Guild Wars 2

I have to say that out of ALL of the elite specs and trait lines and skills in this entire game Herald has to be some of the most well designed and creative I have seen. the synergy with other trait lines and skills the class has is nearly perfect. I deeply enjoyed watching and am SUPER DUPER HYPED. who else is feeling the love for the Herlad???

Hi fellow guards i have spent the last few days testing Revenant and finding different builds. currently I have found one to much success, i have beaten most classes and specs with this build and am doing well in team fights. I’m very interested in testing this build vs a mediguard so any one interested pm in game.

how does this fare in team fights.

i love this. excellent gameplay. this is very similar to what i am using.

i have had no issues destroying condi builds using my build. earlier i roasted a necromancer in Mallyx with out coming close to dying at all.

so i have had alot of success with Shiro/Mallyx, with mace axe and staff. ill post screen shots of the build so that you guys can try it. its mainly condie focused with some dmg and when in demon stance you are a killing machine. personally i think this build is a close to viable as a beta revenant can come in pvp.

[UPDATE] I have participated in atleast 8 ranked matches today and dueled several classes. I won the majority of duels against Necromancers,Guardians,Thieves,Engineers and Rangers. In ranked I was able to burst foes, crowd control and stomp almost with out problems. the biggest weakness of this build is that revs have no skills to avoid being focused hard other than Shiro evade and you can be chain ccd quite hard be determined teams otherwise I felt quite strong.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/revenant/Revenant-Changes/first just gonna leave this here. there seem to be alot of myths about Revenants dmg and traits. FYI since we are still beta and likely no where near release this is subject to dramatic change in the near future.

Roy Cronacher.1576:

Kidel.2057:

Roy Cronacher.1576:

=(

Hopefully perception will be a bit different next iteration.

Don’t be sad, we know you’re putting effort into this.

I can totally see DPS Revenant being a thing, even if theoretical dps is still way lower then Warrior/Guardian/Elementalist.

The problem is that Revenant is not going to have much more survivability. It’s going to be kill before getting killed.

Tank Revenant won’t be possible if things don’t change.

Good thing that things can change.

Roy, I appreciate what you do but i am BEGGING YOU, please seriously consider reworking Mallyx and Jalis. presently it seems like Revenant doesn’t possess any real passive benefits for these two Legends and because we are limited to only 3 utility skills per legend it seems as though we are unable to customize our set up based upon our needs or our team mates needs. Jalis especially seems to be lacking in boons or effects that mitigate damage reliably, if you
get focused there really don’t seem to be many mechanics that can stop you from getting steam rolled.

Zev.3407:

Ragion.2831:

Its cuz its new, we all like new and shiny things. I know im going to play Rev but its going to be a second main. First being Necro, too much history (and waypoints) for me to just dump the class and switch

for some yes for others No.

I’ve always felt something missing from all the classes i’ve played, Rev fills that void

Rev just seems like the class i always wanted to be in a game. gameplay and look wise

100 percent agree

Naurgalen.2374:

Guizao.4167:

The beginning of your statement is ambiguous; I can know the CDs of my teammates right after they cast something, because I have in mind how long an specific ability takes to recharge. Thinking about every profession in game there are situations where you have to use your healing abilities with you want to stay alive (almost every), bringing it to guardians, ‘Smite’ recharges in 16s if meditation’s trait is equipped and it’s a viable option to use whenever it’s possible, which means the shout elite is welcome here; Thinking of blink, in team fights if a shatter mesmer can’t get away of a thief or any sneaky profession with good burst they’re pretty sure dead, even more dead if they have to escape from a thief + x profession, which means the elite shout is welcome here.
The shout elite will reduce the recharge of the next skill, and not the current one your allies used.

The thing is that if you are babysitting others so carefully as to know all their cds and calculate perfectly when to ult to maximize their most benefical skills in the middle of a fight without teamspeak or some high coordination with friends…. 1) You have some god-like abilitys or 2) You arent really in the middle of the battle / active helping

Thats not true. I always find perfect time to use such abilities by paying attention to how my team is fighting and doing my best to add to their efforts.

ive been hoping arena net would address the terrible dreadlock situation in the game.

My future actual Revenant and my present beta Revenant.

hope you get an answer

oops sorry misunderstood the nature of the issue.

what if you used a skill that when activated for 5 seconds every condition used on you is nullified and stored in one single spell you can activate and when you do all conditions collected during that period can be put onto any target. like for example buff goes up, burning goes up burning vanishes and is stored to be used against the enemy. like mimic on mesmers but for condies.

honestly i never find chill that impactful especially in team fights. also it seems most people arguing about rev dmg sucking hasn’t looked at the dmg buffs nearly every rev weapon skill is getting.

Buran.3796:

Silhouette.5631:

So I’m hoping you all saw the livestream featuring the Shiro moveset for revenant. Lets go over some basic points

-High mobility

-Life leech instead of heal

-Lots of unblockable attacks

-Blocks on their Offhand -sword-

Yeah its like they are our evil nemesis from a twisted alternate dimension. Also can we trade our shield for that sword?

Also, What do you think the best way to fight these guys is gonna be because I forsee HORDES of them in pvp

Seems like a poor’s man Warrior if you ask me: a lot less options.

I highly doubt about their popularity: only found a single Revenant in PvP along the beta. Hell, is not supposed that condi Guardians are OP? I’m just doing fine playing zerk.

Warriors think Guardians are a poor mans Warrior :/

Any ETA on the next time i can play my new main? im dying of Revenant thirst right now. any one else feeling the hype infect them?

the boon on heal mechanic plus the condi convert on elite skills seems like it would be hugely beneficial to the Revenant. every 40 seconds you can convert condis to boons and every time you heal you get a random boon. since revs can heal twice this seems to posses real synergy.

Ele is fine as is. Ele doesn’t need weapon swap because attunements give you 20 skills a opposed to just 10. utility swap is not enough in the case of the rev because if your dps skills are on cd you are literally a sitting duck. This choice makes alot of sense because rather than reinvent the wheel they might as well go with the simplest and easiest to balance of all choices.

whole heartedly agree our down skills seem to lack synergy with each other or have any real use other than making the downed revenant look pathetic.

this is hugely broken i got one shotted on mky ele with over 2k toughness and 24kh hp with all my boons up. thats unacceptable damage.

Pazu.8320:

All the celes are running earth, but I agree that fire has great potential. I actually ran the exact build you linked with cele amulet and it was quite effective. Haven’t had time to play with it much, but the trait spread is strong.

yeah the might stacking is intense you can get massive crits in combat from just burning speed. in this build i feel over all more effective. with cele and earth traits i still got blasted by thieves and mesmers, with this build most of them get reckt.

i tried a fresh link

http://intothemists.com/guides/5765-barbarian_wizard_build

its working for me….. how do i fix it?

I have been palying with different runes and amulets since the patch and ive come up with a build i think looks good in most situations. id love suggestions or feedback as to how i might improve this build. http://intothemists.com/guides/5765-barbarian_wizard_build

Hey guys, since the patch droped all the build sites seem out of date. I would love to share my new build idea with the PVP community but it seem there is no where i can turn to accurately reflect my concept. anyone know of any up to GW2 build sites

i wish i had screen shotted it but on my ele i got 44 stacks of burning as a condi build. over like 14k tics

just tried soldiers with fire water arcane…….. i love it

ive been split between cele and marauder my self.

post patch im trying some new builds but im not quite sure what amulet or rune has the best synergy any advice?

Nihlus.9724:

Castaliea.3156:

Everyone is kittened because ANET literally just admitted to caring substantially more for new players than any current or former players.

Your logic doesn’t follow. The expansion was going to cost some amount of money. The amount of money has been revealed to be $50. Period. They could have just as easily not included the core game and the expansion still would have been $50.

Giving the core game away with HoT does not mean that they care more about new players than established players. It just means that they want to make it as easy as possible for new players to start playing. (In fact, that’s something we as established players should want too. Who wants to play an empty MMO?)

Pricing the game at $50 does not mean that they don’t value established players. It just means that $50 is the price Anet thinks is reasonable for the expansion.

Again, if you think $50 is too much for the expansion, that’s fine. But if you think Anet owes you more or a cheaper price for being a veteran player, then you’re just being entitled. And if you think new players shouldn’t get the almost three-year-old core game along with the expansion, then you’re just being selfish as that idea is self-destructive to GW2. It benefits us as much as Anet to have a large player base.

skumbagnick.6098:

Conncept.7638:

I’d be okay with 40 honestly, at least if the expansion is big enough.

Fifty bucks on the other hand is the price of a full game, and if they want to charge that, it should be because HoT adds as much content to the game as it launched with, something we all know isn’t going to happen.

lol HoT has literally no content its worth at most 10$ i beta tested that kitten its kittening boring.

this has to be the DUMBEST thing I have heard all night.

CureForLiving.5360:

Wait until the expansion drops, read some reviews etc. then decide. It seems a lot of people are jumping to conclusions.

Trajan.4953:

Wow all this salt.

$50 is fine for an expansion at release, all you cheaper people can wait two years till it goes on sale.

I’m wondering if any of the naysayers have ever played an MMO before, or dealt with DLC.

Calm down.

Nihlus.9724:

I don’t understand all the negativity in this thread.

Let me start off by saying that it is perfectly within your right to think that the expansion is overpriced. Anyone criticizing anyone else for that belief is being a jerk. It is a perfectly reasonable plan to either not buy HoT due to the price or to wait for a price drop before buying it.

However, what is not reasonable is to assume you are entitled to anything that is not on the tin. The expansion is $50. Period. You are not entitled to any kind of discount, bonus, or second GW2 key just because the expansion comes with the core game for new members. You are not entitled to anything from HoT just because you’re an established GW2 player. The only thing you are entitled to are the things that are listed for the price currently listed. If you don’t think they’re a good value, then don’t buy them. Or wait until the price is lowered to the point where you feel it’s a good value. I personally will be playing HoT day one.

Also, consider World of Warcraft. Warlords of Draenor costs $49.99 too, and that has subscription fees ontop of that. WoW also grants you all the previous expansions if you buy the latest. But it used to not always be that way. So anytime a new player would come along, they’d have to buy the core game and several expansions just to get caught up. It was ridiculous. Anet including the core game with the expansion is a kindness and convenience to new players, and it makes smart business sense. It is not an excuse to try and wheel and deal a lower price for yourself.

i love you.

Rylen.2147:

I would gladly pay $50 if the core game was removed from the purchase

the core game is not part of the purchase and you are helping spread misinformation. please sir I implore you to use your reading comprehension skills and ability to understand contextual clues its not quite for people to be parroting something about the game that is simply not true and creating discord within the community.

Regina Buenaobra.6193:

To clarify: $50 is the price of the expansion. We included the core game as a free bonus to make it easier for new players to get into it.

Laraley.7695:

Hitman.5829:

Laraley.7695:

What? Are you trolling?

Im confused. The descriptions says that if you buy HoT it comes with the core game + the expansion. That means that if I install Gw2 on a new computer then I will be able to get 2 accounts right?

The old account and the new account?

Can someone please give information or links? thanks

I’m pretty sure you’re trolling, but in case someone actually wants to know this:

If you’re an existing player, you’re not getting the vanilla game, only the xpack. The core game is added for free for new players, simple.

MoonStoneX.9245:

Deth.4109:

MoonStoneX.9245:

Deth.4109:

CMM.6712:

bigbobpataki.4796:

Fermi.2409:

MoonStoneX.9245:

Lil Puppy.5216:

I just hope there’s an expansion price for people who already OWN the game, why they had a popup in-game for players who already have the game is beyond me, that one should have shown the expansion price (without the price for the full game since I already own it). This is just an expansion, like Eye of the North, EoTN didn’t include the base game, Factions did but it also had 2 character slots and 2 new professions. HoT is not that type of expansion, it’s a simple content expansion that simply adds the areas and a lot of features we had in gw1 maguuma area… I would have prepurchased at $30 but at $50 I’d rather get a full game and wait on HoT until it was on sale.

At this price I’ll be getting Fallout4 instead of an expansion.

$49.99 is the Price of just the Expansion. The Core Game is an extra bonus for new players and they get it for free. This was already verified by Anets Twitter.

It’s $50 for the game+expansion, or just the expansion of you paid for the game, no matter how you try to spin it. Basically, you get less for more if you’re a loyal customer. It’s a ripoff based on that alone.

So comparing veterans to newcomers, veterans paid $50 3 years earlier than new comers and thus had access to 3 years of gameplay that the newcomers missed out on. You paid $50 at launch for the base game and had access ever since. You will even have a leg up on them forever for anniversary stuff. What else do you want?

Minimum? A character slot to try the new profession.

and you’re some how entitled to those things?

Compared to how GW1 Expansions worked asking for just a ONE Free Character Slot isn’t asking much at all and one would think would be standard.

on what grounds would that be standard? if you been playing since pre launch like me you have had three years to hit maximum character slots on your account either through grinding gold for gems or just paying the 10 bucks it cost again i ask on what grounds is any current player entitled to extra character slots?

Because ever Guild Wars 1 Expansion gave you 2 Free Character Slot. 1 for each new class it added. You got every Character Slot? Good for you I don’t.

firstly gw1 was a 10 year old game and is not gw2. secondly that’s nobody’s fault but your own. they don’t owe you more character slots than you have earned already or paid for.

MoonStoneX.9245:

Deth.4109:

CMM.6712:

bigbobpataki.4796:

Fermi.2409:

MoonStoneX.9245:

Lil Puppy.5216:

I just hope there’s an expansion price for people who already OWN the game, why they had a popup in-game for players who already have the game is beyond me, that one should have shown the expansion price (without the price for the full game since I already own it). This is just an expansion, like Eye of the North, EoTN didn’t include the base game, Factions did but it also had 2 character slots and 2 new professions. HoT is not that type of expansion, it’s a simple content expansion that simply adds the areas and a lot of features we had in gw1 maguuma area… I would have prepurchased at $30 but at $50 I’d rather get a full game and wait on HoT until it was on sale.

At this price I’ll be getting Fallout4 instead of an expansion.

$49.99 is the Price of just the Expansion. The Core Game is an extra bonus for new players and they get it for free. This was already verified by Anets Twitter.

It’s $50 for the game+expansion, or just the expansion of you paid for the game, no matter how you try to spin it. Basically, you get less for more if you’re a loyal customer. It’s a ripoff based on that alone.

So comparing veterans to newcomers, veterans paid $50 3 years earlier than new comers and thus had access to 3 years of gameplay that the newcomers missed out on. You paid $50 at launch for the base game and had access ever since. You will even have a leg up on them forever for anniversary stuff. What else do you want?

Minimum? A character slot to try the new profession.

and you’re some how entitled to those things?

Compared to how GW1 Expansions worked asking for just a ONE Free Character Slot isn’t asking much at all and one would think would be standard.

on what grounds would that be standard? if you been playing since pre launch like me you have had three years to hit maximum character slots on your account either through grinding gold for gems or just paying the 10 bucks it cost again i ask on what grounds is any current player entitled to extra character slots?

CMM.6712:

bigbobpataki.4796:

Fermi.2409:

MoonStoneX.9245:

Lil Puppy.5216:

I just hope there’s an expansion price for people who already OWN the game, why they had a popup in-game for players who already have the game is beyond me, that one should have shown the expansion price (without the price for the full game since I already own it). This is just an expansion, like Eye of the North, EoTN didn’t include the base game, Factions did but it also had 2 character slots and 2 new professions. HoT is not that type of expansion, it’s a simple content expansion that simply adds the areas and a lot of features we had in gw1 maguuma area… I would have prepurchased at $30 but at $50 I’d rather get a full game and wait on HoT until it was on sale.

At this price I’ll be getting Fallout4 instead of an expansion.

$49.99 is the Price of just the Expansion. The Core Game is an extra bonus for new players and they get it for free. This was already verified by Anets Twitter.

It’s $50 for the game+expansion, or just the expansion of you paid for the game, no matter how you try to spin it. Basically, you get less for more if you’re a loyal customer. It’s a ripoff based on that alone.

So comparing veterans to newcomers, veterans paid $50 3 years earlier than new comers and thus had access to 3 years of gameplay that the newcomers missed out on. You paid $50 at launch for the base game and had access ever since. You will even have a leg up on them forever for anniversary stuff. What else do you want?

Minimum? A character slot to try the new profession.

and you’re some how entitled to those things?

chemiclord.3978:

$50 is pretty much industry standard for an expansion pack. The current expansion including “previous versions” is ALSO pretty much the industry standard.

You deserve the nothing you think you got.

Altosk.8492:

When you pre order HoT you are NOT buying the core game as well. You are paying for all of the content that come with the expansion. The core game itself is absolutely FREE with this purchase and is just a added bonus for those who don’t already have the game. If you already own the game then you now have a spare account that you can use for alts(which is a good deal if you don’t want to pay for more character slots), give it to a friend or try out the EU servers if you NA only(reverse if your EU only). The expansion is not in any way over priced for the amount of content that is being supplied with it along with all of the living story updates that will come with it in time. The cost of the Original Guild Wars game $50. Every expansion after that was also $50. Granted those games were stand alone, Guild Wars 2 is not. It is a unique game that is still building is world and story which is why the core game itself is coming with the expansion. The amount of content that is being supplied in the expansion is well worth $50 especially on a game that DOESN’T require a monthly sub.

tl;dr Buy the expansion.

EDIT: Apparently you code that you are supplied with acts as either a HoT upgrade or a new account with HoT. You don’t get a second account but this is still a good deal.

Shifu.4321:

Isn’t $40-$50 the standard price for an MMO xpac? I’m kinda confused since I paid $60 for WoW expacs and the upcoming FFXIV xpac is $40 (not counting the monthly fees).

Can anybody point me to a $20 expac? I can’t seem to find one.

played WOW for 5 years and many other games. gw2 isnt like a console title MMO games like Gw2 tend have expansion prices between 40-50 bucks this is standard business practice.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. dude since when can a person buy a whole expansion pack with ingame play? you are essentially asking them to give you the expansion for free because incase you forgot we don’t pay sub fees.

So i absolutely love these human god themed outfits and I am interested in seeing what other people who like them have to say, also FEM THOR!!!!

for those saying cultural armor can only be worn by the only race it was designed for i present to you the original flame kissed armor skin