around and watch the GvG between vH (I think?) and Choo on JQBL. It sucks that some BGers ruined the end fights but I gained a lot of respect for both servers for letting me sit and watch the action (and I don’t blame you for wiping the other BGers, what they were doing wasn’t cool).

They were great fights to watch!

[vH] won’t attack spectators. But we were being attacking by [ons] Onslaught a BG guild multiple times during our GvG with Choo. I personally recorded 11 different BG members hitting our vH team before, and during the actual GvG’s. This isn’t tolerated by any worthy guild. We will rush and smash any fake spectators without hesitation. We are currently trying to find out who is an officer or leader within [ons], we wish to GvG them.

Lmao… oh man. You want to Banner rez veil fight us? 25 stacks of blood lust? for the glory of dropping the coordinated bomb ! Don’t feed us. You’ll regret it. The amount of messages I received from JQ and SoR about GvG is funny. We aren’t a GvG guild however, one day we will step out there just for kittens and giggles. Keep the kitten alive ya’ll.

On a side note what you saw was 3 OnS trolling the kitten out of you guys while the rest of us were just watching laughing at the kitten show. Once you downed the trollers and we told them to stop and we proceeded to try and rez them. You didn’t like that I guess? we finally chilled out and you guys veil bombed us, some people that were just watching on the side. Not even the ones kittening around. You doing this opened the flood gates of hell BTW. vH, I’m sorry next time we see you no matter if you know its coming in a GvG or not.. you will be rustled. You will make another forum post and we will read it and laugh. PS- IDK why those three chose you guys and not Choo but.

Flood gates of hell? Really?

Yes wide open.

Are you going to at least lock it back up when you are done?

MalevolenceCO.4120:

Hexxed.8023:

zeocen.9850:

Also I’d like to say thanks for SoR and JQ letting me (a BlackGater) stick around and watch the GvG between vH (I think?) and Choo on JQBL. It sucks that some BGers ruined the end fights but I gained a lot of respect for both servers for letting me sit and watch the action (and I don’t blame you for wiping the other BGers, what they were doing wasn’t cool).

They were great fights to watch!

[vH] won’t attack spectators. But we were being attacking by [ons] Onslaught a BG guild multiple times during our GvG with Choo. I personally recorded 11 different BG members hitting our vH team before, and during the actual GvG’s. This isn’t tolerated by any worthy guild. We will rush and smash any fake spectators without hesitation. We are currently trying to find out who is an officer or leader within [ons], we wish to GvG them.

Lmao… oh man. You want to Banner rez veil fight us? 25 stacks of blood lust? for the glory of dropping the coordinated bomb ! Don’t feed us. You’ll regret it. The amount of messages I received from JQ and SoR about GvG is funny. We aren’t a GvG guild however, one day we will step out there just for kittens and giggles. Keep the kitten alive ya’ll.

On a side note what you saw was 3 OnS trolling the kitten out of you guys while the rest of us were just watching laughing at the kitten show. Once you downed the trollers and we told them to stop and we proceeded to try and rez them. You didn’t like that I guess? we finally chilled out and you guys veil bombed us, some people that were just watching on the side. Not even the ones kittening around. You doing this opened the flood gates of hell BTW. vH, I’m sorry next time we see you no matter if you know its coming in a GvG or not.. you will be rustled. You will make another forum post and we will read it and laugh. PS- IDK why those three chose you guys and not Choo but.

Flood gates of hell? Really?

WIGZ.8245:

Don’t really care what happens, Wagonbrand or kitten Coast, either way. Both can field comparable numbers to BG/JQ/SoR. TC and SoR have something in common, server wide blobs per map. Makes WvW look bad when that kind of approach to it is not only necessary but required.

Dat PPT… So boring.

BT is bored already?

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!?!?!

wish.1027:

Seriously, why is everyone from TW so bad?
Ive found 6 of your players in the last hour or so alone, and every single one ran from me until 4+ other TW players were around. Except 1 asuran guardian, props to you, but man, you guys are pretty bad. I moved to SOR BL solo to find some good fights, since thats all TW ever brags about. Turns out all they can do is win with numbers, who knew.

You need money for repairs?

Jedbacca.6297:

Burl.9567:

Wotah.2975:

Nightcrawler.2580:

Raven Paradox.1860:

I welcome the double team because it’s more action. As amazing as it sounds, farming bags gets old quickly. Sometimes a wipe is more fun than wiping the opponent.

The only thing that irks me is how big of hypocrites Blackgate is for constantly complaining about 2v1 when it wasn’t happening every single time they are in T1 and then see them stand side by side with JQ. Has nothing to do with WvW. It’s just the poor attitudes that plague these forums that are becoming annoying.

I can guarantee Blackgate would be rushing to these forums if we stood side by side with JQ and took their Garrison.

But, I hope people see these pics and know of this event, because then the games population won’t dwindle by going to the guild graveyard servers.

This actually did happen this week. JQ on the east and SoR on the west and didnt attack each other. JQ breaks into inner, and SoR stays at inner gates stopping BG from getting in. JQ caps it and SoR leaves. SoR member /laughs, I sighed, and nobody on BG posted this on the forums.

Well, you ruined that now didn’t you?!

I was there for this. We let JQ cap it because we couldn’t cap it because of the skill lag. It was atrocious in there. 1 skills weren’t even firing. We figured it was best to let JQ have it and then cap it from them afterwards.

I thought it was because im hugable. I have witnessed both servers let me cap an objective while they stand to the side just to clean upgrades on an objective. I figured the other servers just like giving me things.

I think it is a policy on SoR to not openly admit your hugability Jed.

Wotah.2975:

Nightcrawler.2580:

Raven Paradox.1860:

I welcome the double team because it’s more action. As amazing as it sounds, farming bags gets old quickly. Sometimes a wipe is more fun than wiping the opponent.

The only thing that irks me is how big of hypocrites Blackgate is for constantly complaining about 2v1 when it wasn’t happening every single time they are in T1 and then see them stand side by side with JQ. Has nothing to do with WvW. It’s just the poor attitudes that plague these forums that are becoming annoying.

I can guarantee Blackgate would be rushing to these forums if we stood side by side with JQ and took their Garrison.

But, I hope people see these pics and know of this event, because then the games population won’t dwindle by going to the guild graveyard servers.

This actually did happen this week. JQ on the east and SoR on the west and didnt attack each other. JQ breaks into inner, and SoR stays at inner gates stopping BG from getting in. JQ caps it and SoR leaves. SoR member /laughs, I sighed, and nobody on BG posted this on the forums.

Well, you ruined that now didn’t you?!

I was there for this. We let JQ cap it because we couldn’t cap it because of the skill lag. It was atrocious in there. 1 skills weren’t even firing. We figured it was best to let JQ have it and then cap it from them afterwards.

cyyrix.6105:

Starscream.7803:

AnAltruisticEgoist.5476:

Garrison capped.
SoR got double teamed.
Good times, good times …

2 hours to double team and cap garrison? Good times? i would be embarrassed.

This just makes you look sad. Especially when:

1) Your own server mates literally invited the 2v1 on the forum
2) SoR pioneered the spawn camp 2v1, and tries it constantly

Stop whining. Step up and learn to defend it. BG sure did. I also remember JQ had a textbook defense of their EBG keep a few weeks back.

I think it is more about when you did it, not that you did it.

Wilco.1458:

Burl.9567:

Lead.1784:

It’s just funny how many legit ac spots there are due to the lack of LOS requirement, and yet people keep screaming “HACKS” every time one is used. There is quite a large area around the ac you can man it from, and with the extra radius/range all you need to see is an area close to where you are trying to hit. We got accused the other day because we were using a spot on a ledge outside of blue keep in EB where we could hit inner from. FEAR in particular knows many spots like this, and I have run with them enough to tell you that no one is hacking.

I was thinking the same thing. Every time I look at one of these “hacks”, I just sit here thinking to myself, “Oh…I know that AC spot”.

Trust me, we love discovering new locations to put siege, but this was literally inside the bridge. Not on top, inside. You couldn’t see the AC nor the person manning it. No idea how someone was able to do it, but it wasn’t just a fluke because there were more than one.

I’ve seen it happen and it is happened to me when throwing siege. Bridges are just fluky as kitten. I’ve been knocked back into them, ported into them, fell into them, thrown siege into them, etc.

Lead.1784:

It’s just funny how many legit ac spots there are due to the lack of LOS requirement, and yet people keep screaming “HACKS” every time one is used. There is quite a large area around the ac you can man it from, and with the extra radius/range all you need to see is an area close to where you are trying to hit. We got accused the other day because we were using a spot on a ledge outside of blue keep in EB where we could hit inner from. FEAR in particular knows many spots like this, and I have run with them enough to tell you that no one is hacking.

I was thinking the same thing. Every time I look at one of these “hacks”, I just sit here thinking to myself, “Oh…I know that AC spot”.

Wotah.2975:

Pvp.2758:

Wilco.1458:

Hey, SoR.
Nice job leeching off BG, glitching ACs into the bridge and using zoomhacks to somehow hit all of inner from who knows where, and not even getting capturing Hills. Maybe if you actually attacked legitimately we wouldn’t be so sick of fighting you. It’s a disgrace our supposed “best server NA” has to cheat their way to win.

lol

You can laugh, but if you want to see what we saw we have a picture we can send over to you. BTW it was one of your guildies. Don’t know what it looked like on the other end (yours).

I think we’d all like to see the photos that way we can shame someone.

zhonnika.1784:

Yeah, let’s not start trying to see who has the bigger schwartz. We all know who each other has on the field by now.

Pudding? Hmm. I was gonna set up a jello wrestling pit for BG and SoR earlier, but they seem to have retreated to their respective corners. Maybe someone rang a bell.

Just as well. BG likely couldn’t get the numbers to show up anyways.

Wotah.2975:

kyro.8162:

This whole which servers got the most wvwvw oriented guild got me thinking

JQ
NA (12): WARD, SG, NORD, DA, COF, AoS, EMP, HzH, Myth, SF, BPA, EM
OC (1): TKG
SEA (6): GE, ATM, DC, EDMW, FOO, VAL
EURO (0): -
Misc (2): FIRE, YAKI

From JQ’s aspect for me this looks fairly accurate. In NA time frame (only because I haven’t had enough experience playing in other time zones recently) most of those have no more than 15 on in a zone at anytime.

When referring to zerg size or player count, 15 is always the correct answer.

Raven Paradox.1860:

Hoots.9564:

Evalana.5480:

You are misunderstanding me. We are not hired help. We are here because we want to be here. We are having a lot of fun here. We have been treated with nothing but respect!

Am I the only one missing it here, did someone on BG forget to tell BT what that server is about? BG was formed purely for T1 first place, most of the guilds around you every night were purchased labor. If you think about what I just said, you would realize why BG has such a hard time keeping its players in WvW. BG is a mercenary server, been that way since they first arrived in T1 and then forcefully removed from that T1 spot so long ago. Only “Original” guild left is KnT, and potentially Icoa, that does not mean they don’t have players that have remained since inception, but the guilds around you are for the most part, “payed labor”.

This is true. I was on Blackgate until server transfers became paid. It seemed a lot of it’s members and guilds were more interested in gaining numbers than actually being effective in WvW. A few reasons I left was because no one seemed interested in trying new tactics and people used WvW to level their alts.

I was talking to a current guildy of mine and they made a great point. Blackgate is a server of people that just want first place, where as SoR is a server that wants to just have fun. Through having fun, SoR has grown a LOT. Through wanting to be first place and nothing more, BG has grown a lot… of baddies.

Needless to say, when I was on Blackgate, the guilds fighting now were not besides Icoa and KnT, and possibly EA but I haven’t seen that tag in ages. The only active guild I really see anymore is Icoa. You could add Thai and Urge, but I haven’t even really seen them in ages, besides the gold buyers of Thai doing golem rushes on SM and then losing it 15 minutes later.

KnT fields a sizable force on reset nights. Their group shrinks a lot though as the week goes on.

Jahn.7019:

btowl.7869:

Waage.2047:

Kryyg.8576:

Waage.2047:

Jahn.7019:

Waage.2047:

Jahn.7019:

Kaimick.5109:

Jahn.7019:

Kaimick.5109:

I have gotten use to the Poor NA attitude in fighting on BG, we have some good guilds but yet we go out manned everyday on maps and we are not getting people on to work together. I have also gotten use to the Double Team, and to the JQ person askign why are BG and JQ not Double teaming SoR welll good question. I am sure SoR would love to have the challenge

Sounds like a core problem within BG. I agree with the poster above that BG probably has absorbed a lot, if not the most, wvw orientated guilds of the 3 servers yet their performance does not show. It seems that the entire atmosphere of BG is toxic. You need a strong leader to step up to re-organize the server or the current active wvw guilds should start over somewhere else to be quite frank. It’s obvious the current “eat up as many servers/guilds as possible and we’ll be ok” strategy isn’t working for BG.

That being said, if it requires a 2v1 against SoR, then it requires a 2v1 against SoR. I think most Rallians are used to being the underdog by nature, so a 2v1 would bring that back for them since that’s where they thrive.

You have to realize that where BlackGate has a lot of WvW guilds we have a lot of PvE and PvX guilds. Which might I add also tends to out number the WvW guilds. Even though they should never really matter, some of the WvW guilds are fair weather and negative to a lot of things and eventually that ends up affecting other guilds. I would love to be rid of them but what can we do, hopefully we can eventually get rid of them only time will tell.

That’s a core issue then to be frank. Look at the list which I posted. You could probably even make the argument that BG has the most WvW guilds of any server in any tier and yet they still go out trying to buy guilds over to their server. You should do the right thing and send some of these guilds to other servers that need them more(ie JQ for T1 or FA for T2) and work out your issues within your server. It’s obviously not a population or coverage issue that BG has.

Yes we are the toxic ones. I mean you need to be here on this forum spreading lies about BG because your leadship is so great. I can see how SoR is a great server by your actions alone.

We should learn from you.

psht i heard that IRON was given gold to help move over to SoR so there for SoR BUGHT IRON and that is slavery. SoR is pro slavery.

Two different people who play on BG have come outright in the last 2 pages and said you have issues over there. I’m just analyzing it. If you have a problem, talk to your fellow BGers. You can blame me and paint me to be a bad guy all you want, but it’s not going to fix the problems your server has internally.

edit: Correction 3 different BGers have come out and posted that you guys have severe issues on BG. One of them even going as far as saying they hope some of their WvW guilds leave the server because they are so toxic.

No what they said. What most of them talked about was not issues with in BG as whole, but the fact that where having issues with the new TS! As in because we use a new TS it had made it hard to deal with things.

Also if Kaimick is who i think it is i still don’t care. He is from one guilds and his opinion is his to keep, but most of the others where touching on basic issues like the fact that we have a lot of PvX. LIKE SOR.

Remember how most of SoR stopped showing for a bunch of weeks in a row. SoR always had a strong NA and now you have a STRONG NA and EU. The strongest and yet all you do is sit here and lie. WHY??

You’re always angry, why?

I am not angry. Not every one in the world walk around with there head in the cloud smiling from ear to ear about every thing. I call a tool for a tool.

You’re acting like a tool, Waage, and your slavery comments are out of line.

You know someone is completely out of pocket when they use slavery in their posts. That’s just as bad as the individual from KnT who started referring to the kittens and hitler. I understand you’re emotional, but it’s just a game. There are some lines you just shouldn’t cross.

Not as bad as that BG guy a couple matchups ago. I won’t say what he said as it was that inappropriate, but he blew slavery and hitler out of the water on the vulgarity scale.

Waage.2047:

Hoots.9564:

Evalana.5480:

Wait wait waiiit! We were promised ‘things’? Mmmm nope. They offered to help us xfer but we paid our own way. We have been having tons of fun here. Stop speaking for BG. You’re not even here. Go play in your sandbox and stop peeing in ours. Thanks! <3

Well looks like someone got played! As effective as your guild has been since arriving, its a shame BG did not give you the same deal as the other 2-4 guilds before you that are now dead. Who knows maybe its not too late for BG to pay up!

Hey TW why did you pay to have IRON come over to help you during EU?? I know we RK guys kept beating you and you could only do quick strikes, but did your server really have to pay for transfers to win.

That is really sad TW!.

Such anger. If you would like to submit an expense report for repairs to armor, you need to fill out the pink sheet on Form17493. A TW member will then get back to you if your policy covers it within 6 weeks. At this point you will be subjected to an audit of all internal policies and be run through some skill workshops to hopefully avoid any future repairs.

Thanks
TW Customer Service

oxide.8324:

When people say things like this

GvG’s are the ultimate test of skill in my opinion.

it really makes me laugh. There is very little skill involved in GvG and WvW. As fights become larger in scale, skill becomes less important and coordination becomes more important, simply because the impact that a single player has on a fight becomes less significant. Following a really good commander in a pack, like a herd of sheep, doing what he says, when he says, and winning fights as a result doesn’t mean you’re skilled, it means you’re coordinated.

So coordination is not part of skill? I think there are a lot of athletes that will disagree with you on that one.

muekung.2518:

Aurust.8961:

BG received another guild transfer XF from Kain? Read it in the RE recruitment thread……

PvX Asian guild.

Those BG sure love their PvE.

anzenketh.3759:

Burl.9567:

I’m thinking the matchups that took place (albeit short) actually counted towards the servers ratings leading to some servers rating going up or down on drastic levels that should not have happened.

That makes a lot of sense. Because the matchups did change from the original. This also likely answers the question will we know beforehand the answer is no but we will have a good guess.

I guess we find out if this holds some weight when NA resets. If our matchups look a lot better than theirs, I think we can conclude this is likely what happened.

sendmark.4731:

Devon please can you fix the EU matchup – how did Gunnars end up against Piken and Riverside? Jon Peters made clear this sort of thing wasn’t going to happen, and the maths had it at less than 0.3%.

I’m thinking the matchups that took place (albeit short) actually counted towards the servers ratings leading to some servers rating going up or down on drastic levels that should not have happened.

Yshyr.8709:

Burl.9567:

I hope the hilarity that is ensuing on the EU servers happens for NA as well. Some servers are in two tiers or they are fighting themselves.

That might actually be fun. SoR vs SoR vs SoR.

TW vs Choo vs FEAR

VOLKON.1290:

Burl.9567:

I hope the hilarity that is ensuing on the EU servers happens for NA as well. Some servers are in two tiers or they are fighting themselves.

None of that is accurate. Devon already said we won’t actually know who we’re fighting until we log in to WvW tonight.

You aren’t reading what is going on with the EU reset are you? It’s all messed up.

I hope the hilarity that is ensuing on the EU servers happens for NA as well. Some servers are in two tiers or they are fighting themselves.

XIII.6351:

I’m gonna go for the colors XD
So my guess will be
SoR/TC/Maguuma
BG/DB/Kaineng
JQ/FA/YB

On the other hand, DB vs JQ will be fun to watch.

SoR/BG/TC
JQ/DB/FA

That’s only if we are lucky to actually see a change…

Neuromancer.2148:

Burl.9567:

Are NA servers complaining about coverage during NA prime time now? What a sad state your servers must be in if you can’t get your NA population to play. You want to complain about SEA and EU, fine. I get that. But to complain that your NA can’t compete is just pathetic. The EU guilds thinking of transferring to JQQ and BG should really start looking at the T2 servers instead.

NA servers don’t necessarily mean good NA coverage. I don’t know why people keep insisting on this.

You are playing on a T1 NA server. It’s not an excuse either. You don’t get here without have a good NA presence.

Are NA servers complaining about coverage during NA prime time now? What a sad state your servers must be in if you can’t get your NA population to play. You want to complain about SEA and EU, fine. I get that. But to complain that your NA can’t compete is just pathetic. The EU guilds thinking of transferring to JQQ and BG should really start looking at the T2 servers instead.

Looks like we are stuck together another week.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Update-on-new-matchups/first#post2124865

katsu.4052:

Gina.9148:

CAA.9653:

@ OP. I have a couple of questions. I do not speak for my server. My questions and comments are my own.

What kind of server are you looking for? T1/ T2, mid tier, or low tier?

How many WvW players are we talking about? 15, 30, 50? And how many would actually transfer?

In FA we have a stable community, but we need more coverage. Lets say RE comes to FA. Considering you have already transferred servers, and are now considering transferring again, what would keep you from transferring out of FA if we drop to tier 3? That is, why are you transferring?

Hi~

As of right now, we are honestly unsure of which server/tier that we want to go. Obviously because of how passionate many of our members are about WvW, we want to maximize our enjoyment of WvW, but it does not mean we are looking into t1/t2 only. However, I personally believe that competitive & fun WvW matches can occur in other tiers as well, especially, with this new matchup system which we are very excited to see.

Like I said in the first post, we currently have more than 350 members. The daily RE WvW time we would have ~40 players in our zerg, more on reset. We always have players in WvW during the rest of the day, although it gets slower outside of our primetime. It is hard to estimate but I would say at least 80% of our active members play WvW. Of course some are more WvW oriented than others. I can’t predict how many are transferring but our main goal is to do everything we can to maintain the unity of our guild. None of us want to lose our friends during this process.

Tbh, forum posting makes me anxious :P (I think this is my 3rd post ever on the forum). I made this post for RE but Ethersin and other officers are checking it more regularly than I am. I personally do not want to discuss why we are transferring on this post because I would really like everyone to focus on the main purpose: informing others about who we are and what we want in the future. However, since now we have invited leaders from several severs to our TS today to get to know us better, any questions regarding our decisions will be answered then. If you are interested in joining us during that meeting, please contact Ethersin or myself in game to get more details.

How are you not looking for t1/t2? In a server-wide meeting Ethersin gave the Kaineng community an ultimatum… “if we move to tier 4 we are transferring” (paraphrased)

This just got interesting. grabs popcorn

It’s looking more and more like this thread was just to grab attention and to feed to egos.

fade.8603:

Raven Paradox.1860:

Something interesting about SoR.

Blackgate gets a ton of transfers – a bunch end up quitting/leaving

JQ gets a ton of transfers – a bunch end up quitting/leaving

SoR gets a ton of transfers – Everyone ends up playing everyday and have no thoughts of ever leaving.

That should end any debates about T1 if you wanted to go that far.

Wow, this came out from nowhere. So ur asking him to play in SOR? Srs?

I hope he isn’t. SoR doesn’t need more NA.

Rumor is they are looking at returning them back into the game, but they will not have the same buff as before. They are shooting around ideas about what that “buff” should be. My guess is WXP or something along those lines.

I’d actually wait a few weeks to see how this whole new matchup system plays out.

Otokomae.9356:

Yeah, if you play WvW on a server with even a medium population, you can pretty much remove every key from your keyboard except the “1” key, since that’s the only one that works in battle right now.

Your “1” key works still? Consider yourself lucky. I can’t do anything any longer.

There is lots of organized action going on in Tier 1 and Tier 2.

KyoHanakaze.8145:

Lord Rager.8543:

bet it sells for under 2g

“It’s some exotic called “The Legend,” is that good?"

I’ll give you 20 copper!

fade.8603:

Burl.9567:

fade.8603:

Mayoken.9851:

I’ve talked to you guys before and I’m glad that you guys are finally coming around to your senses. I know when we spoke before you said that Dragonbrand was your top choice in-guild. T2 is very stable between TC/FA/DB. Dragonbrand could use Rethesis’s assistance to match TC’s NA power.

On average early NA we tick around 160-200 and by 9pm EST we are ticking 210-260. I’d like to see our min raised to 200 and max around 300 on average. Rethesis can help us do that. We can of course, as we’ve talked, help you farm the money to aid with the transfers and provide you with your guild channel in public ts3 channel and all those extra things that come with a transfer.

Right now we qeue 2-3 maps a night on average and qeue 3 maps during NA prime on the weekends, so there is space for Rethesis to que up that 4th map.

There are a lot of PvE bonuses and guild mission help we can give to you guys too but just shoot me a message on here since I’m away on vacation. And Ethersin I didn’t get your number so I couldn’t visit when I was in Los Angeles!

If you can get 3 maps queued, its really very impressive already. I don’t even think T1 has 3 maps queued at their very peak?

SoR queues all maps during NA prime. Including reset night and during the week. Stay away from SoR.

Over stacking will make your own guilds(native/transfers) quit totally becos of queue issues. Its like digging your own grave.

Ummm….I agree? That’s why I said to stay away.

fade.8603:

Burl.9567:

Here’s my opinion on where you should go.

SoR – Nope. We don’t need you. Our NA queues up enough as it is. You don’t want to sit in queues and we don’t want ours longer than they are already.

JQ – They could use you. However, they have such a large PvE population it may be tough to transfer in. They seem to have stabilized some after the last round of transfers off.

BG – I wouldn’t go here for the simple fact, after guilds transfer in, they start losing members quickly and the guilds eventually die off or become shells of their former selves. I don’t know if this is because of the community on BG or if the guilds transferring in are on their last leg. Many refer to this as the “black hole” server for guilds. You go in, you don’t come out.

DB – I wouldn’t choose this server. Despite what some people say, their community can be toxic. I got a couple buddies over there and they said you don’t want to be there when they aren’t doing well. A few of the newer transfers have really put a strain on things I guess.

TC – Great guys, but you will never be able to transfer in. Probably the best community in the game though bar none.

FA – I know they need transfers, but I have never went up against them and i know nothing about them.

To sum it up JQ/FA/Tier 3 and below.

Thats sad, to advise someone else on the server, you actually had to put some others down with some hate.

How did I hate on a server? I gave an opinion from what I’ve observed and been told by individuals on other servers. I know the truth hurts sometimes, but there is no hate on my part.