Guild Wars 2

I see another potential problem here. If this turns out to be very bad, how can you trust any MMO company from now on? Tons of people including me moved to this game with promise it won’t be like wow and now it turns out it is?

I can see why many people won’t be playing MMO-s after this… not even sure about myself. I always thought if I can’t put my trust in Anet, can’t put trust in any other company.

P.S I never played wow but i did play GW1 and Aion after that..

So except bug fixes and 1 new dungeon nothing of importance was added in my opinion – the best thing about this patch is making harvesting tools account wide.

I won’t even talk about Ascended items, it clearly shows you are catering to the hardcore minority and flat out ignored most of your players. You really want to be remembered as “liars” judging by the most comments all over the place, and not just on this site? You broke your own design philosophy and by doing that you broke trust of many players.

I will give it a chance, but I wont participate in this grind. It’s just not my thing. It only saddens me unless I play a LOT I won’t be able to participate in the content (a.k.a this dungeon) because I will certainly be out-geared when I log in after some time.

MrLee.6892:

exphryl.3857:

So there is fancy new armor with “better” stats where I can’t use my Runes that I typically used over stats anyway?

I have to grind this armor in the dungeon where the armor is needed and will be there anyway?

I’m failing to see what all the fuss is about.

You and me both!

What it “seems” like it is, is the people who have played GW1 and are now playing GW2 really don’t like the idea of change. They want GW2 to be the exact same thing as GW1. But ArenaNet has listened to the community and is putting this change for the better of the game and the players.

I can’t wait till Friday! Lost Island is going to be a blast!!

Listened to who? Have been people screaming for the past 2 months “we want grind!”?

Personally what hurts the most is that people who actually support this wow-ification of GW2 probably have no idea what their initial anti-grind philosophy prior to launch was. This wouldn’t spark such debate, tons of hate posts here and hate comments on youtube and other sites if this is what we were expecting from the start.

If people knew that this game was going to introduce this right from the start, without any promise of eliminating grind and promising horizontal progression, then we wouldn’t be in this mess. They are for some reason going against their own promises and I see this as a concern myself. I put a lot of hopes in this game, personally. Never before a game of this genre came out with such promising set up. Manifesto trailer summed it pretty well, and hyped people for something NEW and fresh.

Now all you can see on the comments below the trailer are hate, hate and more hate. Is this really what we expected? No…

I must say I did put a lot of hopes in this game. I paid more then average player did for the CE, fully supporting them. I paid even more then the average CE customer because of all the taxes and shipping. I went with “wow, this game is promising. Anet cares about their players, and actually makes a game that will be like a holy grail for those who waited for a MMO without grind, player segregation and elitism community”.

Now it’s all shattered – they promised more of these gear treadmills in the future.

Why is this a problem? Because if they can introduce this in 1 dungeon, they can pretty much introduce it for more content, something more people will want to play. It wont be long before you log in, out-geared by hardcore players and get picked on because you “don’t have the best gear, go away noob”. Been there already. It’s frustrating and extremely anti-social.

I must say – if GW2 fails on this level, if it doesn’t deliver it’s promise then NO future MMO ever will. Especially because it was supposed to be the game that changes and innovates this genre.

Amulrei.4973:

replicant.3620:

So, what you are saying here is that you are not listening to anyone and you are going to blindly shove an obvious treadmill at us disguised as “content”?

There was never supposed to be gear progression from Exotic to Legendary. Legendary was a status symbol and nothing else. You are now abandoning your design principles and trying to out market us into thinking you are doing it for our betterment. It IS a treadmill when you add in the fact that our Lvl 80 plateau for gear now slopes upward because we have to do Exotic -> Ascended/Legendary to remain competitive. We didn’t need this in GW1 and we don’t need it in GW2. It’s that simple.

If you truly wanted people to not get Legendary items so quickly, then you should have made the vast majority of the items needed for it unable to be traded or bought. People have Legendary pieces now because they spent a lot of RL cash to buy gems and turn into gold, had guilds funding them, simply set their life on hold to push for that sparkle pony, or all of the above.

Well said. For supposedly “listening to us” I fail to recall an awful lot of posts asking AN to drive a burning truck through the very reasons we bought this game.

It’s not even about that, it wasn’t supposed to be this way from the start. 2 years ago they promised none of this, and now they’re going against it. If GW2 can’t fill it’s promise, what other future MMO can? It makes me feel like I really can’t trust MMO developers anymore, since I thought that Anet is the ONE company that will actually change the direction of this genre.

Crow.6504:

When i read these comments i dont know whether i should cry or laugh , honestly , most of you complain about people whining , about how Anet is catering to people that didnt play GW1 , yada, yada, yada, yada.
Who the hell cares about GW1 , this is GW2 .
The problem is that most of you who are defending GW1 , complaining about change etc, etc , must really be bored because you waste your time here on the forums , WHINING like babies , the game needs new content and the game needs changes , Anet has seen it and 80 % of the other players who are not posting here have seen it , so if youre not happy , go play GW1.
I really think that its the feeble minded that complain about something that has’nt even been exposed yet , so dont judge , wait and see , kitten how backward can this get!!

That would be all fine if this the type of content we’ve been promised to since beginning, but no, they always pushed the idea how they will rise above other MMO-s who have gear treadmills, and “eliminate” grind, THIS is the sole reason so many people bought this game. Of course we will feel betrayed!

I myself won’t speak too soon BUT, if GW2 fails to deliver what it has been promising us, i have little hope for any other future mmo

Here, watch it. It turns out this isn’t what they delivered, and I think comments sum it up too well.

I’m not so sure If I like this, it sounds like they’re trying to cater to hardcore wow players, in the end when you really think about it, you can’t enjoy this new dungeon without being geared properly which will spark a community of elitism that destroyed so many other games. I certainly can’t see myself grinding since I play once every 2-4 days.

I can only hope this isn’t what we can expect of future updates in terms of end-game content…

What happened to “we don’t want our players to grind” philosophy? Went down the drain already? I’m not happy really, this seemed like the ONE game that will eliminate player segregation and grind festivals

Haven.6531:

I don’t have a problem with the nature of the relationship. The dialogue was what annoyed me. He repeated “he’s my love, afterall” 3 or 4 times and I’m just like… I get it, calm down, I’ll save him for you.

Actually, he said it only once

If they are all genderless they why are NPC-s in Tyria referring them with male pronoun?

Shouldn’t they be called “it” like skritt call us?

Caithe/Faolain story actually touched me, unlike the others. Real tragic romance there

Hi,

I was thinking about something…I know this isn’t really important but whenever I read about elder dragons some sources say they are actually genderless. And others that they are all male. So what is actually official? Are all dragons male? I think it would be realistic to have at least 1 female elder dragon to fight, but hey it’s their lore:P

But most importantly, why are they so small?

I play chars of both genders, with more females because I can relate better but have only 1 human female. I choose always a dignified way of portraying my characters, so I never dress em up in silly clothes but go for practical. In the end it doesn’t matter to me as long as they look kitten

Yeah I had huge lag problems and I saw no cutscene so I just watched it on youtube

Game is NOT optimized well – Anet, you created such a beautiful game but these kinds of things put people off, please try to fix those optimization issues and handling such large events.

They probably live shorter because of battle, but there is one old charr in Black Citadel and he mentions how he’s older then 90

Hi, i’m posting this suggestion here because I realized today that harvesting vanilla beans is extremely difficult because the spawn rate is really really low, thus 1 of those things costs over 2 silver on TP. And needless to say they are essential for many recipes if you want to level cooking craft.

So my suggestion is, make them more accessible, please.

Maybe except the charr females are really not ugly, they look graceful – there are maybe 2 ugly options (i love those personally) but overall I think they are cat-like

I noticed that on my server (Desolation), 9 out of 10 Charr I see are male, players that is. It saddens me a bit that it seems that females are not so popular, and rare to be seen, just because peeps at Anet put so much work into their design and everything. Are they just no appealing to most people? I really think they’re cool and fair feline counterparts to their males.

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I didn’t understand what you were talking about until i went in Twilight Arbor dungeon…my good you’re rite it sounds like an annoying small dog non-stop barking when you inflict damage on those nightmare court females.

2 times completed, warrior Charr:)

Played for 1 hour, completed it – I don’t see the issue :/ Yes it can be frustrating but you just gotta concentrate and it will pay off, seriously it’s not THAT hard lol

The only one complaint i have is the camera. By the gods, please fix the camera so those kinds of events and puzzles won’t be a real nightmare. I kept dying and dying because the camera bounces in and of my character

I agree as well, it doesn’t feel like I’m a charr after level 20. I got pumped for being in blood legion and doing missions with Rytlock but now….like it doesn’t even matter in

Oh and when you join the vigil? Straight out warning: “it doesn’t matter who you are of what have you accomplished you are nothing here until you prove it” or something liket hat was said…excuse me? I think I chose clearly what I am – a charr serving the blood legion with honorable soldier as my sire. I agree, the story when you join the Order is not uninteresting, it IS fun but I lost all ties to my character.

Indeed it is, but it feels to me that in order to fully enjoy it I have to listen to the tracks separately in a player…which is what I do. Music tracks in GW2 are just not varied enough even tho there is a lot of it. Thus I added my own music to the mix, and thankfully removed those boring GW1 songs nobody wants to listen over and over.

I personally hated the map design in Factions, but not the actual design. Lore is good, but execution was poor. Regardless, there is potential there, and I personally can’t wait to make an Asian looking character as a thief. I surely hope they won’t be restricting us to Kryta only I hope…

Oh.
My.
Squee!

Great idea!

Okey, opened 15 Mad King Chests here is what I got:

- 10 Nougat Centers
- 1 Onyx fragment, 1 Glacial shard
- 37 Plastic Teeth
- 4 Chattering Skulls
- 247 Candy Corn
- 3 Candy Corn Tonics
- 6 Skeleton Tonics
- Deathly Bull’s Mantle Skin
- Deathly Avian Shoulderpads Skin

So I got 3 skins so far, I’m quite satisfied

What music? I never heard it Music often doesn’t load correctly especially in overflow server which occurs in LA…can you post it on youtube?

This is awesome. Seriously what other MMO dev would listen to their players and fix things this fast? You earned my respect, seriously. Cheers!

I figured things right away. It was all stated, most of the things would be in LA. New items available from the gem store. You have it all on map, I don’t get it what’s so difficult to understand? Running around in one zone is enough to see that there are things added to the world. It’s better then most MMO-s.

Honestly if you judge the whole game by 1 event then there is something wrong with you. Try reading about the event in their announcments and emails before you complain that there is chaos everyhwhere…

Agreed. I also can’t see players for the first few minutes.

In GW1 costume brawl were instanced, on pvp maps – with 2 groups of players randomly mashed together and killing players with costume skills for points. I would actually prefer it this way, but with some kind of twist.

Oreoz.2573:

Wanna know something ironic?

I lost 30 bucks. You can see me throughout the first 10 pages of this thread putting in my two cents about it.

So I farmed candy corn. For hours.

Guess what.

I’m now the proud owner of the ghastly grinning shield.

:)

Yes but do you know it will expire? Wouldn’t you be happier if they provided permanent skins for twice as much candy corn, like they did with candy cane shards in GW1?

Well I posted it here because I guess most people and Anet read this section of the forum now and it’s Halloween themed. And why not?

They don’t loose anything it’s how they’ve dealt with costumes in GW1.
Buy it with money = have on all characters. It’s already account bound so why not make it easier?

I have a suggestion for future events regarding costumes. I would like if you handled them in GW1 – buy it on 1 character, and every character on your account can get them unlimited number of times from NPC. I know they’re currently account bound but I can’t have them on all my characters and that sucks a bit. Care to think about it?:)

I don’t plan on buying the keys – I opened them with keys I stashed before. So for me it was 10 chests + 5 additional from keys dropped inside those chests. I got some shoulder pads, and lots of other things I like like magic find boost, repair kits, transmutation stones and 1 revive orb.

I bought the witch costume for 10 dollars and that was money well spent because I got something I paid for and it looks awesome on a charr

I feel sorry for those who wasted money expecting those skins but it’s not like you could not have predicted that you probably won’t get anything. Is it unfair? Yes and no. By buying those gems, with gold or real money you agreed on what they have stated – a chance to get those items. I’m not trying to defend them on this matter because RNG is not cool, but you could at least enjoy items you got from those chests.

But I think Anet has to learn from this event and not apply this kind of thing on future updates. I would very much prefer it those skins were obtainable by candy corn. 250 for skins that expire, and maybe 500+ candy corn for perma skins. Or put them simply in the gem store for those who do not wish to grind or rely on luck. I’m only saying this because if you apply this method on the Christmas event, people will be disappointing again. I know you have to make money and you give your best to push good quality content, but there are ways to do it without making players feel like they’re cheated.

You will loose trust from people who spent a lot of money for not getting what they wanted. Spending gems on items is ok if there is something equally redeemable in game as well. 1 free horn hat won’t really do it I’m afraid. You could have added a chain event that awards you a free cat mini pet or something equally cute or cool.

Events should be fun, not grind and/or gamble.

I opened 15 chests and got some avian shoulder pads, so that is good enough. Also got bunch of other useful things like revive orb, transmutation stones and magic find booster:)

I spent no money on keys I used the ones I already had. I’ll probably buy the costume with gold tho.

Yeah just logged in and no horns :P Don’t tell me they removed it already

Could you please please use GMT time ? It’s only few hours difference to calculate that way. People are kinda mad not because the update isn’t out yet but because of the lack of information. It probs wont go live for EU till 5 AM at this rate, and we would be totally cool with it if we knew from the start the exact launch time. Sucks staying up late just to find out you know? Especially when you announced this update more then 1 week ago. Nighty night

So basically when you say “its going live 22nd” you need to advertise it to us EU players as “October 23” because basically that’s it – updates like this won’t roll for us when people are playing and its already 3 AM here so might as well go to sleep now lol.

Or you could just use GMT times so people would better understand.

9 gold at level 55…I had 15 gold before but I spent in on char slots xD

Ebrech.3148:

There is nothing sexy for male. :( unless you love that blaring chest hair *cough -Oh god why.

Indeed, ugh. There are maybe 3-4 sexy male armors in game compared to dozens of female armors. I don’t call that a fair balance. And most of the outfits are norn-only and they’re nothing nice to look at either.

We need more male stuff!

Let’s not turn this game into second Tera online shall we? The only thing that needs addressing is more sexy male armor, especially cloth ones since there are none.

SpyderArachnid.5619:

CharrGirl.7896:

How? Tell me your secrets ,how to make it work?

Simply extract it somewhere then paste the files into your GW2 folder. (In program files not documents).

Yeah I did that and GW2 just won’t start now. Opens log-in screen then just stops and when I removed the files it worked. Any ideas?

How? Tell me your secrets ,how to make it work?

So I just finished a level 10 quest which involves killing Bercilak. I couldn’t help but wonder after talking to the pale tree- is that it? A story choice in creation that only lasts first 10 levels? I really hoped it would be one of the ultimate goals in the game along with killing the elder dragon. Or is there more later on perhaps?

I agree to a certain extent. Things are different…from which they have told us, or we simply misunderstood what Anet has been trying to tell us about story.

I chose a Charr, and as such I got the feeling from the very beginning that I will be tied to my warband and legion – turns out not so. I chose Blood legion because I think they’re freaking coolest of them all, especially how effective it sounded in first intro when you create a character.

It was good for the first 30 levels, it felt like my story. Doing various missions with my growing warband and Rytlock were probably best ones (although I still wish to kill that kitten Steelbane at some point since I left him live on the first try).

The moment I joined the Vigil things changed – it’s not like the change of NPC’s that accompany you was bad or anything but i did start to miss my warband for some reason. And Rytlock nowhere to be seen, occasionally I just get a letter of congratulations on my successful mission. Good thing to know that he’s spying on me while I’m on Vigil duty.

Anyways, I’m level 53 now and still no word from Blood legion or warband. I hope I’ll get to see them at least in final battle, because it seemed to me in CC that it was the most important thing about your character. Legion that acts like your both parents and a sparring partner that will accompany you everywhere. Now poor Reeva rots somewhere in Black Citadel. Nobody ever told us we are going to be stuck with one of the 3 main orders of Tyria and do their bidding.

And what about Destiny’s Edge? Not a single thing about them, and they seemed like a pretty big deal before the game was released. Maybe they’ll re-join in later game expansions?

Concerning Trahearne I don’t find him uninteresting I just find his voice boring compared to Forgal, who was much more kitten. I understand he is a different person but that doesn’t mean he has to sound like Microsoft Sam.

Overall I’m not dissapointed – I just thought that choices I made in character creation regarding my legion, warband and heritage would have more meaning. The game does however have a huge replay value since there are many choices to make.

Warrior all the way guardians are rare in Charr society :P

I felt the same way after my first dungeon run. However I gave it another chance with a group of people who actually knew what they were doing, and we did story mode + all 3 explorable modes in 1 shot, never died once, and it was brilliant.

So be sure to play with people you know

Draygo, no that is just depth blur option I think. Have that turned off. No I was just referring to draw distance or how it’s called, its really really low in this game. In some other games it’s made so that the distant or bit further objects are not fully rendered but they don’t loose so much details. I have seen many landscapes in rl, and let me tell you that only the distant mountains are this faded out. This wall is maybe less then few hundred meters away:

Thanks guys:)
Yeah I see now, I do think it’s a bit narrow. But my biggest bother is the draw distance – simply too low even on ultra settings. I was standing on top of ebonhawk fortress and the wall on the other side was fading and blurred out. Can it be more like tera? You could see the entire landscape.