Guild Wars 2

Hildebert.4196:

EsLafiel

I am not getting a single grandmaster trait, the most I am spending in one line is the vit line with 25 in it.

You don’t have to use a grandmaster trait in a grandmaster slot. We have plenty of other decent traits, its just that the traits that unlock at the 30 point grandmaster level in any tree are godawful.

@shenhua
I was just going off secondhand information. Good to know we can mark another trait on the “Pitifully Bad” side.

Someone miss my point completely.

Guess I spell it out for you, the grandmaster skills are so bad, that it better for me to spread out my point instead of going for one.

Kurp.3207:

Mesmers lack the AoE to tag mobs fast enough to get loot and exp in events.

Funny I do it just fine, gs with sword/focus is great for high damage aoe.

Esp since you can pull mobs out of other people aoe before they get damage and then kill them your self in seconds.

Ya I dont try to act like my clones often, but I do sometimes when my hp is low. It good for giving you a good 10 secs to heal a lot of the time if done right.

Never understand when people say Mez arent good in a group.

Every single group ive been in for dgns, and Ive ran a ton.

Have always ended up where every one is depending on me to keep mobs under-control and to protect them in boss fights and such.

Had over 30 people friend list me, just so they can run dgns with me.

Found 2 others people who are very good to, and us 3 Me mesmer dub a theif and Ward a engi.

do explorable dgns the 3 of us.

So no Mez is good as hell.

T1 and T2 is fine at there price.

T3 is the only problem I have with. Maybe if it cost like 30g-60g for the entire set it would be fair.
But paying about 100g for it, is way to high.

I am not getting a single grandmaster trait, the most I am spending in one line is the vit line with 25 in it.

Are you can be smart about it, and when you use the burble in 1v1. Always keep the burble between you, even if you gotta go inside it.

Which I do a lot, that gives ya 6 secs to not be hurt, while you can be hitting him with long range and he may hut himself a bit.

Are you can watch people skills like the guardian spin move.
Then use it righ as he began. that usually do more then 10k damage to himself, then turn him into a moa, so he cant heal and take him down.

There a lot of great ways to use it.

Ryuujin.8236:

Gather round kiddies for I have a story to tell

Once upon a time there was a WoW clone called Allods online, and in it lived a special creature called a psionicist. They were a finicky beast with fiddly combos of skills; telekinetic pulls, time manipulation, illusions, controls and psychic assaults.

They were difficult to play and faired relatively poorly in PvE, but in PvP they really shone – all the other classes could only stand in awe, crying out “OMG NERF PSI”, even the faceroller classes like melee healer and summoner, for in this class they found a worthy adversary, even if they were numerically the rarest class.

Astrum Nival listened to their players and did as they said; every balance patch came along, and the developers nerfed another of Psionicists skills, and more players would abandon the class. But every patch the remaining psioncists would adapt, and the following night in the arena the other classes would one more scream “nerf psionicist”.

Eventually, the class was utterly nerfed into ruination, with hardly a single build that worked and so few players left they were literally known by name to the players of the North American servers, yet these scarce few remained a force to be reckoned with in the PvP arena.

The mistake everyone had made was believing that psionicist, with it’s confusing playstyle and complex skill interactions was overpowered at all; instead the classes complexity had drawn the strategists, tacticians and thinkers, with every nerf they simply refined the pool, and as it ultimately turned out, you can’t nerf a smart player.

Let that be a lesson. You can take the skills out of the class, but you can’t take the skill out of a player, and classes like the mesmer will always attract a different breed of player, one who could probably defeat a hundreds blade warrior armed with nothing more than a rusty piece of metal and a blob of gunk.

I like this post, I dont think I am that great of player, but I love to play the mez. So I dnt care how much they nerf it, it will always be my class to play.

Second, I dont agree on one thing, I believe Mez is awesome in PvE esp like dgn. But even in massive pve DE I do very well. Which I am not even aoe focus, I am control focus. sword/focus and gs.

I use the leap pretty often, and I find my self inside stairs, the ground and a lot more.

Well here a pic where it sent me under a dgn, into a gaint pool of water, where I could see all parts of the dgn from.

Just as all the rest, such small minded creatures.

First the pale tree, can make weapons that is beyond anything else out there. However, only it can make it and not anything that try and use it to make it.

Second animals burn better then plants.

Esp there fat can be use for multy things.

So we will use you instead, for are smelters.

The pale tree dont just stand there and do nothing.

It have so many use’s, it can make a army of it own. It can make extremely strong weapons. It makes clothing and so much more.

I understand you very well, you dont understand.

Gw1 WAS NOT a MMO, even the devs said this before. It was a online multyplayer game, but thats not so a OM is what it was.

Basically like a lot of Fps shooter games. Where you join rms and can play in them. Instead in this the city was the waiting place, that all the players was at. The outside of the cities was the rms you could join to play in.

In a real MMO, which gw2 is. You will have the problem of not feeling like you made that big of a difference most of the time.

Because you got to share the map with everyone else and it impossible to cater to just you. Unless it ignore rest of the players.

Which DE are closer then any other MMO system to letting the player feel like they change something.

You should try other real MMO, and then you will see how little you feel then. It will be NOTHING.

However, since I am control and not DPS. In a lot of boss fights I feel like i matter a lot.

Since a lot of the time I am holding the boss off most of the fight. Keeping him under control and letting other players dps saftly.
Which is very important in a fight.

I can see how DPS build would feel useless in a giant fight like that.

Since i follow DE around and watch the story unfold and I am control.
I love this system, the best in any MMO yet.

Still I cant wait until the zerg thins out a bit, then DE will even get better.

Well again, MAIN reason it so different is this is TRUE mmo and gw was NOT a real MMO.

Hello I am a sylvari and I am here looking for a pet.

Would anyone wanna come home with me.

I have treats for you nice little charr.

(plus I need a new rug)

Dafariel.6420:

Disastersaurus.3146:

Please spay and neuter your Charr today.

This is a public service announcement funded by the Sylvari Firstborn.

You overgrown scratching posts! Don’t make me use you for firewood !

Actually living plants, burn slower then animals.

Which means I am thinking of might gathering some nice charr to burn.

Plus we have poi,thorns, and a lot more, which is a lot worse then any little kitty claws.

Don’t you know the most deadliest thing on earth is a plant.

So unless you want a painful death. Get on your knee’s and purr like a good kittie and I might get you a treat.

I did not notice it, so hate that. Well then yes I want to back to.

I agree, I would like more option and I would not even mind making my Mesmer again, seeing how it would not be hard to lvl it fast. I can also just keep my stuff in the bank. So when I get to the lvl needed, I can just take the items out. Only thing that would suck is the dyes ive gotten so far and will get.

Well so hope in a expansions they spread out all teh option a lot more.

Well I notice it, and made my glow awesome.

Plz tell me this a jk, because the original picture of a Mesmer, when it came OUT.

Was it with a sword, it was always meant as a battle mage type of class.

Which is why I love it, I love being like a tough melee but with magic.

I do bleeding with them, and cripple when they die to all enemies.

Plus I get enemies to target them all the time.

So I really like them

Sword/focus and GS here.

We Charr did not give up when are land was destroyed, so why would I give up here. For I am Charr and we do not surrender to anything. I will proceed to this mist and I shall protect this world. So that I can keep my people safe and even if that means dealing with those who destroy are land, I will do it. I am an engineer and I will use my kits for this purpose. My home is steel and iron so it is strong and will hold up without me, it name is Black citadel. Then lastly is the one from the land that believe in gods. I am from the great city Divinity reach, I am human, we are protected by are gods and so now I will protect them. I will not let the world that they built be destroyed. I will also protect my Queen, even if it must be at a distance. For I am a guardian and we protect all those around us. This was final words for us, within this world for none of us spoke after this. We all just went towards the mist. This is goodbye to this world.

what would happen if a tie went on to long. The info I got back was all 3 worlds would ram into each other. That would case all to be destroyed and so that must never happen.
The last bit of info I got was, if we enter we will not be remembered. If we manage to come back, then every time we out of sight of someone there memories will be erase of us. It will be impossible for us to live a life here, and so I wonder how everyone could know of the mist if no one can truly know of it. The conclusion I came to was that the mist is something everyone is born with knowledge of and yet no one knows of it. So as I prepare to get ready for the mist. I notice the other four was doing the same. I remember at that moment. That there were four other beings with me, all of different sizes and shape. When I was entering the mist and so I knew I would never be alone. That this four will always be with me and so that gave me strength to go into the mist without a single fear in my heart. I heard that there was a stone through, this stone came from the mist, so whatever is written down is never erase. That if we write things down, it will be the one thing that’s not erase as we enter the mist.
So we all wrote down a piece of what we was, we decided to go in order of who join the group. So I went first and I wrote this. I was born in the city known as the Grove, I am a sylvari we are the only sentient plant life form that is known of. I focus my training in Mesmer; we are the illusions of life. I am young, but my knowledge comes from 250 years and so I hope I can change the fate of this world, even by a little within the mist. So I say goodbye to this world. Next was the one from the mountains. I am from Hoelbrak. I am Norn, I am ranger and I have control over wild life. I will crush any foe who gets in my way. After that was the little one from the high tech city. From the great city Rata Sum, unlike others I am not heading to the mist for protecting, but to study and to fix it, to end this endless cycle of death, for I am Asura and we fix anything and upgrade everything. I am an elemental; I use technology to control the world. Then next came the one from the destroyed land that refuse to submit to anything.

A male from this palace, a personal guard of the Queen called upon us. It seems the Queen had taken notice of us. Of a strange group traveling, one that make up 1 from each of the great cities. When we came to her, it seemed as if she wanted to know what could have happen to have made such a strange group. We all told her are reasons, even he who dislike them. Mumble his reason to her, which truly anger the male guard and yet the queen did not care. She just smiles upon him. However, it was strange, such a kind Queen and yet she ignore all the reasons, but the one I gave. It as if she believe the rest was fake and only my own was true. So she decided to tell us about a trade post, but like no other trade post. A post that was as big as a city. It was where all people came to meet, even those who was hidden and kept their own cities hidden. It was also the entrance to the mist as it seemed. She sent her personal guard, the male who sent us to the queen. The reason that was known was, he will help protect us until we enter the mist. The one who holds a shield and a sword that protects all around him, but I did not notice that would give us one being from each of the great cities.
Well it was not a long journey, since it was not one made by foot. Only way to get to the trade post was a gate. Once we were in the great trade post, I saw beings from place’s I never heard of. This was the end of our journey and yet the start of a new. Yet before we start the new, we must learn about the mist. What is it and why will no one talk about it directly. We of course got are answer, and the answers were.
The Mist is a place between worlds, more correctly between dimensions. The worlds on the other side are almost the same, but with a few differences in it. It these lines are crashing all around us. There is no way to fix it, only to take the spot that is left. They do not know how many of these barrels will fall. However, ever time it does three worlds clash and only one can take the spot that is left. So in the end two worlds will disappear each time. The mist is where people from each world come to fight; those who win will gain the spot and those who lose, will be as if there world never existed. I wonder

city was one big factory. That made multiply different things, which were mostly different weapons. I had never seen such fierce beings before. Yet such loyalty as to walk off a cliff if a superior told you to. I knew at the time I was being fool hearty when I thought it, but I was just hoping that it would be the way I wanted it to be. That they would be so fierce that not even the mist would tame them. Yet again I was disappointed, even here only whispers were around. However, it was strange because yet again another being wanted to join us. His reasons were he wanted to find the weakness of the other beings out there, to protect his own. Yet like I felt with the rest, his motives were not actually shown. Even with she who came from the mountains, I did not feel like she was being true to why she wanted to come. However, the road is dangerous and he has kits for almost everything. That was made in the factories of his people. So I accepted it as the leader of the group and we went down the road again.
This time decided to head to a city, one that was built as the final hope for the religious beings. Those who would do anything to protect their Queen and gods, yet these are the beings that had the Great War with he who was my newest companion. So I did not know what would happen as I reach there, since I am sure these two will still have great hatred towards one another. However, I did know the Queen that was in power, was the one who wanted the peace and made peace between the two. So I knew at least by law they would not be allow to hurt him. Also I did not know if he would start something, since they did destroy his land. Yet I needed to go there because they were the only one. That was left out of the five great cities that I might learn something from. Yes of course there were others, but as of now they had been cut off from us, we did not know if we could even get to any of them. So we went to the fifth and last city. As we reach there, it was truly a sight to behold. There was no real nature in the city and yet it was beautiful, everything was built by artiest it seems. By this time I knew it, even though I did not want to accept it, yet it will happen. I was right as well, only whisper about the mist was around, but we seem to have some luck.

made me very excited to see it and so we headed toward it. Then when we finally reach are goal of arriving there. We saw advancements, which seemed to be impossible that it seemed as if it was done by magic. One which we saw was objects moving, believe it was called a golem and it did all the jobs around. So that the citizens could spend their time doing research in their choice of field, to advance them even further along. There was also a thing made of light, that was are guide through the city and if I am right it was called a hologram. To my companion who was mostly a brute, she who never use her mind. She was by far more confused than I ever was doing this time. However, it would have hurt her pride if I tried and help. The beings that lived here was also as weird as those who lived in the mountains. Yet in a different way, these were the smallest being I’ve ever seen. They was also the must arrogant, they believed them self to be superior to all others. I believed they would have records about the Mist, since they recorded everything. Even the children was doing research and recording everything they saw. Yet again, they were only whisper about the place. No one dare to actually talk about the place. So I and my friend decided to move on. Yet before we did one of these small and arrogant, but by far intelligent beings ask to come with us. I wonder why and so the answer was that she wanted to explore the world and learn about how everything works, which we would make excellent bodyguards for her. However, this hurt my company pride and so she got into a fight with this small being. Yet I saw that this being, was not helpless. She could control things that were beyond most others understanding. So I knew that was not the real reason and since I allowed it my friend accepted it. So we left this city within the jungle.
Before we left we mark the next place we would go and soon enough we reach the next great city, this one had no living plants. Nothing could grow there, and the small one. Told us a story of a great war, the war between two different beings that was so great that it had destroyed the land, and how the side that retook the land. Still did not abandon it after it was destroyed, they stayed with it and even today try and repair it. It was as if they were felines with none of the traits. They had a city, but there

I don’t like putting effort into things, that might suck anyway.
So I did a quick 30min free-write, of a story I was thinking about.
So yes grammar and everything else will suck, remember FREEWRITE.

Well give me your opinion on this, if ya don’t mind. If i get enough comments. I might make a story from it.

As I woke up from my dream, as I took my first breath into this new world. I woke up in a city, but not like those that may be known. This city was made of trees we did not cut it that way, it grew that way. It grew special for us and so did the cloths we wear. Then I began to notice whisper about the mist and I was drawn into it. Maybe it was because my dream showed me the mist and so I was beckon towards it. Yet no one ever said it out loud, there was only whispers of it and so I could never figure out where and how to enter this mist. That is when I decided to travel until. So that I may discover this Mist, I set my eyes on the mountains ahead. Yet it would take many months to get there, which even being new to this world I knew the road was dangerous. However, I was confident in my ability to trick anything and to escape when needed, for I seemed to have skills of a trickery nature and so I started my journey.
So after some time I reach the snowy mountains, which the beings that lived there was broader and taller than anyone I’ve ever seen, you could have even called them giants. Here you hear nothing but tales of the Mist and how only the greatest can enter it. So I believe I could have found it from here, but no. Even here where they were so proud of those who enter the Mist, they still dare not talk about the entrance to it. However, before I moved on I saw one who needed help. It was her brother, he had been twisted. He could not handle the destruction of his family grounds and so he changes to a thing that was unrecognizable and yet his sister recognizes him. There was no cure for him and so we had to do the ultimate maser and put him down, before another would fall to his madness. Sadly there was no law here, there was no system. So cases like this had to be taken care of like this. However, you see these beings would not let a debt go unpaid. These beings prides was bigger than the mountain they lived upon. So in the end she came with me, as a bodyguard. She was better with a bow then anyone I’ve ever saw. However, what truly amaze me were her great-sword abilities.
So we decided to head to the next great city, a city I’ve herd to be the most advance city there is and yet to be surrender by nature. One that was built within nature without destroy nature, which

EasymodeX.4062:

GS/Staff has always been better than Sword+Focus for PvE.

… ?

Also, just so you know, gold contribution is extremely, extremely easy to get and requires almost zero effort.

What most people complain about is tagging all the mobs for loot. For that, you want GS and Illusory Persona.

Edit: Most people are using phantasm army builds with Staff and Sword/Pistol, which is a rather poor combination for tagging mobs. Most bad players are unwilling to hold other weapon types in their inventory slots, and swap them out as needed. So, you get these threads.

Mesmers still take more effort to tag all mobs than an Engi or Elementalist, but it’s on par with most of the classes.

Plz tell me you high are something.

Sword/focus is epic for PvE, esp for dungeons.

Then for reg PvE, it sitll epic. I can pull a giant mob into one spot then aoe the crap out of them. In a lot of DE even with a lot of people around, I always can pull groups to me before other players hit them. actually a lot of the time it cause them to miss. Because they aiming where they was, esp like the ele.

Yes it can hit multy target. Because you see it copy your weapon. Which the sword hits multy targets when it swing, what every in it field get hit. So yes what every they hit will get this bleeds and such on them.

Second it hits 3 target, the same as the staff one. Which yes again it does the side effect to them.

I’m a Mesmer, and in ever single Dgn. I’ve done, I been a major control if not the only one.

For example, In AC with the lovers. I kept the guy to the side the entire time, he could not get to her at all. I kept him focus only on me.

In Ta as another example, at the nerc boss, I was able to keep all poi spiders to the side. So my team could focus more on boss(trust me if ya done it you know, the spiders is the only real hard part of the fight) and then at the end of that dgn. I kept Logan, golem and rack busy. While team killed the 2 long rang. However even through I was mostly pulling them. I got there hp pretty low.

So no, as a mesmer I do major control in a dgn and my damage not to bad.

Sword/focus and gs

I have a trait, that makes my clones do bleeding damage to enemies and so they do pretty good damage with me, plus I use sword. So they do bleeding and vul to enemies and cripple them when there killed. In all my clones are awesome.

Sword/Focus for the win

Avalron.1569:

Pyrite.9641:

The amazing artwork. And I stayed for the racial skills.
-Sylvari Elementalist
D/D air/water

Till you go into fire spec, then nothing makes sense anymore……

I personally liked the artwork on the.

Actually no, living plants burn slower then humans.

Edit,,,now I played one because I love this type of race. Always have, and always will.
However, they took it to the next lvl with this race. It better then any other that ive every play.

I live the talking, the looks, the lore, the ps, the bio. I LOVE everything about them.

I even love nightmare court, it adds so much more to it.

Mezian.3248:

to be honest, WvWvW is not the best place to be even ATTEMPTING to play melee, unless you find 1-2 enemies on their own. WvWvW seems to be all about the AoE spam, even though it was not meant to be that way. Lich form got u down? turn it into a moa. too may spellcasters/rangers/ranged thieves/warriors? use your feedback bubble, and watch them take themselves out (it’s pretty funny!). The guardian you fought may have been a lv 80 in full lv 80 exotics, stacking toughness/vitality… this would result in her defence being EXTREMALLY high, and she would take little damage from your attacks. My suggestion? either turn her into a moa and drop her health before she has the chance to pop out, or swap to staff and apply as many conditions as you can (toughness doesn’t effect conditions).

I don’t agree, I play melee in WvW and with a back up GS. Main is Sword/focus, and I can go right into the center of a zerg and get out alive.

Viel/decoy/ portal/illusion of life/def phant and for elite I use Moa.

I switch between these utilities depending on what I am doing.

I put a portal in a safe place, then ram a zerg and people are stupid. So most always aim for me thinking easy kill. I can survive for a good 10 sec sometimes longer and I am good at porting out right before I die, usually have less then 1khp when i get out(also very rarely die). That gives the people on my side that long with out many people attacking them. Also against walls, I can pull massive people off the siege weapons up there and down to the ground. The cripple immb and push them further away until they dead.

I am a control class, so I treat players the same as mobs. I control them. To help out my team, I dont try and kill.

Only time I go for actually fighting, is when I am running around and run into 1 are 2.

I have a ideal, look at the weapons for the lvl 55 dgn. They all plant made and I think they look awesome. Plus if you dont like teh states then just transmute them(that what i am going to do)

Malakree.5912:

when needed to get dis, I use GS and it does the job I want it to do. very well

Use staff instead, way better.

First dont tell me what to use, second no it not. Not how I use it. When I need to get distance fast. The staff cant do that, it can a bit with number 2 and 5 can, but fear is low%.

Ive play with both a lot, and for how I use a secondary weapon. I dont use it for damage are support. just use it for a fast get away. It the best there is.

Not me, I see it as a retreat weapon. it good for how I use it. I am sworrd/focus and when needed to get dis, I use GS and it does the job I want it to do. very well

Malakree.5912:

no it not, it just one of the many things they have. There is multy builds where illu plays almost no part in it at all.

Just not a good build which isn’t illusion (or phantasm) based.

God wrong, my build is semi phant base, but even that is secondary. Which in Dgn ive always been the control and so far. Tons of people really like my play style and thought I was a great control.

Also I see CD base builds, where phant, and clones have nothing added to them in traits are anything.

yes in all builds you use them in fights, but in all builds you use some conditions as well. That does not make all builds that.

Petuleme Igeebobo.7329:

EsLafiel.4517:

Sorry no, saying Mesmers are squishy. Shows you dont know much about them.

They one of the best control class’s in the game(meaning one of the easiest to do control with). Meaning being up close in the enemies face and keeping them under control.

I am Melee on my Mesmer 70% of the time, if not more.

With Sword/Focus you can put out really good aoe damage as well, while at same time doing control.

In PvE ive control over 10mobs solo before. This is with being melee for pretty much the entire time.

You are a better player than me. I suck so bad at melee in this game that I’ve chosen staff and greatsword so I can play at range. I enjoy the Mesmer very much until I face a thief or ranger 1v1 on PvP…haha.

There a lot more, but I tell you a basic combo for sword/focus to own a good size group.

Us 4 then place 4 again, if place right. You pull all mobs near into one small area. Then use 3 and 3 again to immb them, use 5 and then 2.

Most reg mobs, would be own by this combo. Because 5 phant does aoe to anyone near it and 1 and 2 of the sword is the same, does aoe to anything near you.

Plus 5 is really high dam, as well as 2 and if ya use 1 to stack teh vul, then they do even more. I have decoy and def phant rdy if needed. Plus number 5 protects you from all projectiles.

Thats a basic knowledge, but the build is a lot more then that.

Sorry no, saying Mesmers are squishy. Shows you dont know much about them.

They one of the best control class’s in the game(meaning one of the easiest to do control with). Meaning being up close in the enemies face and keeping them under control.

I am Melee on my Mesmer 70% of the time, if not more.

With Sword/Focus you can put out really good aoe damage as well, while at same time doing control.

In PvE ive control over 10mobs solo before. This is with being melee for pretty much the entire time.

Limnage.9581:

Mesmer is by far the worst class in PvE. Our main profession mechanic (illusions) is rendered completely useless in Dynamic Events because mobs die too fast for Mesmers to use illusions.

no it not, it just one of the many things they have. There is multy builds where illu plays almost no part in it at all.

Bolt.1736:

Cameirus.8407:

Bolt.1736:

Rhyno.7084:

Mesmers are not handicapped when it comes to PvE.

maybe shed some light on how we aren’t? i’m sure i’m not the only one who think this way since there are other posts on the forum about how useful we are during DEs..

we are very useful during DEs, the issue is not with us but how event contribution works.

mesmers pwn in pve, its almost impossible to die, and you can take whole groups of mobs easy, sure our immediate nukes are low, but you can stack conditions on multiple enemies at once and the dmg ramps up.

Could you expand on why you think mesmers are lacking in pve?

i think what darq says pretty much summed it up
this thread also talks about it
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/General-concerns-about-the-Mesmer-class/first#post58571

but anyway what i noticed is that in group PvE, the mobs often dies before we can get anything off
yes we can get gold contribution easily but often i get so little loot its just sad

Sword/focus, in DE I can pull entire groups to me, before anyone else get a chance to attack them. Then Warden, then immb them then BF, and they dead by then, are close to it. Really high damage.

Why does everyone always overlook the Sword/focus aoe. It can easily be the highest aoe dam for the mesmer.

So plz tell me how does everyone overlook it???

Legionaru.5029:

well mate you are not doing anything wrong – im not a hater i reached lvl 80 but they nerfed the mesmer so bad u wont recognize him if u played in any bwe .

First off : u get stuck under map in terain using skill #2 on Staff
2 : in PVE if u fight a mob and at the middle of the fight u want to get invizible (trait skill) the mob still hits you (also in wvw but i will reach that later)
3: the damage on GS-GreatSword is a joke at low lvl – its very hard to do anything and even frustrating .
4. Staff will be prety usless on big lvl mobs or wvw . 2 slow , 2 weak.
5.i dont understand why u (ANet) created this class when i saw other classes having/leaving clones- dissapearing – beeing ivisible and so on , i dont realy see the point .
6. in WvW u have Decoy and Teleport to help you ..both break stun …well only in theory …i still receve more than enough hits (not from conditions- i watched closely several days this stuff) , so i get in stealth – receve hits …teleport siystem is rudimentary you loose time until u do that and in all this time from the moment u became stealth to the actual moment u teleport u receve hits EVEN THOW YOU ARE INVIZIBLE – i will keep repeating this.
7. From Bwe you -Anet- made the #3 skill on GS a waste of time – in Bwe u had the moob in target u presed #3 skill the character stoped put in mark on the ground and stabbed him fast- it was automatic …. now if i want to use #3 skill i have to stand still and calculate where it will be ….thx for making me not be squishy …..
8. in Pve most times ilusions phantasm are useles ,they dont camuflage me…or make the mob lose interest in me ….the mob still hits me and focus me no mather what…also what did u fed the mobs? in every posible situation even if they are dead ..risen..zomby etc etc they are on Red Bull they run faster than me …hit me like crazy and etc…u cant run from them – kite them , dodge is good…only for 2 times…so…BS.
9. from a logical point of view i am a class that doesent fight face to face nor in front line so as my #8 stated i want my illusions / phantasm take priority on mob , and if i am “clicked” in wvw the player who has me in target to loose me and select me again….its only logical….if i dissapear and ilusion came out the player to have to click for me not hit me while i am stealth – and by that stealth is usless.
10. as #8 and #10 stated i am a class that needs to be squishy i dont have defence – attack is somehow medium even if i am power all the way also u removed some good stuff from what i select when i put the 30 points …..so i dont have defence , i have medium attack..what am i? do i need to change class to enjoy this game?
why did u feel the need to nerf the mesmer but the ranger is ok? if i run on a short bow ranger i take masive dmg …also the frustrating pet of his….plase give him ( the ranger) more advantages ….i know i know i am a hater …but at first with all the heals on guardian – and the sheer nubmer of noobs playing guardian for this reason and this alone its the most played class- i thought guardians would be op …but no ..its the ranger…sure he dies faster than me …but he hits more harder…mor further….and has a pet …that its just annoying…if the pet was like a bag extra slot or smt….would of been fine…but he can bufff….defend…kite…attack….but i guess only the mesmer should be nerfed….
11. let me have more decision’s to make about my character don’t force me to go 1 way or the other – the 2 obvious ways are all attack or all defence in which point both are wrogn…and a hibrid don’t work you just end with no attack and no defence ….raise the damage and the area of effect of spells – want more aoe skills not only on staff …. and nurf the ranger.

Only thing I agree with is the number 3 skill on greatsword, that is mess up.

However the rest is wrong, In dgn I am the main control almost always.
I can easily do tons of aoe damage with sword/focus more then any other combo of weapons. I dont do the highest damage, but I do pretty good damage. Plus I have mobs going for my clones and phant all the time.

Kelthien.8593:

I’ve been using GS/Staff with a 20/20/0/0/30 build. Lots of clones, lots of shatters.

I haven’t used Scepter or OH sword much… I hated the Block mechanic. Mediocre damage and a long pause while I wait for my foe to strike. Also little to no AoE which leaves me high and dry in end-game dynamic events.

What are you guys doing to enjoy it so much?

Sword/focus gives you the highest amount of Aoe damage possible with the Mesmer. If you do the combo right.
First number 4 skill to pull all enemies close togetehr then number 3 two times to imb them, then number 5(which is a phant that does aoe damage and highest amount of dam, then number 2 a aoe that does high dam as well.
Even the number 1 skill is aoe, not wide rang, but if ya pull them together properly then wide enough.

DeathByCactus.3954:

Keep using the sword in pvp… the number 2 is worthless 1v1.

Not it not, it a good counter. When other class like thief go for a major melee damage attack. You can use it. So there attack does nothing and you hurt them. Like the warrior spin move that can do over 10k dam. You can completely counter it and do dam to them at same time.

Vvix.9570:

I have a really weird love/hate relation with focus(and I know I’m not alone here), I always have one, and probably end up using it at one of my weapon sets 80% of the time. The warden is by far the biggest dps phantasm there is(esp if combined with phantasmal haste) for us mesmer, granted we need still targets for it to be actually effective… and there it lies the core of my love/hate relationship with the focus. The curtain is just an incredible skill(especially for WvW) and a huge plus to me when I’m deciding between focus and other offhand for the present situation.

Aside from focus I consider greatsword to be the weapon I use in most cases, it’s just straight good damage and range, and I’m a fan of both(even tho I hope they’ll make our GS skill #3 be a litttle better in the future…)

Everyone seems to love staff, and with good reason, it’s one of the most solid weapons for mesmer, but for me it just doesn’t seem THAT appealing, although I still use it in Spvp atm. Maybe I need to try it more at WvW.

At the moment the combination I’m running is Scepter + focus(or pistol) and GS at pve and WvW.

I so agree on this, I love the GS but I never use number 3.

It makes you stop and strike the ground. Which my normal attack does about the same dam. yes it a aoe but not even a big one.

Well I use GS for control, when I am weak(use sword/focus, and switch to GS when needs to retreat a bit and take a breath)

So yes number 3 skill is useless to me, and really hope they change it. I mean if it makes you stop to use it. Then it should be more powerful, because stopping like that can get you hurt.

Andrew.2015:

Neszy.2960:

Sword/Pistol and Staff. Seems everyone uses it – right so I say.

Easily the best combo we have so far. Scepter, OHsword, Focus, and GS are okay, but lack the versatility. Sword/Pistol is great offensive pressure while providing defense with #2 and #5. Staff is also great defense whilst providing buffs for offense.

Sword/focus is much better then sword/pistol.

The phant does more damage and if place right, protects the entire team from projectiles for a good 5 secs.

The other skill is much better and a shorter cooldown as well.

Swift and cripples enemies, and that alone would make it better. But it other thing makes it by far better. It also can be act.

Which when does pull all enemies to it. So if you have multy enemies you can pull all into one spot and easily immbo them all warden and blurred, with that you can kill 5+ enemies with out being hit.

In Pvp if someone running away you can pull them to you as well as cripple them at same time. In WvW you can pull massive people off the walls and off the siege weapons.
In the WvW jp, I was able to hold off 10+ people in one spot using it and portal.

Also using it and IW I was able to pull a gaint zerg off a clif to there death in WvW.

A lot more, but point is Sword/focus rocks hard.

Well I use Sword/focus and greatsword(sometimes take off greatsword for staff)

SevenSigma.7462:

I’d argue for Sword/Focus over Sword/Pistol. Focus gives you a speed buff that doubles as a combo field in battle, and the Phantasmal Warden is INSANE. Coupled with Feedback/Moa, you can make ranged mobs completely useless.

Awesome, someone else knowws about sword/focus. However you do know the Tp on focus not just swifts, but cripples enemies, and the major thing of it is. If ya press 4 again after putting it down. It pulls all enemies to it. Which is extremely useful.

When a Dragon bigger then your city pops up, and can destroy mountains like it nothing. Change the landscape just by flying over it.

Usually it will get people who dislike each other to work together.

You know the Enemy of my Enemy is my friend.

Well basically they had no choice, they aren’t stupid.

Plus there are groups of Charr who hates the alliance and try to destroy it, as well as being groups of humans who try and destroy the alliance with the charr as well.

Lucky those in charge, notice that if they dont stop the fighting. The dragons will kill them.

Are you high are something, this game is not base on it. It may be 30% at max what this game is about.

20% for spvp, 30% for WvW and 50% for Pve. At lest that what the devs want it to be.(Unless they change there mind)

Which I my self spends less then 20% of my time in WvW, among a lot of other people I know. It fun, but this game is not base on it.

I’m a mesmer and I had no prob with this quest at all.

Was very easy one.

The aoe knockback and knockdown, for when enemies get to close. Which both have short cooldown. Then the numebr 2 that have no cooldown on it and is long rang.

So I kite them with that and knockdown/back when they got to close. Almost never was hit, found it way to easy.

None is overpower, not what is overpower. Is some of the players, some of the players are way overpower because of there skill. We should nerf them, cut off a finger are something. To keep them from being overpower, who else agrees.

I am hoping, that was a fake are a faint. Which you will fight Zhaitan for real later on.

I did the 3 day head start and play a ton each day.

Myabe it just me, but I see myself playing this game for a longkitten time.

I am lvl 45, mesmer. I go back and redo so many things over and over again. I love the jumping puzzle, just the one in WvW EB. Ive done enough to get about 50 siege weapons from. Which you get 2 siege weapons each run(sometimes more, but ave is 2).
So just the jps alone, I can see myself doing for years to come. I also love the personal story. Like when the charr turn into a human girl, he was walking around saying I am a pretty girl and such.

I found it funny as hell, so I will wanna see the other story lines to. If Orr is a gaint war zone, that works kinda like WvW. Then I can see myself doing that a lot. WvW I can also see my self doing. The mini games, and sPvp, among other things.

Other then Planetside 2(for my FPS itch), this will be the game I will play for years.
Unless they really mess up something.