Guild Wars 2

fykick.2569:

Dogblaster.6713:

Eva Ridlee.6854:

Always makes me laugh that people who dislike a game so much come onto forums and moan about it. Move on…………

these people were playing and enjoying the game, now anet broke their golden rule (no gear progression) so naturally all the people rage

How woud you feel if you bought notebook with windows, because you hate apple and after a 3 months, they tells you .. you need to update to mac.

The people likes you makes me laught cause.

The game was released with vision of no gear progression, everything was ABOUT SKINS. Now they changed it so what the kitten you expect from peope to do?

Go away I would hope. MMORPG players are such poorly adjusted individuals.

And those who defend companies after they broke their promises are what then? mentally challenged?

Eva Ridlee.6854:

Always makes me laugh that people who dislike a game so much come onto forums and moan about it. Move on…………

these people were playing and enjoying the game, now anet broke their golden rule (no gear progression) so naturally all the people rage

How woud you feel if you bought notebook with windows, because you hate apple and after 3 months, they tells you .. you need to update to mac.

The people likes you makes me laught cause you are *********

The game was released with vision of no gear progression, everything was ABOUT SKINS. Now they changed it so what the kitten you expect from peope to do?

I dont mind RMT now .. i support them
Anet is the one i dont support anymore. ever

worst update ever .. guild wars is not guild wars anymore … Did blizzard bought Anet or something?

When can we expect pandaland event please?

whats next ? ..

sPvP gear progression incomming in december

Death by Chickens.6902:

This outrage is hilariously stupid.

I guarantee an ANet dev will post in the next few days and explain that NO, they said nothing about adding new equipment tiers every 6 months, and as the blog explained, they saw a need to bridge the gap between Exotic and Legendary by adding ONE new tier.

You people are going to give yourself aneurisms over nothing. Stop freaking out. Constructive feedback is great, but ya’ll are taking it too far.

There is no difference between legendary and exotic .. they are totally the same stat-wise

So they added something even better than legendary … use brain next time

Full Ascendent gear = every current dungeon/pve content = easy joke
Everythign will become easyer at level 80 .. Every explorable become easyer than they are now … This is guild wars, nah. crap wars

ASB.4295:

Oreoz.2573:

the majority of you that said you aren’t gonna play anymore………………….are gonna play. cmon now. You will. It’s a free game.

Oh, I will play. I just won’t be spending any cash the game anymore, invite others to try this game out or buy any expansions. I also won’t be attending their special event in LA, run their new dungeon or visit the new area.

I really liked the game up until this point, but I’m not an addict. ANet doesn’t have me wrapped around their finger. I can and will stop supporting them whenever I choose to.

Same, wont invite any of friends and wont spend any real money into gem store.

Scavenger hunt ways means what ?

Natural.7013:

Half of you are the typical 2012 MMO players that whine when it’s too hard like this should be a sideways console game that gives you everything. The other half is like hell ya bring on real progression. Either way the devs can’t win.

Personally, put more true vertical progression in the game and give it more depth. More depth= good game. more casual=more console/cash shop genre.

Most of all, focus more on PvP because that’s what will get noticed in the esports world if that is truly what Anet claimed they want for the game. PvP has been largely ignored since launch.

I would say I am more eperienced and skilled player than you are. Infact I have 900+ hours played in GW 2, about 200+ explorable runs and about 400+ gold spent. I also have about 600 days played in World of Warcraft from vanilla WoW and dont let me count the other mmorpgs I ve played in last 10 years.

And I am AGAINST vertical progression in GW 2. Not because Its hard (I would be among the first who would complete it anyways) but because Guil Wars was always well known about horizontal progression. If I wanted to play gear progression mmo, there are tons of them btw.

YOU DONT NEED vertical progression to have content challenging. They can just add new dungeons, routes that gives new shiny rewards and they can be 2x as hard.

But I belive this Ascendant armor is not new tier and its just someting to upgrade your current gear so you can infuse your armor against some specific monster

Ganzo.5079:

bcbully.7289:

Dogblaster.6713:

bcbully.7289:

Conner.4702:

bcbully.7289:

nachtnebel.9168:

Ayane Hajinmon.9165:

does no one on this forums play gw1? its just infuse armor >_<

That would be fine, but no of those articles sounds like that.

We have to wait for the official statement and until then we can’t do anything expect showing Arena Net that we won’t be happy if they would add a new tier of gear.

speak for yourself. I would be very happy.

Except you stopped playing after a month like you did TSW and went to WoW. Not to mention all the badmouthing you do about this game.

Gear treadmills is the worst type of content to keep people playing. As it is that’s exactly what they open the doors for with what is said.

Do I know you? I’m still subbed to TSW. What does any of this have to do with me being happy that Anet listened to it community and added progression?

What community your talking about ? Because Guild Wars was always played because it has horizontal progression. No gear progression in team of tiers or better stats ..

If you are talking about wow community .. okey then

What is the #1 complaint about this game? Lack of progression. Ascended armor is the answer to the question. Good for them for listening.

There is enough content for the “hardcore casual” give the rest of us something.

really no, the first complain is lack of endgame, and you can make an endgame when people are ready to reach that end.

now most of us are geared, its time for the challenges! (and if its only for skins, its good enough for me.) The new dungeon is the right thing, not the new tier!

There is always complain about no endgame. In every mmorpg. I know it, ive played everyone released for past 10 years. From wow, rift, aoc, vanguard, tera, aion .. to lotro, etc

I play and bought gw because it has horizontal progression. If they change is .. bye bye

And if you think I dont want gear progression cause I am casual, you are wrong. I have 900 hours played in GW 2. I ve done about 200+ explorables and If they introduce new tier of Armor I would be one of the first wearing this armor in the world. But thats not what I want … Thats why I quit wow

If anyone think that gear progression would make Guild Wars 2 better game, you are just naive and wrong

Melonamen.1275:

Dogblaster.6713:

bcbully.7289:

Conner.4702:

bcbully.7289:

nachtnebel.9168:

Ayane Hajinmon.9165:

does no one on this forums play gw1? its just infuse armor >_<

That would be fine, but no of those articles sounds like that.

We have to wait for the official statement and until then we can’t do anything expect showing Arena Net that we won’t be happy if they would add a new tier of gear.

speak for yourself. I would be very happy.

Except you stopped playing after a month like you did TSW and went to WoW. Not to mention all the badmouthing you do about this game.

Gear treadmills is the worst type of content to keep people playing. As it is that’s exactly what they open the doors for with what is said.

Do I know you? I’m still subbed to TSW. What does any of this have to do with me being happy that Anet listened to it community and added progression?

What community your talking about ? Because Guild Wars was always played because it has horizontal progression. No gear progression in team of tiers or better stats ..

If you are talking about wow community .. okey then

Uh, I don’t know about you, but until now, I’ve been seeing a lot of people saying there was no progression or anything to keep them interested (including complaints of no gear progression). And it wasn’t just here and there either, these complaints were being brought at least as much as this issue is being brought up now.

That make sence becose the rest was happy with the current system . no gear progression. They didnt need to complain or post anything, everyone were just playing the game.

And btw if you use brain, you can clearly see that community dont want gear progression .. 30 pages in few hours against this change is prove that community dont want this.

But okey. Think anything you want .. If Anets adds gear progression (and I think they dont) I will just quit with 900 wasted hours ingame, but who cares right

bcbully.7289:

Conner.4702:

bcbully.7289:

nachtnebel.9168:

Ayane Hajinmon.9165:

does no one on this forums play gw1? its just infuse armor >_<

That would be fine, but no of those articles sounds like that.

We have to wait for the official statement and until then we can’t do anything expect showing Arena Net that we won’t be happy if they would add a new tier of gear.

speak for yourself. I would be very happy.

Except you stopped playing after a month like you did TSW and went to WoW. Not to mention all the badmouthing you do about this game.

Gear treadmills is the worst type of content to keep people playing. As it is that’s exactly what they open the doors for with what is said.

Do I know you? I’m still subbed to TSW. What does any of this have to do with me being happy that Anet listened to it community and added progression?

What community your talking about ? Because Guild Wars was always played mainly because it has horizontal progression. No gear progression in term of tiers or better stats ..

If you are talking about wow community .. okey then w/e

HERE is something you should watch ..

Few points why horizontal progression is better than vertical progression.

Made by well known streamer

Angry Angus.2187:

Dogblaster.6713:

Angry Angus.2187:

ITT People assuming the worst based off a very small trickle of information

THIS IS AREANETS PR problem. They should give us full detailed information before spreading such a rumor … Not ours fault.

This is up to Anets PR to fix. Dont blame players for freaking out, how would you freak if someone from your government said someting about your contry becomming communism after new election ..

And what will the players freaking out do? I do blame both. ANet should answer some of the player’s questions but also the players need to calm down before making assumptious opinions on the update and just wait for the update then say “I think x could be y” and so on. Complaining about what we don’t know is worthless at this point because the update will still go ahead as planned, and complaining without knowing all means that if ANet does listen to us the players in this thread then they could be getting the wrong idea of what we think because we might change our opinions on content release.

Also the government analogy is a different situation and does not work well with this. As the old saying goes its like comparing apples to oranges.

The analogy is the same. Both are changes of system

capitalism and communsim
horizontal progresion vs vertical progression

Angry Angus.2187:

ITT People assuming the worst based off a very small trickle of information

THIS IS ARENANETs PR problem. They should give us full detailed information before spreading such information … Not ours fault.

This is up to Anets PR to fix. Dont blame players for freaking out, how would you freak if someone from your government said someting about your country becomming communism after new election .. happy ? xD xD

Ponzu.4570:

they are still really overpriced for me….im at 500 hours with 2 lvl 80s,i probably could afford 2 or 3 pieces at best…

Well i have 900 hours played and I already have mine T3 cultural for month + about -200-300g spent on other things.

You are doing something wrong

Vena.8436:

GonzoNeo.4965:

Ascends items are only to backslot

From the Lost Shores page, thats what this actually looks like. It looks like a back slot item.

But that doesn’t match what the community news sites reported though it would still be technically true: ascended has higher stats than exotics*.

*sic: there is no exotic back piece in game, every back piece is better than an exotic at this point.

Slightly more powerful than exotic … here you go

And because there is no exotic backpack ingame yet .. I dont think this new armor is only for back slot only

Hey guys.

I would strongly recommend Anet to give us full informations about upcomming updates/pathches or NONE.

For the past few days you made statements with almost no details and these statements just made players panicking.

For instance. https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/bltc/Recent-Market-Shifts-Follow-up-Precursors/page/8#post704096

All you acheived by this post was mess. You did upsate hundereds of players for no reason. Players dont know if you are going to make legendary cheaper, they dont know if you give them fixed recipes, they just speculate.

And what is happening in game now .. Everyone is refusing to craft precursors or buy them because they are afraight. Or everyone who has precursors stored in the bank are just thinking about selling them because they might go cheaper after your patch.

So please, next time .. give us valuable informations or none.

Thank you.

Rangle.2539:

I am deeply concerned if they start putting a new gear tier in just 3 months. They don’t really need to put another tier if they want to add new content. If GW2 turn to another gear treadmill MMORPGs I am out of here. SLIGHTLY better gear every 2-3 months? That’s going to stack up….

+1

Ganzo.5079:

But the change to legendary weapons (now they have better stats then exotics, look the DB) keep people think that this new ascended items, are a new tier (the red tier)…

I hope that this blog come out very soon. Too many question to answer!

Legendaries had bigger damage then exotics .. at release, but they were fixed so now they are equal.

LeoXearo.3641:

It sounds like people don’t want to play an MMO.

MMOs need to have ways to continually advance your characters, that’s what sets them apart from other online pvp games or single player RPGs with online co-ops.

GW1 was not an MMO, GW2 should not be like GW1.

advance your character can mean a lot of things !
From visual appearance to more skills, traits etc.

It doesnt mean only gear stat progression !

and GW 1 is not mmo? So it is adventure, or FPS game?
If Guild wars 1 is not mmorpg, then world of warcraft is single player game aimed for 6-8 years old kids.

really .. think first before you post someting.

Diviner.7405:

I just bought my Dusk a few days ago. Now, this comes out, which could drastically lower the cost of a pre-weapon….. Should I just sell my Dusk and buy other mats needed or just keep my Dusk?

This is some BS.

I dont think they will somehow reduce the prices .. by giving us easyer way to obtain precursors. That would be like screwing over every dedicated and HC player they have.

Kirby.4951:

Leiloni.7951:

Deth.4109:

“Introducing Ascended items, artifacts of great power that can be improved by a special new type of upgrade called Infusions, which can be found in dungeons. Look for more information about Ascended gear soon”! NOTHING here explicitly states these items are better in way than exotics, if any thing they could be the same stats with different methods of customization<be it cosmetic or Effect(not statisical). To be honest this thread has killed my faith in the GW2 community, i feel as if every last raging person in this thread needs to quit gaming and get therapy and stopi acting like a kittening idiot.

Multiple fan sites do in fact state that they are statistically better:

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/11/12/guild-wars-2s-lost-shores-content-primer/
“slightly more powerful than exotics”

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/473/feature/6882/A-Peek-into-the-November-Update.html/page/1
“a bit more powerful than exotic quality”

http://www.buffed.de/Guild-Wars-2-PC-169660/News/Guild-wars-2-November-Update-mit-Item-Progression-1034934/
Translation provided by DirtyKlingon on page 1 of this thread:
“This is a departure from the principle, that an improvement of items should not be in the game rather the exotics (and the more beautiful but equal legendaries) should be the end of the value-flagpole. Arenanet reasoned this change of course with the feedback from fans and players. The appreciation of equip is a big motivation for many”

Clearly all of those fansites have been given the exact same preview because they all formatted their articles in the exact same way. Also it’s pretty clear there is a stat increase, as evident by those sites as well as the lack of a denial in this thread – the only thing ANet posted in this thread was a “we’re posting a blog update soon” and that’s it.

Adding more gear to the game that requires more and more grinding endlessly for better stats will be a game killer.

This game attracted the players that did not want that kind of mechanic and players that did want it have already left. I myself am a pvper at heart along with a large group of gw2 players. I have found pve fun and interesting in gw2 and have been looking forward to new challenges in new dungeons in the form of content. I already must farm 2-4 sets of gear for different specs in wvw and I am just finishing my 3rd set.

Now they are going to add another tier that forces me to grind another set of gear if I want the best stats in the game? If so I may come back to the game a year or so from now if the pvp takes off at some point. But my daily logins doing wvw, daily achievements, and dungeons will end.

Say you lost 40% of a possible market by getting rid of a progressive gear grind. But gained more loyalty in 60% of the market that either loves the idea of no gear grind or doesn’t care. By changing your manifesto and trying to earn the players of the 40% market you are going to lose the players you already have, AND there is no guarantee the progressive gear grind players will come back to your game and benefit you more then you lose.

Doesnt matter how big % it is .. Players who play Guild Wars because it has horizontal progression they are loyal and they dont quit GW in few weeks, months.

But players which wants vertical progression quit every mmorpg released after few weeks, months as we can see for the past few years. So catering to these players would be the dumbest thing to do …

Guild Wars always had its playerbase, players who loves horizontal progression. For many many years … Dont know why would they screw them over like this.

Hope this is all just speculation and Areanet explains it all

Thayel.1236:

Not going to read 25 pages so if this is a rehash oh well.
I seem to recall Anet saying something along the lines of legendary comparable armors coming out sometime after release. Exotic is not the top tier for weapons, legendary is. So releasing this new armor is nothing more then them doing exactly what they planned in the first place. A tier above Exotic and on par with Legendary is not cause for freaking out.

Exotic and legendary weapons are exactly the same stat and damage wise. Only difference is the skin and ’’legendary’’ icon

karma.8763:

nachtnebel.9168:

ArcTheFallen.7682:

I feel sorry for Anet. Their initial fanbase turn on them so easily.

Actually, if the new gear really has better stats than Arena Net turned on their fanbase not the other way round.

How? there was a gear treadmill from level 1-80…….what is the difference after 80? nobody said we were going to HAVE to grind dungeons for them.

You play and buy the game you know anything about ? thats really sad

The whole ideology of Guild Wars is that exotic armor is the best armor you can ever get. From day one to the last expansion. Everything they ever add, armor, weapons etc. Will be just cosmetic and skin.

This is the reason why thousands of players plays Guild Wars in first place. If they add better and better gear after every expansion, they break everything GW stands for !

Players that came to Guild Wars and didnt even know this game is about horizontal progression has NO rights to throw arguments and tell long time Guild Wars players to leave the game. Horizontal progression was promised from day 1 and if they change it, they gonna loose big portion of players base. The core one…

Crapgame.6519:

azurrei.5691

“Technically, you are correct. I’m curious as to why people don’t get all fed up with the fact that also, technically, legendaries like Twilight are 1% more powerful than a similar exotic in regards to weapon damage…perhaps because the bottom stats are in fact equal to exotics and sub-optimal unless you want soldier’s stats on a weapon.”

I don’t know really. Honestly this is all speculation on our part until we see what they blog. I believe we all agree on that at least. However, I for one as I’ve stated like the idea of a basic gear quality and stat base. It is something you can tweak via runes and accessories. Once you are done, that is it. Outside of some food or as you state legendary that is it.

All is more or less the same. Go on vacation and you are back in the game no worse for wear. Other games that isn’t really the case.

Like I said – I don’t know if it is a game breaker. The game has to progress to keep people interested. Is this enough? Is the list of 80 things to do after hitting 80 enough? No idea.

I like what I have played so far and continue to play. I’m only 1 person though and not paying Arena Net’s bills. I do know I’m personally not a fan of NCsoft games. Especially after playing Aion…

SO SAD

Just stop spreading out wrong informations you know nothing about.

Legendary weapons and exotic weapons are EXACTLY THE SAME ! STAT wise and DAMAGE wise. They changed the difference in patch …

This game doesnt need any vertical progression and definitely dont need players who wants it.

All the GW 2 needs is: Fix buggs, balance classes and add content/events on regural basis (classes, dungeons, skills, pvp maps, etc.)

We already have about 10+ mmorpgs that supports vertical progression (swtor, rift, lotro, aoe, tera, aion, wow, etc) so just go and play one of these If you love it so much and stop complaining and runing the game which is doing right without it.

I dont get how can complain about there is nothing to do at 80lvl .. there is plenty things to do and I know it more than most of you (900 hours played)

And besides .. I have played every mmorpg released in last 10 years and they had all vertical progression and GUESS WHAT? Everyone were complaining theres nothing to do either … So i guess its not the game, but you players who complain about everything .. If you dont like the game, you should quit and find something else to play instead of ruining it for players which are happy with current state.

AcidicVision.5498:

Has anyone considered this might be a balance thing?

The forums are still full of people that cannot do a dungeon to save their lives. QQ about Lupicus and Alpha on a daily basis and can’t walk around Orr without getting omg-wtk smacked down.

Plainly, the majority of players just aren’t getting as good as Anet expected them to get. Too many habits from other games and failure to adapt.

So how do you help those people along without nerfing the entire game? Add a new tier of gear to shoot for and make the current top tier more accessible to help that base of players while adding some more difficult content on the top end for the more skilled base of players.

This doesn’t mean a new tier of gear is going to be coming every patch. GW had the same base stats on gear for SEVEN years. I’m sure this isn’t a decision they just idly came buy without a litany of reasons behind it.

People should stop counting their chickens and see how all of this ends up working.

You mean to make current content, dungeons easy so everyone can do it with closed eyes? PCHA .. this is just another joke

I think I am becoming too old enought to stop playing mmorpg anyways .. Please ANET, make this another wow clone so I can quit.

rhiaaryx.9063:

ArenaNET:

I played World of Warcraft for a long time and the number one complaint that I always had was this: when you level a new character and reach max level, you have to get the “low” tier of gear (let’s call it T9) before you can get the “higher” tier of gear (T10) before you can get the “heroic higher” tier of gear (T10H). So to be able to play your max level character, you had to grind a dungeon/raid that nobody played anymore except on alts, then you had to grind the non-heroic new dungeon, and then you could play the heroic version (which, inevitably, is where all the serious players are by the time an alt hits max level). So for me to play with my friends, with the people I wanted to play with, I had to beg them to step down (and waste time) to play the older dungeon with me because PUGs were useless.

I bought GW2 and am buying my s.o. GW2 because, like GW1, GW2 wasn’t supposed to be like that. If that is no longer the case, then I will not be buying him GW2. I may not buy extra character slots as I had planned. What’s the point of having eight characters if I can’t have eight characters that are able to play their level-appropriate content without getting new gear (excepting the case where they don’t have level-appropriate gear). With a gear treadmill in place I will have to do what I described about WoW for your game. And if so, I will probably never participate in new content.

If you do this, you are punishing your casual players. I simply do not have the time to grind gear; I don’t even have a single level 80 yet. If you do this, by the time I have a level 80 (unless I power level, which makes me say: why not WoW?) I will have to start a gear grind. No thank you. Just give us new skins, please. Perhaps have different stats, such as combinations of stats that you can’t currently get, but don’t make them more powerful. I loved GW1 because it was all about content and different skins. I hated WoW because it was about the numbers. If I start to have to look up “which armor is best” instead of “which looks best”, I will stop playing this game and I will be very disappointed.

They are not only punishing casual players but everyone who plays GW just because of its ideology. I am by all means HC player, played GW 2 already for 900 hours, spent 250+ euros on gems, done explorable dungeons 200+ times but if they introduce higher tier of armor I will quit immidiately. Even tho I would be the first having this armor, its all against Anets promises and I wont get used to it.

EnRohbi.2187:

This is the funniest thread I’ve read in a long, time.
Thank you all for entertaining me enough that I’ve actually not gone and made my morning coffee yet. C:

I forgot how much I loved the doomsayer end-of-the-world MMO Crowd.

I’m not gonna lie,
Even during my 5 years playing GW1 before moving here,
I did miss some amount of vertical progression through grind. (And guess what; that doesn’t come from WoW because I’ve never played it for more than 3 hours)

Either way,
I played in Rares for quite a while before I geared up with full exotics and even the difference in those tiers is not game-breaking.

If people are going to leave the game over this,
Then the best I can be is relieved that there will be less QQers around.

Whether the ascended armor ends up having actual stat increases over exotics,
Or whether it does end up being similar to the GW1 and Infused armor for the muursat (Holy balls, I hated the Muursat)
I’ll be satisfied.
I’m looking forward to the content update quite a bit.

You dont get it do you?

All people cry here about is AREANET just broke their promises. Every experienced mmorpg player knows that the most improtant thing about the game is company. If you cant believe company, you cant believe the game.

We dont speculate here ..

The article clearly says .. ‘’slightly more powerful’’ than exotic !

There should be nothing more powerful than exotic. We dont care about infusion slot etc.

Another broken promise by Areanet. If they really introduce this new armor and its going to be more powerful than exotic, even by 1 stat .. I guarantee you, GW2 will loose a lot of players. Core GW players

Thereon.3495:

Why is everyone panicking? The time was always going to come where those that are stronger, more dedicated players get rewarded for being that way. Think of this as raising the level cap based on skill alone and you get the idea.

Also, why would the devs make it so that all dungeons apart from the new one give you obsolete gear? Expect either present dungeon rewards to change or the ability to upgrade exotics.

THERE was no raising the level cap in GW 1 (even after datadiscs), thats why players plays GW 2 .. many of them

saurus.8290:

so if they add 10 more lvls in next expansion you all leave too?

becouse lvl 80 exotics will be crap

yes

The MOMENT they introduce better stat wise gear, or more levels .. I am uninstalling guild wars 2 .. well If you can call it Guild Wars anymore

The Guild Wars stood for something. Thousands of players playing Guild Wars 2 just because of this. If they introduce treadmill they will make a huge mystake.

Ïf they introduce this armor …

So long Guild Wars 2 .. Hey Dota 2 and Elders scrolls online

I am playing guild wars 2 for one reason. Everythign here is about skin. Not about stats. If you introduce more powerful armor, weapons than current exotics I have no more intention to play this game. Ive spent about 250 euros already and 900 hours. Wasted time and money then.

This gonna just force players to work for this ascended gear even if they dont want to just to be on the same level as the others. And thats what Guild Wars isnt about.

Dont see any reason to play GW2 when there are better mmorpg with better PVE and better gear treadmills

Whats next? level 90 in next expansion? Pandas? PvP tier 1-15 gear? No thank you … Dont want to play Guild Wars 2 which has nothing to do with Guild Wars 1 .. its more likely becoming World of warcraft 2

But if its someting like armor infusion … whatever

If I were you, I would stick tho the dawn and wait for the update. If they give us easyer way to obtain precursor, log in immidiately and just sell the dawn to first order
BUT I dont think it the price are going to drop anyway. Areanet is not that dumb to do anything so drastic just because of few players cryeing out loud.

They have statistic, they know how many players already have legendaries and precursors. So dont worry

Did you guys even consider that prices of some precursor might go up after the patch? What if they give us recipe and for instance, some precursors now costs 30-80g (torch, spear, pistol, warhorn, etc) .. and these recipes will need 200g worth material

@Magnetron – Anet cant change the price of items directly (precursor, lodestones, etc), price is determinated by players. How hard is this for you to understand?
All they can do is increase drop rate for instance

Arysta.9530:

Dogblaster: In my opinion, it would be downright insane to not wait. Clearly, they’re going to make something about the process easier. You’d either not hurt yourself (doubtful) or greatly hurt yourself by buying it now.

Okey mate. I think I can wait few more days before I decide what to do with the golds I have. Thanks.

Sleepy.2647:

Dogblaster.6713:

Disable mailing items/gold? Are you serious? Whats the reason? Cause of gold sellers? What if I want to send my friend 10 silver for repairs, or i want to send him dye which I dont need, etc? Most lame idea Ive heard for the past few days.

You can always use guild bank to transfer items/gold, so goldsellers would still be able to sell gold…except maybe it could be easier to track (whoever was in that guild).

Yes and everyone is officer and guild master in Guild Wars 2 right? So everyone can just put and take out everyting they want from guild bank .. NOT

Or you expect us to ask every single time our GM to give us rights so we can pick up that item from GB ..

Some ideas and expectations of yours are just beyond unbelieveable

Vayra.3290:

Dogblaster.6713:

Vayra.3290:

There are plenty of other stuff than gold that goes into a legendary. For example on average about 2 million karma, 100% world completion, requiring 2 crafts at 400, doing WvW for badges etc. None of that is required for the exotics (except 1 craft at 400 for some).

btw Its 1 mil karma, sometimes less

Depends on luck :P Remember that you also need 250 for the weapon itself, not just for the clovers.

Yes and avarage for clover is 500k karma

Waar Kijk Je Naar.8713:

• Lower costs for Mystic Forge recipes (fewer 250-ecto/250-orichalcum-parts recipes)
• Most RNG removed from the game (most importantly Mystic Forge randoms)

• Disable mailing items/gold. Force people to use the TP

• Better rewards from Dungeons (6-7 First-of-the-day runs for 1 weapon is silly, 23 First-of-the-day runs for a full armor set is ridiculous)

• Magic Find removed from game

It appears I expect quite a lot.

I dont agree with this.

I dont want to see any of this changes ever. Lower the prices of some recipes ? Why? If you really want the item it gives, you works for it. Dont be lazy.

You dont like RNG. You just need to live with it. I like it for instance. Thats how mmorpgs are set up.

Disable mailing items/gold? Are you serious? Whats the reason? Cause of gold sellers? What if I want to send my friend 10 silver for repairs, or i want to send him dye which I dont need, etc? Most lame idea Ive heard for the past few days.

5-7 dungeons runs for weapons is TOO much for you? Man thats 2-3 days. You are one of these who like everything for free. Instant 80 next time .. I have 6x 80 lvl characters, half of them with full dungeon gear.
Dungeons are already rewarding enought. Maybe bigger change of dropping lodestones from chests. Thats all.

These things you suggested would hurt Guild Wars in long term for sure. You are just too blind to see it

RLD.7439:

SWTOR launched without a dungeon finder and you see where that kind of failed thinking got them.

You don’t launch an MMO in 2012 without a LFG system. Especially when you know it’s going to be expected.

/boggle

SWTOR didnt fail because of lack of dungeon finder lol ..
SWTOR failed cause open pvp was just a big joke, you were forced to do same dailyes all over and over again, crafting system was another joke, all you did was staining in main city waiting dungeon, or raid to start, also bad optimalization in warzones, you had maxxed out character in no time, nightmare operations were bugged as hell …

LFG system is not mandatory for mmorpg. What about finding the guild, make friends and run the dungeons with them? I ve done about 200 explorabe dungeons aleady, played almost 900 hours and finding a group was the last problem I had. Buggs are the major thing they should fix.

This is mmorpg after all, no dungeon finder encourage you to socialize with others …

You are just to lazy to make friends and expecting game to do it for you, just click and wait till game give you 4 random players every time. cause you are too lazy. Whoever is smart, he has friends and guild that hes running with.

Ye, the price and the looks are fine.

If you like the skin, you gonna buy it. If you dont, dont see any point in asking for lower price.

Ive alrady bought tier 3 cultural month and half ago and now aiming for precursor.

Do you guys just care about ’’exotic’’ ‘’legendary’ label ? You complain here cause some awesome and expensive weapons dont have ‘’super expensive weapon’’ status or what?

Its all about skin after all. Nothing else, they have same stats anyways …

If all you need is show off with those expensive weapons, just post them in map chat + the price you bought them or crafted them for …

Vayra.3290:

There are plenty of other stuff than gold that goes into a legendary. For example on average about 2 million karma, 100% world completion, requiring 2 crafts at 400, doing WvW for badges etc. None of that is required for the exotics (except 1 craft at 400 for some).

btw Its 1 mil karma, sometimes less

Angrec.6970:

Kid Taylor.5479:

I don’t get it, if you think that they are better looking than legendaries, what’s to stop you from acquiring them? The only thing that will be missing is that you don’t have a purple label on the weapon. To me, that’s not such a big deal so long as the skin is nice on the outside.

Your missing a lot of the point. Its not about if you like the look of the weapon more or not, its that an exotic takes as much gold or MORE gold to make compared to a legendary (which also happen to have several meta achievements tied to it). When the penultement hard to reach goal in this game (legendary) is the same or easier to get than a higher end exotic, something is off, and this problem will only become worse if they make precursors more obtainable.

I just get it now, you just dont like the fact, that these weapons are labeled as exotic and you cant show off with them, because they dont have ’’legendary’’ status right ?

I tell you one thing, no one cares about small label ’’exotic’’ ’’legendary’’ The price is the prestigue factor So for me, exotic weapons that cost 1000g is far more awesome than legendary that cost 400g

Graill.8596:

Farmers views will never change, they will always be right and they will always state they have skill, which in reality translates to hours played.

But there is the rub isnt it? The hours played. A farmer/boxer deserves a legendary because they have “skill and dedication” but the “average” Gamers does not deserve a legendary.

That is some target audience Anet.

Here is an easy fix for legendaries. Anet sells no ingame gold, they need to stop now. Anything for the legendaries needs a rework, example loadstones, simply pitiful. A grind isnt bad, mindless farming is. Everthing associate with any type of legendary anything needs to be bind to account, no TP, no trading to other players.

Legendaries need to be storylined, period. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out a much better way to impliment this.

Having to make tens or even hundreds of dungeon runs is simply stupid for anything let alone the legendaries. I run dungeons ONE time, why the hell would you want to go through them again except to farm? Farmer game mechanics, a bad thing.

What happened to the innovation Anet promised, this game is worse than some korean MMOs in the farming dept.

We gamers complain, yes, because you farmers feel you are entitled. You farmers feel because you play alot, which by the way require zero skill, that your “dedication” leads to great things. The only thing i feel is sad for the Gamers getting fooled by Anet. I feel sad for the developers that did not speak up during meetings when others looked on in disbelief that some things were decided with the farmer in mind.

Legendaries…That is some line of thinking you have Anet.

You are forgot one thing. Legendaries has nothing to do with story or endgame. They are just awesome looking weapons which are kitten expensive. You are acting like if they were some big part of story line or like everyone should have one. NO

Only those who plays guild wars 2 every day for a lot of hours, those who you call no lifers, tho who neglect real life because they dedicated most of their free time to this game should have one.

Anet didnt promise any grind in Guild Wars 2. They said you dont have to grind to be on the same level as everyone else and that is true. Lets see .. you have 2 groups, first group with everyone having legendary and second group with everyone having ugly exotic random weapons … at the end, both groups are equivalent in terms of skill or stats. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE you can see is, TIME THEY DEDICATED TO GUILD WARS 2.

So if you ask me, those who play 12 hour a day, running dungeons, farming, etc are those who should wear legendary weapons. Because they are the ones who dedicated all their time to Guild Wars 2

Its just sad how players cant see that someone who plays 3x more will have better items than they have. This is mmorpg, where time spent ingame is major factor, not skill.

This whole update (or whatever) of the system is just lame.

I saved up money to buy precursor and now I dont even know If i should put the order or just wait because of this mess.

So tell me John Smith, will you make precursors easyer to obtain so I should wait for your update, or should I act like nothing is happening and buy precursor.

Because I dont wanna be pi*** off after i buy it and then realize its 3x cheaper now …

You gave us almost no information .. All you did was mess with out heads, you could atleast say .. we gonna give you fixed recipe, etc. Dont see anything hard about that.

Remove all the chain events leading to dungeons.

Here you go, fixed your problem Areanet because everyonce clearly see your are not compentent to do that .. for over 2 months now.

Avatara.1042:

People need to stop thinking in extremes. Anet changing it does not mean it suddenly goes from super hard/random to mailed to you when you create a character. It will just be less super hard/random.

All we see here is just speculation. Nothing else ..

Btw .. next build is on tuesday or The lost shores update? Anyone?

Archer.6485:

Kelvingts.2035:

It’s been 3 months now, or at least close enough there. If there are at least 10 players who’s gotten a legendary in a legit way then Anet is going to keep the system as is.
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Anet has already stated that they will be changing the system in the next build. GG I guess you were wrong.

They said anything about changing the system. You cant just read

Its not Areanets fault you disconnect or your PC shutdowns due to overheating in dungeons. You cant blame anyone but yourself and your pc or internet provider.

Ive done about 200 explorable runs so far and I had like one disconnect.

It may be lame but thats how it is

kiranslee.4829:

Will you also try to take some time to see who and why is manipulating per weapons market. So far I got over 10 offers for pre weapon for real money. Last 5 days for example there was like 20 Dusk under 380 g . Now there are only 2 for 445.

Ps.
How is legendary , legendary , if you need to brainlessly grind one same event in Orr and even more grind insane amount of money ?

New to mmorpgs? Grind is huge part of every mmorpg and farming orr is not the only way to make money in gw 2