Guild Wars 2

Rob.7624:

And don’t think that its because I’m sore because we lost to Kaineng. I just have now A LOT of money riding on Kaineng not passing tier 4.

Please don’t make me a very sad poor lil Birdie.
;_;

Yep, goal is DEFINITELY T3 now. MUAhaha.

JudgeD.5673:

Does this mean I’m going to get dogpiled by AoD? Seems like I’ve been there before…
Oh well, at least I know Morningstar’s bunch….

Nah, if DR doesn’t finish strong, they’re headed down to T6. Right now, it’s pretty close, but T5 looks to be Ebay/Kain/BP.

Wow. Who moved???

Neeho.3859:

Nothing but class.

I know, right? It’s unfortunate that, although we got some great folks transferring in, some drama magnets made it in as well. What can you do, though.

Niim.9260:

I am sure this time it is different, but I ask you how many of your alliance actually care about the people that were home to the server before you all parachuted in, and how a slow crawl back to the bottom might impact them?

As one of those original Kain folks you refer to here, I can tell you that NEO and WM have been excellent stewards – respectful, willing to teach, and from my personal standpoint, very welcome additions.

If we end up in a slow crawl back to the bottom… Well, meh, been there before and it was fun then too.

MajorLag.9518:

De, Re, FBA are doing their job during the day.

Fixt.

And for the record, WM and SoS obviously have a huge impact as well. Bad troll iz bad.

So, getting a bit worried this matchup might not happen! Is DR trying to drop a tier? Finish strong, guys!

Master Rob AND PvE???? This thread has been completely derailed now. xD

StormWolf.7645:

JudgeD.5673:

Dhampyr, ye hath been having Way Too Much Fun. I hereby sentence you to the farthest reaches of the Northern Shiverpeaks, where mayhap thy Fun shall be be cooled and Master Rob shall be thy jailor.

There’s a point where your cruelty is just going too far man…know when to stop!

Bah, YOU had a great time on NSP iirc. I can think of worse places to be. This whole Master Rob thing, though…………. Eek!

Rob.7624:

Dhampyr.2104:

Vilkata.4725:

Looks like free transfers end on Jan. 28th so if the bandwagon transfers want to leave us they better do it before then.

We’ll be at the top of Tier 1 by then, nobody will want to move.

KIDDING DON’T FLAME MEEEEEEEEE

N0o0o0o0o
I’ll lose 20G if you pass into tier 3.

D:

I’ve legitimately never been concerned for a single moment as to what tier we end up in, but if it’ll cost you money, Tier 3 is my new goal. Ha! xD

Pedra.4381:

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Just out of curiosity – what’s your class/guild tag? I run solo in Kain BL mostly, have seen relatively few roamers from either server (or Kain either, for that matter). I’ve come across an AR thief from [BOLD] that I 1v1’ed to a draw, was pretty fun – he ended up getting killed when like four more Kain pugs showed up. Really talented, tho, and you can’t consider a 5v1 kill a victory, really. Also, ended up with a GS guardian (I think, may have been a warrior) from [MAN] that I ended up having to run away from. He couldn’t kill me, but I sure as heck wouldn’t call it a draw. I lost that one, hands down, just didn’t get killed.

Both of these were by the SW tower in Kain BL.

BloodHawk.1283:

Here are my observations:
1. Kaineng has a MUCH bigger WvW population – Zerg beats skill
2. I observed WM’s “bot train” that has been mentioned (it sure appeared to be bots to me)
3. Kaineng did not win any popularity contests by: camping spawns with large numbers and siege, bringing Golems to attack a tower (when it was the only tower we owned in our BL), and acting like they are superior to both the other servers in skill (could not tell due to the massive numbers they brought to battle.).

In the end it is just a game, but intentionally ruining other server’s fun just so you can “rise through the tiers” and feel good about yourselves, is not cool.

See you on the battlefield,

Anvil Rock Defender

First off, thanks for the very well-written post. I agree that the server transfer policy is the issue.

The only point that I emphatically disagree with is your last one, where we’re apparently trumpeting our superior skill. I don’t think that’s the case at all – not in this matchup or any other one in the past. I think you must be confusing this week’s forum thread with how it was when DR was mucking around in T6.

Awesome post.

imalog.7689:

sure man! can’t wait to talk to you on your way back down the tiers!

Funny note: WM will leave the server after awhile and you all will drop back to fighting ET again.

…and we’ll have a great time fighting ET again. They were a true class act, and we had some great fights. Also, I don’t recall a single forum post hating on Kaineng from them, which sadly seems to have become the norm… Nope, I wouldn’t mind being in their bracket again at all. Interesting (and just a little bit sad) that you mention them like it’s some sort of insult – we’ve had some great opponents going up through the tiers, but I think that ET was the best.

Funny note: People seem to think Kaineng defines itself by what tier it’s in.

Should be a great time, really looking forward to it. I was WvW-baptized in the fires of fighting DR. xD

Now, all we need is Moobs and FC back here with us…

Npac.3476:

Co-Leader here. Don’t have anything to spout but I would love to get a screen of your character so that way I know when I fight you.

Thanks and watch your back

Not at home yet, but will grab you a screenie this evening – will edit this post with the jpg when I get the chance. I’ve never been on a Wanted poster before – kinda makes me feel like Billy the Kid!

Catch you in game, dude! :-)

Edit: Posted!

[PAXA], I have alot of respect for you and your style of play. Thanks for making the game fun over the past few days.

You have certain leadership that spout alot of unnecessary inflammatory junk and drag your tag down. Thankfully, ANet had the foresight to provide an “ignore posts from account” option. Thanks, ANet!

Jscull.2514:

A guild should not be called hardcore that runs only in 10+. Thats not hardcore, thats just a guild Zerg bird song. Stop giving props to people undeserving.

Thanks for letting your guys run amok in Kain BL and set up siege (does that make your guys “burger eaters” by your terminology?).

I hope you don’t look down on your own folks. That open field fight to take down those trebs was one of the best times I’ve had this week.

TL;DR there’s no need to criticize how people choose to play. Your own people do it as well – and they have fun too. Imagine that.

osif.8673:

Dhampyr.2104:

Jscull.2514:

Just because we don’t fraps movies of us killing 10+ with 5 or 6 doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen SIX.

We run nothing but cloth and medium armor classes. Turtle?

Saw a bunch of [PAXA] running with the NSP zerg in Kain BL this evening. Did you guys change tactics or something? Nice work protecting those trebs by Woodhaven, took us forever to get ‘em down. Didn’t seem like the type of thing that [PAXA] generally does tho….

Haha one of our guildies actually mentioned that us trebbing would get a forum post. That wasn’t the NSP zerg, just us and a friendly guild. ~10 people. They were fun fights though around the trebs, that’s why we did it – so we could get you guys out of your keeps for some open field fights!

That was some serious fun. Glad you were out there – was just surprised. xD I was the GS mesmer jumping into the middle of the NSP pack and spreading the confusion love. Must have died at least five times during that timeframe. Good fun.

Edit: I’m not so sure on the 10 people though. Sure seemed like more than that when I was in the middle of that pack. LOL Also, “zerg” is probably the wrong word there – just meant that was pretty much the only pack of NSP folks on our BL. Ran into you guys multiple times this evening.

Jscull.2514:

Just because we don’t fraps movies of us killing 10+ with 5 or 6 doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen SIX.

We run nothing but cloth and medium armor classes. Turtle?

Saw a bunch of [PAXA] running with the NSP zerg in Kain BL this evening. Did you guys change tactics or something? Nice work protecting those trebs by Woodhaven, took us forever to get ‘em down. Didn’t seem like the type of thing that [PAXA] generally does tho….

nekos.2584:

Any one know what servers Kaineng will play next week ? So frustrating being this outnumbered and would love to be on a server that can match their numbers. Will be amusing watching them get trounced.

Actually started to respond to this… then realized, yanno, I don’t really care. xD

Kodiack.2783:

was it something I said? :P

nice work taking it back.

K

Great fights tonight. I remember reading somewhere that AR’s night presence isn’t all that great – apparently that doesn’t apply on weekends. GET OUTTA MY BL! xD

And it took us hours in EB to scrub all/most of the red dye out. I’m tired. G’night.

Rob.7624:

Kaineng you losing your grip on the map gurl

It’s good to see that the week isn’t over.

Now, all of that pretty red in NSP BL is just calling to me…..

jkctmc.8754:

Maguuma and Borlis Pass will push Devona’s Rest down, while Kaining will move up. Borliss Pass lost a medium sized guild, but they still have some big numbers, and I’d wager they’ll help Maguuma crush Kaining, just for the simple fact they do not want to drop down a tier, and it will allow them to secure second place.

I look forward to seeing how well you guys do moving up a tier, after gaining the Warmachine guild.

I think I’m going to take the chance to level my Mesmer this week <grins> but I’m afraid it will replace the time I play my Ranger.

Right now, looks like BP may be moving down (if things stay on track) rather than DR, and Mags is on track for T4 next week, bringing Ebay back to T5. My prediction for T5 next week is Ebay/Kain/DR. I think that has all the makings of a fun matchup.

Anuxdei.2175:

Everybody faced with this problem but this going to really boring , what can i do against Arenanet kids(FULL burst thieves) , bc there is no chance to click something , everytime same thing happen i saw thief (he attacks when stealth ) than in 1sec im on 2-5k hp sometimes even heal skill or blink or stealth cant save me bc after 1.5 sec after attacked by Incvis thief im dying. What can i do ? is there any tactic ?

Thieves used to be the bane of my existence… Well, they still kinda are , but now I tend to kill the burst thieves more often than they kill me. Haven’t seen it mentioned yet, but burst thieves need to kill you quickly – extended fights do not work to their advantage. For me, the best thing is the Illusions II trait, Confusing Cry. If you can get a three clone confusion shatter on a burst thief, along with 15 secs of retaliation… Well, that burst thief isn’t going to be able to stop his own burst quickly enough to avoid downing himself. My fights with burst thieves tend to last about 5 secs or less, unless my confusion shatter is on CD. Also, works with just about any burst class/build.

Draygo.9473:

Breakouts also give 10 free siege to each person participating, that is 100 siege, also it fills the tower with an additional 100.

I’m confused. Do you mean 10 free supply? Maybe I have the terms confused. I use “siege” to discuss catas, ACs, etc.

Edit: NVM, you obviously mean supply (at least how I personally use the term). I must still be half asleep, sorry.

dabomb.4056:

Cheers again Kaineng

Hey Gal – was it your folks who set up a cata on the middle island in Kaineng BL tossing rocks at Redbriar? I thought I saw ALS tags there. Between both servers, I never even got to see any other map outside of our own BL. I’m a firm believer that we need to paint our own BL in our color, and it took quite some time to do so last night.

Thanks for the really fun night in Kain BL, NSP and AR. Great fights, and I ended up taking more than one dirt nap with a spike through my toon’s head. Woo!

Llyrx.3497:

Also guys, let’s keep it friendly here. None of this trashy talk of transfers and all that. It’s all a game and there for fun, so enjoy it!

This. Great game so far tonight, haven’t left Kain BL a single time. Constantly on the go. And for those with all the predictions about where Kaineng will stop or whatnot – I think what you’ll find is the vast majority of us on Kaineng don’t care what tier we end up in, as long as it’s a good fight.

Great reset day, all. Very impressed.

Brimwood.7963:

Fun fact (or perhaps not so fun)…if the scores stay the way they are now, we will be rejoined with DR next week :P

If/when we end up moving up a tier, it’ll most likely be to replace DR and bump them back down to T6. Mags and BP are giving them a hard run for it up in T5.

Rawr! Looking forward to a great week. Can’t wait to see you at work, Bird Song – I’m no longer limited to just stalking forums! xD

Kardiamond.6952:

@Rob

Since NSP while stay with us next week, lets try to give those Kaineng and all their transfers a warm welcome!

Looking forward to the upcoming matchup. Glad you guys are already welcoming us with open arms. :-)

Pentzski.4620:

Zyk.3597:

Whoa, just saw Drednyte’s forum signature. Did he leave PRO/get kicked out? It’s saying he’s on Yak’s Bend now.

He left along with a bunch of other PRO members. Apparently some inner guild drama or something of the sort, though I’m not the best one to ask on this. Just informing of the things I’ve been told.

Heard he was worried about having to face Kaineng again, without a numbers advantage.

LOL kidding. Maybe.

Great night at Fight Club. To the HoD ele from [GT] and the GoM engi from [WvW], you guys rock and seriously had my number. Wish I had had a chance to try each of you again, but you both were pretty popular. Awesome job.

Edit: Thanks to [RE] for putting it together. Great idea, guys.

kreese.9461:

I’ve been spamming Lion’s Arch on HoD for the fight club – seems like we have a decent turn out – thanks to the Kaineng guys who set it up

Thanks! Not there yet myself, will have an hour or so left before freedom…

Edit: The thanks are for your efforts on encouraging participation from HoD – realized that my post kinda sounds like I’m taking some sort of credit for this great idea.

Novem Reyn.5816:

I was..but then some guardian from SoS and some thief from WM alt-F4’ed…I’m just disillusioned by all you now..

I didn’t think it started yet…?

Leogolas.6941:

Kaining been stuck at tier 8 for a very very very long time. I respect those that stay on and fight when kaining was hammered every week. Its about time those royal players of kaining goes up the tier .
Wish you luck on your new alliance.
ET will meet you again in the near future for some payback .:)

Was always exciting when you [TSA] guys and [Mend] were around. Great fights!

Nuzt.7894:

Um did you forget the first rule ?

Dangit.

So, who is excited about fight club?!?

Stoneslammer.3650:

Yep sure is fun getting WtfRoflStomped by 30 or more WM and SOS. Funny thing is those players are so Bad it takes em five minutes to kill five GOM. Must be very awesome to be invaded by terribad players who are so bad they need at least a five to one ratio,before even showing up.

So, by your own account, your epic five minute fight against desperate odds wasn’t a good time? Dude, you do realize they make movies with plot lines just like that? The reason why they do that is because it’s FUN. It’s entertaining. It is YOU who is not enjoying yourself, and blaming everyone around you for it.

Stoneslammer.3650:

Or running to defend Titan be mowed over by close to ten times the players. I would sit in last place any day of the week if we could have fairly evenish WvW. So yea go tell players to find the fun in not having a hope in hell of making it two minutes outside off home base. Pfft. What I dont understand is how players on Kain are happy bout getting stuck with those guilds. The only ray of sunshine in this nonsense is that they didnt come to the server i reside on. I would have too reroll on a dif server if that happened. As I still would not transfer my already leveled toons. Specially seeing as those uber guilds will just dropdown again when they encounter some evenly matched servers.

You do realize that Titan has a waypoint right next to it that can never be contested, right? The north supply camp is one of the most difficult for an invader, because it’s so easy for defenders to rally to it. If you get killed, in less than a minute you’re back in the fight. There’s no reason why you can’t wipe a zerg in the north camp, just from respawning alone. The closest the invaders can get is either Bay or Hills… both several minutes away.

And while you’re sitting happily in last place, realize that there’s a good chance you’re still getting roflstomped. The thing is, the server that’s doing it in your hypothetical last place is stuck in T8 with you. Week in, week out. You can choose to rage, shake your fist, call names, impugn the honor of everyone… or you can realize that this is meant to be fun. You and I are coming from vastly different places. Oh, Kaineng has had just as bad a time as your server – and I don’t even care what server we’re talking about. Thing is, even while we were getting stepped on and knocked around, we were still having a great time, fighting insurmountable odds, sometimes actually winning against them, rather than being angry that the other server has more players. It doesn’t sound like you’ve found that same happy place, and I’m sorry that’s the case for you.

Devona’s Rest was our nemesis in T8 before they started moving up. Am I looking forward to a rematch if/when we end up in the same tier? Absolutely, but not because I want to get payback or revenge or whatever. I’m looking forward to it because those were some really great weeks in WvW, while we were losing to a server who could field tons more bodies than we could.

Point is, raging on our matchup thread in the forums about a policy that was created by ANet really doesn’t do much. What I think would help more is taking those five WvW megastar players you mentioned earlier and wiping some 30+ invader zergs, and having a great time while you’re doing it.

Yep, I still stand by it. YOU are in control of the fun you have. When you choose to have a rotten time, it’s a choice you make… not one that is forced on you.

Stoneslammer.3650:

I just hope those on Kain who were there before these moves understand that they will most likely be abandoned bynthe same guilds as soon as they meet stiff competition.

If (and I do say “if” – I really think they’ll stay, Kaineng is a great place to be) the transfer guilds transfer again somewhere else… so what? We start losing the points game? Again, so what? We’ve been rock bottom, and I do mean rock bottom. Have you ever, ever, been in LAST place? No? Try it for awhile. It gives you some perspective and makes you realize this game is supposed to be fun. Even when you’re getting roflstomped, this game is fun… until YOU make it so it’s not. Your fault. Not mine. Not ANet’s. Not WM, DE, RE, or any transfer guilds. It’s on you to make the game fun. You’re welcome to play the victim all you want and blame everyone else because you’re not entertained, just understand that’s what you’re doing.

For the record, I rolled Kaineng and have been here the entire time. Wouldn’t go anywhere else. WM, RE, DE, all the new transfers… they’re all Kaineng too now. Hate on ‘em if you want. Hate on Kaineng if you want. Your choice, and you’re not having fun because of it. Me? I’m still having a blast playing the game.

Valenna Tiefling.5806:

Of note, this is why you see very little complaining by HoD in this thread. No, we’re not thrilled to take a loss like this but we understand exactly how this situation works. Complainers and bandwagoners left our server long ago, and good riddance.

You’re exactly right, Valenna. I guess the main point of everything this week has been some epic fights (some of those open field battles next to garrison have been amazing), along with some really fun shenanigans (GoM folks sieging up the Kain BL JP!). I know the score hasn’t been fun, but I’m hoping the week hasn’t been a complete wash. I know that my toon has had numerous spikes through her head, so I know that some of your folks at least got some loot bags. xD

I’m sorry if I implied that HoD or GoM haven’t had rough weeks – not what I meant. The two weeks before we came through seemed to be pretty fun for you guys – Kaineng hasn’t ever had that, really. Either we’ve been stomped, or now, we’re stomping. Seems like there’s no middle ground for us, but I’m assuming when we hit whatever tier we’re meant for, we’ll find it there.

Bottom line, I hope the bad sports (regardless of server) haven’t spoiled the fun for those of us who really love this WvW thing.

And….. FIGHT CLUB. WOO!

Asami.3572:

So how about we all stop the arguing and just play the game we all love? Get back to topics that won’t get this thread closed?

Excellent idea.

FIGHT CLUB. Multiple shifts or no? Discuss.

No, if we were being camped, it would be posted in map chat for the map we’re in (that we should use the side exits), and that’s exactly how I learned about then originally, with DR camping us. Don’t have access to map chat for GoM or HoD, so forums seems to be a logical place for that suggestion.

I also noticed that Asami clarified and apologized if there was a misunderstanding. I don’t think he/she was being condescending, especially after the apology and second post. Your issue seems to be bigger than a suggestion about side exits.

Lightsbane.9012:

Asami.3572:

I don’t understand the tone you meant behind your text. It seems kind of hostile even though my response to Paul was nothing of the sort… I’m sorry if this is a misunderstanding. I didn’t want to create one. Just wanted to remind people of the multiple exits :/

that’s nice and all, but could you answer the question?

If you’ve been on Kaineng for longer than three weeks, there wouldn’t be any sort of high horse involved at all. We’ve been in the same position as GoM and HoD are in now. For months, not just for a week.

Not sure what that question or answer has to do with this week’s matchup, though.

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Dhampyr.2104:

+3 for a second round of fight club later on in the evening!

Rule #5: When a mesmer shows up, we all jump him. :P

Ok! I tend to roam/scout solo quite a bit, so won’t be too much different from the rest of my week. You guys have put more than one spike through my toon’s head this week. xD

Edit: OMG these forum problems suckkkkkkkk

+3 for a second round of fight club later on in the evening!

Theftwind.8976:

snip bleah bleah I hate Kaineng bleah

So. Much. Anger.

Congrats on the badges! You’re almost halfway to your Gift of Battle, just from this week alone. You’re welcome!

Seriously, dude, focus on the fun. Although the scorecard is really lopsided, there were alot of fun fights this week. Starting a “you suck! No you suck more!” conversation in this thread is unnecessary.

Stoneslammer.3650:

There just is no way to have fun if you cant even leave home base. Seriously for me it is not so much the winning or losing it is fighting a hard won or lost battle. There is none of that this week. It is leave the home base get kitten and rinse and repeat. Not sure what is worse, being on a server that can easily own all three maps or being on a server that cant hold a single tower or camp. Seems equally boring and frustrating to me. Then when you see players from the server that owns the maps exploiting a keep that we were lucky enough to get it is almost enough to uninstall.

Need to focus on the fun more. There were a few GoM guys who sieged up the JP in Kaineng BL last night, I’m sure they got a bunch of loot bags off a few of us who just kept running in. LOL It was just too funny to see ACs and ballistas in the JP, I couldn’t resist… xD

Edit: And I’ve heard our commanders on multiple occasions tell people to stop spawn camping. Agreed that that is no fun. Get a mesmer to drag a few of those clowns into your legendary guards, they’ll back off, I’m sure.

Phantasmal.5631:

I hope they shoot up like Kaineng and Devona, those match-ups were fun. I hope ENVY goes back to Ferguson’s. I wonder where they are. Those guys ate zergs up and many of their players were awesome. They were really hard to kill.

There are still Envy folks on FC. Ended up 1v1 with one of their mesmers a few times during that week. xD

Also, I’ve seen the Envy tag in Lion’s Arch on Kaineng in the past day or two… wonder what that’s all about?

Wintuo.1356:

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Wow, long post dude! Haha

TL;DR for this post (without the TL part) – haters gonna hate. You guys are here, you’re Kaineng now. Your folks are respectful, honorable, and a good influence. Ignore the criticism, and get ’er done. Glad you guys are here.

TronIcefiend.3769:

Good luck to all servers, and if I catch anyone on Kaineng doing anything dishonorable like I’ve seen reported, I will make your life a living hell. That’s a promise.

While I agree with the sentiments expressed in your post, I’m thinking that threats probably aren’t all that acceptable. Please refrain from doing so on the forums. Thanks.

styx.7294:

I have no complaints about Kaineng who fought hard and organized themselves and built a server that’s better than mine. Props to you guys.

“better” is definitely not accurate imo. Higher population, yeah, I’ll buy that, but better? Nah. I’ve seen some amazing play, large and small scale, from each server in our matchup this week. GoM’s defense of the supply camp close to their spawn in Kain BL was awesome – the ambushes and fighting there was great. And HoD’s run on their BL last night was nothing short of epic. The score doesn’t reflect that, but to be honest, we’re all T7 here – who cares about score? I didn’t care about the score when we were last, and I care about score even less now. I’m in this game to have a good time.