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It’s not the stacking I’m against, it’s the boring part of being able to stack and instant win. Bosses need a counter to stacking to keep players on their toes. Something to make players scatter and rely on some skill. This is a GAME, and boss battles should be engaging. Standing still and yawning at a boss is weak. I apologize for targeting stacking as the issue. The tactic makes sense, but bosses need some kind of counter for it. Stack all you want, but at some point be prepared to scatter.
I read this paragraph about 10 times and it screams : “I’m against stacking and want people to scatter”. I also displays the common false assumption that casuals have on these forums : “stacking = instant win” or “stacking = no skill, don’t fall asleep lawl”.
I’d like you to understand that stacking isn’t an instant win tactic or some kind of panacea against one shot kills. We stack on bosses for boons radiuses, to benefit from a reflect on the whole party or to keep blasting fields laid down under the group…
This amounts to player skill ! When I pug, lay down a fire field and start blasting on the boss mid-fight to get more might, yet see area retaliation pop up, I’m like ok, someone didn’t understand the idea of stacking for the boons, because they stack yet kitten up the advantages we’d gain there ! Plese run once in an experienced group and look at the screen to see everything that happens before shouting nonsene
I think the real divide of the community that is for and against this argument is split between those who FARM and those who want to play a GAME. Farmers wanna farm, gamers wanna make the game more engaging. If arena net wants to make both happy, make the bosses more challenging, but up the reward so Time Vs Reward remains the same, but game becomes playable again.
No, the split is like : PHIW vs Others.
I think I’m not wrong when I say all the elitists fall in the “others” category, because they are the ones who enjoy the game, push it farther, devise new tactics, etc… I see a lot of people in experienced dungeon guilds that skip some tours because they don’t feel like dungeonning, or low-man it for the challenge, the GAME ! The true dungeon farmer is an extremely rare species that I saw only once in 2 years.
Maybe add a “challenge mote” to the old dungeons like we see in the living story for more rewards but more challenging boss fights.
If it’s like Myslock’s instabilities, I vote for no.
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Moral of the story is: Don’t sell dungeons if you don’t want to risk getting kicked. I think you should be happy that it’s not punished by Anet, not every company would tolerate this, at least in the past, where RPG genre was still alive….
Since some people get kicked by simply joining a lfg run, do you advice not using the lfg tool because you risk being kicked?
You forgot this was an MMOrpg. You know, with players interactions, and stuff like that.If you get kicked instantly after joining a lfg group, do you lose anything? No
If you try to sell a dungeon path and get kicked instead, do you lose anything? Time invested
1/ I lose faith in humanity and realize people aren’t as clever as their LFG makes them think they are.
2/ I lose out on gold but keep the enjoyment. Then I realize I have the pleasure of getting back in the dungeon and reclaiming my instance
If you like dungeons for the adventure and lore don’t pay for completed runs.
Its like being into flirting and romance and going to a cabaret.
Real adventurers don’t pay (?)
Whatever, he pays if he wants. Maybe I’d get people to buy my AC paths on NA
#justice #served
The reddit topic has pages saved : http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2kmzjc/a_must_read_what_not_to_do_when_you_grief_other/cln3uj3
Enjoy the salty tears. Btw I gained a PvF level
Or ACSS as I call them.
During the month of October of the year 2014, a merry team of speedclear from various horizon had assembled.
Some of them already had seen their names carved forever in the skies that the Jotuns once admired, like Goku, soloer of Arah and Slayer of Lupicus or Brandstorm, the beast known among the speleologists still exploring the Ascalonian Catacombs as the fastest runner of its dark tunnels…
But these heroes could count on the help of Ameziz, the motivated newcomer, Verse, the hardcore PvPer and Sam Ajesté, the casual streamer ! (Plz +1 for the rhymes)
Today, what is being called SC Team 2 is proud to present to you its speedclear series of the Ascalonian Catacombs, runs taken from other very good guilds, changed, improved I daresay !
You’ll find here the respective reddit topics, that will also provide you with video links and extra info + discussion
http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2j1mv9/snow_crows_sc_ascalonian_catacombs_p1_412/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2jlt6h/ac_path_2_world_record_703/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2k7oss/sc_ac_p3_world_record_906/
Disclaimer : this doesn’t belong in Linksville, I actually wrote a small immersive thingy :<
I personally never giveaway pure gold as I find it to be very bad.
I giveaway 50-100g every week on my twitch, but I d it in the form of nmed exotics with cool skins, useful runs/sigils, some armour or weapons with specifid stats, variou minis, etc…
Maybe you could take a look at what this 1000g could get you then do a giveaway stream or contest to distribute it
Holly Molly, I need to come back here more often, almost missed that gem
I’ll break down an all around reaction to this topic into 3 parts :
1) Why can’t I have more rewards for spending more time in the dungeon mommy ?
Answer : I’ll do a comparison with real life as it’s something which happened to me and it felt horrible to me.
I’m a happy student in a french business school. I’ll probably have a nice salary and an overall interesting job when I finish my studies.
To get into that school, I spent two years of my life studying close to 120 hours a week (17 hours a day). Yes, I was in an elitist cram school, and I dedicated a lot of work to get where I am. Not nearly as much as others, but enough to be satisfied.
Then on the first day of school, I met the people who came from parallel ways (that’s how we call them). Some of them, instead of speedrunning subjects for 2 years of their life, just casually spent three or four years in university before being granted access to an easy exam that allowed them to get in the same school as me. In the same program. Which means we’ll get the same diploma. The same job. The same salary.
Outside of any ingame consideration, do you think that this is fair ? Basically these people took their time, attended parties, fooled around yet get the same reward as me who busted my kitten off.
Now let’s transpose this into Guild Wars 2. I’m part of the people that think that effort should and must be rewarded. If you can take less time achieving something, the reward should be higher. That’s how real life works man (except in my case QQ).
2) Why are these people telling me to play the game some more before I give my opinion ? Bonus point for : “I play it the way it was intended”.
My reaction : well, can’t say much more than what has already been said man… I’ll just say that as for myself I played this game ‘hardcore’ for over a year now. I learnt so much about every mechanic that now I think I may be grasping the whole idea and how things could be changed to make it better. One year of hardcore playing while reading suggestions and shutting it. Just to grasp how it could be.
You have 200 hours. Just explore all of the game, as in everything it has to offer, before going deep into non thought suggestions
3) OMG these people exploiting their way into a dungeon to get the end reward (everything that matters) as fast as possible. We should change that guys come on !
My reaction : my guild’s latest dungeon speedrun world record => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMDGC9yflc
What you see here is a record run, what is truly called a speedclear/speedrun. We played this dungeon casually for one year. We played it “hardcore” (what we jokingly call our casual daily dungeon tours = approximately twice as fast as a pug run) for one year. Last Friday we spent 5 hours in this path, resetting again and again to figure the best tactics, to get perfect RNG, to make sure we wouldn’t mess up anywhere.
Back to 1) : effort => reward. We get the end reward + all boss loot in a flat 7 minutes.
Why should a group taking a good hour get more ? Should the absence of effort be rewarded ?
For all the PHIWers :
- Spider Queen was killed in the open
- Kholer was killed
Happy now ?
So Illuminerdi, don’t go closing this delicious thread and give me an answer.
If you do it, I’ll myself answer you in the same way as I wrote this post : clear, with real life comparisons, by bringing examples and justifying my idea around the rewards balancing.
Cheers
Tsk. Full Nomad’s with Mercy runes is the meta now.
Bu-but Dolyak runes make you even tankier !
Tom you got revenge but on my side it was just annoying…
I start pugging an AC fullrun with a guildie. The three pugs have dces and wipe often, I strat joking about it and at P3, burrows event they kick my guildie first (he had done nothing) then me and since the LFG didn’t reappear I guess they gave to guildies…
No justice, hence my afternoon spent researching how the instance ownership and vote system truly worked
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Guys, I’m sad for FGS and SAB, but I’ll give ANet one more chance at this. The evolutions on some professions may be crap but my first two toons are getting love. For the first time
You didn’t answer my question on the first page
Right, I thought it was obvious…
Basically this is a champ box and materials farm. Very little gold is generated.
Since the idea is to sell all mats/exotics on the TP the increased competition drives prices down. This is good for everyone from an economic point of view : the offer is slowly meeting the demand.
You! You took down your SE-lfg the second I wanted to join!
Well, now imagine using the facecam while drunk and then showing them how to make gold.
Man, my party filled with total scrubs that didn’t ping gear and actually told me to get out of the party because I wanted them to respect my requirements…
So I left, booting them all out
And yeah we’ve got the idea. Now i should advertise elitism so we get some love