Guild Wars 2

Rasimir.6239:

Merlot.8567:

Thoughts?

I’m starting to wonder if it wouldn’t be easier for ANet to just offer “full” characters for sale. Full as in

• level 80
• all waypoints unlocked
• all skill/hero challenges unlocked
• all dungeon stories unlocked
• full set of exotic equipment of a stat set of your choice

After all, that’s what a lot of people on these forums seem to be after. Leveling, unlocking maps, skills, traits, dungeon access all seems to be regarded as boring, necessary grind these days if you judge by the topics around here.

Personally, I find waypoint unlocking a quick, easy and painless way to advance my character, giving me several levels on the side. Just running from Lion’s Arch to the gates of Arah with a lvl 75 character will bring you close to lvl 80 by map unfogging/wp unlocking alone, and takes way less than an hour.

I wonder how many people would actually play their characters more if they could pay to unlock the world, and how many would pay because of being impatient, but ultimately end up playing less because “there’s nothing to do”?

It seems that people want what WoW did. Just sell you a lv 90 char for 60 bucks.

Don’t go charging in towards Dragonhunters?

“A chapel is a religious place of fellowship, prayer and worship that is attached to a larger, often nonreligious institution or that is considered an extension of a primary religious institution.”

Not necessarily for weddings and the people of LA will likely need a place to worship their Gods after such destruction plus Mordremoth’s awakening.

A greatsword wouldn’t work for a class that focuses on stealing and stealth.

More than likely it’ll be a rifle for long range assassinations, but isn’t the Warrior’s F1 with a rifle essentially that?

We don’t know just what our Spec will be, so speculating about it is meaningless for now.

I don’t recall anyone complaining about Mesmers using Greatswords as ranged weapons, what the heck is wrong with melee staffs?

They’re actually really well designed. Only one i don’t really like is the Dagger since that looks nothing like daggers.

Cecilia.5179:

Leveling in this game becomes awful by the 8th character. I’ve played every storyline after level 30 to death, and I cannot stomach it again, especially since I’ve also played every storyline for the races I like. I’d love to see leveling freshened up in this game.

I don’t think leveling is designed to keep your attention after you leveled 8 chars.

Saiyan.1704:

ashalind.9674:

Why cant we halp building lions arch?

Probably because some one will build a giant Quaggan out of flags, bricks and scaffolds.

Wouldn’t that be a good thing? Giant Quaggans in honor of the Quaggans that have died so far?

DragonflyDusk.6582:

Ephemiel.5694:

I asked if the Lion’s Arch survey thing was the something and she never answered, instead she simply said what akin to “we’ll tell you when we’re ready, shut up”. Please don’t be a drone instantly saying i deserve snarky comments simply for asking.

“As awesome as this is, please tell me this isn’t the reason why there’s no spec reveal today.”

“We reveal things, including specializations, when they are ready. If they haven’t been revealed yet, it means we’re not ready to reveal them. ~RB”

https://www.facebook.com/GuildWars2

We shall forge mountains from the molehills to build a new Lion’s Arch.

That plus the comment here wasn’t snarky or you posted it just to use my exact words against me?

I find it funny how we can see she clearly dodged the question by saying something else and yet there’s people who swear that she answered it directly.

Guys, even Ray Charles can see this, why can’t you?

Kal Spiro.9745:

Ephemiel.5694:

Regina Buenaobra.6193:

Ephemiel.5694:

I actually asked them in their Facebook if this ended up being the “surprise” they had for this week and all i got was a snarky comment from Rubi Bayer saying that they’ll only show specs when they’re ready.

That was actually me. I sign my posts with RB. Rubi signs her posts with RB2.

What you asked was whether the Lion’s Arch info was the reason there was no specs reveal. To pit these two pieces of information against each other misunderstands the game development process and the fact that we have different teams working on different features. The folks working on Lion’s Arch are not the same people we have working on profession specializations. As I said on Facebook: we release information when we’re ready to do so. If we haven’t revealed something, it’s because we’re not ready yet.

I merely asked if that was the reason, there was no need to say a snarky comment at me at all about “we reveal stuff when they’re ready”.

By the way, since you “don’t reveal things if they’re not ready”, i’ll assume that means you don’t have any other spec ready to be revealed and whatever news Anet has for us is simply a way to take this week’s time while another spec is fully ready to be shown?

Sounds to me like you attitude deserves all the snark it receives.

“We release information when we’re ready to do so.” is not the same thing as “We reveal stuff when they’re ready.”

It means that when we’re ready to tell you, you’ll get told. None of this is “ready,” Hell, the Engineer wasn’t even in engine when they revealed specializations. But they were ready to tell us about them, so that’s when.

You asked if they were revealing something, but they’re not ready to tell us what they’re revealing, whether or not it is LA. They will tell us what the big surprise is on Friday, maybe before but probably on Friday. That’s when they’ll be ready, and so that’s when we’ll find out.

I asked if the Lion’s Arch survey thing was the something and she never answered, instead she simply said what akin to “we’ll tell you when we’re ready, shut up”. Please don’t be a drone instantly saying i deserve snarky comments simply for asking.

This is likely one of the easiest, and honestly most fun, MMOs to level in. OP must be doing some Krytan weed or something.

Orpheal.8263:

Ephemiel.5694:

Orpheal.8263:

Shaogin.2679:

Doggie.3184:

Yay, they added more weapons that I can’t buy cuz my spec isn’t officially known yet.

Mesmer – Shield
Guardian – Longbow
Necromancer – Greatsword
Ranger – Staff
Elementalist – Sword
Engineer – Hammer
Thief – Rifle Mace
Warrior – Pistol Torch

Just assume that list is correct, has been so far.

Lets pretend rather that this is correct as it would ruin much lesser the whole game and would suit better to the game.

I don’t really think Thieves would get a Mace though, unless their spec is something that likes to beat the crap out of their enemies and leave their faces unrecognizable…..

yeah, like a Saboteur maybe ? :P they like it rough to destroy things, if your face gets in their way, well clonk ^^

Wouldn’t Saboteur fit Engineers more though?

I’ll laugh my butt off at every “Dragonhunter” i see with a quiver on then.

Xenon.4537:

Ephemiel.5694:

Go back in time to the early days of GW2 where even guild groups had huge problems clearing dungeons.

We don’t have a time machine… Idk why people keep bringing this non-answer up…

We have Chronomancers

Orpheal.8263:

Shaogin.2679:

Doggie.3184:

Yay, they added more weapons that I can’t buy cuz my spec isn’t officially known yet.

Mesmer – Shield
Guardian – Longbow
Necromancer – Greatsword
Ranger – Staff
Elementalist – Sword
Engineer – Hammer
Thief – Rifle Mace
Warrior – Pistol Torch

Just assume that list is correct, has been so far.

Lets pretend rather that this is correct as it would ruin much lesser the whole game and would suit better to the game.

I don’t really think Thieves would get a Mace though, unless their spec is something that likes to beat the crap out of their enemies and leave their faces unrecognizable…..

Go back in time to the early days of GW2 where even guild groups had huge problems clearing dungeons.

Regina Buenaobra.6193:

Ephemiel.5694:

I actually asked them in their Facebook if this ended up being the “surprise” they had for this week and all i got was a snarky comment from Rubi Bayer saying that they’ll only show specs when they’re ready.

That was actually me. I sign my posts with RB. Rubi signs her posts with RB2.

What you asked was whether the Lion’s Arch info was the reason there was no specs reveal. To pit these two pieces of information against each other misunderstands the game development process and the fact that we have different teams working on different features. The folks working on Lion’s Arch are not the same people we have working on profession specializations. As I said on Facebook: we release information when we’re ready to do so. If we haven’t revealed something, it’s because we’re not ready yet.

I merely asked if that was the reason, there was no need to say a snarky comment at me at all about “we reveal stuff when they’re ready”.

By the way, since you “don’t reveal things if they’re not ready”, i’ll assume that means you don’t have any other spec ready to be revealed and whatever news Anet has for us is simply a way to take this week’s time while another spec is fully ready to be shown?

Atherakhia.4086:

Ephemiel.5694:

ronpierce.2760:

Ephemiel.5694:

I think people like the OP are completely blind since the darn thing is still in BETA and they’re already complaining.

You don’t know how early production feedback works do you? If anything is going to get fixed it has a MUCH higher change at being looked at in these stages. Thats what sharing information and testing is all about…

You don’t know what i meant and simply wanted to run your mouth, did you? The spec is still in beta, this means it’ll get changes and yet people are complaining about its numbers like they were final.

You didn’t read what he wrote and just wanted to run your mouth didn’t you?

He said it’s in beta so now’s the time to raise concerns. Your opinion of ‘ignore it and everything will work in the end’ is how you end up with the current Necromancer.

Did i say “ignore it and everything will work out”? Learn to read for once, i said it’s beta and it’ll be changed. Use those brains you got.

ronpierce.2760:

Ephemiel.5694:

I think people like the OP are completely blind since the darn thing is still in BETA and they’re already complaining.

You don’t know how early production feedback works do you? If anything is going to get fixed it has a MUCH higher change at being looked at in these stages. Thats what sharing information and testing is all about…

You don’t know what i meant and simply wanted to run your mouth, did you? The spec is still in beta, this means it’ll get changes and yet people are complaining about its numbers like they were final.

I actually asked them in their Facebook if this ended up being the “surprise” they had for this week and all i got was a snarky comment from Rubi Bayer saying that they’ll only show specs when they’re ready.

cocowoushi.7150:

Lol you’re all silly if you think this is the “big news” they are going to talk about on Friday. They have been covering HoT stuff the past 3 weeks or so; I’m positive it will be HoT related.

….so the rebuilding of Lion’s Arch will not happen in HoT according to you?

I think people like the OP are completely blind since the darn thing is still in BETA and they’re already complaining.

Yay, we get to take a survey that will decide like 4 or 5 things.

Guys, just give it up, it’s like explaining something to a door. He simply refuses to understand and thinks his twisted vision of what P2W game is right.

Well….a lot of us Sylvari are under Mordremoth’s control and countless of us have likely died by now, so it’d make sense for the Grove to start showing signs of decay and weakness.

Hooray, we’re changing the Dragonhunter’s name!!

Let me dream.

You guys keep forgetting the almighty power of Ale and drunk berserker-rage Norns.

What if it’s a drinking war?

To be honest, unless we’re talking Humans from everywhere in Kryta right now, they don’t really have an army either. Divinity’s Reach is pretty much their only stronghold right now after they lost so much territory to the Elder Dragons.

Of course, the Norn don’t really have an army either, but they have the advantage of having lived in such frigid conditions for so long [which made them tougher] and being a mostly shamanistic and nomadic culture [which allows them to pretty much live anywhere].

It’s kinda obvious that a Norn would break a Human in a fight, but it’d be a fight of discipline vs raw power honestly. I highly doubt that the Norn would organize themselves as well as Humans would with groups like the Seraphs and i highly doubt that Humans could go toe-to-toe with Norns and expect to win.

Ashen.2907:

Ephemiel.5694:

Ashen.2907:

Ephemiel.5694:

Ashen.2907:

Ephemiel.5694:

At no point is my argument “but…magic…”. If you’re so dumb that you only read whatever supports your views, that’s not my problem.

Keep being a blind idiot, that will help you.

The Pact NEEDED to create weapons to specifically fight the Elder Dragons. Why the heck is it that YOUR argument seems to be “X thing makes our military better”? SO WHAT!? The Dragons are magically creatures, of course i’m mentioning magic a lot and guess how Zhaitan was beaten? With magical technology created by the Asura.

This is the last time i’ll say it, so get it through your big heads, WE HAVE NOTHING THAT COMPARES TO THIS. You really think napalm or nukes can do anything about creatures that can command the dead? Or control plants to the point where an entire Pact airship fleet was destroyed in an instant by vines?

We have proof in game, with many thousands of examples, that beings with the ability to command undead or control plants are no more immune to physical harm than anything else.

And yet again you only understand what you want in order to prove yourself right. When the kitten did i say that they were immune to harm?

You asked, “you really think that napalm or nukes can do anything about creatures that can command the undead?”

I pointed out that there are thousands upon thousands of in game examples of beings that can command the undead being every bit as subject to harm in any form as anyone else.

I said creatures that command the undead clearly referring to the dragons, not an actual undead like a Lich.

You specifically stated beings with the ability to command undead. The most common such are necromancer characters.

I specifically said “creatures” in a thread talking about Mordremoth. It’s no chance anyone misunderstood, good try though.

Ashen.2907:

Ephemiel.5694:

Ashen.2907:

Ephemiel.5694:

At no point is my argument “but…magic…”. If you’re so dumb that you only read whatever supports your views, that’s not my problem.

Keep being a blind idiot, that will help you.

The Pact NEEDED to create weapons to specifically fight the Elder Dragons. Why the heck is it that YOUR argument seems to be “X thing makes our military better”? SO WHAT!? The Dragons are magically creatures, of course i’m mentioning magic a lot and guess how Zhaitan was beaten? With magical technology created by the Asura.

This is the last time i’ll say it, so get it through your big heads, WE HAVE NOTHING THAT COMPARES TO THIS. You really think napalm or nukes can do anything about creatures that can command the dead? Or control plants to the point where an entire Pact airship fleet was destroyed in an instant by vines?

We have proof in game, with many thousands of examples, that beings with the ability to command undead or control plants are no more immune to physical harm than anything else.

And yet again you only understand what you want in order to prove yourself right. When the kitten did i say that they were immune to harm?

You asked, “you really think that napalm or nukes can do anything about creatures that can command the undead?”

I pointed out that there are thousands upon thousands of in game examples of beings that can command the undead being every bit as subject to harm in any form as anyone else.

I said creatures that command the undead clearly referring to the dragons, not an actual undead like a Lich.

Entitled much? It doesn’t matter how much something “costs”.

Turk.5460:

This started as such an innocent question.

And it escalated to this, like real war!

Xarius.6120:

In the best probability ( for me ) abaut Warrior new skills : Survival from Ranger. Why? Because we are going into a jungle, that sort of skills would suit Warrior pretty well there. And as weapon: Dagger. Because big weapons aren’t suited for a place full of vegetation, they would be hard to use, and they are more suited for the place and the class.

Did you forget that Necromancers are getting Greatswords when you wrote this part?

Chrispy.5641:

Ephemiel.5694:

Mordremoth used vines to completely destroy the airships, forgot that or you’re misremembering just to prove you’re right?

A nuke [which the OP said wouldn’t be used, so everything i’ve been saying is based off that] would likely be devastating, but it wouldn’t kill something like Mordremoth at all.

A crappy tank is NOTHING compared to a Golem. If anything, a tank is more akin to Charr’s weaponry, not Asuran Golemancy.

Yet again, you show that you know nothing of the game.

Any proof, or are you just angry at this point?

You should watch that cutscene again buddy. There was Sylvari blowing up the pact fleet while Mordremoth was ripping the ships out of the sky, which just proves my point that a fleet of super sonic jets would have been easily able to out fly those vines.

Prove that a Golem can withstand a Sabot round when a bunch of Ranger Rapid Fires is often sufficient to take it down. Prove that a Golem is faster than an M1 Abrams (which can move at 60 miles an hour, where a golem can only run sort of slow)

Uhh no, the Sylvari were attacking the people on the ships, but they didn’t “blow them up”, Mordremoth’s vines did.

The game makes it a point that the Charr are a military race and they clearly have their own versions of tanks, which are obviously inferior to Asuran magical technology or else we would be using them against the Elder Dragons, which we aren’t.

I LOVE how you want proof, yet you can’t give me any either. Where’s the proof that a Golem can’t withstand it? Because we, as characters in an MMO, can destroy them with arrows? Arrows that, might i add, never run out or guns that never need to reload? Almost as if they’re infused with, here is the special word, MAGIC?

Would you like to try again or is this enough? I’m getting tired of people either twisting my own words or completely forgetting things that happen in the game.

This would be pretty good since it wouldn’t show the same exact minion every time.

Ashen.2907:

Ephemiel.5694:

At no point is my argument “but…magic…”. If you’re so dumb that you only read whatever supports your views, that’s not my problem.

Keep being a blind idiot, that will help you.

The Pact NEEDED to create weapons to specifically fight the Elder Dragons. Why the heck is it that YOUR argument seems to be “X thing makes our military better”? SO WHAT!? The Dragons are magically creatures, of course i’m mentioning magic a lot and guess how Zhaitan was beaten? With magical technology created by the Asura.

This is the last time i’ll say it, so get it through your big heads, WE HAVE NOTHING THAT COMPARES TO THIS. You really think napalm or nukes can do anything about creatures that can command the dead? Or control plants to the point where an entire Pact airship fleet was destroyed in an instant by vines?

We have proof in game, with many thousands of examples, that beings with the ability to command undead or control plants are no more immune to physical harm than anything else.

And yet again you only understand what you want in order to prove yourself right. When the kitten did i say that they were immune to harm?

Chrispy.5641:

Ephemiel.5694:

By all means, tell me what argument have any of you made?

Chrispy.5641:

Tyria has Golems…walking tanks that shoot Magic…..Earth has the M1A2 Abrams, which has a 120mm cannon that fires a round with a muzzle velocity of over a mile a second, and depending on the range, can penetrate 3 feet of solid steel like it was butter. Sure, Tyria has that magical Orichalcum that could possibly stand up better than Steel…except that they can’t, because Orichalcum is nothing more than brass or bronze…yeah…so magical! Advantage : Earth

If Asura Golems can fight the armies of the elder dragons, than our modern tanks sure as hell can!

Chrispy.5641:

Tyria has Airships that for the most part, fly magically, but are slow, and aren’t really that maneuverable….Earth has Jets that can fly several times faster than the speed of sound, and has radar and tracking avionics advanced enough to shoot anything out of the sky long before you can even see what you’re aiming at. Advantage : Earth.

Mordremoth took out the Pact fleet because of a sylvari insurrection, which our military doesn’t have. The Vines that ripped the Pact Airships from the sky, were able to do so because the Pact was moving too slow. Our super sonic jets would never be hit, and could freely carpet bomb the jungle until there was nothing left.

Chrispy.5641:

Tyria has Elementalists that can create supremely destructive magic, and those Elder Dragons seem pretty powerful too….Earth has Napalm, Rocket Launchers, Bunker Busters, MOABs, and Nuclear weapons capable of ending life on Earth 100x faster than any Elder Dragon ever could. Advantage : Earth.

You can’t beat a Nuke unless you had a 5 mile meteor or a searing level of magic, which, I’m not sure the Flame Legion has 10,000 more of those lying around…

Should I keep going, or are you going to make an argument against this?

Mordremoth used vines to completely destroy the airships, forgot that or you’re misremembering just to prove you’re right?

A nuke [which the OP said wouldn’t be used, so everything i’ve been saying is based off that] would likely be devastating, but it wouldn’t kill something like Mordremoth at all.

A crappy tank is NOTHING compared to a Golem. If anything, a tank is more akin to Charr’s weaponry, not Asuran Golemancy.

Yet again, you show that you know nothing of the game.

Ashen.2907:

Chrispy.5641:

Ephemiel.5694:

Sigh, still blind as hell. Constantly trying to prove that our military can do this, yet you all completely ignore everything that happens and everything that’s mentioned in the game.

I’ve mentioned almost a dozen examples of how our modern militaries could be (and factually are) stronger than the magical societies of Tyria. How about you try to prove me wrong instead of spouting “b-b-but, MAGIC”?

Metasynaptic.1093:

Chrispy.5641:

Metasynaptic.1093:

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

Which would require advanced technology (which Tyria doesn’t have) and not just magic, besides the fact that statement is wrong anyways and amounts to wishful thinking on the part of every scientist that has ever said it, since sufficiently advanced technology still has to follow the laws of physics and still cannot create matter/energy from nothing and must follow the laws of thermodynamics, where magic does not, therefore, this makes technology always distinguishable from magic.

scientists don’t say it. It’s one of Clark’s laws. Which you’d probably know if you bothered to read anything instead of flailing madly in an argument about a thought exercise.

That’s a ‘fact’.

I would post links to videos of at least two scientists saying/agreeing with what Clark said (as well as several passages of Michio Kaku’s many books where he specifically mentions that phrase/law/whatever). Scientists love to quote Authors since they often guess science right, before even the scientists do. for example, any one involved in robotics or artificial intelligence in any capacity worth their wrench could cite all three of Issac Asimov’s laws of robotics without even thinking about it, but, you aren’t actually thinking in this thought exercise, you only want to attack me with an assumption that I’m not thinking, so, why should I think for you if you can even do it yourself?

Ashen.2907:

Chrispy.5641:

Metasynaptic.1093:

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

Which would require advanced technology (which Tyria doesn’t have) and not just magic, besides the fact that statement is wrong anyways and amounts to wishful thinking on the part of every scientist that has ever said it, since sufficiently advanced technology still has to follow the laws of physics and still cannot create matter/energy from nothing and must follow the laws of thermodynamics, where magic does not, therefore, this makes technology always distinguishable from magic.

I’d love to see your source supporting the claim that magic in Tyria is any more exempt from the laws of thermodynamics than is technology.

I never said it was exempt, but, I’m going to make the rest of this post anyways, not specifically directed towards you, but to anyone who still wants to scream that magical words as if it ends all arguments.

You mean Elementalists don’t create fireballs and conjure things out of thin air? Rangers don’t just cause vines and mud to magically appear out of the ground, and not just ground that would naturally support vines, but ANY surface?

When you are creating that heat, it has to come from somewhere, it can’t just spontaneously exist from nowhere. The Vines and Mud have to come from somewhere. Mater cannot be created or destroyed, it can only change forms. That is a universal law. You cannot break it.

You can make the statement “b-b-but, MAGIC!”, but instead of saying MAGIC, I would like for you to use your head and explain how magic can accommodate the laws of Thermodynamics. I already know and can explain how, but I’m not going to argue both sides because the MAGIC side can’t argue on their own. I even gave you a hint in the last paragraph, so how about you debate properly and actually come up with an argument that Tyria is better than our Modern military, with actual points, or just get off this thread?

I hope this post doesn’t sound too attack-ish on you guys, but you need to start making an actual argument, instead of just saying MAGIC every three posts.

Are all of those efects coming from nowhere though?

We do not know that to be the case. I, personally, am not just saying MAGIC. I am merely pointing out that we do not know that magic violates any physical laws. The heat of a fireball spell could very well be coming from somewhere. The physical substance of a ranger’s summoned vines could come from somewhere.

In some of my favorite fantasy magic systems the laws of thermodynamics are strictly adhered to.

I’m not saying “just magic” either, it’s YOU who keeps coming up with that instead of actually proving your own arguments.

Chrispy.5641:

Ephemiel.5694:

At no point is my argument “but…magic…”. If you’re so dumb that you only read whatever supports your views, that’s not my problem.

Keep being a blind idiot, that will help you.

….

Ephemiel.5694:

Rollingonit.1309:

You havent explained how ausra tech counters modern day tech.

Can we make portals? No. Can we make golems? No. Can we create floting cities like Rata Sum? No.

Can you imagine anything we can create right now being able to go against Asura tech and win? No. It’s simply a matter of using that little head of yours a bit harder, just slightly harder than looking for that quote you copy/pasted.

I’m done with this for today, so good night and hope our military lasts more than a day against the Mordrem.

Translation : MAGIC!!!

Ephemiel.5694:

Oh and by the way, did i mention that ASURAN TECHNOLOGY USES MAGIC!?

Translation : MAGIC!!!

Ephemiel.5694:

Basandra Skye.4031:

Lot of people are forgetting a very key quote right now. “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” That applies to this ingame compared to the real world, as well as the other direction.

I mean… if you were sent back to the 1700s with only a lighter on you, people would think you’re a magician or godlike.

Quite true, but please, tell me about technology advanced enough to raise the dead [Necromancers] or create illusions so realistic that they actually DO hurt [Mesmers].

Translation : MAGIC!!!

Ephemiel.5694:

Khalisto.5780:

ppl have atomic bombs enough to blow the whole world 86 times, mordremoth its like an easy task

You’re assuming an atomic bomb can do anything to a magical creature like Mordremoth. Hell, he’d likely use the energy from the bomb to grow stronger similarly to how he used to activated Lay Lines to awaken.

Translation : MAGIC!!!

Your entire argument so far has been nothing but Magic wins because Magic is Magic and Magic does what Magic does, completely ignoring any argument or point made about our modern militaries. Do I really need to say anymore?

By all means, tell me what argument have any of you made?

Dawnbreaker.6215:

Ephemiel.5694:

Khalisto.5780:

ppl have atomic bombs enough to blow the whole world 86 times, mordremoth its like an easy task

You’re assuming an atomic bomb can do anything to a magical creature like Mordremoth. Hell, he’d likely use the energy from the bomb to grow stronger similarly to how he used to activated Lay Lines to awaken.

We have no information about Mordremoth having any magical defence against nuclear weapons, nor do we have any information about him being able to absorb a 20 megaton explosion as if it were a stream of harmless magicka.

Hmm, do we have information about it working? Oh right, no.

At no point is my argument “but…magic…”. If you’re so dumb that you only read whatever supports your views, that’s not my problem.

Keep being a blind idiot, that will help you.

The Pact NEEDED to create weapons to specifically fight the Elder Dragons. Why the heck is it that YOUR argument seems to be “X thing makes our military better”? SO WHAT!? The Dragons are magically creatures, of course i’m mentioning magic a lot and guess how Zhaitan was beaten? With magical technology created by the Asura.

This is the last time i’ll say it, so get it through your big heads, WE HAVE NOTHING THAT COMPARES TO THIS. You really think napalm or nukes can do anything about creatures that can command the dead? Or control plants to the point where an entire Pact airship fleet was destroyed in an instant by vines?

This is the problem with RNG, but it happens. Some years ago, in Tera, i tried to upgrade my weapon and a few friends from my guild gave me a ton of fodder equipment for me to do it. I failed to get it to +9 even though they gave me enough fodder to upgrade 8 weapons 9 times over. One of them then got his own weapon in front of me to +9 on his first try.

It happens, it sucks, but it happens.

Mounts are for crazies. Swiftness.

Someone sacrifice the OP to Mordremoth for even suggesting this.

Valmir.4590:

The thematic of a Hunter fit pretty well with the Guardian. He hunt downs hos foes, I don’t see any problem with it. he is basically over-zealous and go out of his way to cull them, instead of waiting for them to attack. What doesn’t fit ?

Would you like to know what the over-zealous profession that goes after foes instead of waiting for them to attack is called? Warrior.

I agree with everyone here. Just how did the Guardian, the paragon of righteousness, the tank, the protector of the weak…….suddenly became a trap-using dragonhunter.

Think about this, this game’s equivalent of PALADINS…..and they’re suddenly using traps and calling him/herself Dragonhunter. WE ARE ALL DRAGONHUNTERS. We’re all trying to hunt the Elder Dragons and their lieutenants, aren’t we? This entire spec fits more for a Ranger or Thief or even a Warrior, not a Guardian.

Hell, i can accept a Guardian using traps, but why the name? Why are Guardians suddenly becoming and calling themselves “Dragonhunters”?

“Hmm seems like the “PvP” aspec of WoW is actually also “pay 2 win” when you reach the non-xpac max level (90). As a level 90 you will be matched with enemies on the level 90-99 so you can have a clear disadvantage. That would have been completely different if the pool would been something like 81-90.”

You’re just a bad troll aren’t you? No one with an actual brain would actually be so stupid to say this.