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Sigh, still blind as hell. Constantly trying to prove that our military can do this, yet you all completely ignore everything that happens and everything that’s mentioned in the game.

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You havent explained how ausra tech counters modern day tech.

Can we make portals? No. Can we make golems? No. Can we create floting cities like Rata Sum? No.

Can you imagine anything we can create right now being able to go against Asura tech and win? No. It’s simply a matter of using that little head of yours a bit harder, just slightly harder than looking for that quote you copy/pasted.

I’m done with this for today, so good night and hope our military lasts more than a day against the Mordrem.

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You state it like a fact, which it is not.

You know what is a fact.

RL Vs Magic is an exercise of futility.

It is fact. Unless you can show me that the military has tech comparable to the Asura.

Repeating yourself doesn’t do much.

The main difference is that science exists and magic doesn’t. Even though everything in a novel is made up in a sense, this still matters-it creates different responsibilities. If, for example, the physical laws of a fantastical or SF world are different than our world, there has to be some explanation, no matter how off-the-cuff. And if that world contains magic, I think the writer has to be even more rigorous in thinking out how magical systems work, no matter how much of that appears in the text. This is because we are used to constraint. We are worlds of blood-and-water existing within a larger but finite network of people and settings, and all of that is constrained by the egg-yolk that is the Earth. If even something as arbitrary and recent as a sonnet suffers from constraint, then magic can be no different.

Of course, if you’re a surrealist or absurdist, you often don’t care about the difference between science and magic because the boundary between the two is going to be trampled and gleefully kittened on anyway. As well it should. Nothing is more annoying than allowing a little reality ruin your fun. If you have the imagination to get away with it.

Or, if you’re Jack Vance, you just set your stories far enough in the future that the science seems like magic and you sit back in your golden throne, fold your arms, and cackle like either a mad scientist or a crazy sorcerer-take your pick.

One reason I have no magic in most of my fiction is that I cannot believe in it and thus cannot write about it in any convincing way. This is the same reason you do not find unicorns in my fiction. Or Smurfs. Or Republicans. I can and do, however, believe in huge intelligent squid ponderously pulling themselves through the alleys of a weird city, protecting themselves with helmets full of water. I can also believe in nefarious mushroom-based intelligent life forms living in bizarre underground caverns. However, since this is merely an audacious application of current theory on biology and biological systems it amounts to perfectly good science.

Jeff VanderMeer, author of City of Saints and Madmen

Nice copy/paste. This disproves me how?

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You state it like a fact, which it is not.

You know what is a fact.

RL Vs Magic is an exercise of futility.

It is fact. Unless you can show me that the military has tech comparable to the Asura.

Repeating yourself doesn’t do much.

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Go play the F2P crap MMOs that won’t last longer than maybe a year then. Those games will die long before they can get an expac.

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ppl have atomic bombs enough to blow the whole world 86 times, mordremoth its like an easy task

You’re assuming an atomic bomb can do anything to a magical creature like Mordremoth. Hell, he’d likely use the energy from the bomb to grow stronger similarly to how he used to activated Lay Lines to awaken.

If you go there, there’s really no point arguing anything, let’s just assume the dragon can be killed just by players auto attacks or cannons on a flying ship

I swear, if i see one more person say or imply that we beat Zhaitan with “auto attacks, swords, bows and normal cannons”, i’ll be convinced most people in these forums have mental kittenation.

We never attacked Zhaitan with our normal weapons, EVER. This isn’t WoW where we jumped into Deathwing’s back like a bunch of morons. We used a specially made energy cannon that fired blasts made SPECIFICALLY to counter Elder Dragons.

We did beat him with pointy sticks, auto-attacks, firearms with ranges limited to less than what a man with a baseball can manage, etc.

We then, after he was effectively beaten, closed in and killed him with cannon that might be outranged by a .22 peashooter.

You can beat a foe without killing him. His death generally just means that you won’t have to beat him again.

Mordremoth, I can all but guarantee, will be beatable by a haphazardly (at best) coordinated force of no more than a couple hundred individuals using weapons so advanced that they have ranges measured in tens of feet. Weapons that are variations on a sharpened stick, and so on.

Take two hundred people armed with swords and the like (group A) and put them up against a single rocket barrage let alone hundreds of thousands of modern combatants (group B ) whose weapons outrange them by at least an order of magnitude and whose weapons have much greater penetration, and larger area effects.

If group A, again a couple hundred people, is powerful enough to defeat Mordremoth and group B is powerful enough to defeat group A in a matter of seconds, its no contest.

Idk what you’re smoking, but it’s very effective. We NEVER fight Zhaitan like that, we fight him using the cannons on the airships and what we actually attack directly are his champions or tendrils.

Exactly. We destroy his ability to wage war effectively before we ever face him. He, as a viable power ceased to exist before we actually killed him.

FYI, as mentioned previously, you dont have to kill someone, or even attack them personally, to defeat them. The Big Six and Emperor Hirohito were still alive (and hadnt been directly attacked) when they were defeated.

What the heck do they have to do with Mordremoth, a DRAGON?

Only thing we really did was destroy the Eyes and Mouths of Zhaitan which didn’t really weaken him personally, we merely stopped his vision and magic supply. We took the gamble of going directly to him on an airship in a fight that we couldn’t have won otherwise [since Zhaitan could simply revive any of our soldiers into Risen] and it happened to work thanks to the Zojja designing those cannons. By the way, in a realistic fight [since we’re talking about real military fighting Mordremoth], all Zhaitan needed to do was slam us with his tail and bye bye airship or just send his Risen army on the offensive.

So far nothing that people have said has been good enough to beat Mordremoth.

Nearly every depicted dragon in any story/lore/movie/book has been defeated…. Again if magic is the defense, there is nothing anyone can say cause well…. “magic”. So I dont know what you are expecting. But again nearly every other dragon has been defeated with modern tech or simple things like spears.

Magic vs RL, is an exercise of futility.

And what the heck do i care about dragons in any stories/lore/etc? If it was like that, then dragons would suck. In Drakengard, Angelus [the red dragon you ride] is killed by jets in the ending that leads to the game NIER. We’re talking about Mordremoth fighting modern military. The point stands that they’d lose if they fought him.

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It is still a matter of story. The only reason we defeated Zhaitan was that the story stopped it from actually acting logically.

It could easily have wiped out the whole offensive of Orr within hours of us starting it. But since the story need to have us beat it, it did not do that.

On what do you base this statement?

The fact that Zhaitan controls countless Risen and he could simply have charged them at us. Or you know, come down himself and instantly destroy us at Fort Trinity.

The only reason we even got into Arah was cause it’s a game and we HAD to reach it. If Zhaitan wanted, he could’ve charged his full forces on us at Fort Trinity similarly to how he did it in Claw Island, only much stronger.

A flight of gunships would have chewed up the entire Claw Island invasion. Now, if you want to postulate forces and capabilities beyond what the Dragons actually demonstrated in game, then that’s on you.

You mean the gunships we didn’t have yet because the Pact wasn’t formed? Oh yeah, they could’ve defended Claw Island way better. Thank you for showing how uninformed you are and how desperate you are to prove your point.

No, not those gunships. Modern military gunships … you, know, the topic of the thread?

Would they have defended Claw Island? Yes. Would be able to fight either Zhaitan or Mordremoth? No. That’s the truth and that’s it.

If you want to keep being blind and try to disprove that, you can do so.

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It is still a matter of story. The only reason we defeated Zhaitan was that the story stopped it from actually acting logically.

It could easily have wiped out the whole offensive of Orr within hours of us starting it. But since the story need to have us beat it, it did not do that.

On what do you base this statement?

The fact that Zhaitan controls countless Risen and he could simply have charged them at us. Or you know, come down himself and instantly destroy us at Fort Trinity.

The only reason we even got into Arah was cause it’s a game and we HAD to reach it. If Zhaitan wanted, he could’ve charged his full forces on us at Fort Trinity similarly to how he did it in Claw Island, only much stronger.

A flight of gunships would have chewed up the entire Claw Island invasion. Now, if you want to postulate forces and capabilities beyond what the Dragons actually demonstrated in game, then that’s on you.

You mean the gunships we didn’t have yet because the Pact wasn’t formed? Oh yeah, they could’ve defended Claw Island way better. Thank you for showing how uninformed you are and how desperate you are to prove your point.

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It is still a matter of story. The only reason we defeated Zhaitan was that the story stopped it from actually acting logically.

It could easily have wiped out the whole offensive of Orr within hours of us starting it. But since the story need to have us beat it, it did not do that.

On what do you base this statement?

The fact that Zhaitan controls countless Risen and he could simply have charged them at us. Or you know, come down himself and instantly destroy us at Fort Trinity.

The only reason we even got into Arah was cause it’s a game and we HAD to reach it. If Zhaitan wanted, he could’ve charged his full forces on us at Fort Trinity similarly to how he did it in Claw Island, only much stronger.

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We advanced on all fronts into his home territory, destroying everything he could muster to stop us. He couldnt even slow us down. He couldnt stop 200 or so people, many armed with medieval equipment, from destroying his base of operations. Not even all of those people were actively fighting him.

If you cannot prevent your enemy from occupying your home territory. If your enemy can criss cross your home territory at will. If you cannot even slow the invasion of your home territory. If your enemy can destroy your strongest forces at will. You have already been defeated and are just waiting for your enemy to get around to putting you down like a rabid dog.

Idk if you realized this, but the only reason why managed to push in was for the sake of the game’s story. Or do you really think that Zhaitan is so stupid that he never thought “hmm…maybe i should go on the offensive and charge Fort Trinity with everything i got”.

And by the way, i don’t think turrets, elemental magic, necromancy and energy cannons are “medieval equipment”.

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ppl have atomic bombs enough to blow the whole world 86 times, mordremoth its like an easy task

You’re assuming an atomic bomb can do anything to a magical creature like Mordremoth. Hell, he’d likely use the energy from the bomb to grow stronger similarly to how he used to activated Lay Lines to awaken.

If you go there, there’s really no point arguing anything, let’s just assume the dragon can be killed just by players auto attacks or cannons on a flying ship

I swear, if i see one more person say or imply that we beat Zhaitan with “auto attacks, swords, bows and normal cannons”, i’ll be convinced most people in these forums have mental kittenation.

We never attacked Zhaitan with our normal weapons, EVER. This isn’t WoW where we jumped into Deathwing’s back like a bunch of morons. We used a specially made energy cannon that fired blasts made SPECIFICALLY to counter Elder Dragons.

We did beat him with pointy sticks, auto-attacks, firearms with ranges limited to less than what a man with a baseball can manage, etc.

We then, after he was effectively beaten, closed in and killed him with cannon that might be outranged by a .22 peashooter.

You can beat a foe without killing him. His death generally just means that you won’t have to beat him again.

Mordremoth, I can all but guarantee, will be beatable by a haphazardly (at best) coordinated force of no more than a couple hundred individuals using weapons so advanced that they have ranges measured in tens of feet. Weapons that are variations on a sharpened stick, and so on.

Take two hundred people armed with swords and the like (group A) and put them up against a single rocket barrage let alone hundreds of thousands of modern combatants (group B ) whose weapons outrange them by at least an order of magnitude and whose weapons have much greater penetration, and larger area effects.

If group A, again a couple hundred people, is powerful enough to defeat Mordremoth and group B is powerful enough to defeat group A in a matter of seconds, its no contest.

Idk what you’re smoking, but it’s very effective. We NEVER fight Zhaitan like that, we fight him using the cannons on the airships and what we actually attack directly are his champions or tendrils.

Exactly. We destroy his ability to wage war effectively before we ever face him. He, as a viable power ceased to exist before we actually killed him.

FYI, as mentioned previously, you dont have to kill someone, or even attack them personally, to defeat them. The Big Six and Emperor Hirohito were still alive (and hadnt been directly attacked) when they were defeated.

What the heck do they have to do with Mordremoth, a DRAGON?

Only thing we really did was destroy the Eyes and Mouths of Zhaitan which didn’t really weaken him personally, we merely stopped his vision and magic supply. We took the gamble of going directly to him on an airship in a fight that we couldn’t have won otherwise [since Zhaitan could simply revive any of our soldiers into Risen] and it happened to work thanks to the Zojja designing those cannons. By the way, in a realistic fight [since we’re talking about real military fighting Mordremoth], all Zhaitan needed to do was slam us with his tail and bye bye airship or just send his Risen army on the offensive.

So far nothing that people have said has been good enough to beat Mordremoth.

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@Ephemiel, learn to read, it’s a great tool. I literally said For example and stated what I dislike about the “new” Eternity animations on mirror blade. It’s impossible to be any more specific. Therefore I wanted to see if anyone else felt the same way.

You said why YOU wanted it, but why should THEY do it?

“Since legendary weapons are only cosmetic appearance is everything”. YOU said this, remember? Why would anyone make a legendary if they don’t like something about it? They won’t add the option to toggle it on and off simply cause someone doesn’t like it AFTER they made it.

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ppl have atomic bombs enough to blow the whole world 86 times, mordremoth its like an easy task

You’re assuming an atomic bomb can do anything to a magical creature like Mordremoth. Hell, he’d likely use the energy from the bomb to grow stronger similarly to how he used to activated Lay Lines to awaken.

If you go there, there’s really no point arguing anything, let’s just assume the dragon can be killed just by players auto attacks or cannons on a flying ship

I swear, if i see one more person say or imply that we beat Zhaitan with “auto attacks, swords, bows and normal cannons”, i’ll be convinced most people in these forums have mental kittenation.

We never attacked Zhaitan with our normal weapons, EVER. This isn’t WoW where we jumped into Deathwing’s back like a bunch of morons. We used a specially made energy cannon that fired blasts made SPECIFICALLY to counter Elder Dragons.

We did beat him with pointy sticks, auto-attacks, firearms with ranges limited to less than what a man with a baseball can manage, etc.

We then, after he was effectively beaten, closed in and killed him with cannon that might be outranged by a .22 peashooter.

You can beat a foe without killing him. His death generally just means that you won’t have to beat him again.

Mordremoth, I can all but guarantee, will be beatable by a haphazardly (at best) coordinated force of no more than a couple hundred individuals using weapons so advanced that they have ranges measured in tens of feet. Weapons that are variations on a sharpened stick, and so on.

Take two hundred people armed with swords and the like (group A) and put them up against a single rocket barrage let alone hundreds of thousands of modern combatants (group B ) whose weapons outrange them by at least an order of magnitude and whose weapons have much greater penetration, and larger area effects.

If group A, again a couple hundred people, is powerful enough to defeat Mordremoth and group B is powerful enough to defeat group A in a matter of seconds, its no contest.

Idk what you’re smoking, but it’s very effective. We NEVER fight Zhaitan like that, we fight him using the cannons on the airships and what we actually attack directly are his champions or tendrils.

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Plenty of NPCs have access to weapons that our characters currently can not use such as the Pistol user Warriors NPCs.

Though those NPCs are only samples of what to expect since they don’t have the abilities of Specializations.

There’s also “monks” in AC, a class we don’t have.

I clearly said “important characters”.

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I know it’s been a really long time since the legendary visual update but I wanted to see what others thought and possibly see some Dev feedback. Since legendary weapons are only cosmetic appearance is everything. For example, I made Eternity for the blade animations on mesmer, all of the swooping animations with the blur I thought looked very nice; furthermore I liked that you still threw the purple greatsword on mirror blade. I personally thing throwing the crossed or X blades on Eternity mirror blade looks awful and I wonder if it’s possible to implement a weapons effect toggle. And if so would it be difficult to implement. It’s a minor thing and that’s pretty much why I haven’t posted until now but it is something I’d like to see, I really enjoyed the old Eternity.

Why in the world would they implement a weapons effect toggle?

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Oh yeah, Alexandra in Augur’s Grotto. I completely forgot about her.

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ppl have atomic bombs enough to blow the whole world 86 times, mordremoth its like an easy task

You’re assuming an atomic bomb can do anything to a magical creature like Mordremoth. Hell, he’d likely use the energy from the bomb to grow stronger similarly to how he used to activated Lay Lines to awaken.

If you go there, there’s really no point arguing anything, let’s just assume the dragon can be killed just by players auto attacks or cannons on a flying ship

I swear, if i see one more person say or imply that we beat Zhaitan with “auto attacks, swords, bows and normal cannons”, i’ll be convinced most people in these forums have mental kittenation.

We never attacked Zhaitan with our normal weapons, EVER. This isn’t WoW where we jumped into Deathwing’s back like a bunch of morons. We used a specially made energy cannon that fired blasts made SPECIFICALLY to counter Elder Dragons.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napalm

I’m going to say yes.

So, by your logic, an army of Elementalists attuned to Fire should be able to just march into the jungle and beat Mordremoth instantly.

Of course not.

A single elementalist can do that. We are just letting you scrubs come long for he ride so you think you actually did anything, when it’s always all elementalist the ones actually doing the real work.

We are just kind and mindful like that.

Anyone else would need napalm.

Napalm isn’t just ‘fire’ it’s a corrosive flammable jelly that sticks to everything and is not put out by water.

Nice way of not actually saying WHY napalm would work and nice little story about everyone not doing work but the Ele, i commend you for that.

Now tell me just how can Napalm get through Mordremoth’s defenses when an entire fleet of airships barely did anything, including the very same airship that fought and destroyed Zhaitan..

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napalm

I’m going to say yes.

So, by your logic, an army of Elementalists attuned to Fire should be able to just march into the jungle and beat Mordremoth instantly.

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Interesting topic. One of the funniest limitations of modern warfare (in my opinion) is that we as a species have no way to wage war against things that burrow. We can shoot things out the sky, out near space, out the ocean, but let a squadron of moles tunnel 1 km under ground in random directions (moles probably dont go so far down) and you cant touch them.

We can apply unimaginable explosive force to any target a nuclear warhead can reach – the question thus becomes, is mordremoth’s core above or below ground?

Mordern military techniques could not deal with mordremoth’s vine system – which runs underground. Heck, there is an uber termite system which runs beneath half of Europe which got so large because there was no way to stop it! The hope would thus be that cutting off the head would kill the body.

Mordremoth is probably within bombing distance of the surface – so modern military probably could kill it. I say that Mordremoth is probably close to the surface because otherwise it would be impeding in Primordius’s territory. I’m not saying that Mordremoth fighting a subterranean war with Primodius wouldn’t be possible (or even unlikely), I just believe such a twist is above the caliber of Anet’s story – and thus wont happen.

My guess is that Mordremoth will be taken down in game by a modified version of the toxin Scarlet used to clear out Lion’s arch. If you listened to O-tron, it was stated that the toxin was laced with mist energies – the only other piece of technology to utilize mist energies was the giant cannon which Zojja shot Zhaitan with. A toxin of that potency is not something that exists in “RL”.

Look at how easily Mordremoth destroyed the entire Pact airship forces even AFTER they opened fire on the jungle. There’s simply no way that our IRL military forces can even get close enough to bomb him. Even if we could, the HUGE amount of Mordrem that he’d send after us would kill everyone before we did any real damage.

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Anet, listen to this feedback. So many threads and pages have to mean something to you.

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Through the game, we’ve seen at least 3 characters that show either a spec or the new class: Rylock, who we know has become a Revenant, Marjory Delaqua, who started using a Greatsword after the events in “The Ghosts of Fort Salma” and Trahearne, who uses Caladbolg ever since the Pale Tree choose him to wield it.

It’s obvious we’ll start to see other important characters represent the other specs, so who do you think these characters will be?

I’ve always thought that Kasmeer Meade would likely take the mantle of Chronomancer in order to protect Marjory better.

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Taking into account this expac has the specs and the Revenant, they should make a song to show that. Something epic, in a scene similar to the one with Trehearne where everyone we met, specifically characters like Rytlock [the first Revenant] and Delaqua [who was shown to be one of the first Reapers since she was given a Greatsword to fight with at one point], finally manage to push through the very heart of the jungle and finally find the place where Mordremoth.

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We have explosive incendiary rounds that can be fired from a minigun now along with functioning railgun technology. Is this even a serious question? If guys with swords and bows can take down a dragon, you can bet cash money on a modern military turning it to complete dust.

And yet another one says we took down Zhaitan with swords and bows. We took down Zhaitan with a freaking cannon that fired specialized shells. We didn’t freaking jumped into Zhaitan’s back and started stabbing him.

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I just checked it out and it only changes the projectile, not the weapon. What the OP asked was if it changed the scythe itself.

Which is why i was asking… Death shroud doesn’t have a weapon, it removes your weapons and just applies a graphic to your character.

Seeming incinerators affect the life blast graphic, which is a ranged shot, i was wondering if theres any plans in the works to apply it to the scythe because it’s a melee attack instead.

Seeming it currently changes Death shroud #1 attack, i see no reason to why they wouldnt continue it to affect Shroud Knight # 1 ( a melee cleave attack with a giant scythe, hence asking why if itll change the scythe graphic to correspond with the equipped legendary).

Maybe it could give it a fiery graphic, but since it’s just a strike with the weapon and not a projectile, which would make sense for it to change, it would likely not change much.

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Lot of people are forgetting a very key quote right now. “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” That applies to this ingame compared to the real world, as well as the other direction.

I mean… if you were sent back to the 1700s with only a lighter on you, people would think you’re a magician or godlike.

Quite true, but please, tell me about technology advanced enough to raise the dead [Necromancers] or create illusions so realistic that they actually DO hurt [Mesmers].

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Did it change the graphics of the Necro’s F1?

Technically, it changes life blast which is the auto attack of deathshroud. its not far of a reach to ask if itll also change the appearance of life rend, which includes the graphical scythe.

I just checked it out and it only changes the projectile, not the weapon. What the OP asked was if it changed the scythe itself.

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I find it funny how people say that the people of Tyria have tech comparable to the Middle Ages.

No technology that we have right now can beat the Dragons, that’s the answer to the question the OP made. The Asura, who are clearly more advanced than us right now unless we have golems, can use magic AND combine it with technology and can create Portals, has to make very specific weapons like the MEGA-LIT cannon which was designed by Zojja herself in order to even fight Zhaitan.

Do any of you really think anything we have right now can compare? At most, what can we do? Fire missiles and rockets at it? Pelt a gigantic magical dragon with bullets?

That’s what we do with their dragon lieutenants, who aren’t that much smaller. Also, after how well the Zhaitan fight was received, I’m sure ANet will be making a similar fight for Mord…

Yes, their lieutenants who have nowhere near the amount of power the Elder Dragons have. Would you like to try again?

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The whole point of that is to make you look like you’re wielding a giant ethereal scythe. Changing it to fit a legendary wouldn’t make much sense.

Neither does me shooting rave sticks every time i use deathshroud now. It’s a big selling point of legendaries, the ability for them to change graphics.

Did it change the graphics of the Necro’s F1?

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I love how people keep ranking the Reaper as last, but are unable to even say a reason.

Well, if you look at my previous post, I’ve listed out what good and bad for every profession. While Reaper stand out with a cool concept and animation (which absolutely non important things), they got nothing to bring them back from the dead state they are in the actual metagame. Necromancer’s are actually bottom for PvP and PvE, they only stand out in WvW. Reaper sticking to the same flawed design will also stick with the bottom place. Not to mention that Necromancer’s will lose around 15% damage output with the change on core traits. It may seem futile but Necromancers actually give only damage on the table… so…

Have you played with the Reaper? Have you tested everything out? No.

All you’ve done is listen to what they say about a spec STILL IN BETA and instantly complain about it.

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Legendaries and new elite specializations.

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The whole point of that is to make you look like you’re wielding a giant ethereal scythe. Changing it to fit a legendary wouldn’t make much sense.

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Could our modern military take on Mordermoth?

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I find it funny how people say that the people of Tyria have tech comparable to the Middle Ages.

No technology that we have right now can beat the Dragons, that’s the answer to the question the OP made. The Asura, who are clearly more advanced than us right now unless we have golems, can use magic AND combine it with technology and can create Portals, has to make very specific weapons like the MEGA-LIT cannon which was designed by Zojja herself in order to even fight Zhaitan.

Do any of you really think anything we have right now can compare? At most, what can we do? Fire missiles and rockets at it? Pelt a gigantic magical dragon with bullets?

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Pay to win?

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Has a certain grade of p2w?

My God dude, stop twisting what Pay to Win means just to fit your own twisted point of view.

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RATE the Revealed Elite specs best to worst

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So far?
Chronomancer>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everything else.

That spec seems incredibly broken and mandatory on paper.

I imagine it’s thanks to Alacrity? It’s the equivalent of playing a Final Fantasy game with the spell Haste.

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RATE the Revealed Elite specs best to worst

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I love how people keep ranking the Reaper as last, but are unable to even say a reason.

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Immobilized - needs more counters

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So you’re saying you merely looked at the wiki page and decided to make this thread without actually searching for info on what you said.

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Please make dungeon mechanics soloable

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Can someone play explain to me why do people come play an MMORPG and then expect everything to be done alone?

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Oh and by the way, did i mention that ASURAN TECHNOLOGY USES MAGIC!?

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Foes in GW2, including dragons, are defeated by characters swinging sharpened pieces of metal. Unless Anet has decided to kill off the game that trend will likely continue.

If a group of random guys with bits of pointy metal can do the job then a modern military force would not even break a sweat. Keep in mind that no foe in this game takes more than a hundred or two (not sure exactly how many people can be in a map) people using iron age technology to defeat.

They are people wielding magic and magical items, in a magical world. Your comparison fails.

His comparison doesn’t fail. While it never actually happened, I’m sure a full map of only warriors who have no inherent magical abilities or magical weapons could defeat Tequatl.

Also how did we defeat Zhaitan? Was it with magic? No, it was not, it was defeated with pure and simple superior technology. So that proves elder dragons can be defeated with superior firepower, no magic needed.

If some fancy cannons in GW2 can defeat an elder dragon, I’m pretty sure our vastly superior modern military equipment can take care of an elder dragon as well.

You really think the cannons, which were made specifically to counter Elder Dragons, were 100% pure tech? You do know that the creator of the cannon that destroyed Zhaitan was an Elementalist, right?

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Pay to win?

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So every game that added classes or class specs to their expansions are P2W.

That is one very twisted way of looking at this. I honestly don’t think you get what P2W in.

Yes they are.

For me the slightest advantage is pay 2 win.

But I have no problem when it’s in an MMO.

This is the problem with language. We use words to communicate. When we start making up our own definition of words and then use it in a post we cease to communicate. That’s why I try to use grind and farm differently (because they originally were different things).

It’s okay to rewrite the definition of a word in your mind but when you then try to use it on a forum, well then it gets hairy.

By your definition every game that sells for money is pay to win, because you have to buy it to win it. Guild Wars 2 was pay to win because if you don’t spend money you can’t play the game.

The words pay to win were created to denote and tag a specific type of game. A game where without the cash shop, without continually spending money, you couldn’t compete with people. That’s what pay to win has meant.

As you keep trying to move the language bar, you help no one. If every game does this, isn’t nothing to comment on. You’ve changed the definition of the phrase and you expect others to now agree with your altered definition.

Language and communication don’t work that way. It’s okay for you to change the definition of word. It’s not okay to claim it’s the actual definition.

But GW2:HoT isn’t a game it’s an expansion.
You can see the expansion as an item in the cash shop (= only available with real cash) and surprise, surprise! It fits your definition of pay 2 win.

You cannot see an entire expansion as an item in a cash shop.

Your view is incredibly twisted.

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Foes in GW2, including dragons, are defeated by characters swinging sharpened pieces of metal. Unless Anet has decided to kill off the game that trend will likely continue.

If a group of random guys with bits of pointy metal can do the job then a modern military force would not even break a sweat. Keep in mind that no foe in this game takes more than a hundred or two (not sure exactly how many people can be in a map) people using iron age technology to defeat.

Yep, we clearly defeated Zhaitan by slashing at it and not by using Airships with weapons designed specifically to fight Elder Dragons.

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ppl have atomic bombs enough to blow the whole world 86 times, mordremoth its like an easy task

You’re assuming an atomic bomb can do anything to a magical creature like Mordremoth. Hell, he’d likely use the energy from the bomb to grow stronger similarly to how he used to activated Lay Lines to awaken.

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Pay to win?

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So every game that added classes or class specs to their expansions are P2W.

That is one very twisted way of looking at this. I honestly don’t think you get what P2W in.

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Enemies with elite specializations?

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We likely will see enemies with the new specs. Like you said, we already see mobs that are pretty much the classes.

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Reaper Shouts need spooky voice

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He is the Harbinger of my existence.

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Reaper Shouts need spooky voice

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I really wish they did this. You’re supposed to be a REAPER. At least make it like WoW’s Death Knights or something. I can’t imagine Asura Reapers simply for the voice.

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I’m pretty sure that if the tech created by Charr and Asura combined with MAGIC doesn’t really work, i highly doubt our modern military can even last.

Just what can the military do when they become minions for Mordremoth and the other remaining Elder Dragons?

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No Trinity and Maybe Trinity?

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I know this is a dead horse that barely has anything but bones since it decayed beyond recognition…..but i’m gonna beat it anyway.

…..why…..

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