Guild Wars 2

Preacher is just mad GvG got more attention from the players than the sPvP which is one of the game mode in GW2. Let him be with his rage.

Vintorez.1605:

Spira.4578:

Buzzcrave.6197:

Spira.4578:

raz.9076:

I too provide services and work in customer support , u know what is our main motto ? “the customer is king” a new one for you probably
in your village u are probably the only company and people never herd of competitors that offer better services better customer care
you must be blessed to be able to tell your client they can kitten off if they don’t do as u great minds say

well in a normal competitive environment – that is not possible

it is if the client is unhappy with the product, he is the king. But as soon as he starts insulting you on a personal level (not the company, but the agent he’s talking with) he becomes nothing more than a person insulting another person. That’s why the calls are being recorded, so if a costumer complains about an agent being too negative, they can actually check who started it

yada yada yada.. Lets put it this way, those GvGers are the devs that are trying to have some fun, but a random customer decided to stand in the middle to troll those devs and when being told to move, he said “I am the customer, I am your king”. Who is insulting who now? There is a limit on provocation, which lead to undesirable consequences.

Got cases like that as well in that case the devs or another person from the company would deal with the customer in a different way – they defenitelly wouldn’t be “omg, that’s so gay of you, tard!” (cause that’s how players reacted)

You seem very pro-anet. Why is that? You don’t seem like a player who only finds entertainment in this game in WvW and its’ daughter forms, so why are you picking on people whose sole source of fun in this game is ridiculed by devs themselves, simply because they can’t monetize it?

Maybe he’s an Anet worker trying to make this thread kittened up so it’ll get lock and no one will see it ever again. Eh what? I’m just doing what you are doing Spira, making fail examples of your life and lame metaphor of war in a kittenty game that people are trying to have fun with.

Gibberish.

Spira.4578:

raz.9076:

I too provide services and work in customer support , u know what is our main motto ? “the customer is king” a new one for you probably
in your village u are probably the only company and people never herd of competitors that offer better services better customer care
you must be blessed to be able to tell your client they can kitten off if they don’t do as u great minds say

well in a normal competitive environment – that is not possible

it is if the client is unhappy with the product, he is the king. But as soon as he starts insulting you on a personal level (not the company, but the agent he’s talking with) he becomes nothing more than a person insulting another person. That’s why the calls are being recorded, so if a costumer complains about an agent being too negative, they can actually check who started it

yada yada yada.. Lets put it this way, those GvGers are the devs that are trying to have some fun, but a random customer decided to stand in the middle to troll those devs and when being told to move, he said “I am the customer, I am your king”. Who is insulting who now? There is a limit on provocation, which lead to undesirable consequences.

guardiaN.1640:

well, the reddit thread got hidden so we have their statement – this one will follow soon i guess

Anet statement on this dev behavior?

raz.9076:

I too provide services and work in customer support , u know what is our main motto ? “the customer is king” a new one for you probably
in your village u are probably the only company and people never herd of competitors that offer better services better customer care
you must be blessed to be able to tell your client they can kitten off if they don’t do as u great minds say

well in a normal competitive environment – that is not possible

You might want to highlight every single word there so he’ll read.

Anyone that is replying to Spira, make sure you highlight your point so he will actually read it. If not just ignore him.

Spira.4578:

Buzzcrave.6197:

Spira.4578:

Kimhyuna.1035:

Spira.4578:

Ahm, ok so i checked the vid and i can see the amount of insulting – coming from the players – starting with “just let the kittenes in the middle die” and continuing by calling him a kitten and telling him to play somewhere else.
Once again – you were insulting him because he wasn’t playing the game based on your rules.

I was working in an ISP center in the past and I must say it.. You people are the kind of ppl that the whole company laughs at.

Here we go again, someone who cant see the underlying issue. I have one thing for you to picture though, how are THEY supposed to play the game when the DEVs implement a crappy matchmaking system that resulted in them steamrolling their opponents?

It’s not about being the best, it’s about doing the best you can do in any given situations – if you didn’t learn that in your life then i don’t have anything else to say to you
-and also, it’s you who doesn’t want to understand :P people were insulting whoever interfered with their gvg game.
You can’t expect anything better from anyone else if you’re a piece of s- yourself ^^

Habib used to say WvW is a mini game(and then decided to quit – he is the first Anet puppet to WvW which is now taken by Devon), which also means players can do GvG in it since it is like a playground. And in order for the GvG to start, no outsider should intrude. You don’t park a car in the middle of a race track. To answer all your gibberish stuff saying the GvG groups are insulting the dev, they won’t do it if the dev doesn’t provoke them by standing in the middle, and then telling the guild leader “he is a big man(sarcastic way)” while popping his tag. This is childish. Do you think people will talk kitten to him if he just sit on the hills like every other spectator? People always judge the consequences without looking at what provoking it to happen.

Indeed you don’t park a car in the middle of a race track.
- and you don’t play a fun wrestling match with your opponents during a war

A war? Anet dev themselves said WvW is a minigame a.k.a playground. Why would you stand in the middle of kids in a sandbox making castle of their own because they like it? You’re the one who is delusional here. And what war is it when SBI lead by a huge number and having 500+ tick. What war is it against the walls and gates that are undefended? What war? You said about making use of the game, that is what they are doing. I’m done with you, you trip too much for any sane person to handle.

Spira.4578:

Kimhyuna.1035:

Spira.4578:

Ahm, ok so i checked the vid and i can see the amount of insulting – coming from the players – starting with “just let the kittenes in the middle die” and continuing by calling him a kitten and telling him to play somewhere else.
Once again – you were insulting him because he wasn’t playing the game based on your rules.

I was working in an ISP center in the past and I must say it.. You people are the kind of ppl that the whole company laughs at.

Here we go again, someone who cant see the underlying issue. I have one thing for you to picture though, how are THEY supposed to play the game when the DEVs implement a crappy matchmaking system that resulted in them steamrolling their opponents?

It’s not about being the best, it’s about doing the best you can do in any given situations – if you didn’t learn that in your life then i don’t have anything else to say to you
-and also, it’s you who doesn’t want to understand :P people were insulting whoever interfered with their gvg game.
You can’t expect anything better from anyone else if you’re a piece of s- yourself ^^

Habib used to say WvW is a mini game(and then decided to quit – he is the first Anet puppet to WvW which is now taken by Devon), which also means players can do GvG in it since it is like a playground. And in order for the GvG to start, no outsider should intrude. You don’t park a car in the middle of a race track. To answer all your gibberish stuff saying the GvG groups are insulting the dev, they won’t do it if the dev doesn’t provoke them by standing in the middle, and then telling the guild leader “he is a big man(sarcastic way)” while popping his tag. This is childish. Do you think people will talk kitten to him if he just sit on the hills like every other spectator? People always judge the consequences without looking at what provoking it to happen.

Esuni.2498:

Having followed Anet since GW1 and how they designed and handled things as a gamedesigner myself.
They have become the opposite of what I thought of them before.
They intentionally make players mad, they intentionally make game modes unballanced and easy, they do not talk to their community, they do not listen to their comunity, they do not fix crucial bugs in their game and they punish feedback with bans.

Truly pathetic behavior from Anet

There is one thing you need to know, most of the people that work on GW1 is gone. I kinda play this game because everyone from GW1 said their customer service is great, and now I’m regretting it. GW1 dev =/= GW2 dev.

Kimhyuna.1035:

lordkrall.7241:

And technically the only real numbers are the numbers Devon have, since he does have exact numbers of the players in WvW and their increase and/or decline. Thus his number is much more likely to be unbiased than …

Is this a joke? ANET would totally tell us population is declining right?
You are blind if you don’t notice the population difference from now compared to at the beginning of the year or even launch.

Corporations always give customers accurate numbers. /s

Yep, this is true. And the fact that they made another free loaders week is just one way for them to make their “population statistic” is increasing when the main reason is because of this dumb free trial.

Centrix.4065:

Keep the discussion in 1 thread though:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Some-ANET-interfered-with-our-GvG

They removed sacrx post on the video link like 30 min after he posted. Just trying to make sure this thread knows about it.

Kimhyuna.1035:

Buzzcrave.6197:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcPTsIAKAbU

22:00 min onward, the truth of Anet dev

WOW, the guy is freaking joke, violating his game mode? Turning on his tag? Why is he acting like he is still in primary school?

What a joke.

Think about it. There are tons of guy like him that contribute to the game mechanic, the class balance and kitten. Can you imagine that? A kid like him that pop his tag to show that he is the boss doing all those kitten. No wonder GW2 is in deep kitten now.

22:00 min onward, the truth of Anet dev

22:00 min onward is how Anet feels about us. Take a deep breath.

Sacrx.6721:

LMAO this is golden!.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcPTsIAKAbU

22mins in the video. Standing there in middle of field clearly trying to troll, hoping they would say get out the way. Ensue guys telling him which is clearly what he wanted the reason he was there in first place. Then get mad? from the drama you wanted and try to act big man with anet tag.

This is just classic comedy material your giving away.

Now we all know how they feel toward GvG. What a joke. Time to board the quitting-the-game-wagon.

Anet having trouble with their server and programming which cause massive lag on blob fight, adding more of this will only be worst. As much as some of the ideas are good, I don’t see it being implemented. And FYI, they won’t upgrade WvW server as it won’t generate them income

Solstice.1097:

Samhayn.2385:

Good idea but things like a server being NA heavy going against a Ocean heavy, so lots of people with no one to fight.

I dont think the oceanics would pay gems just to stack on a server and night cap.

They already do that for free.

They actually do. 2 of the biggest oceanic/SEA guild just joined JQ. Oceanic/Sea are nearly to non existent on lower tiers. It always be the same guild running while on t1 you’ll see hundreds of them. It is sad to be a SEA player like me as I’ll only get blow up fight on every server, some good(will always win) against t3/2 and getting steamrolled against t1. Imagine this when league start, I’ll be only getting one week(sure win) of good fight while the rest are just steamrolled or PvD.

People keep on saying TC is stacked, we’re not. We just have tons of fair-weathers. And PvE. Them PvErs…..

Dasboba.1652:

It’s more likely that they will just quit. It seems like with every passing day less and less guildies are logging on …

This is very likely, and I have to agree since there are less people in my server WvW now. All the faces that I used to see when I transfer to TC are gone. I’m being a little dramatic here, but it’s really sad when that happens.

Joey.2769:

By the end of this first season many new games and consoles for that matter will be out leaving a big question: what are the devs doing to maintain their player base?

I’m thinking of that as well, not now but as in 6 months ago when I quit for 3 months expecting when I come back there will be huge change on the game, but sadly to say there’s non. The only reason I’m sticking with this is because of my guild leader and some of the core members that always do some WvW run and GvG. Since most of them got burned out WvW is not the same anymore. Really one of the reason people stay with GW2 is because of the people, but when they are gone what does GW2 offer? Just the combat that is fluid, but people will get bored of it if there are no opponent(will happen a lot of times when league start) other than that there’s nothing(my point of view).

As for my server, the way I see it we’ll just have one nearly good match up with FA/DB while being steamrolled by over stacked t1 and PvDoor the rest of the league season. You know what this means? 1 week of good match up for the season. A lot of people will quit because of this.

Colly.4073:

Couple of months from now Devon will be sat at his desk staring at his P45 wondering where the hell it all went wrong

I hope he’ll sat on his desk while staring at his termination letter. So much for his sticking up for the WvW players promise(his no 1 word: “SOON”) while what he’s doing is just being an kitten kisser to his employer. Well can’t blame him as it is his job, but if you want to kittened up the customer you are serving, stop giving them sweet promises.

Magnetron.5823:

Ah come on people isn’t it clear already?

Still have insane skill lag
5 dollar budget for WvW ( they gave a 100 dollar bonus for the extra bloodlust points )
Numbers equals winning

Now compare that to PVE

New content every 2 week
New Gem shop items
Bosses/Dungeons updates
Hidden changes in the living world

Should I mention Spvp between this? Nahh, what is Spvp right? Tutorial zone for WvW lol

GuildWars 2 is a PVE focused game, they probally make 90-95% of their money out of it from the PVE side.

I think we should wait for new open world mmo pvp games, its over in GW2 my humble opinion

As what an Alpha tester said, skill lag will never be gone, hence stacking at T1 is a bad idea since Anet will never ever ever ever upgrade WvW server as it won’t generate income for them. Which is why they push up their money on sPvP hoping it’ll be an eSport so they’ll get sponsorship.

Tbh most of the PvE content is just the same setup. Kill 250 mobs, find 50 POI, it’s horrendous. Think it this way, w/o the combat system(this does not include the stupid AI which is pure kitten. Millions of hp and just stay at a spot) I don’t think anyone will have the power to do any of the PvE achievement. And yes I agree too, because I’m as well just waiting for another RvR game.

With the league nearly here and everyone is foolishly stacking up at t1 servers, Anet surely got themselves quite a lot of money. Will it end here? Nope. When t1 players realize that they will only meet their “real” opponent just one time through out the whole league while having blow out match up for the rest of the league, surely a lot of them will transfer to lower tier once they got tired of PvD, especially Oceanic/SEA players. Which also means kaching to Anet.

Well played sir, well played.

Looking at two kittens that only spotted thieves instead of reading the whole thing and straight away making fail assumptions and giving kitten advice.

I feel for you OP, there are people like that, it’s just sad to see how people farm WxP nowdays and truth to be told, it also happen in T2. People rather let their keep be flipped so they can get it again for WxP. There is nothing much you can do right now, maybe try to run tagless with your guildies so those people can’t give out your location.

Kuruk.8472:

Buzzcrave.6197:

This is it. Had enough with PvD for 3 months straight on CD, went to TC to have some fight on SEA time, only to see WM transfer away from KN, and now everyone is stacking up on the same server. Sucks to be SEA players on TC(or any t2 SEA players) when league start, we’ll either fight doors or just severely outnumbered by 3 stacked servers. There won’t be any good “WvW fights” anymore, maybe if we fight FA/DB again, but then that will only happen one time until the end of the league. Personally, I hate how people stacked up on those 3 server but I can’t really blame them for doing so. It seems like getting the “PvE achievement” in WvW is rewarding for them when the real PvE achievement give way better reward than WvW. Meh, who am I to complain, you guys bought the game so you can play as you wish.

I think the main reason guilds transfered to t1 at least before leagues were announced and after the match up changes was mainly just so they would be guaranteed a good fight majority of the time. As it stands, in the last three months most people either get steamrolled or steamroll everyone else. I can see the allure of wanting to go to a server where things are a lot more stable. But of course things won’t stay that way for long, unfortunately for the duration of season 1 everyone will have blowout matches. :/

This is wrong. It’s stupid to stack up on those servers when league come. How many time do you think you’ll get JQ/BG/SOR match up when league start? Only one kittening time. So to all those people that stack up to t1 servers just so they “won’t get steamrolled or steamroll everyone else” anymore is just a kittening dumb kittens.

Have fun getting one week of the match up you want while the remainder months are just blown up matches. Geniuses.

Solstice.1097:

..the game is maturing and players are reaching end-game. they’ve found the class(es) they like and got their gear and appearance they are happy with and aren’t broke anymore, etc. Now they move on to PvP and WvW which is really the end-game for GW2.

The #s going up has nothing to do with WvW changes and has everything to do with the increasing average tenure of your player base.

GW2 WvW is a friggin awesome idea at its core. Just look at how much we all care, even pleading and begging on the forums to fix broken mechanics a YEAR LATER, and yet we are still playing the game despite how neglected we feel.

But why are we still playing? Because we know what WvW can and should be, and we are in love with THAT idea and it’s all of us collectively hoping it someday comes to exist that has kept us around so far.

In the meantime we have even attempted to create our own fun and competition to get us by; take fight nights and GvGs for example. Why did we? Because sPvP is boring and WvW is not competitive. Now those too are bordering extinction due to recent changes.

We are being forced to choose between either skill lag and queues or complete blowouts.

I feel that you’re making decisions based on WvW population #s that would have gone up anyway, and that if you could see a graph of what COULD HAVE been and compared it to reality, you’d realize how big of an opportunity continues to be missed here. Other games like ESO are watching you closely and learning from your mistakes. Lucky for you, there is still time to secure your game’s lasting place in the market. But I’m afraid that at this rate by the time you have enough “data” to realize what you need to do to fulfill the awesomesauce that GW2 WvW could and should be, everyone will have already moved on with prejudice.

TL;DR – your data is misleading you and the clock is ticking

The only reason hardcore wvw still play this game is because there’s no RvR game out there with this fluid combat system. The combat system of GW2 is the one thing that keeps the players stay. Once there’s a RvR game is out with better combat system and most important is a dev team that does not break their manifesto, I’m pretty sure 80% of WvW players will fly there and try it, and hopefully never come back.

This is it. Had enough with PvD for 3 months straight on CD, went to TC to have some fight on SEA time, only to see WM transfer away from KN, and now everyone is stacking up on the same server. Sucks to be SEA players on TC(or any t2 SEA players) when league start, we’ll either fight doors or just severely outnumbered by 3 stacked servers. There won’t be any good “WvW fights” anymore, maybe if we fight FA/DB again, but then that will only happen one time until the end of the league. Personally, I hate how people stacked up on those 3 server but I can’t really blame them for doing so. It seems like getting the “PvE achievement” in WvW is rewarding for them when the real PvE achievement give way better reward than WvW. Meh, who am I to complain, you guys bought the game so you can play as you wish.

I must be playing at the wrong time. People keep on talking about good roaming fight but all I’m seeing is just 10 people ganking on 1 roamer.

They give outmanned buff to make you go out and fight without worrying about repairs, but at the same time they make your zergy opponent stronger with the bloodlust buff so that you can’t even have a fight to start with.

Only monkeys can understand Anet way of thinking.

Seigfried.5938:

I would really love anet to explain to us all the solutions to skill lag. Is it only the coding or the server hardware too?

There is no solution to skill lag, it will always be there unless Anet decided to throw some money and upgrade their server. But it’ll never happen. On their mind now is just to make sPvP as an eSport=sponsorship=money. What will they get if they throw away their money to fix WvW issues? Nothing, they’ll even lose a lot of money.

Lets get real, no matter how people say Anet was good back then(GW1), they are not the same people in GW2, just a bunch of kitten sucker for money to me.

Maybe if people would refrain from posting such provocative post then this will be a good PvF match up, but oh wait… Whom am I kidding, we’re just trolls.

Just to stay with the topic, PvF score anyone?

Look. Most of you here are QQing on M/Sh+GS. But you’re asking for a nerf that will hurt Hammer/X worst than the latter. Just because you can’t faceroll that build, don’t ask for a nerf that will hurt another legit build.

Think this carefully.

SykkoB.9465:

Buzzcrave.6197:

SykkoB.9465:

Buzzcrave.6197:

Joni.6830:

Jinks.2057:

T1 has no one but themselves to blame for the skill lag there

T1 has themselves to blame? Are you kittening kidding me? WvW favours big blobs.

It’s GAME DESIGN. If it weren’t more powerful people wouldn’t do it.

No! T1 servers have themselves to blame simply because they can go to t2/3 and fill those servers up for more fair tier match, but instead they bandwagon to t1 in order to get the full benefit of WvW(karma train/WxP) and the future rewards(League winners). However, they are a complete joke. Why? Everyone knows WvW rewards are complete kitten, you might as well just PvE to get a better “rewards”.

this is such a silly argument. SO blame t1 for anet failing to test there servers/engine properly? if the servers cant handle the QUE sizes they have now, then its anet fault, and they need to adjust the que to a cap size there dam engines/servers can handle.

the lag in this game is not just a t1 problem, it happens in all tiers. I also get that the players have the fault in stacking, but that again is not just a t1 problem, t2 is far more stacked then t3 and t3 from t4.

Yes it is Anet fault, and it is the players fault as well. Most players are well aware of how the skill lag occurs and yet they still transfer to the most populated servers, and then complain about skill lag. There should be a limit on stupidity.

If Anet make transferring to lower tiers servers for free, then hopefully we’ll have more servers with balance population resulting on a healthy match up. Knowing how Anet is a sucker for money(still trying to make sPvP as an eSport so they’ll get sponsorship), I know it’ll never happened. So it’s up to the players to man up and just transfer out from the stacked servers.

p/s: Fyi, from the mouth of an alpha tester, Anet only test their game/class balancing using sPvP. WvW was hardly being touch by them. This is just another fact on how WvW is just a mini game for Anet. We, the WvW players should never hope any fixes from Anet as they don’t give a kitten on WvW, so it is up to us to “fix” it.

so you know tc is the 4th most stacked server right?? and so im guessing your saying ppl should transfer off tc also ? just wanted to make sure your not telling others what to do without taking your own advice

First of all, I’m playing on SEA timezone. So no skill lag does not happened frequently as there are not many servers that have SEA players. Back on the day when I was at CD, we’re just PvDoor for 2-3 months straight, w/o any opposition at all. When we decided to move to TC, it is mainly because War Machine is in KN, and we want to face them(sadly they transfer few weeks later). So, here I am, stuck in a spot where facing t1 servers will only mean us having 50ish on all 3 map on SEA time facing their massive 80 man in every map. Funny thing is when we face same/lower tier, we usually outnumbered them by a lot which is why I suggest for the players that are on the stacked servers, just move out from there and go to t2/3. I’d love it if you move to t2/3 and face us in TC as we really need SEA players to spread out so every week we’ll get opponent.

Monsoon.2589:

I had taken a break for a month and a half and came back today. I had hopes things would have improved somehow. I was disappointed.

JQ and FA just attacked SM… It was unplayable !

Sure one can move around and jump but that is it

- Could not swap weapons
- Could not cast anything but skill 1 (if lucky)
- Could not cast heals
- Could not cast any down state skills

Even skill 1 would show an animation but basically do nothing. WvW in SM is simply unplayable. People with escape skills due to lag are able to use such skills for 20+ seconds. You work on upgrading SM for hours only to have it taken in minutes due to blob creating skill lag. Not really motivating.

Can we expect any changes in the near future to fix this issue?
I am unwilling to spend any money on the game until this issue is fixed since I only play wvw.
Thanks in advance

Nothing will change. Skill lag will always be there for stacked servers fight. This is mainly due to Anet refuse to dish out more money to upgrade WvW servers. Just suck it up or transfer to lower tier servers.

Anet is just kitten there are more players on WvW instead of sPvP. So they decided to kitten WvW up so we’ll move to sPvP. Not gonna happen Anet.

SykkoB.9465:

Buzzcrave.6197:

Joni.6830:

Jinks.2057:

T1 has no one but themselves to blame for the skill lag there

T1 has themselves to blame? Are you kittening kidding me? WvW favours big blobs.

It’s GAME DESIGN. If it weren’t more powerful people wouldn’t do it.

No! T1 servers have themselves to blame simply because they can go to t2/3 and fill those servers up for more fair tier match, but instead they bandwagon to t1 in order to get the full benefit of WvW(karma train/WxP) and the future rewards(League winners). However, they are a complete joke. Why? Everyone knows WvW rewards are complete kitten, you might as well just PvE to get a better “rewards”.

this is such a silly argument. SO blame t1 for anet failing to test there servers/engine properly? if the servers cant handle the QUE sizes they have now, then its anet fault, and they need to adjust the que to a cap size there dam engines/servers can handle.

the lag in this game is not just a t1 problem, it happens in all tiers. I also get that the players have the fault in stacking, but that again is not just a t1 problem, t2 is far more stacked then t3 and t3 from t4.

Yes it is Anet fault, and it is the players fault as well. Most players are well aware of how the skill lag occurs and yet they still transfer to the most populated servers, and then complain about skill lag. There should be a limit on stupidity.

If Anet make transferring to lower tiers servers for free, then hopefully we’ll have more servers with balance population resulting on a healthy match up. Knowing how Anet is a sucker for money(still trying to make sPvP as an eSport so they’ll get sponsorship), I know it’ll never happened. So it’s up to the players to man up and just transfer out from the stacked servers.

p/s: Fyi, from the mouth of an alpha tester, Anet only test their game/class balancing using sPvP. WvW was hardly being touch by them. This is just another fact on how WvW is just a mini game for Anet. We, the WvW players should never hope any fixes from Anet as they don’t give a kitten on WvW, so it is up to us to “fix” it.

You only need to watch out when the warrior is using his M/Sh or 3-4 seconds after he swap to that set. When he’s on GS, shoot at will. And if it’s a hammer you are complaining, then it is a L2P issue. Hammer stuns have an obvious animation, its kinda meh if you get caught by it easily.

junglizm.5843:

Ethan Mccloud.3218:

Nice fights in Fabl last night .. Had a blast Fighting CRIT , BURN, BEER, and several other guild tags . TC would be proud to have you guys an girls anytime on their side.

While the kudos are appreciated, I hardly think it is healthy trying to recruit from a server that you already out-cover. The game would be better served if people stopped trying to pile on to one server in an effort to be the next Bandwagon #1 T1 zerg beast.

Enjoy the fights while you are in a somewhat balanced match-up for once. It is nice to see TC being a bit more aggressive in the open field. Flipping your upgraded supply camps and killing your yaks while people watch me from the confines of your towers and keeps was getting redundant in earlier matches.

Heh you might not know this but half of TC people you see in WvW now are not present when we fight SoR. But then again you’re right, instead of making a 4th t1 servers, I rather people transfer to other t2 to make t2 match up more balanced. We need you guys to be 1.5 as well!

Joni.6830:

Jinks.2057:

T1 has no one but themselves to blame for the skill lag there

T1 has themselves to blame? Are you kittening kidding me? WvW favours big blobs.

It’s GAME DESIGN. If it weren’t more powerful people wouldn’t do it.

No! T1 servers have themselves to blame simply because they can go to t2/3 and fill those servers up for more fair tier match, but instead they bandwagon to t1 in order to get the full benefit of WvW(karma train/WxP) and the future rewards(League winners). However, they are a complete joke. Why? Everyone knows WvW rewards are complete kitten, you might as well just PvE to get a better “rewards”.

I would link a youtube video here and it’ll be enough for you to change from thank you to kitten you Anet, but if I link it I’ll probably get banned because the video creator did.

Forget it OP. Anet will never take WvW seriously. Main reason for their kittened addiction with sPvP is as you mentioned, to make it as an eSport(like League of Legends). Thus, making them to get sponsorship(every eSport will have it) resulting in money. What do they gain from WvW? Nothing.

I’ve lost faith with Anet and I would like to call on every WvWers(especially GvGers) to just accept this fact and stop wasting your money on this game. If Anet going to break their manifesto then why bother spending any more dime on them.

Cripple/daze/chill will reduce the distance. However, if you still wish it to be nerfed, then your wish will never come true. Why you ask? Because you can’t escape people in sPvP. Class balancing are based on sPvP, not WvW.

It need to be 5v5/8v8, that is what they are used to. While you’re at it, make it as conquest mode as well. Oh wait..

Most of you didn’t know this but Anet don’t give a kitten about WvW. All of the class balances are done based on sPvP because they want to make it an eSport so bad. Why you ask? Mainly because WvW will cost them money but making sPvP as an eSport will get them sponsorship=more money.

DevonCarver.5370:

Correct. The idea behind the buff is to incentivize you to show up even if you are outnumbered by pulling out some of the disincentive for losing a lot

And now with the orb buff, not only the player will lose a lot, they won’t be able to put up a match at all. Have fun being outmanned while fighting a 100 man server with +150 stats. Devon is just pure kitten, all his word doesn’t mean kitten. He’s just a puppet that is trying to calm us down by giving us more promises and lies.

tl;dr
Don’t bother asking for rework on WvW, nothing will changes as Anet don’t give a kitten. For trait/skill etc, make a thread on sPvP, but make sure give example related to sPvP, not WvW, because for Anet WvW is just a place where organized guild stay in towers and spam sieges with one hand while jerking off with the other hand. Yes, that’s right, they think organized guild in WvW a kittening joke! You hear me? A kittenING JOKE!

Skeletor.9360:

Yes I think they should be buffed more. Lets see we only get what?

1.) High default HP’s.
2.) High default toughness.
3.) Unable to be CC’ed.
4.) Unstoppable block that wastes opponents skills.
5.) Charges that connect no matter if the target is stealthed or not.
6.) Best mobility in the game. (Tied with thief and ele)
7.) Super high damage.
9.) Hey while we are damageing them lets add a charge a stun and a bunch of automatic hits.

Yes definately in need of a buff. Not OP at all.

Are we playing the same game here? The one you describe is definitely using GS/Sword+warhorn as their first set while having mace+shield/hammer on their second set with 30/30/30/30/30 on their trait. I can’t seem to find it possible to do that in GW2.

d/p thief and staff condition mesmer.

Chris.3290:

Tyaen.5148:

Probably because if TC tries to press SoR they get an immediate response, where as if they press SoS they are successful.

TC was getting pushed in the South by SoR and in response they pushed North into SoS…???

That whole fad of quoting Sun Tzu never hit SoS and we make no claims to being Masters of “Strategery”, but I don’t recall a time where we have ever responded to a push from an enemy server by attacking the 3rd server.

As much as I want both TC and SoS to hit on SoR, there’s no way TCers are able to control all the militia from doing what they want. Stop crying over something that we’re unable to control.

Silferas.3841:

Gutts.8791:

Also, Silferas complained how warriors have everything and can cope with conditions? Wait, what? We have Dogged March to help with CC, but conditions in general? What is it exactly we have that helps us cope with conditions? You mean lemongrass, which everyone else can use? Or the couple of condition removal utilities we have which pretty much everyone else gets. I’ve got a pretty solid build at the moment that I’m happy with, but I just accept the fact that I cannot go toe-toe with decent Necros. They melt me even with lemongrass. That claim is just ridiculous.

Next time read what you write, or at least do some research before, because right now it either seems like you know nothing about warrior, or are very, VERY stupid. Cleansing Ire (http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cleansing_Ire) is basically a 3 condition cleanse every 10s, and it’s just 5 more trait points investment after taking adrenal health, which most good warriors already take anyways. With proper trait setup you can cleanse 3 conditions every 7 seconds!!! No other class in game can continuously cleanse 3 conditions every 7 seconds AND have a skill that makes them IMMUNE to conditions.

Man, you went full kitten mode, never go full kitten mode…

EDIT: also.. Can’t go toe to toe with necros? Are we even playing the same game? Warriors hard counter necros lol. I don’t know what build you are running, but it’s either outdated or very stupid.

You have to realize cleansing ire need to be hit, and as many people suggested poison+blind is the best way to counter this popular Mace/GS. Just be reminded not everyone use Mace/GS(I know I don’t), and some of the nerf that you’re asking will make other build not being effective as it is.

I sense a perplex noob user that started this thread.

Orb was fun, having to chase the carrier while having a huge open field fight is always fun, problem is when it’s on the hand of mighty blob t1 servers when you’re just t3 and below, there’s no way to get a hand on it after all the fight. Beside more flying guy thread will appear if the orb is implemented again.

Unless Anet able to track down those hackers and make the orb reset every once in a while, then no to orb.

Door Machine [WM]
Divine Penetration [LUBE]

There should be more that made me laugh, I can’t seem to recall it. :\

I find it funny all the PvF from TC and SoR bashing each other and generalizing the people on the server with bad name when most of them are from NA prime time. We SEA/Oceanic are having fun with the match up, stop making us feel bad with each other when the one with issues is you NA prime timers.

Jax.1283:

Chris.3290:

Azure.8412:

SoS has really decent numbers in Oceanic and SEA. They just simply need a few guilds to unite their insane amount of militia like what MERC and co. did in the past.

A lot of experts on SoS all of the sudden.

MERC didn’t “rally” the militia. They got everyone who was hardcore WvW in Oceanic together…then left.

Everyone who WvW’d everyday (with the exception of a dedicated, great few) left. The precious few who stayed, had to rebuild all timezones from scratch.

We have a lot of potential, and we know it; but you don’t just yank out a rug that big and expect it to change overnight.

This has some sense. I’m also ex-SOS and I stayed on SOS from the tier 1 fall all the way to tier 4. It got to a point where the last couple of main guilds couldn’t do much. So to keep our communities alive we left. But anyways enough of the past. Thanks to TS and friends and Awe for the good fights tonight. Also Awe what was up with that 3rd floor SMC defense…. but all in all a fun night for GC and OCX. Also it was us you guys were fighting not NYS or SAHP they were on TC BL. And thanks to WvW from last Sunday the 25 of us had a lot of fun against you all. You guys are always fun to fight. Thanks all, good fights so far lets end this week on a good note.

We were trying to do what Mag do to us when they were outnumbered. Sadly you guys didn’t dive in, but some of your militia get melted in a few seconds and it is funny to watch at :P

We did fight with NYS and SAHP as well. Since TC have fewer numbers/coverage, we kinda hop map a lot to help with the situation. And yes lets end this match up on a good note and just throw all the PvF to the dustbin where they belong.

Much love to SONG/NYS/SAHP for the huge fight at TCBL and EBG. The grub that defended TCBL keep with us was one big lol. Looking forward for more fight like this.

p/s: Kinda wish you guys pushed us on SMC 3rd floor :p