Guild Wars 2

there’s been a rumor going around for the past week that Agg was farming for transfer money for the past week or so. I guess we lost CR/FSU so our counter to them is gone, so they obviously had to leave as well. Now we can get back to SS vs BS..

Don’t forget what day it is! Duels tonight in GoM border same time as last week at te windmill. I already forgot what time it was last time so somebody fill us in
I hope to see a lot of people there since my Internet should finally be working and I can duel anyone who asks!

Gate of Madness Is Terrible [GoM]
Shouldve Rolled Kaineng [NoQQ]

Nordic Natedog.4360:

Advent.6193:

Iskandor.9415:

I wonder if FC will ever get the mass influx that has screwed us over at least three times now. It happened for Kaineng, it happened for Devona’s Rest, it happened for Sorrow’s Furnace (and yet we were stuck with them for frigging forever…)

Nope, Isquen. And here’s why. Note the placement/colouring of all three servers you just mentioned. Yea, they’re Green. THAT’S why they got more in the way of transfers, particularily DR/Kain. Folk went to those servers specifically because they were winning the Tier.
(Which is just funny. You want to make a true difference, why not go Blue, or even Red? Obviously, those are the guys in a Tier that are really hurting.)

The worst part? We’re still sexy bastids.

Not always the case. When they have opened up transfers, it was to go to lower populated ones. Some, like GoM, will never be opened to free transfers. Also, when they last did it, GoM had just won the week at T7 and HoD got a huge influx of WvW players. Next week we get stomped by HoD’s new zergs and the following week we ended up in T8.

I am largely an AM player and I can tell you that I see some GoM’s on but often I am defending our BL by myself or with a force of 4-8.

Lol FC has that many players roaming on our BL during PM times, unless
a keep is under attack.

We finally successfully ninja’d a keep! (Bay after GoM capped it) … then proceeded to lose it again when we defended against ET at hills.

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/guardian/?3.0|b.1g.h6.e.1g.h1|1.1g.h1|1g.71j.1g.71j.1g.71j.1g.71j.1g.71j.1g.71j|211.d19.211.d13.311.d19.211.d13.311.d19.2s.d13|0.5.u69b.u28b.5|4x.7|v.18.16.19.1i|e
wish I saw this site earlier

Build: 0/5/30/30/5
scepter/shield ; Greatsword
Berzerker equips (armor/weapon) with celestial style trinkets

Trinket stats:
All stats +43*2 (Rings)
All +60 (runes)
All +38*2 (Accessories)
All +25 (Amulet)
This is +247 to all stats
Equip stats:
Combined Power: 495 +56 = 551
Combined Precision: 352 +35 = 387
Combined Crit Damage: 25 +5 = 30
(Added values are from back piece)
Armor values add up to 1211
Additional 61 armor (from shield)

Trait attributes:
50 Precision
50 Condi Damage
300 Toughness
30% Crit damage
300 Healing Power
300 Vitality

Traits
90 toughness w/ shield

Toughness is
916 (base) + (90) +300+86+60+76+25
1492
Without shield equipped: 1402

Armor
1492 + 1211 + 61 (shield) =
2764 Effective armor with shield

Vitality
547+916
1463

Healing Power
300+86+60+76+25+250(sigil of life stacks)
797 without food
With food:
6% of vit 88
4% of tough  60
797 + 148
949 (lol)

Precision:
50+387+247+916
1600 without food
With food:
6% toughness: 90
4% vitality: 58
148+1600
1748
Using given equation..
Critical Chance = round down((precision – 822) / 21)
chance = floor((1748-822)/21)
chance = 44%
Sigil of accuracy +5%
49% chance

Power:
I kinda lied about this one.
551+916+247
1714
However, it is likely that with the trait that gives mights on crits every second for 5 seconds he will have permanent 4 stacks of might, and even more so if using the GS auto attack. We’ll say perma 5 stacks of might.
+ 35 * 5 =175
1714 +175
1889

Crit Damage%
30% + 30% + 12%(runes) + 10% (accesories) +12% (rings) + 7% (amulet)
101% crit damage.. I’m sure I’m missing something somewhere though since this is off the top of my head with a little bit of gw2 wiki help. Still very impressive crit damage.

And still np with running 3 shouts with Pure of Voice trait!
I’d say the only thing I really messed up on was power which I kinda knew when I first wrote it since I wasn’t so sure.

since SS hides inside towers and keeps all te time I can confidently say hitting the lord DOES set off swords. However they may have killed the lord right before swords went down.

If we can keep this up we might be blue again !

It probably works normal targeting regardless of conditions; party> closest > anyone else in range

Saoulfou.7235:

Man we kicked GoM and ET’s bu-tt. Luckily for us, fsu and cr were not leading or we would have failed like always.

ya cr sux because they can’t build 5 golems like glorious Lukian and outman everyone!!

You seriously just underestimate the build. He actually runs 3 shouts (maybe replacing one with another consetration) with pure of voice, so he’s not so poor at removing conditions. I run a very similar build to the one you mentioned and its not even close to what he runs.
Fact is he barely has less survivability than me.. yet has about double my damage.

you forgot the part about butterfly cookies

In wvw this build is actually insanely good. If anyone is in the T8 matchup I know of someone who runs this and dominates most people simply because of his stats (his skill isn’t even that good)
He basically runs berserker armor with divinity runes and celestial-ascended trinkets. His crit chance is 50%, crit dmg almost 110%, armor rating at somewhere around 2600 and power at like 2.xk (don’t remember). He has 900 healing power with full sigil of life stacks.
Basically he’s as tanky as the rest of us but can instantly down people with 1 whirling wrath. Honestly if I had the patience I’d farm fractals for the gear so I would literally become the immortal-destroyer Guardian (lolol) and easy mode through everything but that’s just too much work!

All they really need to do is increase the volitility to the servers that are locked into matches. It’s honestly not that difficult.

Arganthium.5638:

timidobserver.7925:

Arganthium.5638:

timidobserver.7925:

Pooka.3420:

Culling Fixed = Less Thieves. Respect to the ones who still make it work.

This won’t really get any sympathy. I could live with no thieves at all until the profession is balanced. Instakilling and perma stealth is something I could live without entirely.

If only thieves had either of those (or didn’t suffer insane disadvantages for taking one or the other).

Yes, there should be insane disadvantages for being able to insta kill people or in combat stealth over and over with little to no real cooldown. The profession is completely broken right now, so yeh I am fine with no one playing them.

1. We can’t “instakill” anybody. As a thief that primarily plays “bunker” or “balanced” thieves, I’ve run up against glass cannon noobs plenty of times before. Simply stun break, stealth, heal, and mince them up if you’re like me, because GC thieves have such little defense. Of course, not everybody can stealth, but they also tend to have more healing and defense than thieves do anyways, so as long as they can stunbreak and roll away quickly from an initial attack by a GC/“instakill” thief, then you’re golden. You should have no issues slicing the thief to pieces.

2. Revealed. We can’t attack from stealth without getting it, and it lasts long enough to get in a lot of attacks on a thief; often times, more than half of their health or more can be depleted while a thief is revealed. We don’t have a lot of ways to access stealth; our only utilities for getting it are HiS, BP, and SR. All have long cooldowns on them, or long enough that they can’t really be abused. BP, also, really only comes with a blind and a stealth, and that’s it, so even that isn’t that great. As for attacks, it’s very difficult to maintain stealth simply via our attacks and combos. CnD is easily avoidable, has only a very short stealth, does little damage, and very little else outside of that. It also uses up 50% of our base initiative (40% if you have Trickery 15). The combo with D/P is also very costly, and somewhat inefficient.

The point is that the first of these two “problems” comes with virtually no defense, and the second with virtually no offense.

I play a near bunker guard
That said:
HS>c&d>bs>flame blast > stomp

literally instantly dead if I didn’t have aegis up, has happened multiple times now

geekanerd.4123:

styx.7294:

Darek.1836:

Tbh I don’t think I’ve learned anything new from GoM yet

Weird, I’m learnin all about how to post hurtful things on the forums from you =(

Moobs just hasn’t had his coffee yet.

So true..

Tbh I don’t think I’ve learned anything new from GoM yet

I love killing Ajax. It always ends up like “You got lucky that time”. And when he has a few friends and he kills me or us he whispers me like “Yeah take that you kitten Nazzis(My guild is named Reich), you’re the worst pvpers I’ve ever seen”
Ajax is awesome.

I think people have given up posting because this fell to the 2nd page

GoM had more people in our BL than we had online in every map plus about a 40man zerg running around in EB. No outnumbers here.

Mentioned this to people who say EU t9 is like NA t8; it’s not. T9 in EU has so far lost just as bad to every server who dropped down, this is obviously not the case on T8 as SF will be in T6 within another week or 2.

No offense to GoM but when equal number and usually doouble teams are going on against them (aka during weekend) they probably won’t do well

Colt.9051:

Prolly had one of the more awesome reset nights I’ve ever had in the GoM borderlands! Had overall great fights, especially the FC group that would just unrelentingly batter down our hills keep even after wiping like 5+ times. Never saw persistence to that level xD Too bad I didn’t really get any screenies of any fights but it’ll live on in memory. Loving this new matchup so far!

We were crying about this since we were keeping 10-15 people outside hills and stopping almost all supplies from getting inside yet that commander couldn’t take it with twice your guys numbers.. obviously good defense but from our pov we were thinking “could we be any worse”

Convenant.7092:

Themanbat.3206:

Convenant.7092:

Themanbat.3206:

Tek.4083:

Themanbat.3206:

Tek.4083:

Themanbat.3206:

Convenant.7092:

As a member of a reputable roaming group that frequently runs 5 mans (and if any T7 lowbie-killing 5-man want to come have a go, you’re on..), I can tell you that AoN has never told anybody to stop following them if they were just doing their objectives. Yes, our style of play focuses on fighting larger numbers and searching for constant fighting, but we’d never discourage our server to play objectives. In fact, we help them a lot. I believe that’s the proper mentality to have in regards to your server.

If you chose to play a roaming-group in GW2, you chose to take a different path than most. Therefore, you have to adapt to the majority and the game design… AoN spends 80% of their time deep in enemy territory, with no allies in sight. If you’re on a contested on friendly area, don’t complain about your pubbies being around you. Move yourself to a different place.

Of course, we’ve had our cases where litterally 5 or 6 people would hang around with us, following us like glue… those are the cases where you just want to kill them yourselves… people who decide they’d ride along your train while they should be doing other stuff.. but oh well. Run them into an enemy zerg and they run or die instantly.

Of course, if they ARE, indeed, in T7, where zergs and people in general are less geared, skilled and hardcore than the higher tiers, and where there a less full guild zergs, they “would” think highly of themselves for wiping people with crappy gear and no voice com. If you want a real challenge, come to T2. You’ll have plenty to fight, and it’ll open your eyes, and there won’t be pubbies because pubbies will stick with the commander!

Yes, t2 is much more skilled for standing in 60 person zerg balls all day whose only means of transportation across the map is by portaling. “T7 lowbie-killing 5-man?” Have you even been to the lower tiers? Seriously, dude, get over yourself. The only difference between tiers is the population. That, and in the lower tiers you have to do more than spam aoe to win. I know, using skills is hard…

Ive seen AoN Play. And like my Guild we are really competitive. Ive been in low tiers and also tier 2. there is a reason we are in a higher tier. Ive dueled this guy personally. Hes a friggin monster, and his guild works well with this. Ive seen noone do the same.

Well I haven’t seen him except an unimpressive video against bad Maguuma pugs
(5v6 followed by 5v8 does not make a 5v15), so he should probably keep his ego in the tier it belongs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOkNiQIUIp8

Yes, I’m sure that aoe spam holds up well against guild groups of good players.

Me stating a reality about guild/playerbase distribution among the tiers lead me to being egotastic and other such nonsense? If you do wish to fight us, at least have the decency to do it ingame rather than on the forums. Thank you.

Lol, don’t start trakittenalking other people you know as little about as you claim we do of you and then get kitten when someone responds negatively.
Edit: It wasn’t the “playerbase distribution of the tiers” that I give a rat’s kitten about. You specifically targeted t7 roaming groups as nothing more than lowbie gankers. Wtf did you expect my reaction to be? And for trying to turn this into a recruitment opportunity you sure as hell started off on the wrong foot.

I don’t care about your opinion.. I state facts. I merely wanted you to fight me so we can crush you really quick.

lol maybe you should try to duel andro too

andro won 3 out of 3, no surprises.

20g andro wins. anyone taking me up?

I did notice you, I told homie to tell you that I was lagging too hard to duel :\ sorry,

Would it hurt if we got everyone’s names that deserve credit?

Oh Devon you already got your own thread remember? I guess i did promise you cookies though so I’m going to need to get on that.. What class do you main?

thieves: die in 2-3 hits unless specced for toughness in which they won’t be doing any damage anyway, and are thus deemed worthless. also what’s your aoe? none. what’s your actual support? none. stability? nope. thieves can be murdered after they use their teleports and get pulled from stealth insanely easily. Honestly not sure how it’s even possible to think thieves are better than eles. Eles can tank and do damage and apply condis and do mass CC while still being able to run away and give tons of support to allies.

for your points
why does it matter if the ele is noticeable? it means he will be attacked and likely won’t die still
1v1s are useless in WvW
please tell me how youre going to Rez allies in stealth while we just put down 2 aoes on you then move along since we know you’re dead

yeah we did some 3v3s iirc. some of you might have noticed me teleporting across the area all night, I had lag reaching up to 1200ms pings for the entire day. I never got to duel ;(

Despite what you guys say thieves are not nearly as versatile as eles.

In their defense it gets really annoying when some bad pvper tagging along
gets stomped and rallies several people

Op the answer is undoubtedly yes.

from what we saw RISE looked like one of if not the best small groups in
this tier that I’ve seen.

duels start as soon as I login… soon

It’s too bad Agg got bored of siege last night or someone would have taken it

All shouts except hold the line remove a condition with soldiers runes first, then convert conditions (correctly). Hold the like however converts 2 condis to boon in addition to
removing a condi with soldiers.

save yourself removes conditions like mentioned above then draws all condis on allies to you.

Faux Sheaux.6179:

Definitely the BM ranger

don’t know man I use to play one but it wasnt nearly as spectacular as mesmers or HGH engis

Maladon.5760:

The stealth nerf did nothing of any consequence, the culling fix was beside the point and in no way related to 1v1 or even small scale fights so the impact on thieves was minimal. I think the reason you see fewer thieves is because they’re either buried in the zerg or they rerolled because there is less opportunity to get the small fights/1v1s now that everyone is surfing the zergs for wxp.

Thieves actually got a major nerf from the culling fix. It’s really evident from pistol thieves who could use an entire unload and restealth before they even rendered. Before, thieves could perma stealth and kill people simultaneously by abusing culling.. also the haste need changed a lot.

y’all posting in a troll thread

Here’s what you’re missing.
If there was a way to counter spies on your own server I think I’d be fine with it, but ATM they cant die because you can’t attack them, and they can’t be forced to leave. It’s not hard to understand at all and I’m wondering if you even have an argument anymore.

Not so sure about BM ranger.. but yup for Mesmer and engi haha

Spying in TS and forums cannot be banned and I won’t dispute that. Administrators are in control of those and should take precautions on their own merit, as that’s outside of Anets influence.
I believe the reason ANet doesn’t ban spies is because the people I charge of giving bans were never told exactly what they should do about it. Hopefully Devon will resolve it with them.

Yet the team with 1 leecher can still win, but he is still banned regardless. You can argue all you want that spies don’t do “enough” to consider it manipulation. Perhaps I need to hack for a minimum of 20 hours to consider it “enough”? Its cheating and it’s altering the rankings regardless of how much the person does it, and the rules of conduct clearly state that. I’m also surprised ANYONE would defend this tactic when confronted with evidence it’s against the rules.

You should understand this is not Spvp, rankings are NOT decided by win or lose, they’re decided on how well you do. This means that any change AT ALL in the score is ranking manipulation.

lordkrall.7241:

Darek.1836:

“While participating in Plaver-vs-Player (PvP) gameplay, you will not participate in any form of match manipulation. Match manipulation is defined as any action taken to fix or manipulate the outcome of a match or alter or manipulate the rankings or ratings of the ladder. This also includes disrupting other people’s game experience by not actively participating in matches in good faith, a.k.a leeching.”
-rules of conduct
if spying isn’t match manipulation I don’t know what is

That is however referring specifically to PvP, not WvW. And even if it were, it is in not way “match manipulation” since they do not actively make sure one server win.

Are you saying matches aren’t altered? Then the tactic wouldn’t be an issue.
I also missed where it said “Structured Pvp”, from what I can see it says “PvP”. WvW is PvP, no?
Dont distort the rules to serve your views, they’re clear as day.

Doesn’t matter since the match is likely decided by tonight anyway. I really think we’re gonna have a nice showing tonight, there may be too many for everyone to duel! lol

lordkrall.7241:

urzen.7096:

This isn’t war, this is a game. Games have rules. Breaking the rules requires punishment.

So.. where are the rules that forbids spying?

“While participating in Plaver-vs-Player (PvP) gameplay, you will not participate in any form of match manipulation. Match manipulation is defined as any action taken to fix or manipulate the outcome of a match or alter or manipulate the rankings or ratings of the ladder. This also includes disrupting other people’s game experience by not actively participating in matches in good faith, a.k.a leeching.”
-rules of conduct
if spying isn’t match manipulation I don’t know what is

Can’t wait for duels tonight
I better see all te guilds I hate fighting! Im looking at you BS!

Zumi.6384:

So. Much. Popcorn.

I do have to say though, I’m really enjoying the matchup, despite the lopsided score this week. I think overall it’s pretty even, and there’s always good fights to be had!

Keep up the good fight everyone because I for one am having a blast.

lopsided??? where is this lopsided match that you speak of? GoM is like 20k points ahead that’s nothing! you must be new to T8 blow outs.