Guild Wars 2

Forcing people to leave their server is a bad thing.

It really boils down to the lack of competition in the low tiers. As guilds get better, they want to challenge themselves and fight more/new guilds and servers. Only one way to do that….

Why did Darkhaven implode btw? Can’t be due to lack of competition… they were T4/5….

Wow, the op is like the definition of a fairweather/freeloader. No server wants this type of person.

Try and pm the guy directly. I doubt they’d still be checking this sub forum.

I’m wondering why HoD, NSP and SF aren’t being considered. They are all well established, stable servers with a core set of guilds from what I know. You should really check them out too.

Dude, what the heck. A LOT of EU servers have sizable forces out during asian prime time. Remember: euro prime time starts during asian prime time (russians, eastern europeans etc). Of the 4 servers you’ve listed, Piken, Riverside and Desolation will have plenty of people out there. I’m not too sure about Gunnar’s though.

SBI, to my knowledge, does not have any large asian guilds. Unless you like running in small groups or unorganized pug zergs, the only NA servers to consider outside T1 is TC (which is almost T1), FA, DB or CD. All have 2 or more asian guilds.

Neandramathal.9536:

Not everyone plays the same. My guild and I enjoy what we do and we do it with just as much ‘passion’ as the next person, it simply is a different way of playing to what you do, that doesn’t make it inferior or deserving of being treated different. We used to go into WvW every minute we were online, not just every night, and we ALWAYS put our full effort into it. We had plenty of ‘respect and renown’ on the servers we played on/against. Difference was that because we are a small guild it was smaller servers, so what? Only reason we don’t go into WvW as much anymore is because these smaller servers suddenly weren’t so small after a lot of server hopping. We played with plenty of passion and had lots of fun, there was no need to make it “more fun”, if anything the players themselves made it LESS fun.

Example, last night we tried to have some small scale fights (2v2-5v5) with other guilds we know on the lower tier servers, only to find every single zone had GvG’s in it and so there was a) queues, and b) no room at the windmill. So we did it round the corner with very little room to move, only to find once the GvGer’s had finished they came and killed us… we respected their GvG, why don’t they respect ours? Their response “We are just having fun”.

Regardless of anything else, we are players exactly the same as the next person. No one should be treated any differently.

I don’t think Sacrx is the one looking for a response. I’m sure a large portion of the wvw community wants one regarding the revelations in his video though…

Omaris Mortuus Est.2738:

So Anet can hinder WvW as much as they want, we’ll just find a way around it and carry on; or as some have already done, leave the game. The devs can have their esport with Team Paradigm cos noone else really cares.

Yea, anet is obsessed with spvp/esports (even though all the great esports have been accidental) but they’re doing a terrible job of that as well. Spvp players are leaving in droves too, even Xeph/Team Paradigm.

Check this out: http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/85121-xephs-last-words/
It was deleted from the spvp section, so it got posted on guru.

Too many things…. List would go on forever…..

lordkrall.7241:

Because it is spreading confidential information that should not be available to the public (yet?)?

Oh I think most people will agree that it should be available to the public.

Anet won’t respond to this. There’s nothing they can say that won’t sink their credibility any further. The cat’s out of the bag. No one is gonna believe a word they say (unless they confirm everything Sacrx has revealed).

Quednau.7390:

I cant find the video…

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/

8th one down. Anet is currently deleting all direct links to the video (I wonder why…..)

Anyone notice how it’s the same 2-3 people that are against the majority and posting in all threads like this?

2 and 4 are a huge no no. Just because your server can’t fill all maps doesn’t mean others should suffer. There’s already enough incentive for small group play. Transfer costs should never ever be decreased. It will destroy servers. You seriously need to consider how your proposed changes would affect the EU servers, not just NA.

Murakami.5243:

I don’t usually call out hackers and exploiters but I must say this match up has shown the most I’ve ever seen out of all WvW matchups I’ve played in.

What is this kitten?

There’s a well known glitch in Anz that sometimes causes you to be teleported below the lord room. It can’t be done on purpose afaik. Happens in Durios as well.

Aurust.8961:

saiyr.3071:

Aurust.8961:

We should massacre the dolyak parade….. It may be worth it to see what may possibly be the largest flood of tears ever witnessed on these boards.

Yeah, nobody has ever had that idea before… :P

Yea, but this is combined with such an overwhelming slaughter…….. Not to mention the general toxic nature of this thread. Im tellin’ ya…. this could be precious.

It’s almost like you’ve never even heard of Fort Aspenwood in your life….

The guilds that left SFR did it to force the bandwagoners out, not in some grand scheme to reap some rewards like you are suggesting. Once the bandwagon guilds/players left they came back to the server they love and worked hard for. Sad to see that the cycle seems to be repeating.

sostronk.8167:

Which Tier 1 server is getting 2 hour queues? I know its not BG because I play during all timezones and even reset (where the longest queue is) doesn’t have a 2 hour queue. Id assume its not JQ because they have less attendance than us. I can only guess its SOR NA prime?

He’s talking about Seafarer’s Rest.

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Aieo,

Thanks for your point of view.

Also Traejan, have you faced the JQ SEA 60-80man force hitting either BG or SOR nearly every SEA night since Jan/Feb 2013? That existed before either BG or SOR came up with the map blobs.

FW

Aieo.2815:

dwahvel.7356:

Traejan.1729:

Burl.9567:

Traejan.1729:

Asudementio.8526:

Elano.2014:

It’s equally hard, if not harder, to find TC roamers during the past few days as well. Half of them just run away when I wave, while the other half either die too soon or run into structures half-way through battle.

I guess roamers are now a rare species across all servers.

I blame the blob mentality SoR has:
1. Created in the T1 NA wvw meta game
2. Championed for more than half a year
..etc..

Fixed that for you..

Some people just want to see the world burn

ANet created the blob mentality and only strengthened its stranglehold with every subsequent patch. It was never one server championing the idea of it. Hopefully the new BLs will alleviate some of this play style…

I share your hope that one day the blobbing will end but let’s not try to re-write history here…

SoR created this tactic to stay competitive in T1 before the IRON/KISS EU transfers.

SoR continued this tactic once they had a large influx of players across multiple time zones and continue to map blob even now.

Every other server has had to do the same to compete and now the lag is pretty much unbearable.

created the tactic eh? I guess those PRX (hod) RUIN (et) map blobs didn’t really exist in t1 a year ago. I’m sure jq had some as well but can’t think of any of the guilds.

This guy speaks the truth. I recall map blobs back when PRX and RUIN were at their prime.

Don’t forget the NYS blob. They’ve been around just as long.

Why are people complaining about BG blobbing? Of all the T1 servers, their NA blobs the least. I agree about them blobbing during oceanic/sea though…. that CA zerg in EB….

Wait during the week. If anything, only GoF and Icoa will blob. The rest generally don’t unless hitting something big.

What happened to it being easy for the opposing server to remove the buff?? This looks like it’ll be kitten near impossible to neutralize it.

covenn.7165:

Phoebe Poison.4875:

Pics or it didn’t happen.

Then we can congratulate on the 2nd place.

He is the first to do it as the only person playing the account. The first account to get 250k had more than one person playing it.

Source ?

Isn’t this the guy who spends the majority of his game time afk? The power of necros!

Chris.3290:

Deli.1302:

IoJ’s NA is much larger than SoS’s actually. IoJ has CORE, HARD, TEST among others which all field 15+.

You didn’t help your argument there. SoS fields more than that in organized groups alone and dwarfs that in militia.

Look, we on SoS are rooting for all comeback servers. SBI, IoJ, HoD, and even ET; we know what’s it’s like to take a fall. However, you aren’t bigger than us in NA, Oceanic, SEA, or EU.

When you see us talk about how we need more or other servers talk about our low NA, we are talking in relation to the servers we often face, that run 40 man zergs on multiple maps.

We are recruiting heavily for organized WvW groups so that all our militia groups are not rallying just on one group, so we can spread out into multiple borderlands or do coordinated operations within the same borderland.

Would you care to go into specifics about SoS’s NA guilds and the numbers they field, like the guy above me has done for IoJ?

globe.7238:

Count the blue lines, thats totally 20 people. It it a requirement to be completely delusional to the amount of players one actually has around them to be on SoR? Or can you guys not do simple mathematics?

The worst part about your screenshot is this “Savage Cheater” guy on your server who stole the name of one of the greatest gvgers in gw1, Ensign. Despicable.

Le Rooster.8715:

Banzie.5248:

All of you suggesting SoS, While you do fit most of the bill. He did state that they wanted to play casually and not become a main source of players for the server.

I just want to clear something up, SoS’s NA coverage is in no way shape or form low or bad. our NA coverage is pretty strong (much stronger then Ioj’s and Darkhaven’s) it’s just that relative to our oceanic,Eu and SEA coverage we should have a much stronger NA coverage.

IoJ’s NA is much larger than SoS’s actually. IoJ has CORE, HARD, TEST among others which all field 15+.

SoR is more united as a server. TC has a divided community when it comes to wvw ideals. They do a great job of ignoring it though.

Kiltor.9362:

hammer.9721:

dwahvel.7356:

SleepingDragon.1596:

Wilco.1458:

SoR is going to take it too seriously, recruit two or three or eight more guilds, and we’re going to pray we’re not in the same bracket as them.

Otherwise no change.

Is that what SOR is doing? Recruit 24/7 even when they are outnumbering people in almost all time zones? I thought they only buy guilds… Anyways, I can attest to SOR’s bigger blobs since I have multiple accounts span across multiple servers. Maybe I must not be logging on enough to see them not have less than their opponents. Seems like BG can no longer form those big blobs like SOR. Strange that it seems like BG and JQ already have a few guilds that may have went unofficial and when it happens on SOR for 1 guild, they quickly “recruit multiples guilds” as they called it… to make sure their blobs doesn’t shrink.

Of course I mean sor actually won a matchup. It must be because we recruit guilds every week and overstacked the server. Have fun in pve jq/bg.

Well you guys do have 2 recruitment threads right now while one server doesnt even have 1.

Haven’t had any new guilds come over in some time now. It is very obvious as to most of the kids went back to school and mom and dad won’t let them play as late anymore. Cant wait for Christmas break right guys!!!!

Didn’t MMAD and ZerO come in recently? I know they’re both small guilds but still… a little recognition!

When was the last time a T1 server faced a T3 or lower server? Where does it say that T3 and lower servers are gonna get matched up with T1 servers? Just because you’re in the same league doesn’t mean you’re gonna fight each other. In no way should anet force people to transfer out of their server. Some have been there since day one…

Setsunayaki.4907:

I was in IoJ a very long time ago. I have many memories of the server being a decent home for a long time. The server had a lot of oceanic guilds and was struggling in NA time slot but even so the guilds became tightly close and familiar with one another.

Eventually IoJ became a server with a tier 3 population which made it into tier one. I was one of the players who went to IoJ when they needed more NA guild and eventually started Twilight Daze there as a small guild running five man parties.

I enjoyed the server and when we finally got to tier 1 so many players left WvW and entered the Halloween event, forgetting that we earned our tier 1 spot. We held our own for three to four days in tier 1. Once guilds saw we were not serious as a WvW server, they left to other servers. This started a downward spiral.

Towards the very end, paid server transfers were coming and before falling into tier four, around 12 WvW guilds transferred to FA including my own. However, it wasn’t what it was meant to be..

…while I felt happy for a while, I saw the IoJ spirit fall apart. There were different mentalities and attitudes to deal with on FA and the IoJ guilds offered a lot of help to the FA guilds but I saw the FA top guilds and opinions dominate a lot of attempts to move forward. While FA grew stronger, the combination of FA and IoJ guilds and their gameplay never allowed them to legitimately achieve what IoJ managed to achieve alone, to enter into tier 1 and fight a match at that level legitimately and not by random deviation matching at WvW is.

IoJ earned its tier 1 match and I enjoyed every second of it, along with the long nights and months of WvWing and getting to know many there. However it was due to the FA attitude that some former IoJ guilds left FA and went to other servers.

I still feel today that I am one of the few who even as TC player still retained the early, friendly IoJ spirit that I learned in that server. I feel a lot who exist on FA from that server lost their spirit that today its like if those players have become different people.

I would give a lot to see IoJ recover itself, get a handful of new guilds, recover their old guilds as well in an “Enough is Enough” message and knock FA out of the water. I found my home in Tarnished Coast but I would start a second account and pitch in my own way if anyone spearheaded (myself included) a recovery of that server.

It was great while it was good before its full decline into the ground. Next to Tarnished Coast, it was my favorite server, while I can say that out of eight servers I’ve spent time in, FA was by far the worse server experience of my life….both times I was there.

Daze is the only IoJ guild to leave FA (all five of you?). The rest were glad you were gone.

Ryak Deathcarver.2975:

Check out his video from a dude in ICoa on the Blackgate server.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIDEHEripZU

Lol! JQ is like the most bipolar server. One minute they’re double-teaming SoR with BG, next minute they’re double-teaming BG with SoR.

Lots all over the place.

Seigfried.5938:

I feel sad for t2. It is one of the most unbalanced NA matchups

Yup. Not once since this new matchup system has all three T2 servers been in the same match. So TC wins by default due to the lack of a 3rd competitive server.

Everyone is secretly wishing that FA or DB gets some transfers. Any meaningful transfer can only come from T1 though.

Umm, don’t know what the guy above is talking about. ALL the servers the op mentions has over-night coverage.
SBI has one asian guild (they have a recruitment thread right here on this same section) and some oceanics as well, I believe.
CD has 2-3 asian guilds
YB has some oceanics in it

I think any of the servers on your radar would be a good fit. SBI, YB and CD have decent NA as well for you to work with. SoS has barely any NA but their oceanics are stronger than the other three servers.

And I disagree that DB has better nighttime coverage. FA and SoS put up a much better fight during off-peak than DB. Not to mention a large number of them moving to SoR.

Fade.7658:

Did SoR get a recent batch of transfers, or did they simply eat their Wheaties this week?

They got BP and MMAD from Dragonbrand, though both guilds are small and wouldn’t affect the score much.

Aren’t you already in a low tier server?

etrigan.4213:

Unfortunately we only got TC in our new matchup. Tier 1 looks to be stale again with JQ/BG/SoR…two of which are terrible servers filled with terrible guilds.

Obviously JQ is one of them but I’m struggling to figure out which is the 2nd one =(
SoR has great guilds but they only run in map zergs whereas BG has average guilds but at least they don’t map zerg outside of oceanic prime time.

Vespirisa.1497:

Here i was hoping to avoid T1 blobs by transferring here…

You need to transfer MUCH lower to avoid the map zergs. No higher than T5.

Lots of respect for the people that are loyal and committed to Vabbi as well as FoW. You guys have gone through a lot.

Fuzzion.2504:

Dear EU players. JQ wants you.

/hugs

No one wants to transfer to an imploding server.

http://www.twitch.tv/vauxwell/c/2782299

Agg vs EP gvg from their stream. Congrats EP!

Hexxed.8023:

Like Forty Seven Ninjas.6982:

Pretty sure yall died there. AND Yes, 9 of us + pug, but thats 5 of you and 2-3 pugs says your minimap if youre gonna be a supra tool about the whole thing

There is exactly 4 vH., and two pugs in this fight. That green dot way down the map is a person capping Vista. Thats 4 vH + 2 Pugs Versus 9 Pd’s and 1 Pug. If you knew basic math you’d realize that is 6 versus 10. 9 of which are from Your guild. kitten .

It’s 5 vH. The 1st necro in your party is standing to your left (slightly behind) and not in the view of this screenshot. Look at the buffs/conditions on the party bar and the fact that there’s no bright blue dot anywhere else on the mini map and it’s obvious that 5 of you were there, with at least 3 pugs (2 in the screen, at least one behind you who is to your north on the mini map). And that guy to the south.

Lol this guy is from Dragonbrand. My guess is SoR or BG has approached his guild and is offering to pay them. I know SoR has been making their rounds with the oceanic/sea guilds in T2 recently, not too sure whether BG has been doing it as well (though I wouldn’t be surprised if they were).

The state of NA T1 is just plain sad.

Well anet increased the server caps again, which sucks. Inb4 BG and TC get mass transferred… again. Four T1 servers is gonna be real interesting, just like the HoD/SBI/JQ/ET days.

crestpiemangler.7631:

alexjolly.1463:

Didn’t the OP ask which server had the biggest community? Not which was the nicest or how great your server is. Fact since the server uncap Baruch Bay and Desolation are the only Very High pop servers therefore they are the biggest communities.

Not true, there are times in the day when Gandara has a higher population.

He also asked for nice and helpful people.

You’d be silly to think that Desolation, a server that has been in T1/2 since launch, wouldn’t have one of the biggest communities.

On topic, it doesn’t matter what server you pick. All servers in T1-6 will have a fairly large prime time population. Unless you play during off-peak (since you’re in Israel you won’t be, since even 3am it will still be prime time in western Europe), you shouldn’t worry about the server you pick. They are all essentially the same.

Seafarer’s Rest
Desolation
Piken Square
Gandara
Aurora Glade
Gunnar’s Hold
Far Shiverpeaks
Underworld

Take your pick.

Vespirisa.1497:

Unless I’m behind on everything.. what is BP doing in SoR?

That’s not the only DB guild that has members on SoR. KUSO is another one.

Omnitek.3876:

I wish they would open free xfers to lower ranked servers. I tire of t1. Does FC ever bump to a medium serve population anymore?

Bump for a good server.

The problem with opening free transfers to low tier servers is that you will see lots of T8 to T7 transfers or transferring from the losing T8 server to the winning one, which doesn’t really solve anything. 27-30g isn’t that much to transfer to a High population server. Couple days farming Cursed Shore should do it.

Try playing on a non-reset night, if queues really bother you that much.

DevonCarver.5370:

Johje Holan.4607:

I was actually depressed by that response. He said when/if. That means they defintely haven’t started on new maps. And they may never.

Don’t read too much into that type of wording. I’m just hedging because there are a lot of things we don’t talk about until they are close to release. We want to work on new maps and those maps are going to be awesome.

You want to work on new maps? Does this mean you guys haven’t even started? Dear god…

You can still guest over to Blackgate and play pve and pvp but not wvw. Out of all the non-full servers, there is no way to tell which ones have a larger overall population over the other. The majority of them are “very high” so pick and choose which one you want. Some servers have particular non-NA communities though.

If you are looking for a specific timezone:
NA: any
Oceanic: FA, SoR, SoS
Asian: SoR, DB (mainly Chinese communities)

Night Hawk Ix.7360:

REALLY!?? 15 golems and 30+ FA to hit our keep in EB common FA we’re not Russia u know its just little old SoS. Are you that scared of a few ac’s? Also noticed FA using alot of Superior rams on undefended paper towers, I guess in a way it shows us sum respect seeing and you waste all that sup seige lol

Wuv 2 [Beer] btw miss u guys but i kills u if i see u in one of FA’s lems, Fight like MEN FA XD

No one uses normal siege in T1/2. It’s standard practice to only use superiors.

Furiousbeard.7602:

FA has a growing south american population. The guild CL just joined our ranks.

Brazilians don’t speak Spanish.