Guild Wars 2

Zen.2450:

I hate anyone who brings up the ~5% argument in support of the current requirements of making a legendary.

Let me set you straight, from Steam statistics, usually only about 5% of players ever complete a game in the first place. So really, legendaries should be for someone who completes the game, namely does all the dungeons, explores all the land, completes the story line, and a few of the other good ones from the OP post.

Legendaries should not be for people who grind gold and materials all day for 5 hours everyday. They’re a reward for sticking with it and completing the game, not for grinding. They need a serious revamp. Especially the RNG element of the precursor. (Mats is a RNG matter as well, but you can still get them regularly, but they need fixing too)

Doest matter what you hate or like, you are just one player among millions. Clearly you have your oppinion, but as you can see. Developers agree with him more than with you.

Legendary weapons are and always be luxury weapon, something that only small portion of players will achieve, the most rich and most playing players. End of discussion.

And thats how it should be, if you ask me.

The whole Guild Wars 2 content can be achieved easyly, its easy to complete story, do all dungeons, have 100% map. Every casual can do that in few weeks, months. Legendary weapons are for Hardcore players, dunno why you cant understand it?

Many players are satisfied with the way legendaries are obtained now. Only because you are not, doesnt mean they have to change anything.

I am happy that I am one of the 5% play base and that legendaries are about farming, gold and also about the mastering every aspect of the game. I will be also the first player in my guild to achieve this goal, there are about 5 more players who are close to finish their legendaries too. But I know this, the rest of the guild is not jealous, they are not comming here and complaining about legendaries and how expensive and gold related they are.

Terkov.4138:

Hi.
As we all know, many ppl (me included) isn’t happy with available legendary weapons. It seems pretty obvious ANet will add more of them with some expansion… But if not?

What I mean: I’m pretty close to Kudzu, but I totally hate the skin. I’d get it just for “other” projectile and to simply know I can’t get “better” weapon. I could just stop now and wait for more legendaries, if I only knew there will be more – I need confirmation. Has anyone seen, and can link, ANet saying there will be more legendaries?

If you dont like Kudze why are you going for it? Legendary is only about skin, I would rather use some blue weapon if the skins is more appealing for me than legendary.

Yes they said they are going to add another legendaries but that could be in a year, who knows.

oZii.2864:

TWMagimay.9057:

Zenguy.6421:

From the Oxford English Dictionary:
Legendary: 1. of or connected with legends. 2. described or based on a legend. 3. remarkable enough to be the subject of legends.

So, which one of those exactly implies the way to obtain a legendary item? If you trip on Excalibur while walking your dog…does that make the sword itself any less legendary? No, it doesn’t. Because its status is based on the legend behind it not the way you got it. I think you should reread the definition you gave yourself and think why your post makes no sense.

Spot on +1

Zenguy.6421:

The achievements system is right there, all it needs is to be hooked up. Let any master crafter create the item, but you can’t equip it until your character has the necessary achievements. That would also allow ArenaNet to create specific quests and achievements that would mean that it truly means something to wield these items.

Do that and Legendary items will deserve their Legendary title. Until then, legendary items will remain merely expensive end-game gloss.

Where is the suggestion in your post besides Acheivements which is really vague. This is the same as all the Recipe precursor threads that don’t say much except give me a recipe without thinking about the fact that materials will rise in price so it changes nothing but give you something you can equip.

So you say achievement and I’ll say youtube and still grind regardless.

I have twilight and for me map competition was a grind cause that is not what I am into really. I’d rather farm plinx and chat with everyone there that is after the same thing karma then go and do map competition. Also does farm=grind? I think grind is just thrown around to much sometimes but more specifically to what you said.

If they tie it to achievements there will be videos popping up in 2 weeks time on how to get those achievements in about half the time. So how would YOU make it tied to achievement while still making it somewhat difficult to obtain?

Agree with you guys

I dont care if I run into free Bentley when walking for pizza … call it lucky or not legendary. The car itself is still legendary, it doesnt matter how you gain it .. Same goes for Legendary weapons, no one cares if you got it by farming one spot for 1000 hours or buying gems. Everyone envy you

Milennin.4825:

Dogblaster.6713:

I want to see how you deal with Fractals 20+ difficulty .. gonna also cry about making it easier?

No need to. Just grind Ascended gear to win in Fractals.

ascended gear? You mean rings and back ?

Altair.6109:

who exactly are you? Calling what should and what shouldnt be in the game? Developres decide, they created this game.

~look familiar?

U stalking me or what ? … lol

Anyway. Developers did remove token from chests before and I dont think they want players to farm just first bosses

Hello.

Please remove these additional tokens you get from every chest in dungeons. Players just farm Arah first boss in rout 3 .. reseting dungeon every 10 minutes.

If Arah is hard for them to complete normal way, they dont deserve to gain any tokens what so ever.

This should NOT be allowed.

Thank you

Legendaries are already done this way. kitten expensive weapons. They wont gonna change it and if they do, I will rage so hard and demand refund for every gold I did spend.

Amonde Daneren.2380:

The reason progress is character bound is to promote the design philosophy behind the game. This includes: no grind; letting the player have fun; letting the player play the way they want to.

It’s quite obvious actually.

What a troll … again .. sarcasm for the win ey ?

And yes fractal difficulty is soulbound so you are not able to run difficulty 20 with your alt which has no gear, etc.

Start farming and stop complaining. I am okey with T6 material prices, they are top tier, should be expensive.

But If more players did farm instead of buying it from TP. Prices would go down by a lot.

This high price is only because there are no bots now and no one is farming the mats so you have high deman, low supply.

And yes, I agree .. precursors for free was bad idea. Dont know who came up with that but he deserves to be Donkey punched in the nuts.

tigirius.9014:

nope got to agree with the devs on this one. greed is ugly in any reality.

I hope they increase the rare drops next and make it possible to always get at least 1 ecto per rare salvage because it gets out of hand when you limit these items too much. I’m a farmer as well but I don’t farm for raw mats to be sold i make things from them for myself for my guildies. Please keep increasing the drop rates and make MF affect chest contents.

Really? Guaranteed 1 ecto per salvage?

Thats what you have black lion salvage kit for .. If you love your guildies and friends so much, buy few of these kits with gems then

NO FOR the MF and NO for the MF apply to the chest ever. That would just encourage players to wear magic find gear in dungeons even more. kitten I would need to kick even 2x more players than now .. But It can be fun …

What is your gear? Magic find?
Yes …
Bye bye … kick inc
next please … LF1M

What is y…. ?
..
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xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

With Lodestones appearing in chests, prices have bottomed out on them. It makes the game way too easy for people. I have seen a lot of whining on forums about rising prices. But there needs to be incentives for people to farm.

Lodestones used to be nice to farm. Now they’re not even going to be worth the effort to open up the temple.

It seems like people whined their way into making endgame content ultra easy to obtain which leaves people who like to have stuff to do like farming with dwindling options other than killing trash mobs in hopes of T6 mats.

Devs should strongly consider removing Lodestones and valuable items out of chests, and let people who want to farm for profit farm for profit. There’s no reason to screw up a decent part of the economy because of whiners.

Agree here ..

I dont want to play the game where farming useless and everyone just buy everything from TP …

Its just sad how Arenanet proved to us that everyone can just cry out his demans and arenanets listen.

We want cheaper precursors … Check, you have them free from the event
We want cheaper lodestones … Check, now they are dropping from dungeon chest

Whats next thing people are going to complain about? Too much Icy runestones required for legendary or 80 levels too much to level up? So just drop icy runetone and levels from the magic chest again?

Arenanet please stay to your standarts and dont just give everything for free .. thats exactly why I quit wow

P.S.: GUYS, DECEMBER EVENT INC: Everyone prepare for free precursors and big decrease in prices.

Agony is there for you to progress. What did you expect? Reach max difficultry in a few days after realease? It should take you weeks, months of progressing the dungoen

@Milennin and who exactly are you? Calling what should and what shouldnt be in the game? Developres decide, they created this game.

Geekcrux.1245:

Or allow people to get an increase to their MF if the scale down to other people’s level. Every level you jump down to help is 1% increased MF. The person still could not progress to higher tiers, but wouldn’t be wasting time if they jumped down to help a new guy out for a few hours with anywhere from 1% to 20% increased MF buff.

Why are you talking about MF anyway. MF does NOT apply to CHESTS only to mobs.

Another one again? Seriously .. we have enought of these topics already.

Legendary weapons have unique legendary looking skin, they are expensive and they should be EXPENSIVE. Only the most dedicated players, who are willing to play countless hours should have them.

So if you want legendary, you should start farming and not ask the devs to change them.

I am nearly done with my first legendary and I am happy with the current state.
TBH I would already have my legendary if I didnt level up 6x 80 lvl .. what an Idiot I was ..

And yes … they deserve their Legendary title, because they look LEGENDARY

Arshay Duskbrow.1306:

AndrewMcLeod.3857:

players do have the choice to play the game in the way they want.

I want to play the game in a way that does not require me to grind for a new tier of gear and slot upgrades to replace what was previously the best available equipment. However, it seems I don’t have the choice to play the game that way anymore. Perhaps you could do something about that, please.

Game doesnt require you to grind for new tier of gear Ascended rings which drops in FoTM are random stats, I ve just got ring without power and kinda useless for me and I only equip it in FoTM. .

So no one else is forcing you to grind for the best gear possible. Only YOURSELF. There are thousands of players who dont care about best gear or ascended gear.

I am Elitist/HC players and I play 8+ hours a day and I dont care about ascended gear nearly as much as you guys.. But YOU guys here, its like only thing you care is Ascended gear and how you MUST HAVE IT. Even when you claim you dont want it here.

You are all just making too much fuss about something that is trivial. This Ascended gear is usually only usefull in dungeons. And I know it better than you, Cause i already have Ascended gear in my inventory.

Well yes.

There is bag mystic forge recipe. Its 250x T6 material, 50x ectoplasm, 1x the ascended trophy (from FoTM) and 40x crystal. Just google it, its everywhere. 1 vial of condensed mist essence
50 ectoes
40 crystals
250 t6 fine crafting materials

For the rings, they drop only as bonus reward from FoTM at 10+ difficulty (with random stats) and you need them only for infusion slot so you can continue further in dungeon.

So I would not care about a ring if untill you want to progress the FoTM and just craft yourself a back, if you want.

AndrewMcLeod.3857:

This is something that existed prior to ascended gear, and was something that we saw happen all the time in GW1, even without any sort of gear progression. Some players, typically people who play the game a lot, tend to only want to play with other players that play like them. They require some sort of proof to get into their party, whether it be displaying your Lightbringer Title, equipping or linking some type of gear, or using some other method of showing that you have already done and are experienced with the content. While ascended gear might be the new excuse, this behavior happens regardless.

While this is not really something that we want to encourage, players do have the choice to play the game in the way they want. We can’t force those players to be all-inclusive in who they invite to the parties they create, and to be honest, doing so would probably make people even more unhappy than they are now, and lead to a lot of undesirable behavior.

Yep. Exactly what I think.

You cant force HC, elitist players to not be elititst and play with casuals. Even if you dont have ascended gear, they ask for 3000+ achievements points etc.

I am hc/elitist player with 1000 hours played and I dont care about ascended gear or vertical progression. When I run dungeons I care about skill and how good players are with their characters. I want to run with players who knows what to do, with players which have same experience me like me. Yes I choose whoever I invite, yes I kick those who slack, go afk at bosses or run dungeons in MF gear etc. I am always tryeing to perform my best in dungeons and I expect the same from the rest of the players I run with.

I dont get players complaining about beeing excluded from something, either because they dont have time to play as much so they cant keep up, etc. You have a lot of casual non-HC/Elitist players out there.. A LOT .. So group up together.

The FoTM, ascended gear didnt change anything. I expected players to know lupicus when I was creating my group for it, etc.
All what ascended gear brings is pve progression and also bigger challange. No one is forcing you to do FoTM difficulty 10+. Those are for HC PvE players and thats where you need Ascended gear. Nowhere else.

And I am telling you, I will never require some Ascended gear for Arah, AC etc. dont see any point in that. I just require Infusion for FoTM 11+
If there is someone who requires it for AC, Arah, etc .. thats just a douchbag and ignore him.

P.S. I recieved my firsnt Ascended ring today. And I tell you what, I didnt even care. I run FoTM for drops, fun and maybe one day fractal weapon but my main goal is now legendary. Not some stats.

Shpongle.6025:

You will never see those 250G or those dusks ever again. Welcome to Guild Wars.

Also, I don’t know how you can get 250gold.That’s astonishing, I’ve collected about 11 gold and I’ve been playing since August 28th. I don’t even know what dusks are, I’m lvl 63.

If that is the case, I would just quit GW 2 forever. But I think you are only trolling here.

Btw I have leveled myself 6x 80 lvl and made like 300-400g already. But thats because I have 1000 hours played.

to OP. Good luck with your ticket I hope you get it solved

FoTM is build around a progress. Progress of your character. You also dont have story dungeons, map completion account bound, do you? Just achievements ..

All those drops are account bound, so … what is this all about?

Well the chest shouldnt drop precursors at first place .. I am not mad I didnt drop precursor myself cause I bought it month ago.

But precursor should drop only for those who wants it and they are aiming for the legendary, not from darm random one time event.

I have 1000 hours played in guild wars 2 and yet, some random player that dont know what legendary did drop precursor from chest and he has more gold than I farmed in month .. really Well done arenanet

Just to be clear, I didnt ask for the new dungeon and I hate vertical progression.

I am finishing my legendary and after that I will aim for Heavy Tier 3 Sylvary Cultural Amor. So I dont care about the new dungeon that much but I think you have nothing to complain here. You are just mad because you are left behind …

This is my last post in this topic. Cya

I just dont understand how anyone can throw argument like: ‘’I have life, I have to work and I have 10 kids so I cant play that much’’

And what about players like me and my friends who play 6-10+ hours a day (atm at 1000 hours played)
I ve done 200+ explorable dungeons and have nothing to do in PvE, I had to create several 80 lvl characters and still I have no use for tokens anymore.

The new dungeon is for those who dont have 10 dogs, 10 kids, 10 wifes and 20 works. For those who want to progress something. Not gear, cause I dont care about ascended gear at all. But because of fractal weapons and rare, exotic reward and mainly challange at high difficulties like 15+.

You cant blame NO ONE but yourself for not having enought time.

First you complained that full gear from dungoen like Arah, AC is grind … Legendary is grind and now Fractal is another grind. Well you see. MMORPGs are about a grind, what arenanet did was just marketing what every company intend to make.

P.S.: Guild Wars 1 had grind too, go try to farm yourself Obsidian armor .. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Obsidian_armor

I agree with one thing, give other dungeons same loot like Fractals have. Rares and exotics from chests !!!

Urxx.6840:

Dogblaster.6713:

Sorry .. This is an mmorpg.

Those who are casuals will always be behind and those who playes 10+ hours a day will always be ahead, having better and nicer gear.

Thats what mmorpgs are about.

Stop complaining about you having real life stuff to do and you cant play a game. Its not AREANETs fault you cant play the game as much as you want to.

FoTM was CLEARLY MADE FOR THOSE who want PROGRESS. For HC PvE players which play 10+ hours a day and having nothing to do in GW 2. . NO for casuals.

Really .. people these days complain about everything

That would be perfectly fine hadn’t ArenaNet attracted a lot of players explicitly promising what you just said would never happen in their game.

And the manifesto didn’t sound like pure marketing because if was backed by 7 years of proven track record.

Until now.

So they said that HC PvE players like me with 200+ explorable runs, almost finished legendary, 1000 hours player will not have any progression dungeon?

They created this dungeon for hc pve players so they have something to progress on, for a months. Every other dungeon out there can be done in hour.

I dont see why are you mad? Cause they add dungeon that was made for HC pve players who want progression? Well A lot of players loves it and those who dont or dont have time for it, here is news for you. Dont do it.

Manifesto … bha, this argmunt is already making me sick.

This dungeon did add grind but for those WHO wants it like me (1000 hours played) and if you expected no grind in MMORPG then you are nothing but fool, sorry. I love grind. And I am doing it for skins etc, not stats.

Hello.

I am pve player and I have done exporable dungeons about 200+ times and I have to say, the new dungeon is awesome btw. Well done. But one of the major things that makes players runs it all day are the rare and exotic drops. Yes drops.

I dont understand why dungeons like Arah, AC, CM and every expo dungeon drops lik e crap, nothing valuable like in Fractals when I find fractal easyer and I am at difficulty 10. Yes its getting harder but still the drops from 1-10 were 10x better than from any other explorable dungeon.

And for me who is finishing his legendary, reward is imporant thing so I would like to not be ’’forced’’ to run jus the most rewarding dungeon just because of it.

Now everyone just run fractals and everyone forgot about other dungeons. This is how you create content? Make something shiny and just make everyone ignore the rest?

I DONT care about ascended gear or etc. I care about the rare, exotic drops from almost every second chest in Fractal. You cant see nothing lilke this in other dungeons.

I think that other dungeons should drop equal items life fractal.

yes. For the Fractal weapons + all the rare and exotic drops.

Lysico.4906:

Normal player.. tons of hours..

I have a wife, kids and a job.. could not log in until tonight does to my daughter having her confirmation.. you know REAL life..

My 80 mesmer could not get a group for the new dungeon.. Everyone had to be level 7 or some odd crap to do it….

72 hours out of the loop and ZERO chance to get a group? This game talked about no grinding and you can’t take three days off at max level and not land a group now??

Sorry .. This is an mmorpg.

Those who are casuals will always be behind and those who playes 10+ hours a day will always be ahead, having better and nicer gear.

Thats what mmorpgs are about.

Stop complaining about you having real life stuff to do and you cant play a game. Its not AREANETs fault you cant play the game as much as you want to.

FoTM was CLEARLY MADE FOR THOSE who want PROGRESS. For HC PvE players which play 10+ hours a day and having nothing to do in GW 2. . NO for casuals.

Really .. people these days complain about everything

Its not ARENANETs problem you cant read to by honest.

They advertised this will be ONE-TIME event many times for a long time. And One-time means that it happens only once. So what are you pissed about?

All you are angry about is that you didnt get your epics or precursors. Well that happens when you miss something big.

You cant blame anyone else, but yourself.

And really, dont try something like: ‘’I was in work, I had ore important real life m things to do, etc’’ …

Yes .. only 3 players from my guild got the precursors. Our officer got Zap, another one got axe and the last precursor was torch.

And there were a lot of more players dropping the precursors.

Its not fair but thats how RNG works and I am used to it.

U were just unlucky. I didnt drop precursor too.

Just dont be jealous, one day you get yours precursor. I had to by it myself too.

Kain Francois.4328:

So good. Legendaries were ridiculous in the first place.

Since they nerfed Plinx, it makes sense that Karma should be obtainable in other ways.

I’m also a big fan of the dungeon update where each boss drops about 20s total if you use an Omnonberry Bar.

Plinx respawn time increase do not affect your speed of making karma almost in no way anyways. And… karma is easyer to obtain than the rest of the things required.

Legendary weapons are hard and really expensive? Yes. And they should be, its fine.

P.S.: MAGIC FIND does NOT apply to the chests. Only the loot from the mobs.

Btw I am not running new dungeon all over gain to get Ascended gear, I am running it to gain material and fractal weapon drops.

So its not about higher stats, but about the skin, loot.

Areanet could simply make ascended gear on pair with exotic and only add the infusion slot for pve progression. Problem solved

This will be my last post on this topic ever because I find this topic the most useless one ever.

You can curse about elitist player all you want. But you are just proving to everyone how desprite person you are. ‘Mommy, they dont want to playyyy with me … ’’

Normal person would just ignore hc/elitist players, create his own group and wont call them words for this dumb reason.

Stop beeing touchy and just accept the fact, there are probably better players than you.
I already did accept the fact .. Now its your turn.

Create your own party, add friends, join a guild. Please!

And by the way .. If you didnt know guys, GW 1 was A LOT about elitism. So you know.

JUST CREATE YOUR OWN PARTY. PROBLEM SOLVED.

Cyric.7485:

I don’t understand why this is a problem at all. Don’t like how someone is recruiting for their own group? Create your own group, problem solved. You can scoff and think you’re morally superior in your own little world of fancy candy canes and pink goblins riding unicorns with butterscotch clouds that rain chocolate hearts for all the kiddies because now it’s your group to do what you like with.

Play how you like, that’s the slogan, right?

This “elitism” only affects you because you refuse to take the initiative to put your own group together. So while you’re sitting on the sidelines judging that elitist jerk for having “crappy morals”, relax for a second and look in the mirror because at that moment you’re no better than what you perceive him to be now.

+1

Artemis Noir.3804:

While I can certainly understand that people prefer a smooth experience when grouping… I think some of the problem is that these experienced players have forgotten that once upon a time they were nubs too. Presumably friends, guild-mates and random strangers took the time to show them the ropes…..
Kara people.. karma.
What goes around should come around.

Just wow .. These arguments are sad.

Ostra.3927:

Dogblaster.6713:

So you know guys … FoTM and Asceded gear was created for players (HC PvE) who wants to progress pve. So if players want to progress it you bet they will be picky, I am hc pve player myself with about 200+ explorable dungeon runs and you bet I am really not inviting just some randoms with bad gear and no skills.

So again, just repeating. FoTM was created mainly for level 80 level HC players who wants to progress. So I dont see any reason to complain about elitism .. cause thats how it is.

So you bet that random/pug groups are going to have problems in this dungeons, you bet that players that want to finish every difficulty possible will ask for best players only. If you dont like it, make your OWN group and just run difficultry one with whoever you want.

I will make mine group of elitist players and nothing you can do about it.

LMAO.

Yet those of us that first heard about the gear stat increase were told “it wont be that bad, stop exaggerating” when we said this would be exactly what would happen.

The only problem is we were wrong… we expected it to be a few days… low and behold its just a few HOURS. LOL

Reap what you sow grind heads… reap what you sow.

If you hate it so much, create your OWN party and invite who ever you want.

If someone else is creating his own party, he can invite whoever he wants, If he wants only skilled players with 1000+ hours played. Its his choice. If he wants only 5x guardians, its his choice. If he wants only 5 russian players, its his choice because its HIS group.

BTW all this elitism is not about stats its about dungeon. I ve done the same in Arah, in AC, in CoE ..

You always want to run with best players / equivalent players. Its not about some gear treadmil btw.

It would be the same even if the FoTM dropped only skins.

I can also come here on forums and complain how many noobs plays mmorpgs and how i dont want them in my mmo .. What goes around comes around.

Irnhide.3428:

Just add “GearScore” in the game. So we don’t have to play with under geared kitten

Thanks in advance

I dont see your point here. Guild Wars is about skill more than about gear.

There are skilled and bad players. Ofcourse that skilled players want to run with skilled players and not carry over unskilled people, who die at every encounter.

Come on .. what are you angry here about?

Not beeing good enought? .. Dont get this

Zyro.7416:

Dogblaster.6713:

So STOP complaining about elitism here .. cause thats how it is.

its not complaining, not at all. i just want to say my word on this, and i am also curious on other people’s oppinion on this topic.

this is how i experience it;
those who are not ’’elite’’ cannot enjoy the game fully, cause they are being overlooked by many others. it makes players like me feel left out in some part of the game. we have a hard time to both join and create a party. seeing how it goes now, it’ll only goes downwards from here. this just makes me wonder why.

the game itself already scales everyone to thesame level, yet people want the best of the best for their party or its a no go. i see the way players are being treated as a big hastle, not as something to enjoy. for both sides.

Fully geared and traited level 80 is 2x more powerful than level 1-79 scaled to 80.

Then usually 80 lvl players have more experience already, usually I run with players with same experience/skill level like me and you BET there are bad players and good players.

You just cant expect someone like me who did so many expo runs, have 950 hours played to play with someone who didnt do even one expo yet, or its badly traited with full glass canon build.

So just let elitism/HC players play together. Casuals with casuals and bad with bad players.

Same goes in real life, you cant expect profession football, basketball .. etc players to just invite random unskilled player to play with them. And you have another hundereds similar examplers out there.

Cultural tier 3 price is totally Okey. 130g is reasonable for one of the most nicest armors in game. You need about 600-800g for legendary. What is 130g? NOTHING …

Just farm for it if you want it …

come on

So you know guys … FoTM and Asceded gear was created for players (HC PvE) who wants to progress pve. So if players want to progress it you bet they will be picky, I am hc pve player myself with about 200+ explorable dungeon runs and you bet I am really not inviting just some randoms with bad gear and no skills.

So again, just repeating. FoTM was created mainly for level 80 level HC players who wants to progress. So I dont see any reason to complain about elitism .. cause thats how it is.

So you bet that random/pug groups are going to have problems in this dungeons, you bet that players that want to finish every difficulty possible will ask for best players only. If you dont like it, make your OWN group and just run difficultry one with whoever you want.

I will make mine group of elitist players and nothing you can do about it.

Hello.

I love FoTM and you ve done really good job here but I am curious WHY there isnt any money reward ??? I need a lot of golds to complete my legendary .. and I would like to run FoTM knowing that I gain some silver (not including drop) for completing this dungeon either.

You get silvers for other dungeons, why not for FoTM?

Yes legendaries are over the top and they should be.
Yes legendaries are legendary grind and thats how it shoul be.

Only those who dedicate more time to playing Guild Wars than real life should have legendary.

Myself having 900 hours played I am on my way finishing my legedary (still a loooot of work) without any exploit or luck, I had to buy precursor on TP and I had to farm the gold.

If you want legendary NOW then you should start kitten playing more … 10+ hours like the rest of us

Legendary is not for everyone, its not for skilled players, is not for fans, its for the "no lifers’’ which plays GW more than anything.
Everyone can have his own legendary, its just takes time.

Stop complaining about how legendary weapons are hard to obtain, better start farming or get used to it

Ireniicus.2167:

Legendaries are stupidly difficult to obtain. I would have to turn it into a job for a year to afford one.

Legendary are for those who dedicate more time playing Guild Wars than real life.

When you see someone with legendary you should immidiately know, hes the one who plays for 10+ hours every day. Thats what legendary weapons are about.

Remember that.

Kana.6793:

The dungeon section of the forums has been largely full of “the dungeons are pointless, the dungeons aren’t rewarding, there’s no end-game, there’s no goal, dungeons don’t reward you for your time, dungeons are too hard to bother with for only a few silver and some junk items” for the last 2 months.

they could simply give those players more rewards in terms of more silver, bigger chance to drop lodestones, or buy them for tokens .. etc

All Areanet is doing is kittening up their game. Why they cant use all those resources used to this ascendent gear, etc. TO FIX kitten BUGGS, WHICH ARE EVERYWHERE.

‘’Guild Wars’’ dies the day they introduce item progression, atleast for me. friday

Vorch.2985:

It’s a RING…and BACKPIECE…my god, chill.

If you think this is gating, perhaps infusing armor in GW1 to handle the Mursaat was also gating…though I’m SURE that most of you wouldn’t think that.

they will add full armor and weapon too learn to read.

people are not complaining about infusion but about higher stats on these items than exotics have.

In gw 1 they had same stats

btw @wouw who said ascendent armor and weapons wont have runes and sigil slots ?

Mada.5319:

Naoko.7096:

MMO needs progression. If not, it’ll die as a limited game with no growth.

GW1 had ZERO gear progression and it’s still going on after 7 years. Your argument is invalid.

If gear progression is the only thing anet can do to keep people playing, then this game deserves to die.

yep .. guild wars 2 deserve to die if gear progression is the only thing areanet can come up with

Arnath.2319:

This Guild Wars 2 community makes me sick. Look at how you are all acting! Your behaving like pathetic spoilt children.

They have NOT broken any promises introducing Ascended gear, this is not a “gear treadmill” and it is not even a grind!

They are introducing TWO new items with this patch, a ring and a backpiece, the majority of you complainers will easily get those items within hours of the dungeon opening and you can all go back to your simple boring lifes until they introduce two more Ascended items a few months from now.

Its TWO items, only two, there is no grind there, stop pretending there is.

Ascended items are here to create the illusion of charector progression, it is gated on purpose so the very large amount of players who do enjoy a more stat increases progression with there hero will be encouraged to keep playing for a longer period of time.

Also, this is where the stat increase ends, if you payed attention to the blog you would noticed that this increase is a once off, yes they did say they would add more Ascended items but there stats what get any bigger than that.

I honestly hope all you complainers stop, take a deep breath, and think for a second instead of raging on the forums.

These changes are now inevitable, it is only TWO items to start with, that wont kill anyone, this wont be the end of the game. Life will continue i promise.

They also add full ascendent gear + weapons in future btw
Ascendent gear is the start of the treadmill .. because you will have to, on regural basis, upgrade your gear. Doent matter if once a year or once per 5 years.

This upgrade just proves that next expansion will gives us even more powerful items then the current ones = gear progression, not guild wars philosophy.

The exotic, which were the best from release should have been the best armor availible for entire lifetime of GW 2.

Naoko.7096:

People are really so paranoid here. 56 pages.
Don’t worry too much. -_-

- PLEASE Read This -

They still live by their philosophy. Why can’t you guys see that?
More importantly, what are you guys afraid of?

GW2: Ascended gears are just another tier. It’s not a requirement to have it to experience any future new content X/Y/Z. You can have fun with all in-game content and dungeons with any tier equipments. You don’t need to grind to experience content X/Y/Z.

Traditional MMO: Better gears are needed to experience new contents, story in PVE and raids. Those gears are a mandatory requirement to reap the fun of the the new content X/Y/Z. Players are forced to grind just to experience newer content.

They are so different.
Yet, it ponders me why can’t people see it.

You dont get it do you, current ascendent gear will last for how long ? 3 months? year?

Then they introduce even more poverful ascendent gear so its start again. THis is not their philosophy..

Guild Wars philosophy = you obtained best gear (aka exotic) and there will never ever better gear. stat wise. Even after 7years the armor you equiped at release, was the best.

Every player was equal, WvW vs PvE players, those who dont likes dungeons had the same gear in wvw like those who runs dungeon only.
After this update, those who run dungeons and have ascendent gear, they will have advantage over those who dont, in wvw .. .DO YOU GET IT?

stonejoint.8740:

Safer Saviour.9685:

I would like a dev to answer me one question – will Ascended be the only tier of rarity added to this game?

I can cope if this is the case. There is a gap between Exotics and Legendaries. Striving for exotics is a Short term goal, Legendaries a very, very long term one and something between them wouldn’t go amiss. That being said, if this is the gate to constantly having to upgrade my gear for every new release – particularly with this monthly update schedule Anet have set – then my feelings will change.

This a mid tier between exotic and legendary becasue acquiring extoics is too easy and legendarys too hard.

The whole point of Guild Wars was that best items ingame were obtained easy. And then you focus on visual skins.

This ruined the Guild Wars. This is not the game i bought anymore.

can we please have old developers team back? from GW 1 i mean? Thanks

No. Well done Areanet, fraud company!

Safer Saviour.9685:

I would like a dev to answer me one question – will Ascended be the only tier of rarity added to this game?

I can cope if this is the case. There is a gap between Exotics and Legendaries. Striving for exotics is a Short term goal, Legendaries a very, very long term one and something between them wouldn’t go amiss. That being said, if this is the gate to constantly having to upgrade my gear for every new release – particularly with this monthly update schedule Anet have set – then my feelings will change.

Even if they promised you and said yes, its the last tier. Would you believe them? I dont

Anet is fraud company to many of us now. Giving us all false info so we all buy the game and then they change it. Who cares what they promise now?

The next expansion will bring higher level cap and better items anyways, so .. the whole guild wars ideology is dead now

Twaddlefish.6537:

Dogblaster.6713:

The game was released with vision of no gear progression, everything was ABOUT SKINS. Now they changed it so what the kitten you expect from peope to do?

The basic-fine-masterwork-rare-exotic scale of items would like to have a word. GW2 has always had gear progression.

But exotic was the max. Like in Guild wars 1. When you achieved exotic, you didnt have to upgrade your gear ever again. It was still the best gear ingame even after 7 years.

That was the point .. there was never higher level cap, there was never better item than what you already achieved. All you did was grinding or doing dungeons for new skins if you wanted.

I have 5x 80 lvl with all of them full exotic. After upcomming patch I will need to gear them up again like a kitten Thats not why players plays gw