Guild Wars 2

hammer.9721:

here is TW in EBBL last night. have fun enjoy folks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbtU0Dxi7LQ

nice vid i wish i could of read bg chat log when this was happening bet it was epic.why would you run when you have overwhelming odds?

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We are forced to ask this question about every other fight…

covenn.7165:

LetoII.3782:

covenn.7165:

wish.1027:

Im in BG BL ATM and down for some duels (Unless youre a super defensive run away bleed thf/ele/engineer, in which case neither of us will win unless youre bad)
wish.3102

Just saw this post of yours from 16 hours ago. I was still at work then anyway.

Maybe we can have a “find out how bad individual TW members are” event before reset.
I’m game to spring for a PvP room.

TW guild brawl in a PvP room sounds interesting. Losers get guild kicked?

Would be interesting to have a FFA ability in a PvP map as opposed to teams.

fade.8603:

Don’t think BG had any EU transfers lately, perhaps JQ/SOR pugs during EU timezone are demoralized. In fact, iirc BG lost HB’s cmder during EU zone.

BGs SEA presence is just pushing into and through the Euro time slot. Nobody’s EU presence is any different.

Liquid.9672:

Burl.9567:

If anyone dies 1v1 to an ele with a staff, it is time to reroll another class.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=y7tbSdNDnt0

1:52min mark. Epic Staff Ele 1v1 action. Warning: The comments from the peanut gallery are better than the fight.

Ahh SF never fails to deliver the laughs. Thanks guys.

That’s likely just Ace fighting there. Without Bavragor carrying him and telling him what skills to press, he’s pretty average.

MagiKarp.8201:

The sleeping giant has stumbled and fallen over, go home giant, you’re drunk!

I don’t listen to Pokemon.

covenn.7165:

Fuzzion.2504:

covenn.7165:

wish.1027:

My guardian can fail stack bleeds and reset?

Oh you are a guardian. Endless fights with guardians are amusing the first couple of times, but I generally can’t do enough damage to kill you and they definitely stand no chance of killing me. You don’t happen to be the guardian that I fought with for 30 minutes before we gave up and ran in opposite directions (I am a little asura Ele)

A 30 min fight? Thats insane.

Honestly. I don’t bother with guardians, thieves, or ele’s unless the ele is glass cannon or has a staff out. It is just a waste of time.

If anyone dies 1v1 to an ele with a staff, it is time to reroll another class.

Bloodwort MacFangho.4638:

Burl.9567:

Nikked.7365:

Burl.9567:

It isn’t anything to do with the spawn area. We had this problem at hills, bay, briar and lake towers all on the same night. Ended up losing about 15-20 blueprints and about 400 supply when all was said and done.

I’m guessing it is due to the siege timer with despawning blueprints.

I think what Devon was asking is if the Siege Deployment Block stuck to a person after leaving the spawn area (there’s an icon in you boon bar when you are in the spawn area). So, if that block didn’t come off after leaving, we wouldn’t be able to build siege anywhere on the map. This would only effect some people, but not all.

This could explain why a ninja group was able to recap that NE tower with siege after I left. (When I’m commanding, I place most of the siege myself.)

In that case, no. As the siege would work for an individual one time, fail the next 4 and then randomly work again and start failing again after. I wish I was looking at the despawn timer on the siege when it failed, but I forgot to watch it as the siege was building to see if it was bonk.

This may not be related to the person who throws the siege down – but the last person on the chain building who may have the boon buggedly still on them. There is a report above of several people building and getting no warning, then someone reported getting a warning then seeing the despawn.

This is going to be hard to manage with respect to reports since you may notice the despawn, check your boon bar and not seen the debuff but it may have been someone else who doesn’t check or notice that triggers the despawn.

Ah…it took a while, but I’m following the conversation now. I’ll be sure to ask around in map chat to see if any individuals are seeing this.

Kript.3291:

Burl.9567:

Tower Guard.5263:

I would suggest people go back to the first page of this thread and see all the negative comments about BG. They were behind in the weekend so people poked fun at them. And now that they are ahead we get another bunch of negative comments.

classic

The week is not over yet, anything could happen.

I would suggest people go back to the first page of this thread and see the lack of chest thumping BG had been doing. They were behind in the weekend so they didn’t say anything at all except complaints about 2v1 and hacking by the opposing servers. And now that they are ahead, they are out here thumping their chest.

yoy the winner gets the right to chest thump…why would they chest thump when they were losing…

You completely missed the point of my post. Sorry.

MagiKarp.8201:

You wonder why WM didn’t choose your server when you have people like this commanding your forces, bad manners from a bad server.

Nikked.7365:

Burl.9567:

It isn’t anything to do with the spawn area. We had this problem at hills, bay, briar and lake towers all on the same night. Ended up losing about 15-20 blueprints and about 400 supply when all was said and done.

I’m guessing it is due to the siege timer with despawning blueprints.

I think what Devon was asking is if the Siege Deployment Block stuck to a person after leaving the spawn area (there’s an icon in you boon bar when you are in the spawn area). So, if that block didn’t come off after leaving, we wouldn’t be able to build siege anywhere on the map. This would only effect some people, but not all.

This could explain why a ninja group was able to recap that NE tower with siege after I left. (When I’m commanding, I place most of the siege myself.)

In that case, no. As the siege would work for an individual one time, fail the next 4 and then randomly work again and start failing again after. I wish I was looking at the despawn timer on the siege when it failed, but I forgot to watch it as the siege was building to see if it was bonk.

Tower Guard.5263:

I would suggest people go back to the first page of this thread and see all the negative comments about BG. They were behind in the weekend so people poked fun at them. And now that they are ahead we get another bunch of negative comments.

classic

The week is not over yet, anything could happen.

I would suggest people go back to the first page of this thread and see the lack of chest thumping BG had been doing. They were behind in the weekend so they didn’t say anything at all except complaints about 2v1 and hacking by the opposing servers. And now that they are ahead, they are out here thumping their chest.

It isn’t anything to do with the spawn area. We had this problem at hills, bay, briar and lake towers all on the same night. Ended up losing about 15-20 blueprints and about 400 supply when all was said and done.

I’m guessing it is due to the siege timer with despawning blueprints.

oxide.8324:

People on these forums cry about BG getting “mass transfers” when they only really got (half of) 3 guilds: WM, RISE and Meow. WM only ever seems to have 10-20 people online. Meow is a relatively small guild and spends most of their time either running in circles doing nothing or looking for fights, rather than caring about PPT. And according to SoR, RISE are trash and they wipe the floor with them.

The few new transfers got your demoralized crew off their collective kittens and playing again with a renewed sense of vigor. Plus WM has been putting in some crazy hours as of late pushing through Euro timezone right up to Eastern NA.

BG showed they had the ability and coverage to do it all along when they won in tier 1 a few weeks back. For whatever reason, they just stopped playing after that point. Not quite sure why or what happened with all that.

I don’t think it has much to do with the quality of the transfers you got.

NA from KN should have gone to BG and the SEA from KN should have gone to SoR.

Can we end the who should have gone where conversation now?

Liquid.9672:

Avenge.1478:

Not going to lie, I’ve grown a tad bit of respect for the older BG players. They don’t gloat nearly as much as the bandwagoner RISE/WM/etc guilds that have flooded into BG. It’s kind of like that rookie who joins a veteran team who’s worked so hard over the years building up and whatever, only to run their mouths after one victory about how they’re the second coming of Michael Jordan’s 1990’s Bulls.

Should probably hush up a bit ;p

Well, they’re probably excited. Can’t blame them really. In the end, excitement is better than boredom and no will to play or be involved, for any of the servers in a match. I think it is fair to cut these guys a bit of slack.

Also, posts like this https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Tier-1-BG-JQ-SoR-05-03-2013/first#post1969928 have a tendency to cause a reaction when things change. Just sayin.

So it takes one post on a forum to rile up BG to start pulling all nighters and putting extra hours in to compete?

Tortitudo Probo.2598:

chern.8569:

Instead of sharing some love to SOR and make tier1 much more competitive, those random ex-Ta guild, WM and Ruin decide to stack on one server to make a new HOD, so they can zerg and PVD more.
(unlike random ex-Ta guilds who think they are some sort of pvd god, WM is a great guild , so no offence nor discredit to WM though, people are still respecting you guys, just want to point out some facts)

I don’t know if the official WM thread is still around but the one who posted it said he got some crap from SoR players so they chose BG.

If all it takes is a few players on a server to drive WM away, I have a feeling they won’t be on BG long.

Gandalf The Grey.1058:

Awww uncle hmmmmm

Does WM usually play this early into the morning there? You guys trying to burn yourselves out or what?

I can’t help but feel they aren’t listening to us when I see these types of changes. A weekly map rotation would do a lot more in keeping people interested in this game. Instead, they go with more gimmicks.

mezo.9568:

cyyrix.6105:

covenn.7165:

cyyrix.6105:

I don’t think anyone from BG would work out, considering all of your strict rules about no overtime. Still, you might be able to convince me and a few friends if we could get a guarantee on a weekly 15 minute rally speech from Indo before each reset.

…you’d have to share your super secret AC placements too.

edit: don’t forget the piles of gold, either.

We haven’t finished editing them with hero music playing in the background. It take a while to edit them when they’re soooooo loooooong. We only allow Rallians to listen to the glory though, so you might consider transferring over. We’d be happy to show you how to place an arrow cart or two in the process!

Indo gives a weekly motivational speech before reset. Seriously.

In regards to the no overtime policy, that is only in regards to mandatory and/or scheduled overtime. You are free to put in as much time as you desire as long as it isn’t so much that you get burnt out.

Lastly, the super secret arrow cart placement strats are only provided once you have completely transferred and established yourself as a member of the community. Our training classes include cake.

Seriously?! Could someone over on SoR please start posting all of those speeches on YouTube? The entertainment value of that first one is incredible.

We haven’t finished editing them with hero music playing in the background. It takes a while to edit them when they’re soooooo loooooong. We only allow Rallians to listen to the glory though, so you might consider transferring over. We’d be happy to show you how to place an arrow cart or two in the process!

The last speech he gave went a good 42 minutes and included topics such as Immigration Reform, SF Shenanigans and a debate on who really came up with the exclamation point. To hear about these and other great speech topics, please consider joining SoR.

Kindof a major bug to not have a red comment on this. Can we get a Devon response that they are at least aware of this and looking into it?

Lara Croft.5807:

Burl.9567:

Last night in SoR BL we were having an odd issue when deploying ACs. We would place the siege down and start building it and the siege would just up and vanish. No damage was being taken to the siege and no “destroyed siege” animation would play either. It was just up and vanish. This happened to siege placed on walls, the ground and on a supply hut. It was completely random as well when it would disappear as some times it would work.

Has anyone else been experiencing this?

was the tower upgrade finished just in that time? (happened to us when walls upgrade to T2 was becoming 100%)

Nope. We would place the siege down and have 5 people immediately start building. As soon as the AC got up to about 90% built, it would just vanish. It happened about 15 times last night that I know of before I logged off. So much supply lost, it was annoying.

Last night in SoR BL we were having an odd issue when deploying ACs. We would place the siege down and start building it and the siege would just up and vanish. No damage was being taken to the siege and no “destroyed siege” animation would play either. It was just up and vanish. This happened to siege placed on walls, the ground and on a supply hut. It was completely random as well when it would disappear as some times it would work.

Has anyone else been experiencing this?

DevonCarver.5370:

We are in the process of doing a couple of things that should make the matchups less stale and inject variety into the server colors regardless.

New maps??? crosses fingers

Fuzzion.2504:

btowl.7869:

I’ll be honest, Cuddle, whenever I see you, I try my hardest to kill you, even succeeded a few times. Not cause I hate you or anything, you just represent the wrong server. Take it as a measure of love that I want to explode you with bombs, smack you with a wrench and crowbar or shoot you with poison bullets :p
I’ve tried getting pictures but alas, you respawn too fast for me to get the shot set up just right. So the next time a female asura engineer fom [TW] kills you, or you kill me, stick around for a minute or so I’m not hard to spot-I’m the only female asura engineer in the guild.

[TW] kills things?

We are pro at PvE. Our guild is going to start running Arah here in the next week for the first time.

SFShinigami.2015:

Don’t worry. SoR coverage will skyrocket in the next few weeks as schools begin letting out for summer.

What about summer school though? Doh!!!

MagiKarp.8201:

We received Meow, WM, RiSE, KOR and KO

We now have similar if not equal coverage in SEA timezone, the reason we won this week was because we held onto our objectives… I know hard thing to believe that you can cap something in OC/SEA hold it through EU and then give it to NA at T3…

This is why we won, we held 300+ ppt for 3 days straight after that massive 450 ppt NA / Oceanic / SEA by JQ on Monday night (NA) Tuesday for every1 else.

JQ flipped all the maps but didnt hold onto them into NA, I went to sleep that night 260vs260 ppt woke up to 350 ppt, our EU had done a great job in holding and upgrading keeps/tower.

Reason BG has been so successful and survived is our coordination between guilds who are used to working together and the new turnover, we used to have a big gap between NA and Oceanic where JQ would capitalise and take all our stuff, now with MERC starting on the dot Oceanic timezone, eliminate your inefficiencies and win.

I for one am sick of the toxicity coming out of our opponents whenever we win / do well, maybe reflect on this as a server and think about it, maybe this was the reason WM, Meow, RiSE, KO, KOR chose BG over SoR and JQ.

BG, please let the rest of tier 1 know when you are off your pedestal and you are done preaching to us all with your “holier than though” attitude. When you win you come here preaching to us all. When you are losing you are screaming 2v1 and every other excuse that has been used by a losing server (yes this includes JQ and SoR).

Play the game and quit the preaching.

DKNS.2135:

Nihevil.8024:

I’m not sure what’s going on here in the field, anyone care to explain? O.o

With the new despawn timer, such things can only be done if coordinated. A couple of spies/saboteurs can’t do all that. It seems as if JQ went out of their way to plant those things so BG can be blamed again.

No…this was the work of Mongolians.

Nihevil.8024:

I’m not sure what’s going on here in the field, anyone care to explain? O.o

Boredom with AC Wars?

While WvW is slow right now, someone needs to attempt to take a gate down only with ACs.

Dredrum.2563:

When we win it doesn’t count, when we lose we suck and need to get out of the tier, now we win and it is we are stacked and enjoy pvdoor. Everyone here knows it’s the game design and biggest server wins, don’t act like you didn’t see this coming cause both jq and sor have tried to be the most stacked, now u getting beat at your own game.

Says BG who has absorbed 4 or is it 5 servers now? It’s happened so many times I’ve lost track on the number. Yet, it was our game we got beat at…sure.

fragnstein.3486:

Sardonia.8196:

What I do not understand is why these transferred guilds did not go over to SoR. It would have made for a much better and close matchup. BG already had decent coverage and SoR was lacking. WM and others stated they transferred because the fights got boring, well I do not really see much of a difference now. Same thing just different tier. I think if they would have gone to SoR, it would of been better for everyone involved.

You do not get anything for winning anyways and the only thing left it to have good clean even fights. Perhaps it is just me, but to each their own I guess. Congrats BG on the win this week

SoR needs to quit being greedy and offer guilds assistance moving over and getting set up. When a guilds wants to move, and everyone cant afford it, chances are those that cant afford it will leave the guild. Any sensible guild leader will want to get everyone over asap

If you don’t want to invest in the SoR community to be apart of it, then SoR isn’t the place for you. We want people that want to be here, not people that came here because “they paid our way off of our dead server”. Those are the first to bail when things get tough the next time around. Case in point, Agg and FoE.

Besides, we need that cash to buy all those ACs now.

Magical Sky Daddy.7540:

Burl.9567:

Look at all that BG chest thumping. It’s so cute.

wasn’t HIRE talkign kitten on BG’s MERC like 2 days ago lol

Chest thumping about wiping someone over and over and chest thumping because you PvD are a little different.

Look at all that BG chest thumping. It’s so cute.

All I’m going to say is that I really, really, really hate this AC patch. It’s borderline game breaking I think at this point.

LetoII.3782:

Esoteric.5490:

Kryyg.8576:

I never said it was cheap, you guys don’t have any RL commitments which allow you to play for 18+ hours straight.

Congrats is in order for your win, but the chest thumping is quite unnecessary.

Players on all servers frequently sacrifice sleep. I’ve seen Indo stay up until 8am EST for 2 weeks straight holding SoR BL until TSym and AFS confirmed to go over there. That does not mean at all that they do not have real life commitments. Effort being put in shouldn’t be demonized. If anything, those who are intentionally not trying should be demonized for violating the game’s integrity.

I also think you have a very liberal definition of “chest thumping”. Maybe you haven’t read a word in the rest of this thread and don’t realize how tame my little gauntlet being thrown down was. There are now 28 hours and 38 minutes left to make a comeback. Plenty of time. Stop quitting just because kitten got tough.

Rotfl.
This is because we figured out some of our opponents wait till he’s offline to charge in. We keep a rack full of Indo’s “In case of opponents misusing friends list” Just for this purpose in TW world HQ. However, his actual nitenite time is a closely guarded secret..

LIES!!! Indo plays non stop all day every day.

Too bad the SEA contingent from KN didn’t go to SoR with the NA contingent going to BG. I think we would have a really great match going now with all three servers.

We keep hearing how the JQ NA crew always takes it easy because they don’t have to push ever to keep their win intact. Looking at the scores….when are they going to start playing and pushing again during the NA time slot? I’m just not seeing it…

This looks to only be a EU problem. NA is actually pretty good right now.

Debsylvania.7396:

BulletNG.7069:

DevonCarver.5370:

We are not planning on adding a new currency to handle Ascended items in WvW.

So basically you’ll just have to play WvW for 1000 hours to get a chance for a drop. Either that or 2500 Badges.

Typical RNG.

It’s obvious there will be some sort of criteria for earning currency for ascended gear as it’s silly to believe they’d be given away. I’m an extremely casual player and have badges galore piled up, so this news makes me pretty happy. Hours would be ok, too. Drops, not so much, but whatever… I just want some sort of plan laid out so we can start actually getting some gear.

Rumor is it will require 500 badges and 3 virgins sacrificed to ANet per ascended piece. Pretty steep price if you ask me. Not sure I have 500 badges lying around.

We will see ascended gear when those who are only doing their dailies have met the minimum amount of time to get all their ascended gear.

Why do I say that? Many people have been saving their badges since the beginning, including myself. Day 1 when this gets released, they will have all of their ascended gear out of the gate. Many people will cry about doing all those fractals or dailies and how they had to invest time while the WvW crowd got them right away. Allowing all the daily/fractal people to put in their time and get their ascended gear holds the whining to a minimum at least.

I’m think either the next patch or the patch after that will be our ascended gear patch. It doesn’t take that much work to put in a vendor that sells ascended gear for currency. It’s already done they are just biding their time.

Seeing as how many times WM has left a server because it was “dead” and picked another server only to have it die and do the same thing again leads me to believe they are going to continue this trend.

EDIT: @ BenL: If you don’t want the criticism, don’t make the post. He was better off saying nothing.

CrassBippy.4619:

ah yes, the “run in a straight line mashing 1 then using veil again”. This has nothing to do with what’s best for a guild, It’s just people with a superiority complex who like to think they are the sole reason a server starts winning. doing so by abandoning a losing server….. So pointless

Well I got news for ya. Us T1 players can spam 1 with the best of them. Prepare for a fight.

VOLKON.1290:

Coldviper.6794:

uberkingkong.8041:

Why do they always do server maintenance during Jade Quarry primetime?

Interesting. Didn’t know Jade Quarry had it’s very own prime time.

I believe it’s from 00:00 to about 23:59.

Beat me to it.

uberkingkong.8041:

Why do they always do server maintenance during Jade Quarry primetime?

They rolling the patch out already?

Komolov.5903:

Pretty sure they left sbi because they were tired of t1 bs, not because they were bored.

So they came back to the t1 bs?

urek mazino.4026:

Tarkus.4109:

What surprised me last night than anything else Fannwong last night was that all of SoR was centralised on SoR bl, and content to fight 30 guys (who stayed on that map for the very reason that even if we were overwhelmed in terms of numbers, that if you stay on one map we can take the rest of SoR’s ground with the other oceanics who log in). This is not trolling, but I’ve always been curious why SoR runs a full map float in oceanic, because we stopped doing that a while ago for the reasons that is hurting your current ppt.

That is that once you zerg a map to oblivion, you leave all of the rest of your assests completely undefended and often without defensive seige, and if we hit garrison when you are on another map, you can’t do it in halves as it seems to be an all-or nothing tactic.

A SoR commander who used to be on SoS with us PM’ed me last night to ask if I was commanding when the who lake thing happened, and their response is that they weren’t in it for the ppt, which is at odds with a lot of the NA staying up late (I often see a lot of TW and Choo hanging around in the OCX/HIRE blob, and yes I understand they are not technically the full force, just nightowls).

A lot of respect for some of the guys in SoR (a little less for one certain commander who I butted heads with when I was on SoR previously), but I can’t see how you think the fights are fun if you are literally sitting in a massive blob all the time and not achieving a whole lot. Regardless, we’ll you guys on the field.

tl;dr version: Running in a massive blob won’t win you the match

Was JQ not attacking as well?

I cant answer for yesterday, was at work, but on Sunday it was JQ’s massive numbers keeping a large part of our forces on the map. Occasionally, MERC WM and co. would pop in to steal our stuff as well :/

Can a JQ commander please tell those JQ on SoR BL that they are violating the non aggression pact we signed Friday night before reset. We aren’t suppose to attack each other.

VOLKON.1290:

I think people are starting to miss the point. That’s a lot of data to send to a lot of people simultaneously when we already are bumping into skill lag on occasion.

Putting restrictions on your players and your game isn’t a good way to substitute for poor hardware.

MiLkZz.4789:

And you can forget capping anything that is defended by >30 people because the aoe concentration would be so intense anyone walking through would insta die. So you wont be able anymore to go through a gate.

Aoe cap should stay the way it is, it is fine.

You realize there are a LOT of ways to get through the choke unscathed, right? Regardless, it shouldn’t be easy taking an objective from 30 people.

Xirin.8593:

Atherakhia.4086:

Don’t know who you are, but I’m bored at work so figured I’d respond to the thread all the same. Good luck whoever you are with whatever it is you’re doing.

I’m fairly certain 99.9999999% of all posts on this board are due to being bored at work. I sure hope so, at least.

Who’s bright idea was it to have an 8 hour work day?

We all know what is going to happen in this end with all this.

BG will push hard for a few weeks and then eventually they will burn out. They will start losing players again and be right back where they were two weeks ago. They will then look for the next server to absorb and start farming CoF to pay for them to transfer over.

JQ will go back to their casual, lazy play style knowing full well their coverage wins them the match. They will turn it on when they have to, but that won’t be all to often.

SoR will still be here doing the same thing they always have. No highs, no lows, just the steady pace.