Guild Wars 2

RedStar.4218:

Anet needs to hit people hard with a tutorial. Really hard. Even if a lot of players hate going through an hour long tutorial, it’s needed in this game.

And not the kind of tutorial that teaches you how to use skill number 1 and then skill number 2.

Something that teaches you all you need to know about your profession regarding its skills and the combos it can do.

You don’t need to know any of those stuff in other to complete whatever you want in the game. But it certainly helps making things easier and faster for you and your party.

Right now, some players barely know any of those stuff. Some simply copy what’s happening in videos without even understanding what’s really happening (like pulling a boss in a corner when you have no FGS…or acting like the best player around and being incapable of stacking might).
Or not using your reflects on harpies.

Thank you. Something I can understand. Hour long- indepth- hard. Im assuming hard means unskippable/ have to complete objectives?

Sorta like titan falls tutorial. IIRC you couldnt actually play the full game unless you finished the tutorial and it required you to successfully demonstrate basic proficiency.

Michael Walker.8150:

just telling him things isnt teaching either.

That is teaching unless books dont teach. Also do I really need to tell him " Do this because you wont die as much. Thus not being angry. Thus not rage quitting?" Ofcourse that is under the assumption that he actually wants to win and isnt a mas-dere.
Sorta like me and pugging dungeons.

Screw combo fields the bar has been lowered. Dodge.

I asked this question but it was never actually answered. How low do you want them to start?

Im not sure about dodge but im reasonably sure there was a pop up but i dont get hint pop ups anymore may be a bug.

One cant simply say " Press V and a directional key to dodge or you can double tap a directional key" I think the bar would have to be so low that it should be “Press V and a directional key to dodge or you can double tap a directional key. You can also change V to something more convenient by pressing Escape key and selecting keybinds. Then scrolling down to the dodge key and changing said key to the one you want it to be. Make sure that the new key isnt also currently in use.”

I play ofp/arma. The basic stuff is ingame. Most people still dont know them. A requirement to even play in one of my guilds is the knowing of http://ttp2.dslyecxi.com/ .

Also i desperately want to scream " outside research? its in the darn game just mouse over your skills press skill" http://youtu.be/96kwILL35ig?t=14s

I can understand not knowing what all of them do and how they affect things as not all professions have access to reliable finishers. but not knowing what a field is.

Michael Walker.8150:

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Ofc I have no problem with him playing like that. Its the complaints about other players, the hackusations, his own anger. the rage quits, the game, the netcode.

Its strange to me. If I fail the fault ultimately lies on myself and my inadequacies So I tend to keep my mouth shut. If he fails its points above and such.

To teach someone who doesnt want to learn wont you need to force them?
F charts! Lies I do at same time. So Protessional!

FFS!!!!!! I knew I called it out! I did say dodging would be next! I DID I DID I DID

Im also going to predicting pressing W to walk forward. someone made it to 80 only using the mouse to move and click skills.

Ok now charts

Yea I think Im just mean or insensitive as the head nurse once called me.
I think everyone is capable but Im not sure it worth it. or rather I am not presumptuous* enough to assume that it will have the desired outcome.

• a bit condescending sounding but cant think of a better word right now

If one doesnt have intellectual curiosity can one learn?

I posted a link but post was deleted because I insulted someone (supposedly). iirc it said 14% of adult Americans were functionally illiterate. … I would continue but this thread bores me. Gemini LIFE That and I really should be doing my charts right now

Im a bit funny in that I dont join berzerker only runs. they ask for berserker and the only proffs that are purely berserker is my war and guardian (technically my ele but I have 2 armour sets)

I sorta expect they know what they want and they put it. When I lead and want only specific armour types I tend to put Berserker/Sin yadda yadda yadda

phys.7689:

DonQuack.9025:

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what exactly do you gain by keeping people ignorant? I mean really other than you getting to insult them and tell them to l2p when they fail marrionette, and die on grenth. What would you lose by actually getting a greater % of players to know the game basics?

You seem to be adamantly for people not being taught anything, but there really is no gain for that.

Its less about l2p and more l2r. r being read. its something I want to scream at the top of my lungs as I walk to the subway and back. I guess Im stuck in my ways.

I guess its how I was raised? Never really watched tv as a child it was reading and more reading. I would read textbooks months before I actually started class.
As an "adult’ I dont own a tv. I have 2 bookshelves full and a maxed out gen 1+2 kindle(none of that video Fire crap)

I dont know. Maybe I feel its better they complain when they fail and they dont have something holding their hands rather than having something hold their hands and still complaining.

Case in point bf4. My first BF since 2. my first games I was utterly dominated. Im talking 2-40 12-50. I backed out. I found symthic. I spent an evening between gw2 and reading symthic. I learned. Watched levelcap- learned he was somewhat fos stopped watching him. Ingame I found the good squads and joined them. Watched what they did. Emulated. and now I can say I am somewhat good atleast better than the average bf player. I am consistently called a hacker, attempted bans/kicks are atleast once daily tried against me. Did I mention I play laying down on a bed with my cheap satin sheet as my mouse pad?

Conversely my friend he only plays when he is “blazed”.(supposedly) He is generally quite horrible at the game. Thankfully it is bf4 multi-player there-for he can call hacks or bf4 net-code “aka every bad players convenient excuse”. He can be very good but he doesnt want to. I tell him things. Give advice. Generally ignored. I get upset trying to educate a person that doesnt truly want to. He wants to hop ingame press W left click a few times and hopefully kill people.
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About 4 weeks ago I was put on a small team to train new hires in our policies and such. A young woman complained to TL that I didnt give her the same attention that I gave the others. I was confronted and I said " Sit in during class and watch".

I asked everyone a basic questions. Hospital wide policy questions that everyone without question should atleast have the basic gist of if not be able to repeat it verbatim. She was the only one who didnt know it. ANY of it.
Mind you all new hires get a folder with that written down and are told to know it. But that is not what I was teaching I was teaching R&R for L&D.
TL understood me fully. I know I didnt see said young woman since then. I can only presume she was fired.

I forget my point. Or rather the point is in my head and I dont really deem it important enough try and figure out my thoughts on this so I can properly put it down.

tldr crap players with no desire to learn will always be crap players so why cater to them in the blind hope they will somehow be somewhat better?

Shift Focus.9083:

I myself am afraid to open a dungeon instance, even though I have all the explorable paths unlocked and I can open them myself on my main character, there’s too much variables going on here that make me shy away from starting the dungeon instance with my party, because I DO NOT want to be the one who gets blamed for everyone’s dungeon experience being ruined due to poor coding by the developers; not to mention anyone’s internet at any time throughout the day or throughout the night can go haywire and re-connect/disconnect or just plain out go offline for an unknown amount of time.

What? For about 2 weeks my internet was utter trash because of construction/overloaded something. I simply didnt lead/ didnt really join anything either. When fixed I lead.If your internet is so crap maybe you need to rethink multiplayer games. As for disconnects.. im reasonably sure you can crash and rejoin as party leader. Its the changing of char that resets the instance.

Clearly never played fps’s during dailup days.

Too many variable pfft. Youre hiding something. Get blamed? Who blames you? How do you know such things? Or maybe im just lucky as I cant remember the last time Ive been kicked out of a dungeon because the lead experienced too many variables.

Darkeon.2389:

values speed over amusement.

You can tell the people who havent spent 2+ hours in the easier dungeons.

Terribly amusing spending hours upon hours watching 1 mob decimate 4 guys.
Im not even sure how if its really possible for a cut-throat to insta-down 2 warriors and spike the necro/mesmer.

I know I had fun. You should have heard me cackling on mumble. Atleast, I was cackling until the 40 min mark hit. Judging by the expletives they were hurling my way I dont know if they were as merry as I was though.

I would like to hypothesize that people who want these extremely long death filled dungeons must be unemployed. I have about 4-5 hours of play time everyday. That would equal a full tour of AC and a smattering of CM. Normally its 1-2hour of GW2 which is full tour of AC/CM/lolling around a bit (because I like suffering), 2 hours of bf4, 1-2hours of “omg such kitten teams. Is it even possible to have lower than 1 kd? Stop magdumping you whoar! Vote Kick has started for User: Don Quack Y /1(15) N/2 (3) yea well screw you no skill bums!”

I forget my point/ Forgot it a while back/ didnt really give a darn about thread in first place.

:D I level up my new chars purely on the level appropriate dungeons.

Azhure.1857:

DonQuack.9025:

Also ignore that silly nonsense about not acting like a juvenile! Be yourself. Dont put up an act just to fit in with people or you will find those people dont really like you but that fake creation and you will be faking for the rest of your ts life.

How was my comment “silly nonsense”? If you join TS acting like nothing but a juvenile delinquent and a kitten – then the whole “Be yourself” argument will only get you so far. There are, whether you seem to believe it or not, people in TS that do have standards of conversation. I’ve seen people kicked from TS for misconduct.

But apparently my comment was nothing but “silly nonsense” – Where your comments about how to behave depending on the person’s gender is not nonsense?

Whatever. * sigh *

The difference is I wasnt serious hence the footnote

Juvenile delinquent come come now. You said act juvenile. Nothing about delinquency. He/she/it simple needs to be sure he acts with a reasonable level of balance.
Furthermore it depends on the group no?

Or does no one in these mature only groups crack stupid jokes, act stupid, troll, or ever behave childish.

I know im 28 or 29 i cant remember and I yolonoscope360tacodipgetgudskrub sometimes. And so do people (who are waaaay older than me).

If thats what it means to be prim and proper in you people ts then op simply find a guild that can appreciate “you” a bit more. Unless you like talking about taxes and politics all day. Like them grown ups.

If you had said dont be annoying I would have fully agreed

If female you have nothing to worry about unless there is another female.
if male stop being such a female:D Hop on and stay quiet. Talk when you feel the need to. laugh and such. Before you realise it you will be talking and laughing your way into their hearts.*

Also ignore that silly nonsense about not acting like a juvenile! Be yourself. Dont put up an act just to fit in with people or you will find those people dont really like you but that fake creation and you will be faking for the rest of your ts life.

Perfect intro
“Hi I am Dave exclamation mark Yognau(gh)t and I have the balls”

*Female advice is same as male advice.

Oh you may also want to make sure it is widely known that you are 15 and that you have parental permission and such.

How dare you argue with the greatest guardian??

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

My rule of thumb has always been “let the consensus be the rule”.

If people think there needs to be an amendment in rule 9 for the CM P2 boss, then that can be done. As the rule stands, as long as whatever the spot is you’re using for the CM P2 boss does not stop from him using any of his mechanics/abilities then I don’t see a problem. I do not classify the ability to move around as a mechanic, so if people want to see that changed then you should probably let me know.

Conclusion: With the current state of the rule, using a spot that stops a boss from moving around/kiting is fine, as long as that is the extent of it.

As for abusing trait bugs to do things like double consecrations, it’s currently an unwritten rule like a ‘gentlemans agreement’ that you shouldn’t do it. If I need to make it an official rule, I can do that.

Well it somewhat prevents him from using his plague form which is normally invuln/immune to control .With the bug he simply stands there in the form rather than “randomly” speeding towards a player attempting to inflict multiple conditions.

I could understand if you it were capable to put say immob/line of warding to stop him from moving in that form before but he naturally ignores all control.
As per gw2dungeons.net the ability he uses to move around is called “dash”

http://gw2dungeons.net/?CM2 but again tis up to you guys

Spoj The Second.7680:

I thought 1. was fixed. If not then it would be disallowed. For 2. Id say its legit and it doesnt work reliably anymore anyway.

1. does. Though depends on spot. Up the treehouse or on the rock? Treehouse 90% works. Rock 100%. though I may have a limited sample size.

phys.7689:

Snip &…. Some blast finishers say no where that they are blast finishers. Some projectiles say that they are proccing, but in fact are only proccing 20% of the time that the info appears on the screen. most attacks hit farther than the animations show.

Odd on the proccing 20% of time ….. Clearly the game didnt tell us this. There must be a tutorial level where they give us all bows and we have to fire 5 times but only proc once then onscreen in large sparkling letters it will say PROJECTILE FINISHER!!! ONLY HAPPENS 20% of the TIME but only for this skill because this skill is different! Now lets practice proccing with all the different projectile abilities because we believe you are too stoopid to mouse over your abilities and put 1+1 together.
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How much can you teach someone who cant be kitten d to mouse over a skill on their bar? Rather
How much more do you need to teach them? At that point youre also going to have to give a tutorial saying teaching how to open the Guild Menu how to open Options dont forget to show the shortcut keys for said things too.
Oddly enough when pressing some items in upper left dont show shortcut keys… There must be some poor legendary weapon holder with 32 lvl 80’s who clicks the icons because he doesnt know the shortcut keys. Game is utter crap at teaching now.

Also “All over the U.S.A. 30 million (14% of adults) are unable to perform simple and everyday literacy activities.”http://nces.ed.gov/naal/kf_demographics.asp

As a person who volunteers a lot. Unless you ask a person to read something to you. You arent going to find out if they can or can not read/read past a primary 2 level.

I do agree on them not saying what kind of finisher it is. They should put that as text when it pops up. Also they should remove that funny stuff around numbers that crit and put the words Critical Hit. I dont recall them ever teaching that or make a tutorial saying that.

This way I can sorta play The Typing of the Dead!

Nerelith.7360:

Calys Teneb.7015:

Guild Wars 2 is the only MMO I’ve ever played that didn’t have a tutorial. No, there’s a story intro stage that teaches players absolutely nothing but how to use 1, and that red circles are bad. From there, players are put into the wide open world, where we can do amazing things like learn about norn totems or help out on various farms with menial tasks. Players are left on their own, and if they aren’t theorycrafters like the top 5% of us, they aren’t going to know squat about how to play the game.

I stopped here because, no offense, it doesn’t sound like you’ve played many MMOs at all. Most of them are more or less the basics and then crowd sourcing knowledge. That’s intentional to push the social aspect. It’s been done since WoW and god help you if you didn’t know something in Everquest.

In EverQuest My FIRST MMO I learned the HARD way to NOT click the A key without the chat bar up if targetting an NPC.

EverQuest seemed to take a perverse pleasure in denying you basic knowledge, and expecting you to Look elsewhere… websites… other players, your Guild. And …

It worked. Back then we WERE more social. we also took a LOT Longer to hit level cap… remember Hell levels? XP Loss on death, Corpse runs…etc…

As I seee it One of the problems Not Just with Gw2, but with MMO’s in general… especially those without a devoted following is… the desire to cater to the casual player.

It leads to a dumbing down of content, and a simplifying of game mechanics.

I fear that as things are… The MMO’s of the future will have One class called “Hero” and 3 skills. " Punch" " Kick" and " Dodge".

People now a day need their hands held till about 40. If they arent told what the walk key is they wont ever look in options for key binds. They wont even ask ingame. Check the forums. use google its there.
Reading? For cats. Learning from words is for the real nerds; we are the cool nerdshipsters.

And they wonder why games are so closed off and linear.

People dont usually try out the injections part they usually try out the playing with stethoscope part. Eitherway they will learn through failure or they wont and will simply die.

Also I imitate the “best” with only a gist of what and why they are doing things.
When I fail I learn “Oh so thats why.”
If you wait till you understand every last reason before you try something… I dont know if it makes you very cautious or unadventurous. .

Case in point: just recently someone posted a video of naked ranged SQ solo. I “ran” -hopped on J train- home and stripped naked and tried it.

or maha’s bleed warrior. I tried that instantly. Failed repeatedly because I suck. But you know what? I now have a little bit more exp soloing things on my war. I know what to expect. I actually drove myself broke getting the gear for it. I was down to like 5 silver. I couldnt even tp mats to make money back had to merch some.

also

Rasimir.6239:

but without understanding what they are doing, and messing up because they miss crucial parts of what makes the good players good.

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You mean the repeatedly playing of content and failing some then succeeding some then succeeding pretty much all? If anything that groups problem was that it was pug and not a premade.

*Assumptions ofc.

I sometimes like to make believe that pro players dont die. Like in those fancy ffps montages. They show that fancy tripply headshot noscope kill but they dont show the rest of the match that was horrible.

Ill happily show of this http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/1/440724069392554304/298969538/ or http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/1/478338351797690752/298969538/
Can be sure people will never see this http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/battlereport/show/1/475403448284982016/298969538/

Casmurro.9046:

Artasqweroldy.7458:

Classism i.e. People kicking me without a comment on sight for rolling an Engineer (full zerk, scholar runes and a 6/6/0/0/2 build with Bombs+Nades). Heck, if they are stupid Classists they should write “no class x”/“only class x;y;z” into their LFG -.-

Seriously, im sick of that class discrimination + it makes me rage to see other engis rolling flamer AA and therefore lowering Engis reputation…

What i hate from flamethrower engs is that i barely can see the boss because of all that flame effects. Once i pugged CM p3 and we had 2 flamethrower engs in the group, i simply couldn’t see which direction Sure-shot Seamus was facing. Also grenade engineers make me lag a lot in CM too.

Unfortunately I that is slowly becoming a problem for me. I usually ask any engies “ft?” if they respond “whats that ?” they stay but unfortunately nades are bloody blinding.

I sorta lol @the bad player trying to follow the best player. Good Role models are bad mmmkay. Instead of trying to be like a doctor/nurse/lawyer/p.o one should def aspire to be like the neighbourhood drug dealer.

True I originally had a section for additional stuff but Germany vs Portugal

If you are on the forums you are the minority

Hi there! Don Quack here! First off screw punctuation and all that jazz.

This helpful guide will show you how to play how you want all you want all day long.
Playing how you want can encompass many different play styles, builds, armour sets, dyes, and costumes. Thus the first steps are the most important.

1. Decide what you want to do.
2. Decide how you want to do it.
2a. Decide how others will do it with you.
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Example

1. I want to do CM Path 2.
2. I want to kill everyone because I want cloth and the feeling of accomplishment.
2a. I dont mind if those that join dont know what to do as I can teach them but they must wear green and be running condition damage armour. I also dont want ele’s or Engi’s because they make me lag horrifically.
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The third and commonly forgotten step is….
3.Enter the dungeon before you list
3.a Select path before you list

Example

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This next step is also quite crucial to proper Playing How I Want.

4. Listing the LFG

Listing the lfg can be a tumultuous task but I will break things down for you.

4a. Most importantly list what you are doing
4b. List requirements
4c. List restrictions
4d. Everything else

One must not forget to try to keep the lfg posting concise as one that is too long can scare away potential party members.

Example
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CM Path 2 Must Wear Green+ have Condi damage armour(ping armour) No Ele/Engi. *KILLING ALL*
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Once your party is filled and you have enforced to the best of your ability compliance to your listed lfg ensure the party knows:

You are leader.
Thy will be done in Party
Have fun* *as long as said fun coincides with your fun and doesn’t disrupt it.

Now onto the bad things ;(

Eventually someone will join your group that doesnt want to play how you want.
Kick said individual IMMEDIATELY. Feel no remorse. You were merely insuring that your way of play is safe. If he wants to play differently he can make his own group.

After all what are groups? Likeminded people who come together to do something.

have fun!

PLSSS….
All professions are viable
All Professions are not equally viable
All Professions are not equally viable for current “speed clears”
All professions can complete dungeon/fotm content.
All professions could do it before
All professions can do it now
Berserker can do it.
Cleric can do it.
PVT can do it.
Naked can do it.*

What exactly is the problem other than “So BALLER IPHIW but not BALLER enough make my own group”?

*citation needed

Bread.7516:

Fluid adaptability in situations, positioning, and general dynamic combat as conceptualized can’t really exist unless enemies reciprocate.

Which they cant*.

Miroe.2054:

DonQuack.9025:

Oh well at-least you trolled. Hopefully they will suffer an emotional breakdown and finally stop pugging.

Totally. OR they start caring about positioning, adapt to different situations and start trying to keep themselves alive.

Actually on thinking about it. No they just need to stop pugging.
When Im not pugging Im typically 2manning attempting solo’s aka doing the above in more of a high risk environment than what you say. That also drastically improves any pugging activities so when the group wipes I could lol and spend the next 10mins slowly whitling the boss down as they beg me to die. Then I can say “Skrub L2P” Then they will come to forums and say “zerker meta needs to be dissolved”

atleast that is my fantasy. Im not pro yet….

I need gold more than I need to carry people.
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Though to be fair yes. They do need to care about positioning and adapting to different situations. Though in a moment of introspection It doesnt appear like you adapted to their situation.

I will disagree on the trying to keep themselves alive though. One of the main draws for berserker is the survivability.When In A Full Berserker Group

And this is from a ex AH “WAAAHHH LOOK AT DEM HEAAALLLLLSSS” guardian. The diff between my AH guard and my Berserker guard is this. My AH guard lasted for quite some time then died whilst not killing anything whilst my berserker guardian lasts for quite some time and kills things resulting in her usually not dying.

Oh well at-least you trolled. Hopefully they will suffer an emotional breakdown and finally stop pugging.

I think I have discovered something about PHIW’s. Nothing is ever their fault.

Phadde.7362:

It’s terrible gameplay, imo.
Stacking favors goldgain, but who in their right minds would want a game which is designed for entertainment less enjoyable to play so that they can make more virtual cash?
You’re literally skipping the fun content to make more gold, while in many cases forcing the group to do the same. If you don’t enjoy the content, why the hell are you playing it in the first place?

What makes you think we havent done it without stacking/dodging/solo/duo/trio/quatro/mostly naked/naked/clerics/knights/sin etc?

Also stacking favors gold gain..in the same way playing the game does.

Forcing the group? Darn I idnt know I had mind control powers and MADE them press join group.. Professor Xavier was an elitist goldmaker!

alas i fear i have been trolled

Aww you’re going to hurt its feelings. AC great sword an accomplishment. Sorta like Combat Healer title is an accomplishment?

p.s I always love stories where they say the Berserkers are dead and they live atleast yours has originality and you say you died 5 mins later. A question In those five minutes did you actually think you could win or were you just trolling the downed players by dancing around until death?

1. Get a team that knows how to protect its ele i.e. guard with wor/mes feedback*wardens
2. Kill them before they kill you
3. use your own defenses

Positioning will save you more than anything

Line of sight when needed

All of CM-
Focus – Air 4 Earth 4 , 5
Staff Earth 3
Utils- Arcane Shield Glyph of storms earth attune.

Or preferred
Up your damage and kill them before they kill you. if you fill your utilities full of defense and end up not killing them then all that you did is take longer to die.

1. way to escape doing crap

ignore or pretend you dont understand

there needs to be a trolling school for those who dont know that.
Not saying he isnt legit but still.

There is a diff between not fluent and not even trying.

Elrey.5472:

In PvE I inmobilize so much that i couldn’t play without it. Examples of useful scenarios.

4: It’s also useful to Rez people if you are the last guy standing and there’s a boss trying to kill you. Immobilize and get some times to rez.

I use it in my warrior and those 4 seconds are just really useful for me.

…. What boss can you get the full 4 seconds on?

Building an immob mesmer? In pve (dungeons/fractals) pls dont. thank you

We cool <3

http://gw2dungeons.net/

I cant say Im 100% sure but I would presume it also lessens the likely hood of groups getting downed. but then again crap groups will get downed eventually.

It is my experience that quite a few players have the reflexes of rock and couldnt walk out of red circles even if auto run is on much less dodge.

Im surprised you didnt say anything about demands to be be berserker.

Waiiiitttt a seconddddd…

Bloody Zac.8960:

I love the Colossus and the Grawl fractals. In fact the only fractal I’m not a huge fan of is the Aquatic fractal, because it is quite boring.

Bloody Zac.8960:

Edit: From what I understand (after reading the Dungeon FAQ, thanks to @maxinion) stacking doesn’t seem to work in Fractals. Maybe I’ll give those a go.

awfully suspicious

Oxidia.8103:

when you join a pug party, you make a pact not to kick anyone and explain and be nice, unless he insults Hugh Jackman then kick away.

Thanks I needed cheering up

+1 Ill see if I can un noobify my guild for this

you dont know the definition of the word glancing?

lol its strange but is equal to lol for me. Ill try to refrain from all the smilies…. I wanted to put another one there too.

But yea Im like the only one in my guild who knows things. but I <3 the little buggers + much better at bf4 than gw2

im surprised it let me keep buggers

myth…. iirc I had some not so good runs with them. But knowing the naming convention for guilds there may be dozens of [Myth]

Fafnir.5124:

What do you think guilds are for? To get people who know what they are doing

In theory practice is quite different

My blood pressure is atleast 150/90 right now. Sometimes I feel like running absolute crap just so pugs can see the utter crap they are running but that probably wont do anything because they are most likely blind and stupid.

There is a lump in my chest full of either heart attack in disguise or pent up frustration/disappointment/anger. And I have no one to blame but myself. no one.

Why do I keep pugging? Why on my ele?

/cries in shower.

It appears people dont figure out what combo fields are until after level 80.. Explains my pug groups.

IndigoSundown.5419:

I believe both that increased difficulty can be a better teacher and that GW2 could do a better job of providing information about the game. This issue is not a dichotomy.

Thats something I dont know about. I like more difficulty but I make no assumptions that others do too.

It may teach better but that is under the assumption that most want to learn or want something more difficult. Dont confuse difficult with new

Azhure.1857:

Rauderi.8706:

I’m not sure how much of a tutorial the game needs, but good game development states that a useful tutorial is vital to the intro-game experience. I certainly wouldn’t turn down a better training area. …That’s actually an idea. Those areas that have training dummies and such? Why not have NPCs performing various attacks on a few (whirl, leap, element fields, etc), and give players a chance to time them and see what their effects are? That way, it’s there, it’s in the game properly, and you don’t need a friend or guildie nearby to learn them.

My question is how many people would choose to practice in a better training area, even if it were provided for them? Without a need for all game mechanics, in ALL areas of GW2, there is no pressing need for everyone to learn. Its a sad situation and I don’t see people changing. My apologies for not being optimistic. There are too many things that melt before a zerg spamming 1, just too many.

Essentially what you said. better training pls. I know lots of bowbears/staffguards/staffmesmers/necro’s that know better but dont care. Why?

They can be carried. At the end of the day as long as one can solo a dungeon it doesnt really matter if other teammates can dodge or not. what we have right now is punishing? Pls.

I suddenly feel old. Gone are the days of figuring things out. Now we must be told from the get go or else its bad design. Or maybe its different cultures way of learning perhaps. not knowing something is a poor excuse after the first failure

I knew what a combo fields and finishers were within minutes of touching the game.
may be longer depending on class was ele
steps on how to learn what those are

1. mouse over skill
2. Read skill
3. stop and experiment based on what I read
" Make lava erupt from the target area.

Damage (4x): 302 (0.9)?
Number of Targets: 5
Duration: 4 s
Radius: 120
Combo Field: Fire
Range: 1,200

Hmm combo field.. mouse over other skills
Eruption
Shake the ground until it erupts and damages foes.

Damage: 462 (1.25)?
Bleeding: 12 s (3060 damage)
Radius: 240
Combo Finisher: Blast
Range: 1,200

hmm combo field combo finisher

and after a couple of tries I figure out combo blast into combo fields give me an extra effect.
Rather than experiment with all I go onto wiki to see what they are.
Based on info I deduce fire and water seem to be the two most useful ones.

Pass on information to guild. seem like Guild Wars Expert #L33tPr0

Also food for thought that someone else mentioned How much exactly would you show? There can be too much info to learn in the beginning thus taking away from the learning from experience.

Combo fields / finishers are the most obvious thing learn atleast to me and I consider myself a blathering fool. Assuming one reads that is.

I dont know if Im the luckiest or unluckiest SonofaGuns’s around. When I put “CazualRun#Wear Yellow&Green only” I get cazual rp’ers who wear yellow&green and chat and stuff during the run.

But heaven help me if I put
“P2 Experienced Level 80’s only- Meta builds only Minimal skips”

That being said other than watching cutscenes even my casual runs tend to go quite quickly. things simply die so quickly.

you can also try keeping the dungeon run in the level range of the dungeon

30-39 only ac 40-49 only cm etc etc That way you theoretically wont have those pesky 80’s bringing experience to the party thus speeding it up.

Also sub 1k ap only may be another one

Clearly we are all suffering from mass hallucinations. Dont worry its nothing to be worried about it happens to everyone.

Kidding aside