If there weren’t another tier lined up after this one then how would they keep the new target audience?
If they want to keep grinders then they need a constant grind, not just one new tier to occupy them for a few hours each time a new item is added.
how do you know theres a “NEW” target for the game????. what if ascendeds are there way of setting up for a more logically sustainable method of fufilling the original models purpose?
Clearly this new change is not aimed at the audience which all their previous statements, press releases, interviews, etc were aimed at, because they are now saying the exact opposite of what they were saying before.
thats some what true, assuming ascendeds arent intended to become the new permanent level cap standard. i mean if they are then it pleases both types of players, example: all level 80s will in the future wear ascended armor, but by adding new infusions<possibly aquired through various means but for the purpose of my example ones specific to duneons> then hard core gear grinder pvers will have to constantly chase new infusios by doing this dungeon and thefore also be appeased.
I’m desperate for Arenanet to answer to the following.
After the full set of Ascended items have been drip fed into the game is another tier on the road map?
The answer will decide if I continue to play.
NB: So poor show to see that the controversial news and response to hate posts are being made by anyone other than Mike. Its your baby so take responsibility.
If there weren’t another tier lined up after this one then how would they keep the new target audience?
If they want to keep grinders then they need a constant grind, not just one new tier to occupy them for a few hours each time a new item is added.
how do you know theres a “NEW” target for the game????. what if ascendeds are there way of setting up for a more logically sustainable method of fufilling the original models purpose?
Let’s just hold ArenaNet to their word that they won’t be adding any more tiers in. That it will simply stay:
Basic>Fine>Masterwork>Rare>Exotic>Ascended>Legendary.
And let’s make sure that later on they don’t keep adding bonus stats to Ascended items.
Ascended and Legendary are going to be on the same playing field. Just like Legendary was on the same playing field as Exotics.
Does it make what they are doing right? No. I for one am still hurt about it, but they plan to go forward with this patch it seems.
The only thing I can suggest to make sure things like this don’t happen again:
- Be vocal on the forums (everyday if you want)
- Check things on Guru/Reddit
- Ask questions and try to get some communication
Let’s make sure from here on out the ONLY way we are progressing, is through content and not in gear stats.
i 100000000% agree with this.
Here’s my opinion.
I’d say about 5% of you have actually looked at what’s happening before posting.
Obviously when I heard about it I was upset too.The problem isn’t the quality, they aren’t introducing a treadmill with this, no matter how many people use hyperbole to suggest so.
It’s what exotic should have been, SHOULD HAVE.
The problem is, now there’s two tiers for level 80, and there should be one.
It makes older content obsolete.
It’s easy to fix this, really simple.Make karma and dungeon gear give ascended, let them sell it. Don’t make it super expensive, but make the dungeon and karma vendors sell it.
Also, people should research before they post, if you needed ascended to do the dungeon, it’d be impossible because we aren’t getting the full set right away. The way the dungeon works is every time you complete it you get a stack. You can still do the content.
If they had never released this quality it’d be the same, just for exotics.
same impression i got that it what exotics shoudl have been.
Another thing to consider:
With the current setup, you can get a legendary and assign whatever stat allocation to it you want. Just use a transmutation stone.
By throwing up another tier, you can’t do that unless you lower the weapon’s power. That means that either a) some builds will be favored by having legendaries that complement them perfectly, while others will be disadvantaged or b) it now takes twice as long to get the legendary you really want, because you have to grind twice; once for the stat, the second for the skin.
Way to “fix” things.
i dont see this as an issue if they claim they are updating legendarries to be on par with Ascended gear.
ill say this, dogma and personal philosihpy doesnt need to impeede progress, if the model they started out with wasnt getting them far as they had hoped then its only human of us to want to change our beilifes to “try” to ensure greater sucess.
There are a disturbingly large number of people who think that atm legendaries have better stats than exotics. This thread is worth it just to correct them.
yeah its sad most people dont know at least that simple fact about the game lol.
many people didn’t buy this game to buy this game
they bought this game because they wanted to play WoW
and they assume everything will be just like it was in WoWsoon they might be right :\
i bought this game after i quit wow after 4 years of playing it, i knew what i was getting into but hey, wow didnt make as muchas it did because it was a totally bad game.
There are a disturbingly large number of people who think that atm legendaries have better stats than exotics. This thread is worth it just to correct them.
yeah its sad most people dont know at least that simple fact about the game lol.
This “gap” excuse is pretty lame. Adding stats is not necessary for filling up such a gap. Adding content is what is necessary.
From what i gathered, Ascended armor will replace exotics as the new cap standard, and they will not be releasing new tiers(probably more like adding in extra infusions to combat specific enemy types) and as they see the limited scope of Exotic gear and its overall use in pve they can boost stats on the “new standard” and then never again.
no, they only said they will not be adding new tiers every 3 months , they never said they wont do it ever again!.
well the games been out only about three months, and if taken in context i think he used it simply as a refference point to the concept many people have of this supposed encroaching “gear treadmill”
there is no need to inflate stats, not now, not in 6 months, if they are doing this now, they will have the same motives to do it again in X months
possibly, but who knows? maybe the infaltion of stats was to pull a little more cash shop money out of stat progressioners?
This “gap” excuse is pretty lame. Adding stats is not necessary for filling up such a gap. Adding content is what is necessary.
From what i gathered, Ascended armor will replace exotics as the new cap standard, and they will not be releasing new tiers(probably more like adding in extra infusions to combat specific enemy types) and as they see the limited scope of Exotic gear and its overall use in pve they can boost stats on the “new standard” and then never again.
no, they only said they will not be adding new tiers every 3 months , they never said they wont do it ever again!.
well the games been out only about three months, and if taken in context i think he used it simply as a refference point to the concept many people have of this supposed encroaching “gear treadmill”
This “gap” excuse is pretty lame. Adding stats is not necessary for filling up such a gap. Adding content is what is necessary.
From what i gathered, Ascended armor will replace exotics as the new cap standard, and they will not be releasing new tiers(probably more like adding in extra infusions to combat specific enemy types) and as they see the limited scope of Exotic gear and its overall use in pve they can boost stats on the “new standard” and then never again.
The misconception is in interpreting what ‘gap’ actually means- its a gap in effort/time/finances, not strength.
i thought ascended gear would be like in Gw1, where the armor is called that and it has a special stat specific for fighting a certain enemy type. and i got what i was hoping for excluding the power boost on stats.
ITT People assuming the worst based off a very small trickle of information
Well perhaps they should have put out an informational blog before giving out vague statements to the press first.
It would have curtailed a lot of this angst (or maybe not, depending on what the ascended gear really is).
Or maybe people should take responsibility for their own immature temper tantrums and not jump to conclusions over said vague information. Anet has ALWAYS been vague about their info. Why is this still surprising to people? When will people learn to not flip out over these kinds of announcements?
They say the stats will be SLIGHTLY better and everyone is freaking out? What? We haven’t even seen what the stats on this stuff is yet. Also no old content is being made obsolete by this. It sounds like the gear is just a reward so people who enjoy the dungeon can do it more efficiently as it progresses in difficulty, which I think is a good idea. We shall have to wait and see though I suppose.
“Introducing Ascended items, artifacts of great power that can be improved by a special new type of upgrade called Infusions, which can be found in dungeons. Look for more information about Ascended gear soon”! i see nothing here hat says Ascended>Exotic stop spreading mis information, all of this is pitifull.
“Introducing Ascended items, artifacts of great power that can be improved by a special new type of upgrade called Infusions, which can be found in dungeons. Look for more information about Ascended gear soon”! NOTHING here explicitly states these items are better in way than exotics, if any thing they could be the same stats with different methods of customization<be it cosmetic or Effect(not statisical). To be honest this thread has killed my faith in the GW2 community, i feel as if every last raging person in this thread needs to quit gaming and get therapy and stopi acting like a kittening idiot.
well i know not many people like underwater combat and ive seen threads where arena net has said “Your feed back will be given back to the team”. so my quesion was does any one know of any official news about nder water combat changes.
Has arena net said anything about there future plans( if they have any..) for under water combat?
^ its so easy to claim when it yeilds positive results, but what ever happened to aquireing items via effort and time investment and skill and not blind luck?
okay since release ive sunken about 170 gold into the mystic forge……….its robbed me of countless hours of play and even more gold, what is arena net doing about the rarity of all items that come out of the forge? (Not just precursors). like for example the first instance of this is when i was trying to forge “Death wish” because i feel its an acomplishment to gather matts and forge your own awesome wep. but after at least 17 tries with level80 rare/extoic staffs i got nothing but pearl staffs and rares that had almost no value and i feel so cheated out of my time and effort.
as you can infer by the title, i would like to know i it would be a wise choice to sell the mad king pieces for after halloween or keep it for my alts? im not sure as to how much more valuable they might become after the holiday.
Thanks for the reply
title says it all i like the look of the set and im curious as to weather or not i can wear it outside of wvw in pve.
what should i do with them all sell them or keep them for later?
im doing at level 80 Content. im asking this question from a pvp/soloing surive point of veiw though i do intend to do dungeons with this build.
oops im sorry, this build is mainly for pve/ but i change it slightly to fit wv3. to me this is the only elementalist build where i dont instantly die
i have a question, im currently running a boon build and im doing great i rarley die and deal great dmg. the problem is that im in most percision and power gear, im trying to make the transition to power, toughness and vitality gear.
so my question is could it do my dmg and survival more benefit to just use runes for Defense or?, to switch and use runes for power/percis??
(edited by Deth.4109)
I ove and agreewith absolutley all of this entire list.
i hope a dev responds to this
^ yeah i have a freind who loved guild wars 1 but most people i knew, especially the ones that played wow said it sucked
You’ll also be disappointed on the forums. They are censoring Nazis here. Expect any thread that isn’t positive for ANet to be closed shortly after due to “running it’s course,” or “there are other threads of this type.”
Bro like almost all of those threads become flame wars that dont even stay on topic.
This generation of “getting something for nothing” is something new. I’m not old but I’m still from the generation that was teached that we have to work to accomplish, we have to strive to prosper.
This attitude of “getting it for free” is very weird and it sound very dangerous as well. So what you basically are going to do nothing in your life and expect to get the same rewards as ppl who bust their kitten off?
I can honestly say that I’m not busting my kitten off in life but doing so I am fully aware and fully agree on that when I’m making the choice to not bust my kitten of I am not entitled the same rewards as people who are working as crazy to reach their goals.
And that is how it should be. You work your kitten off you get rewarded, if you don’t then you have made your choice and won’t get the same rewards thats just how it is, its the basic nature law, ppl who are providers are more important then ppl who leech.
I worry that your attitude of gaming reflect your world opinions. If you don’t believe that you should work hard to get better at a game then how can I believe that you actually are trying to accomplish anything at all with your life?
this made me laugh im sorry, but #1 why are you worrying about what im doing in my life based off my opinion of video games??? it says your either self righteous or just obsessive. #2 theres and important destinction to make here, in this GAME<< you are at liberty to play the way you wish and every one is on eqaul footing. in real LIFE your kinda arent at liberty to live how you would like, there are benefical and and unbenefical choices, smart ones and deadly ones. in real LIFE every one is not truely equal so you must progress progress progress but games were and are meant to be an escape from that thats the point im trying to make.
being new to something and then learning the ropes is totally different from progression when you all ready know the ropes and are chasing a new goal. "Evolving your understanding is not the same is Evolving your streangth, when you win a championship the only thing left to do is defend your title you cant “progress” any further you must simply face new challenges as they appear in your plataeu and thats guild wars 2s philosiphy same as in guild wars 1 no gear treadmill just new content and once you reach your personal plateau you are now at liberty to do with it what you like.
The things is if you already knwo the ropes then if you are talking about competitive games its done. The reason MoBas, Starcraft and WoW PvP is still going strong is because they all are evolving. Players find new ways to manipulate the mechanics and new crazy ways to handle their characters.
And I don’t agree “with defending is the only thing left” no it’s not because if you are talking about for example Boxing.. lets take that there will come a champion that are hungrier, younger and maybe want to win more then you. How will you as a older champion beat him:
1.) ofc using your longer experience against him, but if your opponent are stronger, faster and hungrier then you what do you do:
2.) You look at what he does when fighting his opponents, what stance is he using? When does he jab? When does he go for the KO? And what is likely that he will do against you? What is your weaknesses that he that is stronger, and faster and more hungry will try to use against you?
You evolve your game, the only way to keep on winning is to evolve, when you are too old and too tired and can’t evolve anymore that’s when you will lose your title unless we are talking about random occuring things like, dehydration or lack of sleep.
The bottom line is as long as you keep evolving you will do great things. Look at musicians you got oldies like BB King, 87 year old man and still rocks the sock off everything.
Yes he has the rare gift of having talent but so does everyone who are great at something. If you don’t have “talent which makes things easier for you to learn” then you have the talent to take a bigger beating then everyone else to achieve your goals. If you are hungrier then everyone else then you still have that talent.
Now compare BB King, Steve Vai and whatever you want against a musician who does a great album that sells big and then just fall to obscurity. Is this just random? No, ofc you can be unlucky and get signed to a scumbag record studio but the reason BB King still is so great after playing for kitten 87 years is because he still are evolving his way to play, always finding new ways to play better.
People who want something very much and works much harder then everyone else often are rewarded for it, not everyone (because you need luck as well in this world) but most are.A champ that “only defends his title” won’t be a champ for long dude because if you have that attituted someone will beat the crap out of you. The minute the glow in your eyes fades then you are done.
The moment you can’t run after the antelope and kill it with a spear anymore then you are done and someone new will replace you, someone that is hungrier and want it more then you.If everything is handed down to you for free then you will never get challenged and thigns would be boring very quickly. Think of it like this; If I gave you 100 million euros tomorrow for free how long before you got bored? Ofc you would travel around the world like 10 times, buy cars, houses, party whatever but sooner or later you would get bored because nothing challenged you anymore.
We humans need challenges and one of the challenges is that 0.0000001% of all ppl (fake stats) are economical independant.
All the others of us are chasing a dream of someday be able to support ourselves and our families without having to worry about the bills in the end of the month. We don’t have to be rich but we want this.When we have this we want our children to have it, then we want our grandchildren to have it, life is a constant struggle and trust me without that struggle (yes this is non poverty fortunate struggle) we would be bored and then depressed and prob ended up killing ourselves by alcohol or heavier drugs sooner or later just to feel anything at all.
what you described is not progression its only change, if i every time i do the same thing and my opponent learns to combat me shifting what im doing is not progress at all its literally re-tooling im not getting any better for it, sure ill be better off but ive improved very little if at all. infact if ive made any improvment its only in becoming used to my new method of play.
funny that u used mario 64 as a argument xD you do understand that every game that can be turned into a competitive thing has a competitive following right? literrary ANY GAME.
That’s how hardcore ppl is and that’s how much ppl enjoy winning and that is how much ppl like watching other ppl who like to win and be the best and that is the reason that games is fun.PvP = defeating other players
PvE = defeating the game then maybe compete against others (find all achievements, solve all puzzles, get all costumes, get all secret weapons, time limit etc etc)
Games that is easy mode from the start and automatically hands you the “I win button” = not fun and won’t last very long
Why do you think ppl watches sports? Because they like the game, yes ofc they like the game but what is the other reason…?? Because they like when their team, the team they are rooting for beats every other kittening team in the league! Because then the supporters get the satisfactionly feeling of winning!
thats the good part about this game theres no win lose button, you have a choice of either playing to compete with your self or others( for example killing the hardest bosses in this game with out dying once, or going into spvp/wvwvw and executing a flawless victory over your foes.) or you can go casual and play casually with only fun and no sport in mind, so i ask you where does your complaint even stand here?
can you get a higher score in monopoly?, can you progress at tick tac toe? can you play a game like metal gear solid 4 or any mario 64 and worry about higher score?. or what about basket ball or football do you play to win or just ot see a higher number on the score board each time? these are vidoe game and real life examples of games that are about loving the simple playing of them rather than your imaginarry carrot progression.
Yes, you can get a “higher score” in monopoly. The first time you play it you will suck. You will make the wrong plays, buy the wrong streets, invest your money at the wrong times of the games.
The more you play the game the better you will become at it and the better you become the better plays you will do each time you play the game and that is the progression.When you have played enough you will prob be better then your parents and lay waste to them. Punish them through the whole game, buying everything exactly as you should, outsmart them and get more money then them and then you will continue to rub it in their faces and laughing at them.
Mario 64 there is ongoing world high scores where you have I think its 3 best in the world players who compete at getting all stars the fastest by manipulating the game mechanics. It have a huge stream following. They try to beat each others scores all the time.
If you don’t want to win at football or whatever real sport then I don’t know why you would be playing them. Ofc I also play on summers with friends “for fun” but you still want to win badly when playing and you will do everything you can to win the game except ofc hurting someone but you get the point.
Talking about MGS or Hitman which have similar mechanics ofc you try to get better. First time you will alarm everything and die. After that you will start to study the game more. What should I do here? What is the patrol routines? Can I get away with this or will I get discovered? The more you play Hitman or MGS the better you will become at making huge plays.
Games is all about progession, if you are at the same level of skill after 3+ hours as you were when you picked up the game the first time then the game is a terrible game. Challenges is what makes games funny, esp against other players where a lot of mindgaming and outsmarting/outthinking/better reaction is involved. Why do you think ppl like watching MoBA or Starcraft tournaments? Because that’s what happens in those games.
If you’ve played DnD for 3 years do you really believe you will still be as bad as it as you were the first time? No you won’t your imagination have evolved and your understanding of the rules, what is possible, how to make good and big plays have evolved.
The first day at your new job you might be a little unsure about your responsibilities but after 2 weeks you will hopefully feel safe there, you understand the rules, you have evolved and your skills have evolved.
Everything in life is about evolving your skills and games is no different. What we like as humans is to get better to evolve ourselves, if we can’t find what we do evolving we won’t continue doing it for a very long time. Most ppl don’t work at MC Donalds from 18 until 65 because as humans we need constant new challenges to feel good about ourselves
being new to something and then learning the ropes is totally different from progression when you all ready know the ropes and are chasing a new goal. "Evolving your understanding is not the same is Evolving your streangth, when you win a championship the only thing left to do is defend your title you cant “progress” any further you must simply face new challenges as they appear in your plataeu and thats guild wars 2s philosiphy same as in guild wars 1 no gear treadmill just new content and once you reach your personal plateau you are now at liberty to do with it what you like.
I wonder exactly what Deth wonders, whats with the gaming community these days? When did people stop playing games to have fun and when did people start playing games to have a second job?
GW2 takes us back to how games were done when they were indeed good and fun without a carrot around every corner.
This game lets you focus on what you like, grinding new gear, RvRing, BGing, Crafting, farming or you name it. For me its great, there are no money sinks unless I really want legendaries, so I can grind a bit and focus on alt when I want. Just like it is with BGs, even if I slack for a week or two I wont fall behind because the gear is just looks, the way it should be, BGs are about having fun, thats the main point with the whole gaming industry. Something many gaming companies have forgotten about, A-net not being one of those.
You are aware of that old school games also had progression right? Sure there was no internet and there was no “gear treadmill” but what there was, was a high score. This high score system encouraged players to get better at the game they were playing. That you had 3 extra lives encouraged you to use less and less lives each time you were playing the game.
: Games have always had some sort of “progression” or “goals” but a lot of people today have their rose tinted glasses on and talk about “when did games stop being fun” because I can’t even begin to fathom how much money I have spent on a Arcade machine (Pinball or a fighting game) wasting both my childhood and my money to beat the last boss on my last life, fail and have to put in more money to contine playing.
Games: Have always been about getting better, even board games has this you want to win you want to beat your opponents that is what makes games fun. If you remove the competitive part of any game then that game would be boring.
Oh yea… yathzee would be really fun if you couldnt beat your opponents… no wait it wouldn’t. I don’t mean this as a paralell to the GW 2 discussion but talking about “just having fun” games have NEVER been about “just having fun” NEVER.
can you get a higher score in monopoly?, can you progress at tick tac toe? can you play a game like metal gear solid 4 or any mario 64 and worry about higher score?. or what about basket ball or football do you play to win or just ot see a higher number on the score board each time? these are vidoe game and real life examples of games that are about loving the simple playing of them rather than your imaginarry carrot progression.
alot of players seem to be too lazy to do anything but zerg in MOST mmos with large pvp. that being said its built around that mentality of gaining from being in a a group of some kind
They need a tredmill, a big majority wants it, and most single player games goes towards it
do you have Graphs?, charts stats percents?? what proof do you have that a majority wants the treadmil beyond random forum opinions and assuming many share your opinion?
Hey guys news flash raids in games like WOW are nothing more than zergs where you fight roboticly scripted npcs. if you have ever played as a Dps then you know what i mean. move out of fire A stand in random boss generated buff B continue spamming highest dmg move for the enitre fight, pop trinket rince repeat there you go “Organized zerg”.
Sadly Op you make some very good points. And i agree with all of them. I haven’t done WvW since i really can’t afford to die 20 billion times thanks anet for your lousy economy and your DR. I haven’t played since i farmed enough mats to make a zerker set. I wanted to farm more DE’s to grab more ectos but its not really working anymore in Orr. I made more money farming potent bloods.
My biggest complaints have to be
1.) Exp modes – lack of the holy trinity is felt here
2.) Economy – again i am going to guess the reason income does not scale up from 1 – 80 is because gems can be bought with gold so the more gold you have the less real money you need to use. And again the DR system discourages botting but it also discourages other players.3.) End Game – the game doesn’t need raids but it needs something De are like dailies in other games but they give out far less rewards again risk!= rewards. (not equals) or time put in != rewards. Like the OP said once you get your exotic gear, there’s no point in doing dungeons.
I played WoW from the start of BC til around dec 2011. Quit WoW for tortanic. I quit tortanic around June july. I wanted something different not a wow clone. This game looked like it was what i was looking for until i hit 80 that is. The fixes for the game have been mostly band aids and ignores the major issues.
the point in doing dungeons is simply to aquire the sets from them, there is no reason to play this game or any other beyond simply wanting to. im seriously questioning gamers mentality these days with Games purpose=rewards. like seriously does EVERY game need a tredmill to be good or only mmos???
OP just give it up, I’ve also considered writing my own “exit review” but what is the point? You’ve summed up a large majority of my own feelings and your experience mimics my own.
Yes it is my own fault for having such high expectations and seeing the massive potential the game had. I invested every minute I could for each beta weekend and stress test and like your friend I screamed “GW2 will rule” to anyone who bothered to listen. But everything post-launch has been too much for me, too much Jeckyl and Hyde from ArenaNet.
I’m content to leave the future of the game to the “casuals” and “it’s good enough’s” but it does make me sad that the community looks down on anyone who applies some critical thinking to the current incarnation of the game and finds certain aspects lacking.
Good luck to you getting your gaming kicks, it’s back to some single player action and possibly back to The Secret World for me.
i love how people like you with a bone to pic come to the forums and assume only your ideas and opinion was applied with critical thought. people are well aware of what the game is lacking but we are also aware that MMOs are games that must evolve into the massive cash cows they have the potential to be, but instead of coming here saying “the sky is falling so im leaving” we accept it will take time to change.
I agree with OP on every point
Ive had people stop playing becouse they cant tank, which is their favorite way of playing. Theres no organization and many dungeons are about dying and running back..
Holy trinity is a much better mechanic.WvW on my server has done exactly as you said, people flocked to it, and now its totally useless, from best server in EU during daytime to 6-7th.
And the PvE stuff in WVW, also true.And i also agree with Character and Gear progression
i strongly disagree with the holy trinity after playing mmos for nearly 5 years now, and besides arena net is not catering towards people who want to play the trinity way so your freinds who quit obviously did not know what they were getting into before buying this game.
id say gladiatorial pits placed at random all over tyria to allow players to go and scrap it out would be best as opposed to all out war.
@Gauradan
“You don’t have to do anything in WoW either. There’s a ton of other things you can do other than farming for gear or doing dailies. In Guild Wars 2, you have to grind if you want something; same is the case with WoW. I don’t see the difference.”I don’t? Say I wanna do arena – can’t without BG gear, say I wanna gank – again I sort of need decent gear or else I’ll die to ppl in arena gear, say I wanna raid – I can’t if I don’t have the HC gear, say I wanna do HC raids – I can’t unless I join a semi-hardcore guild where I’ll have to keep up with others’ gear and put up with Guild Masters who demand that I cancel my night outs with friends because “how dare I agree to go out on a Wednesday evening WHEN WE ALWAYS HAVE RAIDS THEN!!!?!”… (happened more than a few times).
If you skip multiple daily dungeons/bgs on wow you’re already disadvantaged and you won’t even be invited for a raid without certain gear level.
On GW2 I can do dungeons with blue gear, I can do them with green gear, I can do tham in any gear. It might make it harder but if I know when to dodge and how to combo I’ll still do better than a fully exotic player who doesn’t know what he’s doing.
On GW2 I can do WvWvW with my guild at any level, I will always be useful to them and if I can’t attend a WvWvW raid, no biggie.
So no, sorry but I don’t see your point.
i got booted out of the wow raiding/pvp guild called Civilian once because i didnt play every time we had an Rbg planned so i can symapthize, people really dont seem to understand that guild wars 2s “end game” is extremely liberating and fair as opposed to others.
there are no factions bro, so if they were open world pvp servers whos the enemy?? youd just be killing random people who are completley oblivious to your intention. like for example, doing a DE and just killing the people your working with that realy doesnt sound fun.
i played alot of skyrim, so im all fore mystical legendary armor sets, as long as the peices come from interesting and cool sources im totally for that.
Dynamic events meaning you will never know exactly when one is going on, they are hardly static in comparison to WoWs quest, where you start the quest and then finish and BAM its like it never happened. at least in guild wars 2 when you complete certain events theres an aftermath, the best example i have of this is when you help the little norn boy in the 1-15 zone and when he builds the guard statues they stay there.
i never run itno any of the bugs i see most people complaining about on these forums. so i feel like guild wars 2 is a highly polished game.