Guild Wars 2

What model hard drive exactly? Your hard disk will have the biggest impact on loading times.

Jungle Quack.1368:

Please keep your useless off topic opinions to yourself.

I am asking for a workaround for a technical problem.

There is no technical problem here. Delta is spot on the money & I agree with him 100%. Doesn’t matter how much tweaking, driver/Windows installs you do. Nothing is going to make a slow laptop faster. By all means, feel free to waste your time trying (I’m sure you will), but it won’t get you anywhere. You’ll realize sooner or later, I’m tipping probably later because you think there is a magic fix for slow laptops.

Old processor. My old Q6600 does exactly the same thing. Which is why I only use it for testing nowdays, it’s just to old to run a brand new MMo engine.

deltaconnected.4058:

If you extrapolate benchmarks (vantage -> 06) from the 435m to the 8800gt to the 7800gs, the 435m is below the minimum.
The CPU cant really compare directly because of turboboost, but on single-threaded apps (superpi) it matches a stock q660, while on multi-threaded it will be ~35% weaker. But because at 2 cores loaded the speed will be 2.2GHz, that may as well be minimum.

4 cores will be used playing GW2, which means he’s stuck at 1.7ghz. Which is well under min.

Felix.2613:

According to this:

http://media.msi.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=35558
And http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Phenom_microprocessors#.22Agena.22_.28B2.2FB3.2C_65_nm.2C_Quad-core.29

You can buy this:

http://www.pricewatch.com/gallery/cpu/phenom_9600

You will also want a modern graphicscard. Which one depends on how big your powersupply is, sad to say. New computer would be best as it becomes expensive just to upgrade.

Very bad advice. That old Phenom 1 will be even worse than his 5200. You also tell him to put a modern graphics card with a 6yr old processor?? C’mon man…

DJRiful.3749:

That’s not a pretty good gaming laptop anymore in 2012. It’s too old the whole thing.

Pretty much this. Time for a real gaming desktop.

Your going to want a GTX660Ti. What power supply & processor are you rocking?

Your entire system is very low end & will need an update. That motherboard does not support the Phenom 2 processors so you may as well bite the bullet & get a nice Intel system.

Pretty sure a 3930k fall’s into the “Fancy Chips” category….

muslumgurseks.4951:

Cbuzz.5083:

muslumgurseks.4951:

Cbuzz.5083:

muslumgurseks.4951:

Aye that fluctuation is caused by those power saving things in BIOS. However disabling them does not help me gain any more fps… O/C’ing to 4/4.3 or higher will give you better performance if you can keep it cool but not much in WvW because the problem has nothing to do with the hardware…

It’s 100% hardware. Amd processors can’t cut the mustard with this game. End of story.

IN Before you call me a fanboi, because I’ve got already got 2 Amd rigs here.

Dude seriously have you ever seen somebody getting 60+fps in WvW Zergs using those fancy 3570K/3770K chips? I play other games without any problems with my Fx8120 platform…

Dude, yes. See sig.

So you are seriously comparing your 3930k to 8120/8150? yeh i see your point..

Did I compare? You asked if I’d seen anyone pulling 60fps in Zergs. I said yes I have.

muslumgurseks.4951:

Cbuzz.5083:

muslumgurseks.4951:

Aye that fluctuation is caused by those power saving things in BIOS. However disabling them does not help me gain any more fps… O/C’ing to 4/4.3 or higher will give you better performance if you can keep it cool but not much in WvW because the problem has nothing to do with the hardware…

It’s 100% hardware. Amd processors can’t cut the mustard with this game. End of story.

IN Before you call me a fanboi, because I’ve got already got 2 Amd rigs here.

Dude seriously have you ever seen somebody getting 60+fps in WvW Zergs using those fancy 3570K/3770K chips? I play other games without any problems with my Fx8120 platform…

Dude, yes. See sig.

muslumgurseks.4951:

Aye that fluctuation is caused by those power saving things in BIOS. However disabling them does not help me gain any more fps… O/C’ing to 4/4.3 or higher will give you better performance if you can keep it cool but not much in WvW because the problem has nothing to do with the hardware…

It’s 100% hardware. Amd processors can’t cut the mustard with this game. End of story.

IN Before you call me a fanboi, because I’ve got already got 2 Amd rigs here.

Crashing is usually a hardware fault.

Soulwatcher.2604:

@Cubzz it sure is Guild Wars 2 because the clocks are stable in any other game. The FX processor has turbo mode where it clocks the processor up and down. What ever programming Guild Wars 2 has is freaking out the CPU.

Also before I did anything to the PC the CPU was going over 65*C after I got the CPU the temp was 35*C. Now that I manually set the voltage the temp is staying around 25*c. That’s a 40*C difference and just for reference the CPU ran @ 49*c with the old tower and CPU fan. Guild Wars 2 is causing high heat in the FX processor!

I ran some more tests last night and running the game stock @3.1GHZ I am getting 45~89ps and it hit 109fps a few times but its mostly in the 80fps range. And the CPU is running 25*C, so I see no need to overclock!

No… it’s not. Faildozer’s are renown for downclocking whenever they feel like it. If the cpu is >65c then you’ve got a problem with your cooling.

GW2 got nothing to do with cpu clocks/voltages. All that is set in the motherboard bios before you even boot into Windows.

Masta Squidge.7438:

Cbuzz.5083:

Masta Squidge.7438:

Cbuzz.5083:

PC is VERY low end OP. Do you really expect to run a brand new MMO perfectly with 5yr old hardware? C’mon now…

I do so just fine. /shrug.

Yeah it chugs a bit when I get 50 people on screen and am trying to watch netflix at the same time, but with my OC at over 3 ghz, it generally does just fine.

A 3Ghz overclocked quad is far from a Stock 2.33Ghz quad like Op’s. Not sure why you are comparing here..

What I am comparing is that he has a much better processor than I do, and is probably running lower settings for graphics.

His CPU can run 3.0 ghz all day long, should he choose to do so.
His cpu is better than mine in literally every single way except for the clock speed.

That mabye true, but not many people can/know how to or even care to overclock. A lot of factors are involved with overclocking, not just run it at 3ghz done…

Enforcer.5782:

Max settings except for supersampling I think. Supersampling murders FPS on both of our cards.

I’m looking for a better CPU like Phenom II X6 1065T but my motherboard only supports 95W TDP, and the 95W versions of these CPU’s are near impossible to find.

If you read the AMD Cpu’s & GW2 thread you would not be wanting another Amd processor.

I suggest you read it before you purchase.

Masta Squidge.7438:

Cbuzz.5083:

PC is VERY low end OP. Do you really expect to run a brand new MMO perfectly with 5yr old hardware? C’mon now…

I do so just fine. /shrug.

Yeah it chugs a bit when I get 50 people on screen and am trying to watch netflix at the same time, but with my OC at over 3 ghz, it generally does just fine.

A 3Ghz overclocked quad is far from a Stock 2.33Ghz quad like Op’s. Not sure why you are comparing here..

PC is VERY low end OP. Do you really expect to run a brand new MMO perfectly with 5yr old hardware? C’mon now…

AMD Athlon II X4 645 @3.1GHz is your problem. See AMD & GW2 thread.

Also, your friend is not pulling 60fps on “MAX” settings. Not possible sorry.

Cito.6517: Strong exaggerating.

Esrever.8613:

40-80 fps in PvE
30-60 fps in WvW

phenom II x4 3.6ghz
radeon 6850.
everything maxed except shadows on low.

Echo.7258:

8120 FX @ 3.4 Ghz
Radeon 6850 1GB
8 GB RAM
Regardless of Settings, around 12-18 FPS No matter where I am.

Spot the exaggerator….

Zeusmeister.5130:

Running temps are fine, laptop doesn’t get too hot. I also have a dual-fan cooling mat. This laptop barely ever gets hot and it’s a powerhouse. I always have it set to high performance.

I wouldn’t really call the GTX555M a powerhouse. It’s the equivalent to a 9600GT desktop graphics card which is very low end.

Have you checked your running temps on CPu/Gpu? Overheating can cause your Cpu or Gpu to throttle reducing performance.

Have you checked your power settings?

Strong repeating skills.

Ferzend.6532:

its the game not our hardware, if someone with the best gpu claims he has low fps it just indicates that this game is unoptimized, i gave up yesterdat when i dropped from 40 to 15 fps in a cave, gpu usage was less than 50%. just downloaded world of tanks again and im enjoing my german tank destroyer
i recommend waiting till they fixed this mess, its just unplayable. very dissapointing. i did not expect this at all.

Could just as easily be a driver issue. Don’t be so quick to point the finger.

Varna.5162:

@Cbuzz
i5-2500k running at 4.7-4.9GHZ. I’ve tested extensively with my OC multiplier and it doesn’t really matter past 4.5GHZ.

Like I said in, WvW you are going to get 35FPS max no matter what you gpu configuration is. There is no getting around that CPU bottleneck. Even though your CPU is insanely powerful it’s not really going to matter in those situations weather you have SLI enabled or not.

Are you speaking just for your system or EVERY system? Very rarely does mine drop below 50 even in decent sized battles.
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Quality/size reduced for internet. Running 2560×1600 res & Sli usage is ALWAYS >80%.

Are we talking network/latency lag or FPS lag?

It’s a tough one with dual gpu single cards. Try this:

“Disable multi-GPU mode” option in the “Configure Multi-GPU, PhysX, Surround” section of the Nvidia Control Panel.

I think the second gpu on the single board is interfering & making thing worse at this stage.

Don’t waste your time waiting for new drivers, the current ones work fine & have done since GW2 was released. If you want better Sli performance you’ll either have to overclock that 920 (highly recommended) or upgrade.

I doubt you’ll get solid 60fps everywhere with those Gpu’s, but O’cing will definitely help in a massive way. Try it & find out, nothing to loose & FPS to gain!

zqa the monk.6094:

I’m mainly getting at if I had to buy a computer out of a store already done what would you guys recommend.

It’s already been suggested.

Esrever.8613:

Just ask for an i5 cpu and a 7850/660 level gpu and 8 gb of ram and you should be fine.

Can’t really go wrong with this.

alphacentari.7692:

That`s not entirely true I have a phenom 2 x4 965 and get anywhere from 30 to 80+fps in spvp and pve.The only areas that I have issues is large WvW and black citadel. But if you have the cash go for the Intel chip to eliminate any issues.

So have I & they are crap, lettuice be real here. Don’t sugar coat it, they are crap. WvW/Cities/Zergs are stupid lame compared to my Intel rig.

His entire pc is slow. With the worst part being the HD3450. Not a gaming graphics card, not even remotely a gaming graphics card. At this point without upgrading the rest of your pc, you can slap an 8800gt or similar in there will get the game playable. Make sure your power supply can support it.

Actually, the game runs pretty good on an 8800gt/C2D E8400 combo.

You guy’ swith GTX690’s, can you verify both GPU’s are being utilized ingame?

Download MSI Afterburner:
http://event.msi.com/vga/afterburner/download.htm

Monitor your GPU usage INGAME & report back. Pretty sure GW2 has issues with dual GPU cards. There is ZERO issues with SLi, just dual GPu on a single board.

I’ve seen plenty of posts with 590’s/295’s also having issues.

Swedemon.4670: You pay for what you get. The AMD cpu has dismal GW2 performance compared to Intel. If OP wants even a half enjoyable experience playing GW2 then Intel i5/7 is the only way

OP: Your system is very unbalanced, such a strong Gpu with a very weak cpu. This is a recipe for extremely low FPS in general. You definitely don’t need to go SLi as a single 660Ti eats Gw2, I know I’ve got one. You just need a strong processor that can keep up with it. Currently, no AMD processor can do that, your only option is i5/7 Intel.

If your on a budget, i’d go for something like the 2500k. Highly overclockable & cheap.

Flute.3784:

Cbuzz, are you running with supersample and ultra shadows too?

That are the ones I´m not maxed, and on a good day I can squeeze the FPS down to 40.

Supersample yes, not Ultra shadows. Turning bug kills fps with Ultra shadows enabled.

DJRiful.3749:

I’m angry, the FPS is too HIGH!

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https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/3838/1044960.jpg

You need to upgrade man.

Varna.5162:

You are going to experience the same lows no matter what. For example, in WvW if you are getting 20 FPS you are going to get the same FPS with one or two GPUs enabled. This is because at that point your CPU is a bottleneck. There are a lot of moments like this in the game so unfortunately you are not likely to see the benefit of SLI (especially if you are using a frame-rate limit).

A nice, stable CPU overclock can help a bit. Though you mileage will vary. I have an i5-200k @ 4.7GHZ and my frame-rate goes to hell in heavy players moments no matter what.

That’s just wrong. Sli is working very well (for me anyway). Disable SLi & my FPS plummet to almost HALF.

Your going to need a strong i5/i7 to feed the two. What is your processor?

Have you ran Furmark to test if it’s actually a faulty GPU? Artifacting like can only mean 2 things. Faulty gpu, or on occasions, drivers.

Nah, C2Quad @ 3Ghz would be “Recommended”. My Q6600 playes it pretty good @ 3Ghz. Anything lower it starts getting choppy.

Yep, medium. The 550ti is pretty low end bro.

Alan Wake does not have hundrouds of other players to render all shooting/doing stuff with thousands of calculations every second. In no way shape or form should Alan Wake be compared to GW2.

Definitely don’t need a $1k pc to play this game comfortably. A little knowledge goes a long way. Especially in the second hand PC market with parts being so cheap.

A solid second hand rig can be had for <$300. Hell, I can get an E4300 (1.8Ghz) cpu that cost me $5 pulling 35fps around lions arch @ 1080p, and that’s not on Best Performance!

The 5770 is low end nowdays. Even my HD5850 struggles with this game. Don’t be expecting to much from you gpu.

Err, what’s the problem here? I don’t see any issues at all.

Your GPU is fairly low end which is why it’s maxing out. Also, you expect to run this game @ Ultra on a low end gpu? Not going to happen buddy.

The problem is, not everyone has $1k to drop on hardware when all the other games they play work fine.

This game does run on minimum requirements, but it’s definitely not an enjoyable experience. Not even remotely enjoyable with minimum requirements. WvW/Zergs are out of the question totally unless you can game with 1fps.

http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showpost.php?p=13813869&postcount=3295

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?276114-8120-after-1-week&p=4993868&viewfull=1#post4993868

Start reading. You can see where I started having issues at post #3295 on ocau.

Change character animation to low. Also, disable “High Res Textures” as Swordbreaker has already suggested.

Update your motherboard bios to start with, I think there is also a MS hotfix as well. Turn of LLC/Eist/C1 & 2 states in bios (if applicable).
http://www.overclock.net/t/1228222/multiplier-changing-under-load-bulldozer

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?s=e7f23a16bc80d32f579adf4534fdd7a7&t=694437&page=2

http://downloads.guru3d.com/AMD-Bulldozer-hotfix-from-Microsoft-download-2831.html

Also check Catalyst Control Center, it also has it’s own overdrive for the processor.

heiN.4136:

Done:

http://i.imgur.com/sAEzA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/7MS3c.jpg

0 problems with the torture test.

As u can see the freq was jumping all the test from 1400mhz to 3900mhz is that normal?

Not normal, known bug/issue with bulldozer processors. They downclock underload. Let me try find a link to fix it.

I had the same prob when I had my BD rig.

Do the Blend to start.