Guild Wars 2

Vote of confidence from me, +1
(but I still kind of want the flamethrower backpack, even just as a regular backpiece skin)

Eponet.4829:

most DMs will have intelligent enemies actively avoid characters that are built like traditional MMO tanks

Meanwhile it’s also the opposite in GW2, as the mobs will actively seek out characters with higher toughness, which is why mobs seem to hate warriors, guards, and ranger’s bears.
Then again, aggro is also determined by DPS and location, so it all really depends on the given situation.

I’m not the only one excited about this trait line, am I?
Then again, people who have actually played the PAX/Rezzed demo are a bit far and few right now…

DaMunky.6302:

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kek
/15charrswalkintoabar

The Revenant’s Adept and Master minor traits in the Invocation line revolve around orbs made out of the Mists circling around you. The Adept minor forms the orb every time you use a skill that costs energy on a one second internal cooldown. The Master minor makes it so the healing effectiveness is increased and that they all return to the Revenant.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Swirling_Mists

My question, to the players that have had the chance to play the PAX/Rezzed demos, have any of you had a chance to play around with this mechanic?

1) Do they spawn just where they are or follow the Revenant in a fixed radius? Are they even capable of being used by the Revenant without the Master minor (ergo for teammates)?
2) Do they have any uses besides for healing (as mentioned in the Master minor)? Do they heal allies or damage enemies? What do they do exactly?
3) Is there a hard-cap or duration attached to these orbs?
4) Do they have enough potential to go 4 into Invocation for them (minus the quicker Legend Swap and the Masters), or are they just a nice little bonus? Are they even a nice bonus or negligible?

I realize a lot of potential cannot be determined from the demo alone, but I’ve been aching for information about these two traits since the Ready-Up and they didn’t have either traits equipped during it.

Those two traits are kind of selling points to me for the Revenant. Even in a DPS spec, I could be dropping mini-health kits for my allies or getting mini-heals just for swapping legends, on top of regaining energy.
Passive support is an idea that appeals to me very much. I love running traits like “Spotter” or “Battle Presence”, so I think you can understand why “Swirling Mists” is really appealing to me.

Anyway, I’d prefer NOT to hear any speculation, as I am dying for cold, hard facts around these two traits, but I’d welcome talk around this trait.

Thanks in advance

Icewolfnector.1487:

I mean, what had Mallyx to do with conditions?

It’s not as much that Mallyx had to do with conditions, it’s more along the lines of a condition spec borrowing inspiration from Mallyx’s attacks from the first game.
Banish Enchantment is a boon strip with the same name.
Unyielding Tormet Anguish is kind of funny. The new skill shadow-steps folks away while the old skill resurrected the summons that Mallyx made during the fight. Unyielding Tormet Anguish instead borrows from “Shadow Smash” which deals a hefty amount of damage and randomly shadowsteps you.
Mallyx’s heal works like “Consume Torment”
His other two skills are new, the elite channel and the Resistance skill.

I feel like Scarlet being an engineer does limit what a Revenant could possibly do with her, unless we’re whipping around magical grenades and summoning Steam Hulks.
Most of her insight into the Leylines were given to her by the Eternal Alchemy, so I don’t see a lot of lyeline related skills.

I’ll be insta-80’ing the Revenant, but I’m restricting myself to playing through the Personal Story and Season 2 to learn the class before I take him into any cooperative/competitive content.
It’ll grab me some first-hand experience with the class, some waypoints to begin with for quick-travel and starting Map Completion later on, bombing rewards like Black Lion Keys and more ToK’s, and lastly a refresher course with S2’s story.

I agree with all the folk saying you should be able to ToK your Revenant, since OPs argument can be carried over to ANY class (not just Revenant), but I’d also urge folk to practise a bit before jumping into cooperative/competative.
Based on the replies we’ve received in the thread so far, I’m not in the least worried. It’s the player’s skill, not the class, and the players in this thread seem to more than capable of playing a new class.

As disgusting as it is to say, I’d want it to be like the raft mini-game from another MMORPG called “Mabinogi”.

Players would group up and ride a large raft down a river. Some players would dedicate to steering the raft, the melee/tanky players would attack any enemies that would board the raft to attack the driver, and ranged characters would hit enemies on the shore-line before they tried to board. Players would earn rewards at the end for the amount of enemies killed.

Much like Blaeys said (I didn’t read your reply until after lol), it could be a pretty neat activity that offers more than just a steady ride down a river.
Maybe it could be instanced in an Adventure?

EDIT: Maybe it could be like Dajkah Inlet from GW1. A survival-based thing where you earn time by killing enemies.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dajkah_Inlet
http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/view/Rafting

runeblade.7514:

I disagree.

Self rooting melee skills is for the high risk and high reward which is needed for skill based games.

This.
Also, I’d rather not soil my pants at the sight of three Wars charging at me with Hundred Blades channeled.

Tyreal.5230:

How the heck do you lose your cursor? lol

There is a lot of similar-tone yellow in this game

I’m glad I’m not the only one who lost their cursor during fights.
I feel less… awful.

Just a flesh wound.3589:

That argument could be used for any of the profession specific starting armor.

For example:
If wearing a Mesmer mask is part of the lore then Mesmers won’t be able to wear outfits, except for outfits specially made for them.

At any rate, it will only be a few minutes after the expansion starts before there will be warriors and guardians running around blindfolded so I wouldn’t worry too much about lore and blindfolds.

Since it’s impossible for the blindfold to be Revenant-Specific, I hope that the Revenant closes his eyes during combat like the original Ritualist did.
You might have been able to always hide a Ritualist blindfold but they would close their eyes when in combat, always closed off to the physical world and focused.
Little details like that really feel the biggest.

Stop directing responces at OP lol
He copy-pasted an article.
Send e-mails to the author instead.

Have you even seen any of the videos about the demo released?

I didn’t see many people die to the wyvern even when it was flying around dropping fire fields, and you can just glide back up to the ledge after being knocked down.
Unless there are points of the fight where the up-drafts are removed, just stand out of the fire and you’ll be fine.

That’s not to say that later Wyverns won’t be more difficult, of course, as they mentioned there would be others. And harpoon guns…

Sarif.1827:

Like… Healing Signet outshining Virtue of Resolve even with Healing Power stacked to the teeth?

To be fair, Healing Signet is a slotted and sometimes traited heal, while VoR is default to the Guardian with another slotted heal.

Ithilwen.1529:

healthy downgrade to power ranger

Don’t even try it

DanteZero.9736:

… Warriors, come out and playyyyyy.

You made my day

If you want futuristic junk, go Asura and wear their racial armor or pony up a few bucks for the Aetherblade Medium gemshop set.
Demonic… ton of options for this. Off the top of my head, you could pull off the Citadel of Flames dungeon armor. Charr look beastly, would fit the demonic thing.
Angelic… whole ton of armours. Just need to roll a Human female, find a bunch of obnoxious effect items, and color everything white.

I’ve been seeing in the videos that none of the skills are greyed out when they go gliding, and out of all the footage I’ve seen, I’ve been dying to see them at least press their AA.
I haven’t heard any comment about it, I’m not sure if anyone has tried yet.

IF ANYONE IS GOING TO PAX, PLEASE CHECK!

There will probably be one or two initial closed beta tests, probably with a set of selected players and then one or two with a wider selection, maybe with a sign-up sheet.
I’m sure they’re at a point where they no longer need to do stress tests, so the closed betas might be more closed than we’d like, likely with embargo like we saw with the YouTubers. They’ll want to test the new features but they’ll also want to keep us excited and guessing.

That’s my take, anyway. Official feedback will have me checking the GW2 homepage like five times a day after the PAX demo.

ronpierce.2760:

Hammers do poor damage…
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Mace/Axe looks fun, but I have a feeling it’ll only get solid play if it’s like sword for warriors and scales well with both power AND condition damage, so that it can be ran as a Celestial or Carrion build. Beyond that, their combat potency seems rather low.

For the hammers on revenant, don’t forget, they’re all wearing celestial and two whole trait lines weren’t available, particularly the power-tree.
Hammer damage might seem mediocre right now, but they aren’t even geared/traited for a power weapon.

As they were wearing full celestial in the demo, celestial mace/axe might not work if you think they already seem weak. You’ll probably have to mix and match celestial gear with other gear or, as you said, run carrion or another condi-spec.

The OP is referring to the “Mastery System” and probably didn’t pay attention to it.
So if this was supposed to be an example of a specialization misinterpretation, OP hit the nail on the head. He not only misinterpreted the Specialization System but also misinterpreted the Mastery system. Two birds with one stone.

Hats off to you, lad.

If Revenant gets any mention in the expansion, I’m sure it’s mostly going to focus on Rytlock’s return/revival and subsequent transformation into a Revenant, rather than the entire profession’s emergence. The story of Heart of Thorns is focuses around Modremoth, not the Revenant.

Rytlock may be the first Revenant to make a splash in the Living World, but I doubt he grandfathered the entire profession. As they’ve said in what few comments they’ve given, the profession may be “new” gameplay wise but there are instances of spirit communes all throughout Tyria’s history. They didn’t need to explicitly explain the emergence of the Guardian or Engineer professions (the two “new” professions at initial release), just slight nods to them through in-game quotes such as saying the Engineer derives from Charr and Asuran tactics or that the Guardian is a concoction of Elonian protection magics, a dash of monk, and an extra helping of heavy armor. We never had a story segment devoted to explaining either class so I don’t see why any segment would be pure focuses on explaining Revenant’s origin (minus Rytlock’s own return).

I serious doubt the Revenant profession as a whole will have a large impact on the Heart of Thorns storyline. We may see a few important faces that just so happen to be Revenants, but it’s more about their character than the Revenant-Wrapper they find themselves in.

If I’m wrong… well, that’ll be disappointing.

Dhampyr.2813:

That and the idea of having a physical box might appeal to some.

I actually made a thread asking about a physical copy earlier last month, the response was in the official HoT FAQ

“Q: Will this expansion only be available digitally, or will there be a boxed edition as well?
A: Both. Once Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns is available, you’ll be able to buy it digitally or get boxed editions at retail stores.”

https://help.guildwars2.com/entries/105801626-Guild-Wars-2-Heart-of-Thorns-FAQ

Very well conducted and very informative!
Thanks for bringing our words to the developers and thanks for another stellar video, Joe!

Reverence.6915:

Is it possible for any ANet employee to let us know when HoT will be available for pre-ordering from stores? I keep checking in to my local store but they have no news of it as of yet.

Keeping in mind that pre-ordering date has little bearing on release date.

AngryJoe’s interview, which took place last weekend, said they were more focuses on Closed Beta and the PAX previews at the moment and won’t be giving prices or dates until they get closer to release.
When you hear the news that Closed Beta has ended, keep your ears open for the Open Beta as they might be ready to release the information about dates and prices near then.
They might do pre-order weekends like they did for GW2’s initial release, hopefully a head-start as well.

Best source I can say is either their Twitter or Facebook, both are pretty active

Good god, this PLEASE
All of this!

I’m thinking Knights Armor with Zerk accessories if Hammer is decent, if not I’ll roll a condi-set.

I’m not entirely worried about Rev’s medium health with life-steal, 2 slotted heals, and the Invocation line dropping those health orbs for you and party members every time you use an energy consuming skill (which is everything besides for the AA).
Kinda worried because I don’t think the devs were using it in their showcase, I never actually saw those Mist Orbs, so it’s just wishful thinking.
I think raw damage and armor is what I should focus on unless Revenant is golden for conditions.

I want pirate themed legs.
With a peg leg.

DiogoSilva.7089:

That, or the swinging animation should be less physical and more magical, like Guardian’s Staff.

That’s exactly what the developers DON’T want, as stated many, many times during the Revenant’s teaser episode of POI.
They want the Revenant to be a brutal, very physical magic user, and they want to encourage a brawler playestyle. They WANT the Revenant to swing it like a regular hammer.

As the animation is right now, I think I prefer it.
In the beginning I was a little upset that the hammer was a ranged weapon, but now that I’ve seen the animation for the AA being very physical I’m looking forward to maining a hammer. Even when I’m ranging with enemies in my face, I can at least pretend I’m smacking them since it’s piercing AoE anyway.

As for the projectile, on the other hand, I’m jumping on the “I want to throw a ghostly version of my current hammer skin” train.

I’m dying to see how Juggernaut looks on Revenant, in the process of crafting one right now.

Petition to Channel Nimoy’s legend as a Revenant

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

Cantha. You wrote “Cantha”.

. . . It’s Elona.

My bad. It’s 3am lol
Sorry if I came off as rude there.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

DocZed.6973:

I want Palawa Joko to be a big portion of any future Canthan updates with his corrupted Sunspears.

. . . you going to double-check what you wrote there?

Are you?
Maybe try the “Mordant Crescent”

“Many of the Sunspears swore allegiance to Joko after his rise to power in exchange for wealth and prestige. These traitors and those of their brethren who were raised into undeath now form part of the Mordant Crescent, who still hunt those who would attempt to uphold the oaths of the Sunspears.”
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Order_of_the_Sunspears

I want Palawa Joko to be a big portion of any future Canthan Elonian updates with his corrupted Sunspears.
I hope Razah is hanging around with the Murasaat (if that’s what we saw in the trailer). I also feel like the Forgotten are going to get a bit of a spotlight because of their connection to that door in Point of No Return.
Maybe Prince Rurik in connection with Rytlock retrieving his sword.

“Life without courage is slavery, and Koss was born free.”

If you’ve got another drive, try moving the entire game onto the same drive, rather than just HoT.
OR
Try moving other things onto there to make room for HoT. lol

Terrahero.9358:

And 600 stat points is quite significant..

It’s only 300 to any given attribute. +50 from each point

New maps like Southsun, Silverwastes, and Dry Top don’t count towards completion.
As far as I know, the 100% is only the content that was available on release, including all three WvW borderlands and EB. I wouldn’t worry about HoT adding to that.

Maybe not player decided, but I agree that mixing the trait line’s attribute bonuses up to better suit the specialization is almost necessary.

I’m supporting this. +1
Farm, lumber-mill, mine. Perhaps not for the benefit of the player like the OP suggested (turning farmed animals into a guild banquet for bonuses).
It could open up new in-guild responsibilities. Completed jobs earning influence for the guild and gold/karma for the player.
I’m really liking this, man.

Thank the Six for your confirmation.
I was at work during Ready Up (still am), and look forward to watching it on their YouTube or on some third party channel like WP.

It’s just going to be really weird seeing Rytlock rapidly change between Revenant to Warrior (vice versa, back and fourth), depending on which order you do the HoT stuff.
Like if, on your Revenant (or any other character who hasn’t done the Season 2 stuff yet), you play the HoT stuff first and then play Living Story so he loses Sohothin and hops into the Mists AFTER all the HoT stuff went down.

Eggs.3142:

The warrior says, Thiefs are better at stealth, weaken their stealth
The Thief say that rangers are better at a distance, make them fight closer
The Rangers say that the Necromancers get more pets then them, take them away
The Necromancers just sigh and take it

Ambition as dead as their minions.
Underrated post, +1

Shield and melee staff.
Maybe Focus for support oriented moves, more moving walls like Hammer #4 >:D.

Here’s my upcoming Revenant.
All skins owned and 60 Tomes of Knowledge (plus level 20 birthday scroll) waiting for his arrival on Tyria.
Soon™…

I’m not really sold on the gloves, shoulders, or helmet, so those might change. But Phalanx Warplate, Vigil Tassets, and Paws of Koda are definitely staying.
Chances are, I might just keep using the Revenant Blindfold at level 80. I also want to see what the other two cosmetic choices are for starting Revenants. If it solves my shoulder and glove issue at the same time, I’ll just make a 2 second alt and delete them after it registers in my wardrobe.

(colors definitely aren’t final either, I just don’t have the patience to preview dyes like that. It’ll be black and purple most likely, but not in that awful arrangement)

Not in game yet, but you can check Dulfy’s blog for a preview code
http://dulfy.net/2015/02/25/gw2-upcoming-gemstore-items-from-feb-24-patch/

Oddly enough, I’m dreading the day they add this.

Ahh, thanks man! Must have scrolled past that.
I guess it’ll just be up to my specific retailer if it’s available or not.
I hope I don’t have to take the train to Toronto just to get a copy like I did for GG:Xrd.

I have most of my GW2 related stuff together on a shelf; the books, the 4 campaigns for GW1 as physical copies, the beta-weekend disc case, and the GW2 physical disc case. (Sadly I never got a hold of a Rytlock, the shipping was just far too much to get it to Canada)

Question being, can I expect a physical copy of ‘Heart of Thorns’? In Canada?
I’m sure it’s the last thing on people’s minds but it would be nice to add to my shelf.

Can I remind everyone that the heal skill has a 30s cooldown?
I’ve seen like a dozen posts saying that the heal has no cooldown.