Guild Wars 2

Parisalchuk.9230:

Defektive.7283:

XD thanks for the confidence guys. We’re working hard to get everything lined up correctly.

We played last night for the first time in a week and it was roouuughhh. But who cares we do this for fun :P

Have you guys played your Mist League matches for the week? I would like you to beat a certain team you play this week

We have one tonight and one tomorrow (friday).

saVdoom.2067:

Defektive.7283:

saVdoom.2067:

Thedenofsin.7340:

Give it some time. Once people start building counter comps to the meta, perhaps mesmers will be in the counter-counter comps.

Lol. Before this last patch with loads of adjustments, warriors and necromansers were also not part of the meta… and it was “given some time”… and they were still not viable in the meta… until a significant patch hit it, changing some specs and abilities.

Regarding the spirit ranger, if you check patch notes they were significantly buffed but the BM spec was still better, until they got nerfed. Then it was a normal change to the spirit spec.

Warriors are still not apart of the meta btw.

Exactly, but still rather more “viable” then mesmers in a team comp due their perma stun/daze spec being more useful to teams. Plus berserk stance.

And people will still say “give it time for warriors…” ?

I guess you could say that, but most people will just say ‘bring an engi or necromancer’ instead of a CC Warrior.

Trust me, even my team has a hard time validating my existing. I’ve changed my build and play style a number of times to meet their expectations.

saVdoom.2067:

Thedenofsin.7340:

Give it some time. Once people start building counter comps to the meta, perhaps mesmers will be in the counter-counter comps.

Lol. Before this last patch with loads of adjustments, warriors and necromansers were also not part of the meta… and it was “given some time”… and they were still not viable in the meta… until a significant patch hit it, changing some specs and abilities.

Regarding the spirit ranger, if you check patch notes they were significantly buffed but the BM spec was still better, until they got nerfed. Then it was a normal change to the spirit spec.

Warriors are still not apart of the meta btw.

kito.1827:

seems like none of you read the OP

he is asking for a team-leaderboard.

to answer on topic: i think it wont happen for now, maybe in the future. but the problem would be that they had to implement a new queue for 5-player-teams only which means another splitted queue.

would be like this:
- ranked soloQ (no 2/3/4/5 setups allowed)
- ranked 5p-teamQ (no 1/2/3/4 setups allowed)
- unranked whatever (1/2/3/4/5 players) teamQ

now regarding what the dev’s mentioned before, i think they are aware of ‘under-population’ of the leaderboards and therefore i guess only big pvp population will bring us another split/different queue

Team leaderboard is needed in order to reduce team swapping – which is rampant in NA.

Leaderboards should just be reset with the new patch.

If players are so good to be in the top 100, they can do it again in a weekend.

Julius.1094:

Defektive.7283:

Let’s be fair, the meta has been around barely two weeks ish?

I have a sneaking suspicion people did this when having a conversation with their team:

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Convo-——-
Mesmer: Guys let’s try a few different strategies since Burst is difficult for me right now. What if I played a far point bunker with Portal so I could easily get in an out of a fight as well as support team transitions? I could basically be unkillable, and if they did reserve 2+ people I could portal out.

Instant Gratification Guy 1: OR, or, HEAR ME OUT11!11!. Roll Necromancer. That way we can have two necromancers doing the exact same thing and bringing no new utility to the team fight.

Instant Gratification Guy 2: GENIUS!

Mesmer: But fellas we’ve only tried a couple new strats with a Mesmer, why are we abandoning it so quickly?

Instant Gratification Guy 3: Because we’re lazy and Necromancers are strong.

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IMO: The meta is being dictated by people who don’t want to try, but rather would be a lemming and take easy street.

The nerf making distortion not count towards point capping/holding made mesmer bunkers pretty inviable, they’re very reliant on it to survive and two full distortions will get the point neutralized under you. Also mesmer while still good simply does not have proper condi removal, too few options in builds that aren’t strong enough.

Good point. Maybe that is a primary reason that bunker Mesmers havn’t been seen much of.

Stealth mechanics are to difficult to balance since so many classes have it now.

saVdoom.2067:

Defektive.7283:

Having everyone be self sufficient is most likely detrimental to the game as a whole.

Tell that to necros, spirit rangers, engineers, S/D thiefs and guardians.

Which is what everyone is complaining about and is exactly why they should be toned down to be less self sufficient.

jportell.2197:

Viable means that it can fit into a team comp and not need babysat to survive. This used to be the case with necros and warriors now it is the case with mesmers.

Pretty sure the game was intended so that one class was needed to be babysat by another. In a circle, for all 5 classes.

AKA teamwork.

Having everyone be self sufficient is most likely detrimental to the game as a whole.

But that’s optimally.

Optimally doesn’t happen in PvP. You’re not using mending on CD, and the conditions can be negated by Cleansing Ire and Berzerkers Stance and Sig of Stamina.

You’re overlapping a use with other skills that function better, when you could be getting a much greater burst heal when you need it.

Can’t spread sheet healing per second in a PvP mentality because it’ll never work that way.

Veritas.6071:

Assuming use on cooldown, that would make Mending’s health-per-second as powerful as Stage 2 Healing Surge while also removing 3 conditions. There would be little reason to take Surge unless you wanted Adrenaline control; as its health-per-second would only be ~17% higher than Mending’s (without healing power). Additionally, with the cooldown reduction being 20%, and only a 6% reduction to base healing, the health-per-second was actually buffed post-changes, not nerfed.

I understand not everyone uses their heals on cooldown, but I think Anet balances around what can happen and allows players to make cost/benefit choices. Balancing around what you think players will do allows people to act outside of what’s expected to maximize effectiveness; sometimes to the point of being broken. Balancing for what can happen, for those of you familiar with engines, puts a type of “governor” on gameplay. The best performance is capped at X and players have to choose if they want to perform below X to gain Y or if they want to stick with X at the cost of Y.

Use Surge and then do your F1 with cleansing Ire = 3 condis removed and a ton more health received.

Mending it just out classed by Surge and Signet.

jportell.2197:

Defektive.7283:

jportell.2197:

Defektive.7283:

jportell.2197:

I have run shatter, confusion, phantasm, condition, bunker, and anti condition mesmer. Ifthere is a mesmer bhold that somewhat seemed to make sense. I tried to make it work. With the insane Condi spam meta there isn’t anything a mesmer can do that can’t be done better by another class.

Have you be running it with a team whose actively trying to make it work. Or SoloQ.

A team that actively tried making it work our bunker ele calls me “the best mesmer in the game” which I know isn’t true but it is a testament to the fact that I know my way around this class. There is just so much more that my bunker engi can bring to a team through the tons of blast finishers and aoe healing. If my mesmer wanted to aoe heal the team for a similar amount it would be sitting there shouting “agony torment pain” for 2.75s whilst being a sitting duck.

you and Zeromis should get together, he’s come up with a few crafty build concepts I’m sure he’d like to see put to a good team test.

No clue who that is but I imagine either a PU build which is something I’ve messed with til I was blue in the face or phantasmal defender which is great for defense but unlike stone spirit which gives the entire team protection with no target it requires one. So it is less reliable and can be blinded/invulned not to mention the fact that it is way less survivable and vengeful images got nerfed into nothingness which was a bunker mesmersoonly reliable source of dps.

Zeromis is a really great mesmer, one of the finest I’ve had the pleasure of playing with.

He’s worked in some great damage to a bunker build at one point and could easily 1v1 me (extremely frustrating). Like I said, two heads are better than one – should get together and see what you could come up with.

That’s the fun of innovating right?

Mending is kitten poor.

Who cares about the conditions if you’re healing for so little that you can take that much damage a few seconds later.

jportell.2197:

Defektive.7283:

jportell.2197:

I have run shatter, confusion, phantasm, condition, bunker, and anti condition mesmer. Ifthere is a mesmer bhold that somewhat seemed to make sense. I tried to make it work. With the insane Condi spam meta there isn’t anything a mesmer can do that can’t be done better by another class.

Have you be running it with a team whose actively trying to make it work. Or SoloQ.

A team that actively tried making it work our bunker ele calls me “the best mesmer in the game” which I know isn’t true but it is a testament to the fact that I know my way around this class. There is just so much more that my bunker engi can bring to a team through the tons of blast finishers and aoe healing. If my mesmer wanted to aoe heal the team for a similar amount it would be sitting there shouting “agony torment pain” for 2.75s whilst being a sitting duck.

you and Zeromis should get together, he’s come up with a few crafty build concepts I’m sure he’d like to see put to a good team test.

jportell.2197:

Defektive.7283:

Archaon.6245:

Defektive.7283:

Because we’re lazy and Necromancers are strong.

More likely because you can’t be as strong as a necro on condition/fear spam, as tough as a spirit ranger or guardian, as good as bomb engi @ far and as fast and reliable as ele and thief @ roaming and let’s say not as annoying as permastun hammer warriors…whaterver you try someone can do it better, so there’s no reason to keep playing mesmer in tourney

Portal play can be a game changing advantage.

If a team ran an aggresive bunker mesmer instead of a Spirit Ranger they could do slick things as bate an enemy to mid, portal to far point. Clobber the guy one, leave their bunker mesmer on point as the team transitions back to mid.

I keep bringing up Bunker Mesmer because I’ve seen some slick Bunker builds out there from people like Zeromis. It may take forever to kill something as one, but they are sometimes near unkillable if played correctly. Put one on a far point either decapped or capped in your favor, and it isn’t going anywhere any time soon.

Bunker mesmer isnt as good because our bonuses and boons for bunkering come from stealth. I’ve run a PU bunker build and sure you can sit on a point while three people try killing you. But once they get wise to your roll as nothing more than trolling. Your roll on the team is pretty much nullified

agreed it’s very trolly, but if you can do that while keeping a point decapped in favor of your team, it’s a very effective troll.

I also agree the stealth issue is of concern.

Overall I feel like there’s a lot of options out there that people aren’t trying because they feel outlandish.

It’s easier to stick to the status quo than it is to try new things. And I feel like a lot of ‘good’ players switch classes quickly because they feel it’s the only way to stay competitive. But I also feel that’s a disservice to the community as well as themselves.

jportell.2197:

I have run shatter, confusion, phantasm, condition, bunker, and anti condition mesmer. Ifthere is a mesmer bhold that somewhat seemed to make sense. I tried to make it work. With the insane Condi spam meta there isn’t anything a mesmer can do that can’t be done better by another class.

Have you be running it with a team whose actively trying to make it work. Or SoloQ.

Archaon.6245:

Defektive.7283:

Because we’re lazy and Necromancers are strong.

More likely because you can’t be as strong as a necro on condition/fear spam, as tough as a spirit ranger or guardian, as good as bomb engi @ far and as fast and reliable as ele and thief @ roaming and let’s say not as annoying as permastun hammer warriors…whaterver you try someone can do it better, so there’s no reason to keep playing mesmer in tourney

Portal play can be a game changing advantage.

If a team ran an aggresive bunker mesmer instead of a Spirit Ranger they could do slick things as bate an enemy to mid, portal to far point. Clobber the guy one, leave their bunker mesmer on point as the team transitions back to mid.

I keep bringing up Bunker Mesmer because I’ve seen some slick Bunker builds out there from people like Zeromis. It may take forever to kill something as one, but they are sometimes near unkillable if played correctly. Put one on a far point either decapped or capped in your favor, and it isn’t going anywhere any time soon.

Let’s be fair, the meta has been around barely two weeks ish?

I have a sneaking suspicion people did this when having a conversation with their team:

Convo-——-
Mesmer: Guys let’s try a few different strategies since Burst is difficult for me right now. What if I played a far point bunker with Portal so I could easily get in an out of a fight as well as support team transitions? I could basically be unkillable, and if they did reserve 2+ people I could portal out.

Instant Gratification Guy 1: OR, or, HEAR ME OUT11!11!. Roll Necromancer. That way we can have two necromancers doing the exact same thing and bringing no new utility to the team fight.

Instant Gratification Guy 2: GENIUS!

Mesmer: But fellas we’ve only tried a couple new strats with a Mesmer, why are we abandoning it so quickly?

Instant Gratification Guy 3: Because we’re lazy and Necromancers are strong.

IMO: The meta is being dictated by people who don’t want to try, but rather would be a lemming and take easy street.

Personally, I feel like Mesmers are still viable.

The problem is people get to cushy playing a certain playstyle. When it’s disrupted, they would rather cry foul and switch classes than sit down and work it out.

IDK, instant gratification is strong in this community.

Jzaku.9765:

I thought it was funny. Personally I really love hammer as well but being overly attached to my charr makes it way more frustrating than it should be to play it.

Apologies, I just got to work and haven’t had my coffee.

When I started gw2 I had a charr warrior, a norn warrior and a human warrior.

The first thing I did was picked up a hammer and it felt so slow.

My little asura teddy bear monstrously attacks enemies at such lightning speed that it moves across their faces like a flash of death.

And then the witty comments always help (“Getting Healthy”).

Jzaku.9765:

Defektive.7283:

Sword Shield,

0/10/30/0/30

Zerker ammy / Soldier Rune

melandru runes

Signet mastery

Dolyak Signet / Berzerkers Stance / Signet of Stamina

Sigil of fire on Hammer and Sword, Sigil of paralyzation on Shield.

Race: asura

He asked for a hammer build, I provided a hammer build.

If asked for a race, I would have said Asura.

Sword Shield,

0/10/30/0/30

Zerker ammy / Soldier Rune

melandru runes

Signet mastery

Dolyak Signet / Berzerkers Stance / Signet of Stamina

Sigil of fire on Hammer and Sword, Sigil of paralyzation on Shield.

I think that’s a good thing, so we can’t sit in a game and figure out how to counter comp for a week.

XD thanks for the confidence guys. We’re working hard to get everything lined up correctly.

We played last night for the first time in a week and it was roouuughhh. But who cares we do this for fun :P

evilapprentice.6379:

Defektive.7283:

Fenrir.5493:

As someone stated before, on paper we can say a lot of things but the reality is that thieves DO spam blinds.

Either that or spam evade frames.

Either way it’s pretty cheesy. But it begs the question of why does it exist? Possibly because the class is weak without it? IDK, won’t really know unless we took it away.

You’re the defektive everyone talks about/to when they’re talking warrior strats/TPvP, right? If not, you can ignore this next part.

Assuming you are, don’t you think “Won’t really know unless we take it away” is a bit disingenuous? Is it really that hard to envision what you could do to a thief if they couldn’t evade alot or blind you? You’ve certainly fought some while TPvPing, you honestly can’t imagine what a free kill they’d be without those defensive tools? Come on.

When people were crying endlessly about stealth, Anet finally gave thieves another way to survive with usable, effective evades. Turns out people think those are broken too!

I think conceptually a Thief was supposed to be a get-in and out quick class. Something that can move quickly, dispense damage, and get out with out a scratch.

That comes down to intelligent teleports, stealth, and being ‘slippery’ to a target.

In-game however, it’s taken a bit further when abused by Blinds and Evades. You’re looking at a class that can teleport (on a weapon skill), teleport as a stun break, teleport to defend (or attack) a point. Then they become amplified by consistent evade frames in-combat and AoE blinds they can apply to a large portion of the enemy.

The problem then comes to light. Is a thief a sustained DPS, or a strategically placed missile that’s difficult to pin down? Warriors were supposed to be the sustained DPS, but it sometimes feels with all of a thiefs Blinds and Evades like Warriors are etched out.

So do thiefs NEED these skills? I’d arguably say yes to the evades, but no to the Blinds (atleast, the sheer amount of them right now).

Overall, I think a lot of people have gotten used to a very specific playstyle for each class. To consider or adopt a strategy that is different than norm to them comes as an insult. This drives people to new classes instead of innovating their current one.

Fenrir.5493:

As someone stated before, on paper we can say a lot of things but the reality is that thieves DO spam blinds.

Either that or spam evade frames.

Either way it’s pretty cheesy. But it begs the question of why does it exist? Possibly because the class is weak without it? IDK, won’t really know unless we took it away.

Authority.6145:

Defektive.7283:

Authority.6145:

Defektive.7283:

I wouldn’t put your money on us considering our 5th can’t even play and we’re scrambling to find a new one.

Half our team can’t even play right now either – one doesn’t have internet for the last 2 days, the other’s computer broke.

Things look grim.

That is grim. I really hope that you will be able to pull it off and everything goes to your favor in the end. Hope dies last.

By the way have you got new tournament material to upload on your twitch? Really enjoyed watching that 2.30h video.

We havnt played due to all hardware failures, we’re looking to pick it back up tonight – we also have ML matches to do.

May stream depending on how rusty everyone is.

Edit: On another note, look how schweet I look:

Did you guys pick it up already?

By the way this was excellent stuff;
http://www.twitch.tv/soacgaming/c/2653837

I watched it today and played a couple of matches and I was fighting a couple of necros I noticed protection popping up with their spectral armor. Haven’t payed attention to that and only did due to watching that show.

My damage/burst/backstab on D/P was nullified to say the least every time they would pop up.

We worked out the kinks and are getting practices back on track after a one week break. We’re about 90% sure the 5 core members will be competing at the qualifiers without a sub.

But there’s still a chance we can get screwed. XD

nicknamenick.2437:

I have been looking at Defektive build runing m/sh + s/m..

But i wonder why not s/sh + m/m ??

Because:

Well to get 100% crit on Final thrust you will need unsuspected foe:
+15% stun on shield bash = 100% crit on final thrust.
And shield bash is on a very short distance, so with s/sh you can leap first > shield bash > final thrust

If you run sword/mace and do Tremor you dont get the extra 50%.. its a knockback.

Also i think its easier to mace/mace > Tremor > F1 stun = complete mace chain.

Just Mace F1 → Switch Weapons → dance for 2.5 seconds → Final thrust and still get the 100% crit.

I prefer Mace Shield together because it concentrates my blocks and allows me to clearly define in my brain the defensive weapon set needed when I’m in a pinch.

Puandro.3245:

Defektive.7283:

I like the concept, wish we had the gear in sPvP to hit those levels of regen.

He only has 950 HP, which is less than what you can get in spvp with the Shaman amulet.

HP or Regen? 950 healing per sec is quite a big difference. I said i wish we could get that level of Regen.

I like the concept, wish we had the gear in sPvP to hit those levels of regen.

Schlieffen.2054:

Follidus.8027:

Steb.2571:

But Shadow trap is fine.

So where’s the counter-play on shadow trap?

Mesmer portal?

Flesh Wurm

huehuehue

Acandis.3250:

Thedenofsin.7340:

Here’s a thought: Ask the teams to lock down their builds and submit them to the shoutcasters (or ArenaNet) the night before the match. That would give people time to put together some intelligent commentary about the builds and team comps before the fight.

(Assuming your shoutcasters are trustworthy)

I am not in favor of this. Countercomping is a HUGE part of this game.
I would be ok with them showing my build if the stream or the spectator feature had a delay on it. Until that happens, I expect builds will not be shown on stream so there’s no streamsniping for builds.

Agreed with Acandis. Teams should not know who they are facing until they step into the arena. At that point they shouldn’t be allowed to leave the arena (to prevent profession switches or trait changes).

Counter Comping is downright cheesy. Did you like it when friends looked at your screen when playing Halo as a kid (Lan Multiplayer)?

I think this is the first time I’ve agreed with you.

Jzaku.9765:

Poor defektive though, his audio was completely screwy and I could only make out 40% of what he was saying. Maybe get the call up and make sure everything is fine before starting to record?

we decided to use Google Hangouts for the first time, I think it was screwing up my mic unfortunately.

Oh well XD

Authority.6145:

Defektive.7283:

I wouldn’t put your money on us considering our 5th can’t even play and we’re scrambling to find a new one.

Half our team can’t even play right now either – one doesn’t have internet for the last 2 days, the other’s computer broke.

Things look grim.

That is grim. I really hope that you will be able to pull it off and everything goes to your favor in the end. Hope dies last.

By the way have you got new tournament material to upload on your twitch? Really enjoyed watching that 2.30h video.

We havnt played due to all hardware failures, we’re looking to pick it back up tonight – we also have ML matches to do.

May stream depending on how rusty everyone is.

Edit: On another note, look how schweet I look:

I wouldn’t put your money on us considering our 5th can’t even play and we’re scrambling to find a new one.

Half our team can’t even play right now either – one doesn’t have internet for the last 2 days, the other’s computer broke.

Things look grim.

jsu.4370:

Authority.6145:

Jon Peters.

I have got one question.

Two words… Sup Cutie. #AL

Doesn’t play a mesmer anymore.

Nikkle.4013:

Defektive.7283:

dodgerrule.8739:

I feel like you are complaining about anyone that can take you out with just aoes. The only way this would work is if you were a glass cannon of some kind. Seeing as glass cannons don’t use any toughness I feel like you should be 1 shot.

Voz plays a very compelling engineer. Being that engineers are essentially an AoE class right now (grenades, bombs etc.), I think his thoughts on this subject hold some weight.

He just posted “They were meant to be small, and you do not need to see if your opponent is necessarily using a skill. Take a chance, Tyria is filled with it.” in regard to asura’s. Clearly he doesn’t pvp.

Discussion is about AoE in PvP, not Asuras.

dodgerrule.8739:

I feel like you are complaining about anyone that can take you out with just aoes. The only way this would work is if you were a glass cannon of some kind. Seeing as glass cannons don’t use any toughness I feel like you should be 1 shot.

Voz plays a very compelling engineer. Being that engineers are essentially an AoE class right now (grenades, bombs etc.), I think his thoughts on this subject hold some weight.

jmatb.6307:

Defektive.7283:

iSylvir.7316:

Only it isn’t like that at all.

Minion Necromancer builds are mediocre at best, and there are better builds for competitive play. Meanwhile, Mesmers have always been clone-centric, and that won’t change, and can’t, without damaging the actual gameplay of Mesmers. Spirit Rangers are pretty strong right now, but there are alternative builds. No one is running the build because it’s giving them minions to do the work for them, they’re doing it because it’s simply the superior build right now.

AoE damage is pretty negligible, as focusing a target should be your priority. Aside from the AoE downed cleave, I don’t really recall anyone going for massive AoE unless they’re fighting over a point, in which case it provides zone control and helps deny enemies from the point; which means the AoE’s are serving their intended purpose.

Do we play the same game?

Ya AoE is so underpowered. Nothing strong about being able to simultaneously attack 3 or 4 ppl at a time in a teamfight from using a couple skills >.>

Gosh L2play Defektive

back into the dungeon for me it seems.

iSylvir.7316:

Only it isn’t like that at all.

Minion Necromancer builds are mediocre at best, and there are better builds for competitive play. Meanwhile, Mesmers have always been clone-centric, and that won’t change, and can’t, without damaging the actual gameplay of Mesmers. Spirit Rangers are pretty strong right now, but there are alternative builds. No one is running the build because it’s giving them minions to do the work for them, they’re doing it because it’s simply the superior build right now.

AoE damage is pretty negligible, as focusing a target should be your priority. Aside from the AoE downed cleave, I don’t really recall anyone going for massive AoE unless they’re fighting over a point, in which case it provides zone control and helps deny enemies from the point; which means the AoE’s are serving their intended purpose.

Do we play the same game?

JonPeters.5630:

Defektive.7283:

JonPeters.5630:

We believe the majority of the issue is the effects spam. News on that front coming VERY soon. Once that is out of the way we can start to address other concerns.

Jon

That’s probably a good first step. However, it’s fairly common for competitive games to have standardized avatar models.

Example: Unreal Tournament.

I wouldn’t put it past the community to request this as a feature since it does make sense in the scheme of things.

Didn’t you just basically request it? :P

I’ll bring it up when I get back, although I know we haven’t explored it much and there will be some issues.

Lil ol me passively requesting things!? Impossibru!

:P

JonPeters.5630:

We believe the majority of the issue is the effects spam. News on that front coming VERY soon. Once that is out of the way we can start to address other concerns.

Jon

That’s probably a good first step. However, it’s fairly common for competitive games to have standardized avatar models.

Example: Unreal Tournament.

I wouldn’t put it past the community to request this as a feature since it does make sense in the scheme of things.

Honestly? it should be base.

Ashanor.5319:

YuiRS.8129:

Well, most accomplished PvP teams are already well adjusted to each other and just don’t want to change classes.

Also, there’s not been much time to test the Warrior with the last changes. It will take some time for meta to shift (or not shift, which would indicate that Warriors are still on the weak side).

Except, a lot of people didn’t have a problem switching to Necro, many of whom switched almost immediately. I mean maybe that was because Necro is so powerful they just felt they couldn’t win without it and Warrior is actually balanced so they didn’t feel the need to switch to using one. Was there an initial qualifier round where teams that had Warriors got eliminated or was there really just no teams that entered with Warriors?

There was one team with one warrior.

They weren’t very good (as a team), and the warrior exploded in seconds due to running an extremely glassy GS/Longbow build.

Oh well.

I’d be ok with rerolling to a Human or Sylvari for the sake of making the game easier on the viewers.

Even tho I’m overly attached to my from-launch Asura.

Thedenofsin.7340:

Stun breaks are useless because you will be stunned again within a second. The only thing you can do is blind or disengage.

CC warriors are over the top OP and need an immediate nerf.

Ya I agree, their influence on this weekends tournament was immense.

There was one Warrior that played.

Unfortunately his team was sub par and he was also running a 30/30/10/0/0 GS Longbow. Thus he got blown up in a matter of seconds entering each team fight.

shimzor.6057:

Defektive.7283:

Would get so many views. Be front page of twitch every time.

• Don’t Feed the Trolls
• Keep up the good work

He’s not trolling, Deany is a buddy XD

robocafaz.9017:

Defektive.7283:

I’ll keep in mind that people want more dramatic videos without play by play or concepts about fighting a thief.

You’ve gotta get with the MMO video guide metagame if you want people to pay attention.

Try this approach:

“HEY GUYS ITS XXXXDEFEKTIVEXXX LIKE AND FAVE AND SUBSCRIBE AND I’LL UHHH SHOW YOU HOW TO AAAAH PLAY THIS REALLY AWESOME WARRIOR BUILD BUILD. Wub wub wub wub wub wub wub wub ‘XXXXDEFEKTIVEXXXGUIDES ON YOUTUBE’ SO FIRST UH I’M GONNA TALK A BIT ABOUT THE WARRIOR CLASS AND UHH UM HOW I REALLY LIKE IT. A LOT OF PEOPLE DON’T PLAY THE WARRIORBECAUSE THEY THINK IT’S TOO HARD BUT I THINK IT’S PRETTY EASY AND REALLY VERSATILE. THIS BUILD REQUIRES A BIT OF GEAR FIRST SO MAKE SURE YOU’RE USING SPVP AMULETS AND UH. UH, YOU CAN GET AMULETS GEAR BY RUNNING TO NPCS OR KARMA TEMPLE RUNS OR CRAFTING. FOR THIS GUIDE I LIKE TO USE UHH berserkergearwithknightsrunesandiputtwentyinarmsmasteryandthirtyinkittensmackingthenyouwannawearalongbowandonlypopyourfearwhenyouregoingforakillingblow OKAY THANKS FOR WATCHING LIKE FAVE AND SUBSCRIBE IF YOU WANNA SEE MORE Wub wub wub wub wub wub wub.”

Would get so many views. Be front page of twitch every time.

tcbear.2357:

http://www.twitch.tv/tarcisanastasis/c/2424378

I think this video is more dramatic.

Btw nice video guide!

I’ll keep in mind that people want more dramatic videos without play by play or concepts about fighting a thief. But would prefer to see one consistently miss a single attack and take a bunch of AoE.