Guild Wars 2

@Mirta the 0.02% was to show that what these players did didn’t impact you at all. I get arguments from people saying they are for this measure but :
- it doesn’t benefit them
- it actually harms others
- it won’t annoy gold sellers for long
How in the world can somebody be supporting it lmao !?

And no it’s not akin to real life issues. This is all a game and freedom is being restrained. But well whatever. I’ll just give less stuff, won’t rid people of their precursors they are too afraid to list and won’t give 500g discounts on leggies I could sell on the TP :/ Cuz there is no solution. With the current mail limit my account would just be disabled in a months time at the rate I do my stuff.

Just gonna counter the inflation argument lovers.

We’re talking about less than 0.02% of the playerbase trading outside of TP. That’s nothing. It’s annoying for them and other people doing what you guys call legitimate stuff (guild raffles, giveaways, etc…). Gold sellers will find other ways and close to nothing will change. We’ll get the same spam by them, people wil lstill have their accoutns hacked. You guys fail to see the greater picture…

Just gonna stop all the people aiming at the legendary selling that profits “only me” => it’s also cheaper for the buyer.

I realize a lot of people are jsut salty because they feel poor. That’s sad. I always tried to help people and gave great tips but whatever, all you can see is the fact that I complain legitimately about my gold not moving as fast as before, but as always, if it doesn’t affect YOU, you don’t care.

I just hope that less precursors being traded cheap will make people want to list higher to recoup for listing costs. Now that was me being salty

Thread is pretty much over. None of you brought any arguments in, you’re basically coming to say you’re happy that it’s happening when it benefits none of ya.

mtpelion.4562:

Unless I misunderstood, the limit applies to how much gold you can receive, not on how much you can send. You can send as many 500g mails OUT as you want.

This means that large guilds will NOT be significantly impacted when they send out large prizes. The winner will have to receive his payment in weekly installments, but heck, that’s more like a real lotto anyway.

And what about the guy that needs to receive all the money from the raffle tickets ? Like the GM can’t get more than 500g. Which means you reduce the number of entries. Which is BS in huge guilds.

Wanze.8410:

Enaretos.8079:

Wanze.8410:

You can still gift stuff from the gem store for presents and raffles and you can still buy expensive stuff from the tp to give to your friends.

Not sure how much of the gold that is being sent to you/picked up by you from the guild bank is directed to those gifts but i think 26k gold per year is plenty.

Yep, that just removes something I could do since the beginning of the game. Because we enjoy seeing our liberties restricted, right ?

Also the 26K/year is cute, I probably don’t even reach that, as I’m more at 20K/year in and out. Problem is I don’t evenly do it over a year. One month I’ll trade 10K via mail then for 4 months it’ll be TP only. See my point ? The restriction on the account sucks. If there was a way to authenticate as a legit person or whatever it’d be better.

There will never be a change that satisfies 100% of the player base. Even in your case, I see it as a minor inconvenience. I think the positive changes that will result from this (more income for anet to put into the game instead of giving it to RMTs, less inflation) vastly outweigh the negative ones for legitimate players, even for you.

Especially from the curb of inflation, you will profit a great deal, as all your gold will be worth more.

Yep I know nothing can satisfy 100% of the playerbase. It mostly saddens me that ANet acts in a way that always restricts the players that have been here since launch, with their habits and everything. I don’t really care about the gold tbh. It’s a game, it’s just pixels. I’m making gold because that has become a habit.

But Wanze, even if this gives ANet more income, it won’t really matter if they don’t put out more content. I’m praying for HoT to be amazing but like a good chunk of the people frequenting the forums, ANet has been acting weirdly and removing stuff as they add some. I just dont understand.

Also about the gold being worth more I don’t really know. Gold selling didn’t strike me as being that used. I maybe know 2 persons that did it over the thousands that I played/play with.

lordkrall.7241:

Enaretos.8079:

I read it as 98.228% of the 0.175% are gold sellers. That’s stil llegit players getting hurt.

So, as long as even a single legit player get effected by something they should not have it in the game?

That would basically mean that they should remove more or less every single security measure they have.

Security doesn’t remove anything you can do ingame. But if you wanna go into this direction, I was also against new accounts limitations.

Wanze.8410:

You can still gift stuff from the gem store for presents and raffles and you can still buy expensive stuff from the tp to give to your friends.

Not sure how much of the gold that is being sent to you/picked up by you from the guild bank is directed to those gifts but i think 26k gold per year is plenty.

Yep, that just removes something I could do since the beginning of the game. Because we enjoy seeing our liberties restricted, right ?

Also the 26K/year is cute, I probably don’t even reach that, as I’m more at 20K/year in and out. Problem is I don’t evenly do it over a year. One month I’ll trade 10K via mail then for 4 months it’ll be TP only. See my point ? The restriction on the account sucks. If there was a way to authenticate as a legit person or whatever it’d be better.

lordkrall.7241:

segman.3560:

Looks like gem custom exchange drama hitting again from different angle.

I’m wondering why these ideas are geeting a green light. It’s like DRM, legit players will be punished the most.

I hope it’s april fools, because if not I will punish anet with my wallet closed tight for the incompetence in executing such a ridiculous idea.

Except that in this very thread the security people pointed out that only 0.175% of the players over a month, and the fact that 98.228% of the accounts that sends those massive amounts of gold are from RMTs.

I would say that 0.175% is much less than 98.228%, but then again, my math might be a bit off.

I read it as 98.228% of the 0.175% are gold sellers. That’s stil llegit players getting hurt.

stale.9785:

Honestly – it’s like shouting down a well. Every transaction on the TP removes 15% of the gold. It’s gone. That’s a control on inflation, right there. Circumventing the TP ought to be the sort of thing that gets a perma-ban, because it’s, get this, bad for everyone who isn’t the person doing it.

This isn’t a hard thing to wrap one’s head around.

Asking for special treatment, because you personally trade heavily in a way that has never been supported by the devs? In a way that is actually harmful to everyone else who plays? That goes so far beyond self centred that I’m not even mad – it’s impressive.

In real world terms, you’re Bill Gates/Warren Buffet asking to be exempt from the idea of taxation, because it’s inconvenient.

Think again man, the figures the dev was talking about is 0.175% of the playerbase. Then remove the loaners. The goldsellers. People circumventing the TP have 0 effect on inflation. Now that we set this straight, I’m not even complaining because it affects a business I’m quitting, but because it’s jsut something we lose. As simple as that. No more birthday presents for my friends, weekly guild raffles and stuff.

Thanks for your input though :/

joe.7684:

Lord Kuru.3685:

Chris Cleary.8017:

but also it will only impact 0.175% of our players during an entire month’s worth of mails

It will affect that many players directly, but when this destroys a guild’s ability to do community events, that affects a lot more players.

No, it does not destroy a guild’s ability to do community events. I belong to one of the larger guilds (MAGI) and we do events every weekend – in fact, every weekend night (Friday: Silverwastes chest farm run, Saturday: guild missions and Sunday: map completion) – that don’t involve or require the transfer of large amounts of gold. We did a “Twelve Days of Wintersday” giveaway last Wintersday and the prizes were valuable items, not gold. Stop talking as if taking away the ability to transfer more than 500g at a time via mail has shot guild activities in the head, because it hasn’t.

Just because your guild doesn’t send gold doesn’t mean it’s the same case for everyone. Talk about blind people lol xD

stale.9785:

If you use the TP there is zero scamming. What you’re doing, with direct through-the-mail trades increases in game inflation, making everyone poorer, directly. It is unsupported because of that.

To get a direct trade system in place without the fees accomplishes nothing but increasing inflation, and due to it being player-to-player trading, allows for a myriad of scams.

Suck it up. Use the TP as intended. Really, there is no other answer for your problem.

That’ll be Anet’s response as well, guaranteed.

Mate making gold is so easy that inflation will permanently be here. Heck, when massive gold sinks were introduced it reduced nothing of the “inflation” you speak of, which is non existant. The only thing that reduces prices are official announcements.

Joe, they are putting a restriction on something we could do that was non exploitative.

You drew a parallel to real life and so will I. Imagine that tomorrow your bank tells you : “Sir, we reduced your withdrawal capabilities to 500 dollars a week”. When it used to be infinite. Because after all you payed for infinite didn’t you ?

Then what ? Just accept it because “it’s to avoid credit card fraud man” ?

Maybe you’re fine with this but I’m not. Mail trading was fine as it was imo. The risk to be scammed covered for the 15% TP fee, more or less. Now that they take something away from us, it would be justice to have something else given to us. And not the “preventing gold selling” thing.

And @Miku man ikr, it’s like everyone here has 10g and since it doesn’t change anything for them they want it…

lordkrall.7241:

alexjolly.1463:

It fixes no problems, gold sellers will just get smarter and send 500g + the equivalent value of materials and items to the rest they want.

And yet the value of materials can shift from hour to hour. Especially if a bunch of gold sellers buy a couple of thousands of them. Thus it will make it much more annoying for them to conduct their sales.

Which is why they’ll directly focus on item selling. It’s not uncommon for gold sellers to offer legendaries against real money.

stale.9785:

Wait. Someone who freely admits he’s in the upper .175% of income in the game is upset because the system isn’t tailored to his needs.

As a side effect, they want a system that’s guaranteed to increase in-game scamming, and be a RMT haven. Because it would be easier for him to avoid the TP tax.

No.

Yep I do freely admit it as anyone can get there with a lil bit of motivation.

I want a system that can actually prevent me from being impaired by something that is introduced when everything was working fine. Because I enjoy player to player trading and nothing bad can come from it. Less scamming actually.

Yes.

Olvendred.3027:

Enaretos.8079:

As for the people talking about gold, reddit gave figures of 80g/day just with a dungeon tour. Do that for a week and bam 600g. Also TP and selling.
I called myself middle class because that’s how it is. I know people in the hundred thousands gold so I feel middle class.

That’s like calling a multimillionaire middle class, compared to the Forbes Rich List.

And yeah. Bam. 600g as easy as that…

How many players do you think do that?

Even when I ask in LA, there are a dozen peeps richer than me so idk what to think anymore :/

Actually a lot of people do dungeons as it’s always good coin. Which is why there is these speedrunners wannabes that ask for high AP, etc… Everything in this game has a reason for its existence and most of the time it goes back to gold farming (to buy the shinies)

Shameless plug because this topic is starting to awfully look like our good old “Funniest Player Fails Thread”.

Here are some old archives, feast upon old posts by your fav community veterans/enjoy our good stories

http://www.mediafire.com/download/069y9s0t5imvas0/For+Great+Justice.rar

oxtred.7658:

winterchillz.2564:

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I know you all love me

Well then based on what you guys wrote and what I gathered from the main red post topic, it’s either :
- increase mail limit so I can keep receiving stuff,
- drop the trading to player idea, as it circumvents mail limit. Event though it would mean gold sellers would have to “meet the buyer in person”, which would create more risk for them I guess ? Or add a way to secure accounts. Someone on main topic wrote we should authorize accounts that went through all protection steps to send more and that does make sense.

To Candyroxi, I don’t understand how you can get banned over a 1000g mail >.< I sent and received tens of thousands and I’m fine :s

Barnabe you do make sense with the ads in mapchat, that would suck xD

As for the people talking about gold, reddit gave figures of 80g/day jsut with a dungeon tour. Do that for a week and bam 600g. Also TP and selling.
I called myself middle class because that’s how it is. I know people in the hundred thousands gold so I feel middle class.

Hey Wanze,

I was more thinking of a proper trading system. It would only change the listings on very pricy items in my opinion.

The thing is that the mail changes are also hindering for other stuff than trading. I emphasized it as it’s indeed my main concern but I also mentioned loans, giveaways, birthday presents, events, etc…

The trading system idea is more of a solution to the mail limit. I think not many people would actually do many transactions with it. Even if you want to trade a legendary outside of the TP, you’d still need to search for a buyer, and it’s less of a hassle to list stuff.

Ok so, daily anti-zerker thread. It has potential
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/PvE-versatility-joke/

Tomoyo.3482:

kinda funny there is so much rage with this yet they say, “At 500G, it is not only functionally effective, but also it will only impact 0.175%”
Probably 99% of the people in this thread will not hit that limit but just want to complain for the sake of complaining.

Here is a link to my story and how it impacts me :
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Gold-Transfer-Changes-My-story-and-impact/first#post4933625

And I’m a normal player, not even a hardcore TP farmer.

Good day everyone,

First of all if you don’t really wanna go into a read, you can pretty much skip the entire post and go back to browsing other topics, as I’m gonna be talking about myself.

I discovered about the gold transfer changes as they were announced yesterday, when a guildie copy-pasted Gaile’s post in guild chat. At first I was like meh, sounds like an April fool’s, but then again why would they go on that topic, they could have just announced guild capes :>

Then, as I read the topic and people’s answers, the first thing that surprised me was the amount of people that think 500g is an enormous amount of gold. I’m very spoiled as I’m a PvE player (dungeon runner) and I also play the TP when my boredom reaches the next level, but yeah to me 500g is what everyone makes on a weekly basis.

Let’s recapitulate the changes :
- can’t receive more than 500g from mails/withdraw more than 500g from guild bank on a weekly timer,
- this limit appears to be shared.

Now Chris Cleary, someone I really respect for being direct about data and doing his job kitten right gave the following figures regarding impacted players (the ones moving more than 500g/week via mail) : 0.175% out of which 98.228% would be gold sellers. Please note that this figure is extended on a month and more people could hit the weekly limit once in a month then not hitting it the rest of the month.

That is actually my case, and here is a sum up of my weekly activities so you guys can see where i’m coming from :
- I sell legendaries that I make with friends/viewers of my stream,
- I loan gold to friends/guildies over a 48hours window (generally),
- I sell dungeons sometimes when craving for solo/duo action and wanting to make it worthwhile for my partner and I.
And here is some other stuff I’ve done that would also trigger the limit :
- Organizing birthday presents (usually in the 1K gold range),
- Trading precursors (with guildies/friends).

Now, while this new limit is created to fight gold sellers, it could impact me and impact YOU as well. 500g is NOTHING in comparison to the amount of gold you can make in a week. 500g is nothing in comparison to the value of items that get heavily mail traded (legendaries, precursors, expensive skins, …).

Over the last 30 days (the month time considered by ANet), here is a breakdown of my major mail actions :
- Bought The Moot from a viewer for 1550 something gold,
- Sold this Moot to a guildie for 1600g (yes I profit on my guildies, I’m evil),
- Sold Meteorlogicus to a guildie for 2300g (lost some coin, no kittens given).

Now accounting for for the new limits, the guy I bought the leggie from would have needed to receive 4 mails and waited 4 weeks to get the gold, hoping he doesn’t receive other mails with gold (in which case his mailbox gets cluttered and game is unplayable). Then for me it would take 9 mails of 500g or less to get my gold SENT to me, and TWO MONTHS to get it in my wallet. Brilliant right ? I’m a streamer and a member of a community guild that teaches dungeons and I take pride in the fact that I’ll answer each and every mail sent to me. With an uptime of 6 hours playing the game a day, that means what ? If during the 18 hours I’m not here I get 2 mails, then no more mails. Just stuck. For 2 months I can’t sell dungeons, can’t receive any other gold, not even presents people could want to make. Just nothing.

I see only 4 outcomes with that new system on players like myself, as I won’t do like some others and pull the “gonna uninstall you won’t get a kitten cent from me” card :
- I deal with it like a man and grow a longer beard to compensate for the hole in my heart,
- This was all an April’s fools and we’re getting hardcore trolled (would be GG ANet but highly unlikely),
- ANet decides to increase the amount of mails you can receive over the 10 limit. Would take some management and goign through a long list but whutevs, a bit more work on my end to get rid of gold sellers is a sacrifice i’m fine with making,
- ANet introduces a player to player trading system. I’m not really believing this would ever happen as they like the gold sink on the TP. This option would be kitten cool doe.

Now if you’ve read through this all you either hate me for being middle class (I ain"t that rich), or you are starting to feel concerned about this issue.

Thanks for reading, enjoy your day o7

Cheezy marry me plz.

???? The meta is changing at an alarming rate !

Edit : ??? was a donger I pasted but it won’t copy :’(

rT has been confirmed to be a guild made of top soloers.

The main problem is that when they get together and try to achieve group content, their solo spirit clash and everyone of them wants to solo the encounters. The only way they found to do group record runs was to have the demonic spirit of haviz taking control of their very movements so they wouldn’t give in to their soloer’s instinct.

I got accepted into beta as well. I will do a 24 hours stream on thursday to friday to make sure I cover it all.

I think we should indeed get a reset on the records. The dps loss is huge (around 10% buffed) in AC, which means the current P2&3 records can’t be beaten anymore imo.

I want to redo all teh AC records so I might be biased

Edit : read somewhere that the barriers in SE P1 were changed. Record impacting ?

MFW I go on NA, PuG AC, then 4 people join.
They wipe at spider, I solo.
One dces at Kholer, I carry.
One leaves at burrow, I’m nice and offer them to afk while I solo. The dcer rejoins, I greet him with a warm “welcome back”.
We go to the endboss. They go to the right with grast like pugs. I go in like a normal person.
I down, go ress myself in corner.
They deploy pro “headless chicken tactic” and run around. I’m like : “Boiz please, just follow me, I was running ahead”
They proceed to whine about me not stacking and kick me.
They invite a guildie.

#NA #swag #stackorkick #who’sdaelitist? #kitteninkitten #srsdoe #momplz #notevenmad #okmaybeabit #kittenpugs #actuallymad #idon’teven #toomanyhashtags

My best a month was 8K gold. I was started my finance classes and literally tried everything that was profitable on the TP, one by one.

My monthly average is around 2.5K-3K on months where I actively play and 1.5K when I don’t. My current income comes from dungeons and mid/long-term investments.

In the last 30 days I generated 4K gold through a reorganization of my guild bank tha thad the value of it grow as well as my isposable cash.

They didn’t show online for a good 2 weeks and came to rage on my youtube account about being temp banned.

You can get offenders temp-banned but you do so at the price of your forum posting rights.

I’m proof of that :/

I farmed most of my AP in PvP on my alt accounts. It’s hilarious

But AP measures the time played right ? That means the person know their class right ? They must be good at it then

Vargs.6234:

You’ve been turned into ghosts, which only happens on P3, but you’re using the ghostbuster guns that you can only get at the end of P2.

Hmmm.

We had a thief in the group and thieves are known to open closed doors you know ?

#RP #dodgingquestions #360MLGquickdoge

You can only do it on ghost type mobs. As such, only Ghost Eater, Kholer and regular ghost type mobs are affected.

We tried it on other bosses including the troll, to no avail :/

To be fair nomads guard is useful in HotW casual runs :p

You volunteered, it’s like totally the same in Sam’s land :p

Double post !

Thanks to all the people I asked for allowing me to use their videos. Now tell me if there are some you are particularly proud of, so I can use them over others ^^

Sure Sandy I want to make it as communityish as possible. But nobody is answering :’(

I like the #WeAreTheLivingStory

But yeah if people from all the speedclearing guilds were ok with sending their most beautiful records at 720p+ quality that’d be awesome !

Option 2 is DLing from YT but quality is crap and I’d like to have the authorization ^^

So, as some probably know I did, back in the days, the Fractal Tribute Video, which audio got muted thanks to YouTube, meaning it had literally zero impact whatsoever.

I now plan on going for another project as I won’t have too much school work. the idea would be to either :
- remake the Fractal Tribute video with different songs to make sure it doesn’t get taken down. Of course I’d use great inspiration from the previous video ^^
- make a dungeon community introductory video. We’re getting a lot of players with all the sales, plus the increasing number we’ll get from HoT. It would include dungeon records (beautiful and skillful plays) from various record runs from all the main guilds.

I’d like it if I could get some idea of which thing I should go for ^^

/discuss

Most beautiful love story EU

Boiz, I found a new place for funzies : the LF subforum

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/lookingfor/Dedicated-Dungeon-Group-Recruiting

There are also skills that count for a specific weapon.

Back in the days, I got sword mastery on a necro while farming with wells.

Do you need some MLG Justice post to get a temp ban on them ?
I still don’t have FC, could take a blow :p

Here comes some info about me :

• Name’s Samuel. I don’t really like it so I ask to be called Sam.
• 80% of my viewers believe Ajesté is my family name. It actually is a horrible pun (Sam Ajesté = Sa Majesté = His Highness in French).
• My horrible humour has so far been understood by only two persons.
• I was born in France but I’m actually half Algerian. Can’t ask for a dual nationality as I would have to do the military service over here.
• I learned English by playing video-games and reading mangas.
• I turned 20 last summer and on my birthday all the MF could give me was Rage.
• Currently finishing a Master’s Degree in Business Management and Finance.
• Took flipping in Guild Wars 2 as an enjoyable way to do my homework.
• Even after playing the saxophone for 10 years, I still have issues when adressing a large audience. Streaming cured it
• I travelled a lot when I was younger, but now that I live by myself, it ’s kinda hard xD
• Working on two part time jobs allowed me to satisfy my gaming urges ^^
• Guild Wars 2 is my first real MMo but has all I ever wanted : incentives to play optimally, a nice pvp scene, WvW for the days I am bored of PvE and the LA map chat for when I need my giggles !
• I feel at home in the dungeon forum community and wish I could meet some of them in real life !

As far as metabattle goes, it is poorly managed and one of the dungeon community should become mod over there.

Lilith, you can take anything I posted and ask for specific screenshots if you want

I got destroyed on reddit lol. Wintertime sadness xD

Iris Ng.9845:

To Sam: this is what I talked to you about my thief: http://youtu.be/-0msAyWPHjQ

Well, she actually reminds me of the kid in Sia – Chandelier MV.

This is indeed disturbing, but very well done !

If you have Tzark dying and resetting inside a pillar, a good solution is to get him killed again with aoes.

If he bugs before lover’s crypt, kill all mobs, run to the end of the crypt and have someone talk to him on the way.