Guild Wars 2

I can gain 50 ranks in a week easy.

Omega.9601:

For the people that thought FA was imploding and would for some reason lose to SBI…

It’s still the weekend. Can you keep up the pressure?

OP needs to specify what type of roaming he’s talking about because there’s two kinds.
One that actually does something towards their servers score (killing yaks, tagging keeps, picking off stragglers etc) or one where you run around looking for random people to gank.

The former deserves rewards, the latter doesn’t.

Winning the league isn’t guaranteed for JQ. SoR is guaranteed a win in all matchups not involving JQ so they have a shot at winning the league as well.

1) You don’t HAVE to play on reset night
2) There are 24 hours in a day
3) There are 7 days in a week
4) The league lasts 7 weeks

Stop complaining. If you’re not prepared to wait in queue then that’s your problem.

Aurust.8961:

Truearrow.3527:

Aurust.8961:

Cosmic Sparklejunk.3514:

Fingers crossed for an SoR/SoS/Mag for the inaugural league matchup tonight.

That would be an interesting matchup IF SOS and MAG agree to double team SOR hardcore…. I mean SOR will still completely destroy them but there will be fights atleast.

Im pretty sure i would speak for the rest of SOR, that we would welcome an official 2v1 in that scenario…..

You are in for a surprise if you think anything about Maguuma will be a “pushover” scenario, ask Jade Quarry or Tarnished Coast, you will have your hands full with us let alone SoS, we can que 4 maps with skilled guilds and pubbies.
Many thanks to our dedicated guilds and players, Paralda/Pyro, Diviniya and Razi/Ark, Bony/DERP, Xushin and his pain train for making this happen. We pulled together as a server and got it done against the odds and efforts to the contrary. I’m very proud to be Maguuma right now. 7 weeks of tears gold league, that’s what you are in for, come at us bros, kitten ppt, give us an open field to wreck you in or a smoking hole in the side of a tower or keep to farm you in.

You lost to SBI, we just had SBI and SOS, our hands were most definitely not full…….. Ill give it a day before the debate about who has better roamers starts due to Maguuma QQ.

Maguuma doesn’t have any roamers or small guilds anymore.

Sanduskel.1850:

I am from SOR, and this sickens me. Please name the sor guilds who did this?

If you’re talking about the match fixing, it’s your server’s leadership that’s doing it (aka FEAR and possibly TW). They’ve forbidden the rest of SoR’s guilds from capping SBI’s garrison. They currently have a karma train running around in circles in SBI BL capping everything except that waypointed keep they could very easily take.

Chris.3290:

The worst part is that this is a highly cynical move in order to demoralize SBI and hopefully (from SoR’s point of view) encourage transfers to their server.

Yup. SBI being in the gold league will kill the server and SoR is banking on the fact that no one EVER transfers down. They really, really want Kiwi, TE and Abys.
SBI vs FA in the silver league would be a lot more exciting.

Mepheles.2087:

Our Position at #4 may be ripped from us, as our PvE pop cannot be convinced WvW matters, and we have nothing to offer guilds who might be thinking of transferring. atm, FC had a giant zerg in EB in the afternoon that doubled anything we currently had since Saturday. Our problem is that our presence is not consistent, every afternoon. couple that with our non-existent night presence and boy how did we ever make it out of T8 at all..

Wait until the leagues start. The pve players will come out to play.

I’m guessing either HoD or FC will win this.

BG is the only T1 server with good roamers.

Nick.6972:

What happened to FA.
At this rate, if we continue dropping our ranks I seriously consider quitting WvW.
Did we intentionally drop our ranks? Did 1/3 Guilds leave?

Chill. You just got a whole heap of transfers.

Banzie.5248:

None of you guys have seen BP after their amount of xfers, They can compete with FA now

Didn’t they only get 3 guilds? Two of which are small…

1 – SBI
2 – FA
3/4 – DB/BP
5 – CD
6 – YB
7 – EB
8 – IoJ
9 – NSP

Epic battle for 1st between SBI and FA. FA has picked up FTF from Ebay and their oceanic force is still around. SBI beat Mag/FA due to their NA guilds (Abys/BAEST/TE) playing well into oceanic prime time. They’ll get tired eventually. The question is, when? Does FA have enough to take them on?

3rd/4th will be a battle between BP and DB. Right now BP is looking stronger but DB has its enormous pve population that it can rely on. NNK, TFV and GA are still there as well and they are much better at capping keeps and open field fighting than DPS. Participation by pve/x guilds will determine who gets 3rd.

CD has asians, YB has weekend warriors. CD wins overall.

I’ve heard IoJ is losing several guilds. Well, I hope they don’t transfer to T1 servers. They’ll still have enough of an oceanic presence to beat NSP.

I hope NSP is up for the challenge.

JQ doesn’t need more people. In a BG/SoR/JQ matchup, they already win quite comfortably.

Out of SoR/BG, you’ll have a better chance of getting into maps on SoR. A lot of their guilds only play for like 1-2 hours whereas BG’s guilds play 3+ hours. BG has been queuing all 4 maps for at least 15 minutes pretty much everyday.

I encourage anyone with an answer for Morticus to please pm him the details. The last thing we need is more guilds getting poached by T1 servers.

To this very day (and I can almost guarantee someone from each T1 server will say this tonight) “we need to recruit more people for x timezone” is the mentality in T1. It doesn’t matter that your oceanic population is 5 times the size of a T2 server’s oceanic population, if another T1 server has 15-30 more people than you then you’re outnumbered and need to recruit.

Relentless Bunny.6410:

Don’t Forget that out of the “T1” Servers, SoR is the one with the smallest population and is still on very high while other servers are full. I know it is still a large amount of coverage compared to other servers, but I just want to reassure that we are not a “10,000” man blob server. Most of the zergs you most likely saw were porting from one map to the other when needed. Other than that, had lots of fun fights tonight, keep up the good integrity and spirit!

No server is full at the moment. Also, server population =/= wvw population

Nozzie.2067:

The current match-up guarantees that NSP will be in Bronze League. Last spot in Silver League will go to either Kain or HoD.

It’s reset night…
Everyone knows not to pay attention to rating changes until the weekend is over. If Kaineng continues to perform in their current state, they have a good shot at dropping down. They should be in the bronze league anyway.

While this is a great idea, T1 servers have the capability to outbid T2 servers when it comes to acquiring guilds, and there’s nothing you can do to stop them.

Also, what oceanic/sea guilds are left to fill T2….. majority of them have been bought up and absorbed into T1 servers. Only way this will work is if the transfers come from T1 and good luck getting that to happen. We’ll have to wait for one of them to implode.

[Meow] needs to be congratulated. So far the only guild brave enough to leave T1 for a T2 server. Others should follow their lead. Don’t be a wuss.

Azure.8412:

I really think SoR has the weakest Oceanic now, with HIRE fading more and more.

Quick! Start contacting all the oceanic guilds not in T1!!! Again!!!

^Most of us beg to differ. There should never have been free transfers in the first place.

A bug and a crash. It happens.

And if Anet doesn’t change the leagues, here’s something you guys can do to encourage destacking:

How to kill T1 stacking via boredom: don’t let them karma train.
That’s what they do to keep themselves busy during blowout matches. Deny them that luxury and they have nothing. Of course, that means you can’t karma train as well but for the greater good….

Also, during NA prime time, consolidate ALL your forces into one map (or two). Let the other 2/3 maps be completely capped. They will find that there is only 1-2 maps with things to cap and people to fight. Agonizing queue times will be encountered as their entire wvw population tries to get into one map. Cue the queue QQs.

And for all the oceanics, asians and euros out there who aren’t in T2:
They DO have them. Stop transferring to T1 and head to T2. The foundations have been built…. now come and let it flourish.

TC has : KH, Awe, xTyr, INVC, NAGA -> all oceanic/sea guilds – TC is the RP server and has a large pve community. If you want people to pve with during your wvw down time, TC has you covered. A lot of CD’s old asian community is now on TC. TC also has a solid militia force. No matter what time of day, there WILL be people out in WvW (eu prime time included).

FA has: uA, AVTR, NV, DPS, Meow, BKB -> all oceanic/sea guilds – If you’re oceanic, you should know that FA absorbed a lot of IoJ’s oceanic community. That includes several pvx/pve guilds which I did not list. And let’s not forget the asian community DPS/BKB (malaysians, filipinos) as well as quite a number of Japanese pvx guilds.

Both TC/FA have enough of their NA online during EU prime so if any euro guilds transfer to them, you won’t be alone. Some brave guilds just need to get the ball rolling. Take the first leap. Do what IRON did for SoR that eventually lead to KISS and AFTL moving over.

SoR definitely stands a chance. Their sea is capable of queuing 3 maps. Add in the superior eu coverage.

It’s going to be interesting to see who will win. SoR or JQ.
BG, of course, stands no chance.

I think a commander chat function would work better so that commanders can communicate with each other across maps.

azizul.8469:

which TC guilds moved to T1 ?

[WvW], [ZN] (I believe another guild merged into it right before they left, correct me if I’m wrong) and [Dii].

Minoru.1237:

No queues during JQ NA. Join us. We’d love to get more NA support.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Ridiculously-long-queue-s/first#post2937927

Uhh the only servers with 24/7 coverage are T1 servers.

FA is already the next best thing. You have 24/7 coverage fit for a T2 server. Don’t think you should jump ship so quick just because of the leagues….

Remember… Anet has said they are open to adjusting the league structure if the current one fails.

Well be prepared. It’s about to get a lot worse.

SBI has a pretty large NA but their off-peak is miniscule compared to the T1 servers and TC/FA. So 6th spot will most likely end up with SoS due to the coverage advantage they have over SBI. Maguuma really stands no chance at this point in the gold league but they’ll get to battle it out against SBI.

Zackie.8923:

they could get rid of all the pve world bonus associated with wvw.

that way, you can get rid of all the pvers who are interested in the bonus and not wvw.

The people causing the imbalance are not doing it for the rewards……….

Problem with basing gem costs on wvw population is that these servers can just organize to not turn up to wvw for a week and have the cost reduced as a result. Similar to how full servers would organize blackouts to drop their population to very high.

Also, what would happen if a server has a low wvw population but the server itself was full (as a result of a large pve population)? You can’t let more people in if there’s no space left.

ykyk.2740:

Kimhyuna.1035:

ykyk.2740:

Terrible change.

Mainly for TC, FA and DB as it stands. Better for T1 servers though.

Definitely terrible for TC/FA/number 6 (got a feeling DB isn’t going to be there when leagues roll out), but not necessarily better for T1 servers either. There’s less incentive to de-stack now and queues could become a real problem when the achievement crap makes all the PvE people jump into WvW. JQ and BG have massive PvE populations and I’m sure SoR isn’t a small server either. Ditto TC.

Nobody wins when there’s no reason to de-stack, and god knows there’s no reason to de-stack now. If anything people from 4-6 are going to move up or down to avoid an entire season of being run over, the top half of the league drown in queues while the bottom is empty.

Well it’s a good thing that having fun/balanced matchups is more important to these T1 servers and they’ll point all guilds hoping to transfer towards TC/FA/X.

Oh wait… nope! Winning/pvdoor/ppt is everything and as we speak they are courting more guilds into their server.

I hope these guilds will realize the damage that they will be doing and will have the brains/decency to move to a T2 server. Contrary to popular belief, they do have coverage. I’m looking at you AFTL…………………………

The devs have already explained why they will never make a change like this. Stop trying to make it happen.

Didn’t INC leave a while ago?

Wraistlin.6072:

Cap all WvW maps to 100 (100 was just a random number plucked….whatever number is more realistic) players per server, per map.
Will force population to spread out, or players sit in a que.

Then armies on each map are even.

The map cap already is ~100 per server per map…

I’m pretty sure most serious wvw players don’t play for the rewards….

All this will do is bring in more rallybots and karma trainers. How is that a good thing?

Gannicus.4132:

There is a difference between desperation and keen interest to welcome new guilds to the community. I hope you can reflect on the immaturity of your act after this.

I would think that if anyone was serious about welcoming a guild into their community for more than just winning/stacking they would do their research. By research I mean looking at the op’s post history…….

Melanion.4892:

Why not 3 tiers of 8?

It’s like everyone forgot that there was a number between 2 and 4… This would make it 1-8, 9-16, 17-24. Ideally, I’d like tiers of 6 so there’s less face-stomping, but I’d think 1 vs 8 would be far less bad than 1 vs 12. Likewise, 1 vs 6 would be less bad than either of the two, but what can we do?

Oh wait, we could try fixing the wvw population distribution. But we’ll just keep masking the real issues with fake new issues that nobody really cares about.

More like you forgot that 8 isn’t a multiple of 3.

Lol at all the desperate servers that fell for this.

Chill out guys. Let the T1 servers continue what they’re doing. Once they realize how boring their matchups are and once they realize that the winner of the league is beyond their control (anet matchmaking will determine the victor), this will fix itself.

ykyk.2740:

I feel bad for the people really. Some T1/2 guilds have been destacking to lower tiers – good on them. Those still going to the top will enjoy the fruits of their gems when they fight doors for a month straight.

I would be very surprised if they were actually destacking.

Lord Kuru.3685:

JQ vs SoR and BG twice would actually be for the best. Imagine if JQ were put up against lower level servers twice: that would be zero fun for everyone involved.

JQ would find this matchup very fun actually.

Jayne.9251:

Lord Kuru.3685:

Jayne.9251:

Time to move to EU. While there’s grumbling about potential matchups, the population is by far more evenly spread out than the mess that NA is …. and should make for some interesting matches. Honestly, pick any server but the top two, and you’ll likely have a blast.

Wouldn’t you just be PvD’ing the whole time since you’re (most likely) not on during European prime time?

No, that’s largely a myth. There are NA crews on various servers (Viz has French Canadians and Baruch has some South Americans, for example). SFR has a really nice NA crew, and others have some 50-man competitive numbers …. But yes, if you didn’t do your research and went to a server with existing NA coverage you’d be bored to tears because there would just be more of you overwhelming the smaller night time crews. The key is to do the opposite of what NA has done and spread out for the fights.

There’s even decent oceanic and sea on some servers.

EU is packed on most servers during its prime, but there is action all around the clock, it really depends if you can content yourself with a 30-50 man fight vs say 100 man. Less lag anyhow, and no queues

Almost all of the Oceanic, SEA and NA that you speak of are actually european players not playing during prime time.

ArkAngel.7940:

Don’t mind us. No skill lag here…

Someone else from your server says otherwise (scroll up). No one is gonna transfer because of a problem anet can fix by removing this stupid buff.

The skill lag has gotten a lot worse. The server has to make even more calculations now due to the stupid/pointless/moronic bloodlust buff.

One thing we’ve learned: ANET DOESN’T TEST ANYTHING
oh wait, we already knew that…..

Much respect for IoM for what they’ve done for ET. You guys are steadily improving as a server. It’s great to see. I hope other guilds will take up the challenge.

Rhaegus.8924:

Deli.1302:

Rhaegus.8924:

Can someone please help me?
I still can’t understand why people are complaining we recruited 4 guilds?

2 guilds, GD and TKG, to fill up the absolute void we had in EU and oceanic.

2 guilds, NS and Agg, to replace the 4 (!) guilds we lost in NA (aco, WARD, WvW, Pro)

You guys really prefer to fight our doors? I simply can’t find another explanation :-/

You didn’t lose WvW. Just it’s guild leadership.

Glad you know ALL the things about guilds on servers you loathe.

No, Zombieland is empty. After their leaders left the players also left the guild, thus leaving an empty guild.

That’s exactly what I was saying lol. I believe Grey (and HzH aswell?) is where the leftovers moved to.

Rhaegus.8924:

Can someone please help me?
I still can’t understand why people are complaining we recruited 4 guilds?

2 guilds, GD and TKG, to fill up the absolute void we had in EU and oceanic.

2 guilds, NS and Agg, to replace the 4 (!) guilds we lost in NA (aco, WARD, WvW, Pro)

You guys really prefer to fight our doors? I simply can’t find another explanation :-/

You didn’t lose WvW. Just it’s guild leadership.

Zikory.6871:

Honestly a lot of work has gone into this match up from all 3 servers and no one is trying to build a super server like before.

JQ disagrees with you.