It’s not highway robbery at all, don’t be so dramatic! Given you state yourself that it’s half the cost of the game, it’s clear to me that it is cheaper to use the gems than to buy a new copy of the game – plus you get to keep your characters, so that point is moot.
Free Transfers have been there since the day the game started, and you choose a week before it goes paid to do this? Sounds like some bad communication on your half. I know it can be frustrating, and I know that guesting solves most of the issues for most people, but if WvW is what you want to primarily do then I guess that doesn’t help.
It is definitely highway robbery. 1800 gems is ~$20 which is a ridiculous amount for updating a database field on a backend server. This game wants to push people to play together in guilds/groups, but then goes out of its way to charge you for the privilege. Clearly a money grab; no two ways about it.
Server transfer prices are perfectly fine.You pay 25$ to move all your characters.That is not even close to what blizzard takes.25$ per character transfer which will be very expensive if you want to move all your heroes
That’s why I don’t play WoW. You’ve allowed yourself to become desensitized to high prices. I bet you buy gems with real money too.
I did bought gems for roundly 500-600 euro already, any problem with that?
25 bucks too much for you ? Come on. Wait or pay then.
They wont make the price lower becuase of few poor players
So .. I have transmuted my legendaries week ago, they had exotic orange colour.
NOW they have Legendary colour back BUT, there is still ’’transmuted’’
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Hah
and now nobody will LoL at my predator anymore.
I have Juggernaut and predator on my warrior and many players asked why I even crafted rifle which is horrible without effects.
In your face :-*
thank you anet for this update and Guild Wars 2.
First off. Thats only YOUR oppinion.
Just as yours is. See how little this contributes to the discussion here?
Second. RNG is big part of every mmorpg out there, from loot drops, to damage, etc. In many mmorpgs you had only chance to sucesfully craft an item, so be happy you cant fail the Legendary when you have all the materials.
I hate this argument. “Be happy, it could be worse” is not an excuse for bad design. Neither is “it’s optional”. People need to stop accepting bad design on such a flawed basis of thought.
And by the way, who cares that you can buy a Legendary? You act like you bought 10 already
How is it “an indication of everything you’ve been doing and what you’ve accomplished in the game” (in the words of the guy who made Legendaries) if you can just buy it?
The devs already agree that they shouldn’t be purchasable, and it’s likely this function will be patched out of the game in the coming months.
BIS? So what? You act like it takes months to obtain BIS weapon. It takes hour to craft, buy exotic 80 lvl weapon.
So…you clearly didn’t know that Ascended weapons are coming, and will soon outclass your Exotic weapons. Legendaries have been effectively stated as “grind prevention”: grind for them once, and you never have to grind for a BiS item again because they’ll just automatically get stronger when new stuff comes out.
You are just one of these who complains, no matter when, no matter why
Complaining about a game’s flaws does not mean that the person in question just felt like complaining.
Yes but atleast, I dont want current working system changed based on my oppinion and pis* off every player who worked hard for it already:)
You are the one who dont want to work for it, so you want it changed so it fits your needs. But this is not how world works.
Do you see difference here? You are tryeing to change the system that thousands players accepted from release just because YOU and few others dont like it.
So tell me, why thousands of players did accept them and others cant? Because they are not supposed to craft Legendary weapons. Those are only for players who meet the requirements, not fo those who cry about them.
btw. I never heard that Devs dont agree with purchasable Legendary weapons, If they do, can you provide link? Or its just anoter oppinion of yours?
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The only people who have legendary weapons are bots, gold buyers/farmers, Trading Post terrorists, and people who have lots of real life money to spend on gems.
If you consider that a good thing then im shocked.
Legendaries should be hard to get, but they should require skill, not big wallets and exploits.
Haha
I almost have 2 of them. Didnt exploit, dont play TP and dont buy golds
And I know other players who got them legit.
You know what is sad. Players like you, who think they are the best and smartest players on the world and there is no one better. Truth is… there are. There are players who are smarter, who are more skilled and who can make 2x more money than you do, legit.
First off, there is nothing Legendary about Legendaries in their current state.
Won’t even get started on the ridiculous amount of materials needed for one, but the fact that it is craftable in general is not Legendary. AND to top that off, it is all RNG/Lottery based from the Mystic Toilet. Sorry but that is not Legendary.
Oh and let’s not forget that once you’ve made this so called “Legendary” weapon, you can sale it on the Trading Post for tons of gold. Meaning players can just buy a Legendary weapon for gold or whip out their wallets and spend real money on one. How is that Legendary? Sorry but going to Walmart to buy Awesome Sword of Flashiness is not very Legendary.
There is nothing Legendary about this at all.
And lastly, they are the best weapons in the game and will continue to be as well. They are not just fancy skins. You forget that Legendaries will scale to each new tier that is introduced and will always be BiS. Meaning you will never have to farm for a new tiered weapon cause your Legendary will automatically become the best tier weapon whenever a new tier is introduced. So you have a weapon that auto levels on it’s own and you think it is just a skin? It is far from that.
First off. Thats only YOUR oppinion.
Second. RNG is big part of every mmorpg out there, from loot drops, to damage, etc. In many mmorpgs you had only chance to sucesfully craft an item, so be happy you cant fail the Legendary when you have all the materials.
And by the way, who cares that you can buy a Legendary? You act like you bought 10 already
BIS? So what? You act like it takes months to obtain BIS weapon. It takes hour to craft, buy exotic 80 lvl weapon.
You are just one of these who complains, no matter when, no matter why
100% agree with your statement. I also think the current system of crafting Legendary weapons is very well done!
As someone who crafted The Juggernaut and almost done with The Predator, I know what you talking about. I never enjoyed crafting, or farming material/gold in mmorpgs I have played in past 8 years as much as in Guild Wars 2.
If developers are smart, and I believe they are. They know, there is NO way to please every customer. You can never ever cater your product (etc.) to every customer segment out there. Same goes for Legendary weapons, there is no way to change them so everyone enjoy the way of crafting it. There will always be someone who dont like it, no matter how many thousands, milions, bilions players love it.
And I dont care if they are sellable on TP. I dont care!
It doesnt make these weapons any less awesome
Players should be able to do whatever they want with things they crafted.
You need to gather material in order to craft weapons, armor. Thats normal
And legendary weapons are the best looking weapons in-game so you need a lot of materials to do it
They are not weapons everyone should have. Map complete, story, achievements .. everyone will complete this later or sooner. But Legendaries are ment to be crafted only by players who are willing to dedicate the time to farm all the gold, material, etc that is needed.
I already crafted the juggernaut and almost done with the predator. And I did enjoy it. I dont play mmorpgs for story or achievements (found them boring) I play mmorpgs so i can develop my character, farm gold, material for better gear, and play with friends.
So yea .. if you dont like the requirements, just dont go for it. They are just really expensive skins and its really sad how some players keep creating topics like this and expect developers to change requirements.
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Hello there old vets!
I have a little question for you: how do you like your new game? Do you think it’s better or worse than it’s predecessor?
Personally I had high hopes for GW2 but now I feel quite disappointed. I don;t say the game is bad, but the thing is it’s Guild Wars (which was one of the big advertising points of the game) yet core mechanics (variety of skills) from GW1 are pretty much gone, and most of the decisions A-Net make seem to take this game even further away (ascended stuff).
What are your opinions? Please share them below (I can offer cookies).
I love GW 2
By the way. Asking if players do like the game on the forums is really bad idea. On forums you usually see unsatisfied players (minority) who seek topics to complain. Go ask in-game and you will see positive feedback usually
Dude, anyone can work, save money and buy a house. Anyone. The only people who can’t or won’t are classified by you as being lazy. I understand your logic but, that’s not Legendary. That sounds like work.
What you consider an accomplishment is what I consider something very easy to do that took a VERY long time to finish. At the end you’re like… “Oh thank God that’s over.” What you probably felt was relief. Not accomplishment.
‘’Anyone can work, save money and buy house’’ Really?
So you are telling me, graduating colledge, buying dreamed house, buying expensive car is not accomplishment and everyone can do it? Really?
Man I think you dont even know what accoplishment means, do you?
Accomplishment is SUBJECTIVE feeling.
It means: ‘’Something that has been achieved successfully.’’
So yes. Usually for normal person, craft Legendary is big accomplishment. Usually bigger than finishing story quest line. For some not …
So just because for some its not accomplishment, doesnt mean its not for everyone. Usually they didnt even craft their Legendaries and because they are lazy or they do not like farming, they demand changes.
Just go craft a Legendary … before that, you have no rights to complain.
Now, your comments just sound like this: ‘’ Hey man, you have Bentley? Who cares.. I could have one too, If i wasnt so lazy. Its an easy task to make money for it. I go rather ask Gandalf If he has some new quests ready for me! ’’
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@ SpyderArachnid Legendries were about skins from the beggining, dont know what are you complaining here about
Btw .. The tier is called ’’Legendary’’, not title and I think their skins are Legendary, really awesome looking weapons.
“Legendaries” will always be BiS. They will scale automatically to each new tier introduced, allowing you access to every new set of stats before anyone else. A “Legendary” weapon will always be the best weapon you can have. As well as having it, you never have to farm for the next tier of weapons, cause you will already have it.
I’d say that’s more than just a glorified skin. The thing I am complaining about is that there is no “legendary” way of obtaining them. It is simple mystic forge gambling or grinding or spend some money on the TP. Sorry but there is nothing legendary about that.
Conan didn’t go to the market to buy Atlantean did he? No. He earned it. There is a story behind it. Such is the way of a legendary weapon. It is unique and has a history. There was a journey involved in obtaining it. It shouldn’t just be something you can go to the store and buy. There is nothing legendary about that.
If you care about the BIS status, that you are the minority, every player I know with Legendary did it for skin only. Because buying, crafting, obtaining BIS weapons in GW 2 takes few hours, days
Because they are just awesome looking crafted weapons.
I hate story quests in Guild Wars 2 and I would hate to do some story quests again in order to craft Legendary weapons. Boring ..
I already crafted myself Juggernaut and now almost done with Predator. For me it was great acomplishement. I dont play mmorpgs because of quests, in fact I found them always boring in mmorpgs (maybe expect swtor)
I play MMORPGs so I can run dungeons, kill bosses, farm material/gold, pvp, obtain best gear, customize my character.@ SpyderArachnid Legendries were always just skins, dont know what are you complaining here about
Btw .. The tier is called ’’Legendary’’, not title and I think their skins are Legendary, really awesome looking weapons.
So … Complete story quests in order to craft myself best looking weapons in-game? HELL NO.
It was a great accomplishment? I have difficulty understanding this statement. Could you do me a favor and elaborate on this a little more? What is it exactly that made you feel like you’ve accomplished something?
Well It took big effort to harvest all the material, gold, badges, etc. in order to craft it
you know …
So … In real life when you buy that big dream house you always wanted, with money (not by doing story quest) you dont call it accomplishment?
I would …
I BET, you didnt crafted your Legendary and yet you are whining about it
lol
Sorry but if you feel bigger accomplishment by finishing story quest in guild wars 2 than crafting Legendary, buying T3 armor set. Than allow me to laught ..
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Because they are just awesome looking crafted weapons.
I hate story quests in Guild Wars 2 and I would find really lame to do some story quests again in order to craft Legendary weapons. Boring ..
I already crafted myself Juggernaut and now almost done with Predator. For me it was great acomplishement. I dont play mmorpgs because of quests, in fact I found them always boring in mmorpgs (maybe expect swtor)
I play MMORPGs so I can run dungeons, kill bosses, farm material/gold, pvp, obtain best gear, customize my character.
@ SpyderArachnid Legendries were always just skins, dont know what are you complaining here about
BTW. I think the tier ’’Legendary’’ they have is deserved, because they are really Legendary skins with awesome effects
So … Complete story quests in order to craft myself best looking weapons in-game? HELL NO.
And I think there are already few topics abou this, so please stop creating new ones. There wont be any changes anyways. System is already up and running, hundereds of players already crafted their Legendaries and thousands are almost done too. So either you join them, work for it or give up.
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I crafted Juggernaut and now almost done with Predator
Right there.
Thats why you wouldn’t care about a legendary, your juggernaut was made with lodestones that cost 75 gold altogether. For people like me and many others who have to slave for hours legitimacy grinding for 100 charged lodestones or saving 400 gold, making all of that effort to complete sunrise and make it void would create a huge back lash.
I don’t expect you, power traders or people with legendarys made from lodestones under 1 gold each to understand.
There is a issue and unfairness in the game regarding lodestones
And no one except an arena.net employee is going to tell me otherwise.
First .. Its 130-150 gold for 150 molten lodestones atm.
Second .. Jugernaut also require 250 silver doubloons for 75 gold atm.
+ I said I am done with Predator almost too, 100 onyx lodestones required (one is for 2,40 gold)
Legendary weapons are supposed to be SUPER expensive, 100 charged lodestones are not supposed to be farmed in week or month.
So please dont tell me that I had it easy compared to you, becaue I did spent a lot more golds on it than you did. I had to work kitten hard to get so much golds and material to craft my Legendaries.
And by the way, you did decide to go weapon that require charged lodestones even tho you knew they are the most expensive ones, it was your choice and you cant blame anyone for it.
But when you craft your Legendary that was so expensive (Sunrise, Bolt, etc.) they will have bigger value for you because you knew they required harder effort.
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Game is about skins. How do you know that the ascended weapons are going to be better looking that the current skins? YOU DONT.
So even if all these current crafted weapons were BIS like legendaries, what if they add new 10x nicer skins? You wouldnt care that they are not BIS and you would just go for the weapon that looks amazing.
If you are crafting Legendaries, Mjolnir, Infinite light for stats or future stats, not skin, then your doing it wrong. Skins are why are you going for them. And even if they werent BIS in next month, who cares. You just craft or drop BIS weapon in few days, weeks and then transmute it.
I crafted Juggernaut and now almost done with Predator and LAST thing I care about is some BIS status in future … In this game, have BIS items is easy as ****
@The Blue Ace … So no … Owners of legendaries I know personally wont quit game even if Legendaries werent always BIS. Because they crafted them for skins, like I did. So please stop saying things like you know everything.
And no, Lodestones should stay expensive as they are now. They are the only expensive material in this game. And I didnt start playing Guild Wars 2 just because everyone can have everything for free.
So guys please stop speculating about this, even if they werent BIS forever, who cares. They have awesome skins and you can have BIS weapon for few golds, or few dungeon runs and then transmute stats
You are acting like if all those Legendaries, expensive crafted weapons should become absolete, which is not the case. In many mmorpgs you had to just sell the skin of weapon you loved because you had no transmutation option, here you got it. So be happy about that.
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Really? How can anyone ever create topic like this?! Convince you to play again?
I dont want to be rude but no one cares if come back, its your decision, you should be old enought to make that decision for yoursel
I have 1000+ hours played and no one had to convince me to play. I still do enjoy it.
1400 hours since release.
I am totally satisfied with the current way of crafting Legendary weapons.
Many of you just seems not to get that Legendary weapons are just really expensive and awesome looking crafted weapons.
There will be some tweaks but nothing else, so I think you should get started or give up now.
I already have Juggernaut and now almost done with my second Legendary. Yes I have 1000+ hours played and many gems bought but thats my choice and you can do the same, if you are not willing to farm, play a lot … your choice
Personally, I love material, gold based achievement, not story based one.
because I enjoy farming material, dungeons in MMORPGs more than doing some story, which i found usually boring …
Legendary weapons are just not story based, end-game weapons. They are optional and if you like the awesome skin you need to put really big effort into it. Thats how It should stay.
Its all about personal oppinion, some of the players love the current system, some dont. But the system is here from the release and hundered of players already crafted Legendaries + thousands are close to finish theirs. Changing the whole system so YOU like it, would be really unfair against them.
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Class change ?
No thank you
Everyone should start new class from level 1 so he can learn it properly. I would pay real money for a lot of things myself, race change, Legendary change, etc. But not going to happen. And class change should never be option in mmorpg.
I haven’t played WvWvW meta-game for a while. Is everyone still running glass-cannon builds? If so, run p/p condition/elixirs.
I run Carrion gear, have won the vast majority of my 1v1 fights, beat thieves almost 100% of the time. Only thing that counters a good Condition build is a good vitality/cleansing build. Anything relying on toughness or just flat out berserker gear will get crushed.I do feel like the Engineer is quite weak, but it’s not like it can’t hold it’s own ground. Been playing Engineer since BWE1 and I’ve found my condition build to be the most effective thing for open world PvE and WvWvW. May not be the most optimal, or have the most versatility and burst, but my Engineer has the survivability and the DOT to kill pretty much anything but the tankiest of builds.
Have you tryed condition/toughtness/precision necormance or mesmer? Go try their damage and surviveability in wvw or pve and I am telling you that youll see how they are 2x more powerful than engineer in same gear.
We are just saying that engineers controlled by skilled players will always perform the bad VS other classes also controlled by skilled players.
No one here is saying Engineers cant perform good but they cant perform good as any other classes in this game. Not even close. Sadly
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+1 Op is right.
I have 1300 hours played in GW 2. I have leveled 6x 80 characters and almost having 2 legendary weapons and I have to agree on Engineers beeing the worst class in Guild Wars 2.
Not only that they are underdogs, underpowered but also their normal weapon skills are totally lame, not fun and they need to be changed. You are forced to go weapon kits instead of normal weapons because of that.
Rifle in pve? … Those are really viable and fun abilites? Dont make me laught
Pistols? Did you see that animation and the damage? Dont make me laught again
Engineers may be useful in some way but they are NO WAY near to be equal to other classes in Guild Wars 2.
You want Legendary on your Engineer? Waste of time and resources.
Areanet please …
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I’m just curious about how many people in this game have over 500g. Because to me seeing a legendary up there for 9500 makes me think gold seller. Someone who can part with that amount of cash as easily as they can create such a legendary. Motive being to motivate more people to alternate ways of getting gold. Most people I know are struggling to make a legendary, and taking weeks to even get part of it done. I personally find it alarming to see something like this being done.
I know already a lot of players with legendary weapons, including myself (now I am almost done with my second one) The price 9500 gold is too much in my oppinion but 2000g would be acceptable maybe. Not everoyne has 500+ gold on their accounts but does everyone in real life have 500k euro on their bank account?
Nope, only rich people ..
Legendary weapons are for Rich players. Easy and simple
Dont see any problem with Legendary weapons beeing tradable.
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Like Anet give a F#ck about us guys in getting Legendary….And i do agree that getting Legendary is a pain.unless ur a non lifer and the whole time u spend on the game.But not everyone is like that.Some ppl have a Job,Family,Morgage,college, hobbies,etc.
Well good luck with that then. Complaining about your real life not allowing you to gain the best weapon in game is not way to go buddy
You are your own master. PUT YOUR TIME IN WHATEVER YOU WANT. Like everyone else do.
Read one more time carefully and then speack
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Some ppl like to play this game and do others things too.Not just staying on game tons of hours.So from what u said i guess everyone that want a Legendary need to play 3 months (1200hours just like u) without a social life.And i dont say u have playd this game Non-Stop.But im sure u havent been out too much.So pls before u rush to say some words that have no sense think first.And from the way u spoke i bet ur not older than 18 and dont know what are responsabilities.Or u are older but u still have that mama`s boy life(No Offence).Those like you, with hobbies, work, wife, kids will just achieve Legendary in a year. Whats problem with that? Are you just jealous because I just dont understand your point.. I did play 3x more than others, I did sacrifice A LOT of time in those 3 months so i think I deserve to get it faster than someone who plays casualy and rather spend time with his family, work, hobbies or whatever.
You just decided to spend your time elsewhere. Instead of having legendary in 3 months like me, you just got more real life stuff going on. So that is fair. Or should I complain here that you did more real life stuff? Because thats only my decision I didnt.
As this is the second time you are calling someone jealous i’m almost convinced that you either are trolling or have some disorder of some sort. Please stop posting here. You neither understand the original concerns i have mentioned nor you have said anything constructive and contribute in derailing the post.
Thats your oppinion and I respect it but I think I can post wherever I can when I please to. I cant stop you to create topics like this either, can I?
I said what I think.
But you are right. I do not have anything else to say so bye all GL & HF
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Like Anet give a F#ck about us guys in getting Legendary….And i do agree that getting Legendary is a pain.unless ur a non lifer and the whole time u spend on the game.But not everyone is like that.Some ppl have a Job,Family,Morgage,college, hobbies,etc.
Well good luck with that then. Complaining about your real life not allowing you to gain the best weapon in game is not way to go buddy
You are your own master. PUT YOUR TIME IN WHATEVER YOU WANT. Like everyone else do.
Read one more time carefully and then speack
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Some ppl like to play this game and do others things too.Not just staying on game tons of hours.So from what u said i guess everyone that want a Legendary need to play 3 months (1200hours just like u) without a social life.And i dont say u have playd this game Non-Stop.But im sure u havent been out too much.So pls before u rush to say some words that have no sense think first.And from the way u spoke i bet ur not older than 18 and dont know what are responsabilities.Or u are older but u still have that mama`s boy life(No Offence).
Those like you, with hobbies, work, wife, kids will just achieve Legendary in a half year or year. Whats problem with that? I just dont understand your point..
Some players do play 3x more than others. I did sacrifice A LOT of real life time in those 3 months so i think I deserve to get it faster than someone who plays casualy and rather spend time with his family, work, hobbies or whatever.
You just decided to spend your time elsewhere than I did. Instead of having legendary in 3 months like me, you just got more real life stuff going on. So that is fair. Or should I complain here that you did more real life stuff? Because thats only my fault I didnt.
You cant just EXPECT to have same skill in something (basketball, piano, etc) as someone who spend 10 hours a day practicing these things when you decided that you practice only 2 hour a day.
Same in guild wars 2.
Legendary weapons are just exclusive, unique weapons so HC or no-lifer players have something big to chase. It wont give them any advantage, its not even story related or something.
You cant expect to have Legendary fast as someone when you are not willing to spend the same time for it like he does.
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Like Anet give a F#ck about us guys in getting Legendary….And i do agree that getting Legendary is a pain.unless ur a non lifer and the whole time u spend on the game.But not everyone is like that.Some ppl have a Job,Family,Morgage,college, hobbies,etc.
Well good luck with that then. Complaining about your real life not allowing you to gain the best weapon in game is not way to go buddy
You are your own master. PUT YOUR TIME IN WHATEVER YOU WANT. Like everyone else do.
I like what Areanent sais.They want to reward players who play Guild Wars 2, not those who are not playing it.
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If the things keep up like that on TP ull see ,Dusk.Kudzu,etc going to be 500g+ in a month,2,3.
Anet need to do something about this.
Nope .. I dont think they do.
Scavanger hunt is on the way, for those who dont like mystic forge or TP way. Be patient please.
Actually, they said somewhere that they want to appeal to both casual (by making it easy to get stats IMO) and the hardcore (by making legendaries hard to achieve IMO). It’s a small aspect of the game. If it’s too hard, there are a ton of other great looking skins that aren’t as difficult to get. It’s only one skin per weapon type that you personally won’t obtain for a very long time for whatever reason, because you don’t have the free time in your life, or otherwise. In a game that is not like WoW, in the sense that you can accomplish your legendary by yourself without the need of a group, how else would they have implemented something for the hardcore? I think they did a great job, 3-12 month grind is a great time sink to build a legendary and I think Anet agrees.
+1 Agree on this. Everything you said is truth.
Legendary weapons are for HC players. You are casual or you dont like farm, play all day? Then be prepared that it will take you a year to get your legendary.
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Well then I must ask you first, why do you want a legendary? Cause it looks cool and no one has it? Well if we drop the prices to make it affordable to everyone, then that just doesn’t look right, does it?
Those are two different reasons. I don’t really think people who want a cool weapon necessarily care about how many other people have one (like the ones who just want to lord it over other players because it’s rare).
You are wrong then. Players wants legendary weapons mostly for one reason: to become unique and STAND OUT from other players. Almost everyone. I would never go for Legendary if every second player had it, it would lost everything it stand for. It was supposed to be the most rare, unique weapon in the game. Only 5% population should have it.
You give Legendary to more people, to everyone. It wont be Legendary anymore.
No thank you.
Areanet wants Legendaries to take 1 YEAR for avarage player (with work, family, etc)
You want your Legendary in 2-3 months, prepare to quit your job or school for that.
SO CAN YOU PLEASE stop complaining about not having it in 3 months please? 9 more months to go for you…
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I didn’t ever say I wanted easy mode legendary after all I have all 3 gifts which has taken a lot of time effort and gold/farming so now I need a precursor. So people whom bought dusk for 100-200g a while back are telling me not to complain , they are not the ones faced with the rising prices.so has that got anything to do with “difficulty”? Or getting a precursor with minimal attempts at the forge again reference to “difficulty”? Having time to be at lost shore event for the chest the only difficulty for me was being online at a time that i couldnt possibly be online.
If anything I will have twice the workload to earn my legendary over someone that has more time or more luck than me. So no it has nothing to do with being difficult to get and everything to do with circumstances.
Only because you didnt buy your precursor cheap like some other players did give you right to complain? You know what ? I didnt become rich like those people after revolution. So I have now right to demand things to cost less? … hmm
you will have your scavanger hunt soon, so whats wrong? The game is up for 3 months and you want your legendary now even when it was supposed to take a year and you think Anet will listen to you? Hope not
Legendary weapons are ment to be LONG TERM gold. Something that takes year for avarage player.
You are all chasing Dusk, The Legend, Dawn, which are the most demanded precursors and thats is the reason why the price is so high.
Those who are selling precrors know that YOU want them so badly that players will eventually buy them. If there wasnt so big demand for these 3 precrursors, price would drop.
High demand = High price
Players set up the price. Stop complaining here. Your scavanger hunt is comming .. soo shh
P.S.: I have a friend that have EVERY single gift for his Bifrost, Legendary staff for like one month .. hes only missing the precursor and hes saving up the money for it. But he doesnt complain about the prices, he knows that the price for the best, the most unique, and rares weapon skin ingame.
Legendary weapons are not called Legendary so you can call for nerfs and lower prices. Work for it, I bought mine precursor also and I didnt need to create topic about me wanting it cheaper so I can have the legendary now.
P.S.: I see players with Legendary weapons everywhere .. IN 3 MONTHS OF THE GAME. I just went AC with ranger that got Dreamer, full cultural tier 3 and also ascended back and he got 600 hours played.
How much easy you want Legendary to be? Level 80 today, Legendary next week/month? Come on.
This would be fixed with recipe for silver doubloon. Nothing else needed.
I love gw1 and gw2 very much. I have played 7000hrs and about 1000hrs respectively. Lately however I have only been logging on a couple days a week, doing the daily in WvW to get some of the karma+badges I need. I’ve actually gone back and been playing D3 lately (sad, right? i know). I realized three things really irk me.
1) LFG for dungeons – really needs to be fixed. With so many people on so many different fractal levels and no one wanting to do a lvl lower than theirs, I waste hours trying to find a group, often just giving up in the end.
2) Precursors – For those not lucky enough to get a drop from the ancient karka or to have enough gold to buy their precursor at the time, it seems like they have to choose: do you want to get your legendary? or do you want to get your ascended gear? Because most people can’t get both. This wouldn’t be a problem if they implemented the ‘scavenger hunt’ to obtain precursors like they promised, instead of handing out precursors to 10% of the community during the ancient karka event, and stiffing the other 90% of the community with lvl 78 exotics.
3) Drop rates – During the lost shores event weekend, fractals was raining rares on me. Which was great, especially since they don’t have a gold reward at the end like other dungeons. After the event was over, they OBVIOUSLY nerfed the drop rates into the ground. When you design a game that requires an epic amount of grinding at the end-game, then nerf drop rates and introduce diminishing returns on everything, you’re going to piss a lot of people off.
I will continue to play the game semi-regularly, but until these things are fixed I don’t really feel like I’m getting anywhere when I log in.
Post if you agree/disagree
TL;DR: If they fixed LFG system, made precursors reasonable to achieve, and stopped nerfing every method of making gold, I would play A LOT more.
Do anyone force you to play? Why do you need to create another topic like this, players like you did already created them, post there.
I dont have problem with finding the dungeon group and I ve done 250+ explorable modes. But ye LFG tool wont hurt.
For your second problem about precursors, legendary, ascended. Legendary weapons are ment to be crafted by 5% of players .Yes 5% … So why do you think that Areanet should help everyone everyone to craft one? Why do you think that everyone should have Legendary? Either you gor Legendary, collect material and gold for months, years or just go Ascended if you dont care and btw are you at 30+ Fractals already? Because what is the reason you to want ascended back pack or 30+ Agony resistance
Last your problem is about the drops. Dont see any problem here … FRACTALS are not to be some dungeon that you run for rares, exotics. They were created for players who to progress something, those who wants to go the highest difficulty possible. I dont think they should give you 10 rares for one dungoen here. Anyways my friend dropped 7 rares and 1 exotic from fractal daily 30.
If you dont want to play just keep it to yourself man, dont need to create another topic for this one.
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Wow, the "kitten you, got mine, " is strong in here. Reminds me of all those idiots whining about inscriptions ruining the value of their weapons when Nightfall was released.
karma =/= gold … they are two difference currencies and personally I dont want to see Cultural armor for karma.
If they make cultural armor cheaper or buyable by karma I will demand full refund.
Cultural armor should go for karma because cultural weapons do. Consistency.
Cultural tier 3 armor is so expensive because it should remain unique and rare armor. So not everyone will have one otherwise it would not be unique and rare at all.
So in other words, you don’t care about the way the skin looks at all, only that you can use it to feel superior to other players.
And my statement still stays. Cultural should always be purchasable only for gold. Thats it.
I DO CARE about the way the skin looks but making the cultural amor 3 more availible to anyone, making it easyer to obtain means it will be less rare, unique so it would it would become boring. It wouldnt worth it anymore if everyone second person would have it.
You dont see bentley everywhere do you? If you did, it would lost the uniqueness and you would rather go for ferari, masserati instead.
call me superficial or selfish, w/e but visual thing like expensive cloths, watches, etc. are about prestigue and about proving that you can afford them.
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Got my set after playing ~20 minutes a day for a month. I see no problem.
Really? I find that hard to believe… what exactly can you do in 20 minutes per day? You can probably run HOTW 1 or an AC path, but that’s already pushing it. You can’t really farm much in 20 minutes as well…
That’s a gold rate of 16 per hour (given you started out at 0)
I can do around 10-20 per day by farming cursed shore or by doing dungeons. If I was lazy and I didnt want to make gold hardcore I could still easyly make 3-4 gold(2-3 hours max) per day by playing casualy.
So if you count .. 130g / 3,5g = 37 days tops (for casuals) and that is reasonable amount of days to buy your full cultural tier 3 armor, one of the most unique and rare armor in-game. In mmorpg that you should play for years what is 30-40 days? NOTHING
Players who want to buy cultural tier 3 armor (the most rare and prestigue armor ingame atm) in one week, legendary weapons in one month should reconsider if MMORPGs are for them because I dont think so.
It should take weeks, if not even months to buy cultural amor tier 3 and it should take months or even years to craft a Legendary weapons. WHEN YOU START to understand this, everything will be easyer
You dont buy Bentley after one month in work do you?
But you play 3 hours max per day. He plays 20 minutes!
Who cares maybe hes saying the truth or maybe hes flipping or buying gems or maybe plays more than hes saying, w/e
Point is, its not hard to buy full culural armour in month or less (for avarage, casual players). Its doable with some effort.
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In the latest patch, steeltide got stealth nerf. I have to say good job….you don’t want us to farm, and you keep nerfing every single money/material source. What’s the point for this? t6 materials for a legendary is just insane if you want to buy it from TP. If you continue to do this, I’ll realy consider buying further expansions…..also fix your game don’t do content patches in every month, no point in it.
Nerfs are because a lot of people are gaining gold far too quickly and thereby ruining the economy. Creates a big divide between the people that know the “tricks” and people that don’t. Suddenly, you have 50% of the population not being able to afford things on TP, while the other 50% boast about how easy it is to get money and slander those players who are struggling.
Once you start playing to “pay the bills” it’s the begining of the end. For those that are rich, they will never see the problem. But they are killing the game with a slow death.
Personally, if I play and have fun, but don’t get enough gold to “keep up with the curve” then I will eventually quit. Repeating Steeltide, over and over isn’t fun, it’s grinding. Anet promised that this game would not be like that.
prices are stable now or even lower than few days ago
You ll see another small drops in prices soon, you bet.
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Do you realize that when they’ll raise the level cap (and/or add new legendaries), which they already said they will with an expansion, current legendaries will be totally useless, right?
That has not been the stated design intent.
Items of the Legendary tier are intended to always be BIS. That’s been explicitly stated.
Level 80 legendary will be always BiS… for a level 80. That doesn’t mean there won’t be level 90 legendaries.
Of course, they might do exactly that, and keep bumping them not only in tiers, but also in levels. If so, then Legendaries are definitely not optional for only 5% of game population, but mandatory for anyone that is interested in long-term play.
Mandatory, not mandatory … Legendary are the most unique, rare and prestigue weapons in Guild Wars 2 EVER. If you plan to play for more than 2+ years what you expect ? You expect to craft this awesome looking weapon only in 1-2 months? YOu want 10 legendaries or what?
They are okey as they are now. Expensive as hell and also rare, unique and prestigue as hell. Exactly what they should be.
Doesnt matter if they will be only cosmetics or BiS.
Even if they were BiS as you said .. then it should take even more effort than now, you should sum up every ascended weapons released in the future, their effort required and then multiply it several times. Because Legendary worth 10x more …
So if one ascended weapon should take you month to craft and there are going to be 5 datadisc, Legendary weapons should take: 5(number of datadics)x1 month(required effort for one ascended weapon) x ‘’5?’’(Because its Legendary weapon) aaand here is how long it should take you to craft Legendary.
So if Legendary are going to be BiS and as you said mandatory (dont have to grind EVER again for next 5-10? years) .. It should take even more than one year to Achive such a mighty weapon.
Other mmorpgs have unique armors, weapons that can take up to 2-3 years to obtain. Legendaries in Guild Wars 2 are already kinda easy compared to another mmorpgs. Sadly
And you know that Legendary weapons WONT have Infusions slots? The main reason you want Ascended weapons btw …
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Different playstyles should be viable, the only one here seems to be to either play the TP or run certain other efficient ways again and again.
Not the “adventure” and “fun” I perceived from the manifesto.Not true.
All players have multiple options for getting gearred in exotics – karma, crafting, TP, random drops, dungeons, WvW. Literally there’s no reason any given person can’t find a way to get geared regardless of their situation; there’s your equality.
But a PvE’r can’t unlock PvP gear without actually PvPing. You can’t get WvW tokens without doing WvW, you can’t get a gift of exploration without exploring nor can you get dungeon prestige skins without beating the relevant dungeons; some things are not made to be equal, prestige titles and armour are a way of wearing your achievements on your sleeve and each set of armour; be it WvW, Ascalon catacombs or T3 cultural have different criteria for earning it.
Exactly this. You want cultural tier 3 armor for karma?
What someone else come here and complains and says:
I want every dungeon set for gold/karma/wvw badges.
I want wvw gear for gold/karma/dungeon tokens.
I want karma sets for gold/wvw/dungeon tokens.
I want legendary for … Oh wait I dont, I already crafted one, normal way
You get my poin right?
Everything is set up the way it is for reason and you people shouldnt just expect to come on forums, complain about something that only ’’you’’ dont like and demand change so it fits ’’your’’ playstyles
Cultural tier 3 armor is so expensive because it should remain unique and rare armor. So not everyone will have one otherwise it would not be unique and rare at all.
Same goes for Legendary weapons, you know why a are they so expensive and all? Because only 5% should ever craft them, the most dedicated players in Guild Wars 2. Yes there are always 10x more dedicated players than you. For instance I have 1200 hours played in GW 2 atm.
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karma =/= gold … they are two difference currencies and I dont want to see Cultural armor for karma.
If they make cultural armor cheaper or buyable by karma I will demand full refund.
I can make topics where I complain and rage too you know
Why would you, according to you you make enough to buy yourself a piece every day?
Different playstyles should be viable, the only one here seems to be to either play the TP or run certain other efficient ways again and again.
Not the “adventure” and “fun” I perceived from the manifesto.Anyways, I’m not here to argue with you and please go ahead with making any topic you desire
Why? Because I did not put effort into someting that is going to be dumped down only because of some whiny players.
You want it? Work for it like everyone does.
Different play styles? You make karma and gold always at the same time but different ratios. You want to buy Cultural armor for karma? Okey but make it cost 700-900k karma for full set.
You want to buy Cultural armor only because you think it will be easyer to farm that required karma, you want shortcut. You want it easyer so you dont need to put such an effort for something so rare and unique like is cultural armor tier 3.
Thats all what it is.
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Got my set after playing ~20 minutes a day for a month. I see no problem.
Really? I find that hard to believe… what exactly can you do in 20 minutes per day? You can probably run HOTW 1 or an AC path, but that’s already pushing it. You can’t really farm much in 20 minutes as well…
That’s a gold rate of 16 per hour (given you started out at 0)
Likely didn’t play much, and dropped a precursor in the Karka event…
Do I see another jealous players? I did buy my cultural tier 3 set 2 months ago. I did make money by leveling, selling mystic weapons for profit and running dungeons, cursed shore. No luck, no exploits no buying golds.
It was easy and I could buy myself another cultural tier 3 in 3-4 weeks if I wanted to but now I am focusing on WvW after I did craft my Legendary
You are just complaining about somethig beeing too hard or immposible meanwhile there are hundereds of players that achieved those things without any exploits or something.
Just because someone is better player and know more about the game than you do doesnt mean you have right to complain here. Its not Arenanets fault
considering you could simply earn gold in-game
goodluck with that
Are you kidding? Prices are inflated, it’s a seller’s market out there.
If you are going to farm, now is the time.
Nah. Resellers are just going to scoop the majority up and sell it for a higher price later. I’m happy for them that they found something they like to do and have nothing against it, but they are not doing anyone a service either.
This game revolves a bit too much around the TP, I for one are becoming increasingly irked by it and will refrain from using it.
I’m all for different options, opening up cultural armour for karma sounds fair, it’s not taking anything away from people who make their money by standing at the TP most of the time.
karma =/= gold … they are two difference currencies and personally I dont want to see Cultural armor for karma.
If they make cultural armor cheaper or buyable by karma I will demand full refund.
I can make topics where I complain and rage too you know
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Got my set after playing ~20 minutes a day for a month. I see no problem.
Really? I find that hard to believe… what exactly can you do in 20 minutes per day? You can probably run HOTW 1 or an AC path, but that’s already pushing it. You can’t really farm much in 20 minutes as well…
That’s a gold rate of 16 per hour (given you started out at 0)
I can do around 10-20 per day by farming cursed shore or by doing dungeons. If I was lazy and I didnt want to make gold hardcore I could still easyly make 3-4 gold(2-3 hours max) per day by playing casualy.
So if you count .. 130g / 3,5g = 37 days tops (for casuals) and that is reasonable amount of days to buy your full cultural tier 3 armor, one of the most unique and rare armor in-game. In mmorpg that you should play for years what is 30-40 days? NOTHING
Players who want to buy cultural tier 3 armor (the most rare and prestigue armor ingame atm) in one week, legendary weapons in one month should reconsider if MMORPGs are for them because I dont think so.
It should take weeks, if not even months to buy cultural amor tier 3 and it should take months or even years to craft a Legendary weapons. WHEN YOU START to understand this, everything will be easyer
You dont buy Bentley after one month in work do you?
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MMORPGs always involve farming, repeating content. ALWAYS.
Farming is not synonymous with grind.
Repeating content is not synonymous with grind.
The replay value of content is something MMOs need to be concerned about for what should be obvious reasons.
If grind is to be avoided, I think this game needs to have its replay value increased quite a bit.
Arenanet never said there is no grind involved in Guild Wars 2.
I believe, “We don’t make grindy games” is the direct quote?
They said you dont have to grind/farm to be on pair with everyone else (stat wise)
Which doesn’t appear as though it’ll be the case for me, and I’ve already put a lot of time into this game. The game’s replay value is going to run out before I get “geared up”. And I won’t grind. So that’ll be the end of the road for me, unless some serious adjustments are made.
Whatever
I just hopes Areanet see how many players already have Legenary weapons and Ascended gear and just ignore the rest lazy or unpatient players who complains about everything.
Cya guys, my last post at this post.
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3. Play the game normally, and collect what’s needed over a long period of time.
Play the game normally, what does this even mean?
I am confused about what this, how does it work? How do you play the game “normally”?
If you do 100% map completion you won’t get all the 250 stacks of t6 mats you need. Not even close. What other “normal” stuff is there to do? Wander around in Orr? Kill Jormag 1,000,000x? Stand around bored in LA?
Hey good luck with making your OWN mmorpg
I would definitely play that one, infinite content. Every day new dungeon, every day new map and story
Nice. I am really looking forward
It looks to me that you never played any mmorpg before. MMORPGs always involve farming, repeating content. ALWAYS. And many people enjoy it, like myself.
Arenanet never said there is no grind involved in Guild Wars 2. They said you dont have to grind/farm to be on pair with everyone else (stat wise) but if you want the best, the most unique and the most rare weapon (Legendary) you have to WORK HARD for it.
So please try to understand this.
I’ve played a lot of MMOs numbering into the 50+, and these kind of comments come from the stinking bodies of dying MMOs. It’s that desperate hope and longing for something to live. That denial of the facts, that tell you when a MMO is really under siege. I’ve seen these kinds of posts before, and I see them popping up all over this board. Those posts of denial, all the way up until they pull the plug.
Can you please tell me those mmorpgs without repeating content please? Or we are talking about some Single player games like Mass effect?
I played only Aion, WoW, Swtor, Lineage, GW 1, Tera, Warhammer online, Rift, Lotro, AoC, Vanguard and few more.
and btw … I enjoy repeating content. I do enjoy running same dungeons over again for armor, weapon drops, etc. I also enjoy farming gold and collecting material and I think these are one of the biggest parts of MMORPGs. In fact, these are the major reasons why I play mmorpgs.
I dont care about vertical progression so thats is why I play Guild Wars 2. Everything I do is for skins and those are optional. You dont like farm/repeating content? So dont go for skins that requires it
By the way. You dont need to grind in Guild Wars 2 ever. Just stop beeing unpatient wanting your Legendary weapon in 2 months instead of year that it suppose to take.
Doing 2-3 dungeon per day and then maybe one hour of cursed shore is not grind by far
This way you can get your Legendary in year or so and that how Areanet wants you to do it.
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It’s not about making obtainment easier.
It’s about making the path to obtainment more engaging, so that we don’t even notice how long the path is.
If obtaining X is intended to take a year, then there better be enough content to keep me entertained for that year. Otherwise, forget X, and I won’t be around for the next paid expansion.
Legendary weapons are supposed to be crafted by around 5% total player base. Why should Arenanet spend tons of money to create some unique content for 5% of player base? That is riddiculous.
Legendary weapons are just UNIQUE WEAPONS. They are not content, they are not story involved, nothing .. You go for it only when you want the super uber skin, but you need to put required effort in !!
3. Play the game normally, and collect what’s needed over a long period of time.
Play the game normally, what does this even mean?
I am confused about what this, how does it work? How do you play the game “normally”?
If you do 100% map completion you won’t get all the 250 stacks of t6 mats you need. Not even close. What other “normal” stuff is there to do? Wander around in Orr? Kill Jormag 1,000,000x? Stand around bored in LA?
Hey good luck with making your OWN mmorpg
I would definitely play that one, infinite content. Every day new dungeon, every day new map and story
Nice. I am really looking forward
It looks to me that you never played any mmorpg before. MMORPGs always involve farming, repeating content. ALWAYS. And many people enjoy it, like myself.
Arenanet never said there is no grind involved in Guild Wars 2. They said you dont have to grind/farm to be on pair with everyone else (stat wise) but if you want the best, the most unique and the most rare weapon (Legendary) you have to WORK HARD for it.
So please try to understand this.
The whole point of these nerfs, which are intentional without a doubt, is that you spend more rl money on their piece of crap gem store. No subs so they have to sucker you in some how.
Very transparent, but not very smart. People don’t spend money on a game they don’t enjoy.
I agree with you 120% on this but I’m just saying what their sick mind state is. The “devs” have taken a game with such great potential and turned it into a piece of stinking crap.
That is your oppinion and if you are still playing something that is stinking crap for you its really sad.
I have 1200 hours play in Guild War 2, I crafted my Juggernaut yesterday and I enjoy the game really a lot. Its one of the best mmorpg I have played for last 9 years
and I played almost every one released
Dont like it? No one is forcing you to play
At least I hope no one does
I understand your opinions, and respect them. But there a few ppl who actually wants to speed up the process for the legendary, like me, but since lost shores the prices skyrocket, farming places gettin nerfed etc….I don’t think this is soo hard to understand. But meh….it’s maybe me getting old and whine about everything…and btw I do enjoy the game, but there are problems with it(for me at least).
So only because you are unpatient and you want to speed up the whole process they should do that? You are joking right? That is just ridiculous
Well they allowed it for the ones who already has it, why is the discrimination please explain. Also what the hell are you talking about? Steeltide was farmable since start…..and now they removed it for no reason. I don’t ask for über drops man….I wan’t back steeltide, and don’t want further nerfs on income sources.
They did not allowed it to anyone. The market is always evolving so at the release of the game it was obvious that prices will be lower than now. THERE WAS 10X LOWER DEMAND FOR EVERYTHING. If you were smart enought like those players you could buy your materials cheaper too
Now you have 10x higher demand for everything + no bots, so the prices are naturally higher. Its simple, just go study something about economy pls.
Higher demand = Higher prices.
Its like if you were complaining in real life that your COUNTRY should give you now the same opportunities to become rich like people had 20 years ago after revolution when it was 10x easyer to become rich.
Also Arenanet did said that players are achieving Legendary weapons faster than expected so Its natural that they did nerf few things to make everything balanced.
Some opportunities are time limited and you cant just complain afterwards just because you didnt used them.
This is just not how the world works. Why do I need to explain this to someone .. I guess all those PC games fault.
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I understand your opinions, and respect them. But there a few ppl who actually wants to speed up the process for the legendary, like me, but since lost shores the prices skyrocket, farming places gettin nerfed etc….I don’t think this is soo hard to understand. But meh….it’s maybe me getting old and whine about everything…and btw I do enjoy the game, but there are problems with it(for me at least).
So only because you are unpatient and you want to speed up the whole process they should do that? You are joking right? That is just ridiculous.
I bet there are tons of players that would like to speed up everything. Have 80 in one day, have full exotic in few hours and more .. THAT IS NOT HOW IT WORKS.
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In the latest patch, steeltide got stealth nerf. I have to say good job….you don’t want us to farm, and you keep nerfing every single money/material source. What’s the point for this? t6 materials for a legendary is just insane if you want to buy it from TP. If you continue to do this, I’ll realy consider buying further expansions…..also fix your game don’t do content patches in every month, no point in it.
They dont want you to farm your legendary in 2 months. It is supposed to by long term goal =1 year for instance.
If you want to buy it from TP its your fault so no reason to complain. Go farm material instead using TP as shortcuts …
Someone already said this. But it looks like whoever is complaining about HIGH TP prices is just mad because he cant use this shortcut to craft his Legendary. You are not supposed to buy everything from TP you know?
Please just dont create another topic like this, we already have plenty of them.
In a no grind game getting the max weapon is a year? Yeah, that makes no sense at all. “There are enough of these posts” because many people are greatly displeased.
Do you NEED a legendary? Legendary was there as the ultimate goal skin that only a small dedicated number of players are supposed to have. If everyone got one it would be pointless. I’m close to full world explore (94%). That’s one of my goals. Stopped with that one because I’m leveling more chars up. I want a level 80, 400 in jewelling character, am still lacking a 400 armorsmith and 400 leatherworker (my bf provides the weapons, so I am responsible for gearing us up in armor). I will want to achieve that first. Will I get a legendary ever? Maybe, who knows? That goal is too long term for me at this point in time. But you know what? I’m not worried about it! I’m having fun with the game and I don’t need a skin to show off how big is my kitten.
Totally agree with Mirta on this one