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anet says mesmer nuke nerf

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This is not about balance they listen to players that want to kill the class
just do daily with DH in the meanwhile and dont play more pvp until they fix it.

Why this hate on mesm!???

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A problem is Chrono offers such basic quality of life features that it pretty much “fixes” what is wrong with core Mesmer – for example Chronophantasma, Time Catches Up, Time Marches On, Illusionary Reversion…

I mean, look how tied we were to Duelling for DE before HoT. Now it’s Inspiration because it offers so much in terms of survival and Chrono because DE isn’t mandatory anymore.

What I don’t like is how trait lines are such All or Nothing choices – it forces builds into any given line depending on the state of the game.
Want passable condi cleanse? Must take Inspiration. Want to play conditions? Must take Illusions. What decent clone/phantasm generation? Must take Duelling and/or Chronomancer. Want to play dps? Must take Domination.

I just don’t agree with the “high level” theory behind what trait lines should be as it creates forced choices and restrictions, and mesmer is especially subject to this problem.

Just a question. How do you suggest they set up the trait system? Be able to take any trait and any utility and have it work with any weapon on any class with any amulet in any situation? What would be the point of builds? Each trait line, as you’ve stated, serves a purpose. You have options for everything. Take what you want but know that you’ll be lacking in certain areas, unless you want to have everything which would, again, make builds pointless.

Exactly this.

EVERYTHING SINGLE PROFESSION IS WORKING LIKE THIS.
Mesmer is not the exception here.
Mesmer’s traitlines are better than most of the classes post June patch actually.
Stop lying about core Mesmer doesn’t work. It worked way back in June after the overtuned.

Yea and it was quickly undertuned. We lost a extra bounce on mirror blade.
they nerfed mantra cooldowns and PU + something else i don’t remember.
but it made it as bad as pre patch.

Why this hate on mesm!???

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You cant nerf mesmer without nerfing ranger try killing ranger bunker with any mesmer build you wont be able to do it.

Thats.. because… its a bunker >_>
You can’t kill any bunker 1v1…

Yea i’sent that exactly why they want mesmer nerfed ?

Why this hate on mesm!???

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You cant nerf mesmer without nerfing ranger try killing ranger bunker with any mesmer build you wont be able to do it.

Why this hate on mesm!???

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Because they got killed by mesmer. Next day they lose to something else
and is back on the forum to get that nerfed too.
Notice how the most played classes are the least complained about.

Too many bad players.

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They got that rank farming pugs as premades even a monkey can do that.
Thats why this game need seperate soloq .
and queue for 2-3 players and queue for full teams.
esport is a JOKE in this game explain why none play dragonhunter and even somone RQ.

Downfall of Gw2

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Hopefully you have realised this already and understand that people quit for this reason

No most players quit because they finished hot already or 95% of it.

Source?

I don’t have a source i just know the new maps are more desserted than before.
after just 1 week i saw many lvl 50-120 players.
OP dont have a source of bad class balance either.
In pvp i see all classes except for warriors there is lots of thieves but it still sucks.
Stacked teams usually lose except for dragonhunters.

What if someone else “just knows” that it’s doing fine. What do we do then?
Hitchen’s razor: What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Then you can dismiss OP too because no evidence.

I have.
His faulty reasoning and missuse of the term Pay to Win has been pointed out multiple times in this topic.

Maybe you should apply for work at arenanet.
As statistic analyst you know. so you can get the evidence.

Downfall of Gw2

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Hopefully you have realised this already and understand that people quit for this reason

No most players quit because they finished hot already or 95% of it.

Source?

I don’t have a source i just know the new maps are more desserted than before.
after just 1 week i saw many lvl 50-120 players.
OP dont have a source of bad class balance either.
In pvp i see all classes except for warriors there is lots of thieves but it still sucks.
Stacked teams usually lose except for dragonhunters.

What if someone else “just knows” that it’s doing fine. What do we do then?
Hitchen’s razor: What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Then you can dismiss OP too because no evidence.

Downfall of Gw2

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Hopefully you have realised this already and understand that people quit for this reason

No most players quit because they finished hot already or 95% of it.

Source?

I don’t have a source i just know the new maps are more desserted than before.
after just 1 week i saw many lvl 50-120 players.
OP dont have a source of bad class balance either.
In pvp i see all classes except for warriors there is lots of thieves but it still sucks.
Stacked teams usually lose except for dragonhunters.

Suck at Love (Banned)

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Grind Wars is a named deserve by over 90% of MMORPGs imo. It was easy to obtain gold in GW1 just by salvaging for the materials and selling the mats in Kamadan.

It’s much harder in GW2 due to many circumstance, we should also not ignore the elephant in the corner either, that it’s very alluring for a business model to have vested interest in making it harder due to the cash > gems > gold path way they have built into the game, and if you’re the beholder of a cynical attitude you can see that caked over every part of the game as a whole, the most difficult of questions to ask how to fairly balance the issue for both the company and the user of the system so that both are equally rewarded.

GW1 System was far superior when it comes to the economy, if only because you couldn’t buy gold “legally” you had to earn it.

There were more bots in GW1 than in GW2, there was another great purging of bots in GW1 in 2014. Several GW1 players turn to illegal sites, since you could not buy currency legally in GW1 with real money. GW1 is superior in several areas but when it comes to preventing bots GW2 wins, imo.

Bots have been in gw2 by thousands people just don’t bother looking for them.
I have been watching some of them in orr with high ap.
which could mean its hacked acccount.

Let's all just move

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Move to Tera Online EU on Arcadia server <3

Downfall of Gw2

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Hopefully you have realised this already and understand that people quit for this reason

No most players quit because they finished hot already or 95% of it.

Suck at Love (Banned)

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The anime race thread got DELETED and this not ANET YOU ARE DISSAPOINTING !

2015 to 2016? What do we want more of!?

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Did anet ever listen to these forums? I mean even the betatesters were ignored.

Their manifesto
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Not so accurate.

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Your top 3 specs that should be nerfed?

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Honestly they need to nerf all elite specs to the levels of Daredevil and Beserker.

Those are the ONLY balanced elite specs in this game. I’m not even going to get into which builds are super OP and need nerfed, because all of them need to get pummeled with the nerf bat repeatedly

When that happen is the time when i quit pvp
1.1.1.1 with sword zzzzzz

you know mesmer used to be free kills for theif for 2 years .
Only some gimmick build which was not viable for anything had a chance.
Now we have a fighting chance and suddenly its op you guys had it too easy.
Also there was a time when hambow could sit on a point
with longbow and never die with insane passive defense.
you had you’re fun do not bring mesmers down to useless again.

Thief (and Warrior ) is fine

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The only thing they need to nerf on theif is infiltrator arrow
Because then their mobility is no longer fine and they can start buffing it to compensate.

Your top 3 specs that should be nerfed?

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all elites/classes should be brought down to thief/war level

do u realise how selfish u r it will make 90% of the players quit pvp

Your top 3 specs that should be nerfed?

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1. Warrior / theif is useless – get on my level
2. Everyone else balanced.

I've always wondered why Human Female...

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Because player’s love cute characters and the other race are so ugly asura is cool.
In Tera human is the least played race. Elins,Elf and castanic are way more popular.
Maybe because guys like to look at hot chicks sure.
But I also think it’s because other races are bland and boring and lack character customisation. Humans have more faces to choose from. Better looking armor.

HoT is not challenging

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The only challenging part is finding a decent group for raid.

So I ended up on the GW1 wiki emote page...

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Gw1 also had a cool dance for every class and gender while in gw2 there is one boring one for each race. Best one is the Sylvania dance imo.

Auto Upgrades is Killing the game

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The main problem with these maps I think is that it take too long to run into player’s
Maybe if they make a stackable +50% speed buff out of combat with 2min Cd
Since combat against players is what it takes to save it.

Rise of the Bunker

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Now that the HoT meta is starting to settle anyone else notice that a handful of elites have become nearly unkillable in skirmish without heavy focus and many of these builds maintain a solid DPS?

Sustain has become too prolific in my opinion at least on builds that can output decent DPS. I have completely stopped engaging Dragon Hunters, Tempests and Scrappers. Any of the bunker Chronomancers also get a pass.

Not sure if this is a good or bad thing but a lot of fights have become an exercise in futility or a bring three friends sort of deal.

This is where being rubbish at 1v1 has it’s benefits. I can’t tell if someone amazing killed me or whether is was an OP class. I’ll always say it’s an OP class tbh.

No one has to be rubbish at 1v1 anymore.

If you are, just pick up one of the pay2win elites.

Nothing in this game is pay2win, quit misusing the term.

Considering the balance between elite specializations and core, the game absolutely is P2W.

Now you are just grasping for straws try playing actual p2w games like aion or archage.
The grind is like doing dungeon master
every week for years.

[Suggest] Turn Dragonshirt into armor piece

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But they turned the Gw2 cap into a armor piece too.
It was in the Gemstore for around 2 weeks after the game’s launch, so not everyone has it.

A heck of a lot more people got that cap than the few hundred that got the shirt. The shirt required you to go to a convention, possibly on another continent, and be one of the few to get the card with the code, at most a few hundred people got it. The hat was given to anyone who logged on during that period of time (which was a time when most of the 2 million or so people who had bought the game at launch were still actively playing) and got it for free from the gem store by pushing a button.

It’s a matter of time and money. The cap was common enough that they decided it was worth the time and money spent to convert it to an armor piece. The shirt is so rare that probably only a handful of current players have it and since it’s a commemorative piece, I don’t see them making it widely available. They never have before to my knowledge.

so what ? it take arenanet 2 minutes to change it rare stuff is cool
they was there to get it we wasen’kittens fine.
Why make any towncloth to armor if not all ?? tonics are waste of space.

What is the point of melee in this game?

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Melee SUX magic ftw

Why cant monster have injury marks

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Think its because game is rated pegi 12 else don’t see why not more realistic.

Nerf OP classes, or buff weak classes?

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Buff theif and warrior i love power creep and burst builds
also buff mantras and izerker then mirrorblade back to 4 bounces.

Idea: Overpopulation Debuff

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Encourage people to not play is a horrible idea
If they have more players they should win to rank up next mu will be more even.

Why is nobody playing

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Why is nobody playing?…

Because the bl maps are not great and wvw lacks rewards.

I’m very confused. You are asking why the bl maps are empty… So I’m telling you why those maps are empty. I’m also adding in the fact that wvw itself is not rewarding enough for most players.

I’m not sure how much more clear I could be.

Its not rewarding enough why was it rewarding enough pre hot?
then it was 3 times more players actually queue on 2 or 3 borders instead of just EB
why did anyone play it at all pre ord since its not rewarding? but not now ?

Was EVERY server’s bl and EB filled to the brim with players dying to play wvw before HoT?

I dont know but my was and not anymore.

That answer was a no unfortunately… That’s what I’m talking about…

I see do you think there is any hope for wvw or will everyone quit ?

Also black desert is coming out in 2016 im exited to try it out might leave gw2 a while

Best CPU?

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40% is the macro performance, the entire CPU average across all cores. However the game’s main event thread, like any thread, can’t exceed the performance of a single core. This is a primary factor that limits overall frame rate since this main thread is looping for every frame. Therefore overclocking the CPU, or using a CPU that can do more instructions per second, will allow more loops of this thread in the same amount of time and thus more frames.

Now there’s a 2nd major thread, actually a pair, which is the calls to Dx9 in the game and the graphics driver. Together these pair of threads also don’t exceed the performance of a single core and usually takes less time to run than the primary thread. Improving your GPU reduces the overall time of the driver thread takes to run but the pair is dependent on the main thread to assemble all the information for the next frame, the performance gain isn’t as great as games where GPU performance is the bottleneck.

This information is from watching the various threads in the game code running while playing.

I dont want to get started on this topic but in my case .
all the cores share the load equal.
I just leave it at that.

Why is nobody playing

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Why is nobody playing?…

Because the bl maps are not great and wvw lacks rewards.

I’m very confused. You are asking why the bl maps are empty… So I’m telling you why those maps are empty. I’m also adding in the fact that wvw itself is not rewarding enough for most players.

I’m not sure how much more clear I could be.

Its not rewarding enough why was it rewarding enough pre hot?
then it was 3 times more players actually queue on 2 or 3 borders instead of just EB
why did anyone play it at all pre ord since its not rewarding? but not now ?

Was EVERY server’s bl and EB filled to the brim with players dying to play wvw before HoT?

I dont know but my was and not anymore.

Why is nobody playing

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Why is nobody playing?…

Because the bl maps are not great and wvw lacks rewards.

I’m very confused. You are asking why the bl maps are empty… So I’m telling you why those maps are empty. I’m also adding in the fact that wvw itself is not rewarding enough for most players.

I’m not sure how much more clear I could be.

Its not rewarding enough why was it rewarding enough pre hot?
then it was 3 times more players actually queue on 2 or 3 borders instead of just EB
why did anyone play it at all pre ord since its not rewarding? but not now ?

Why is nobody playing

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I’m giving you reasons why people are not playing wvw. You asked so I answered

No you didnt the only reason to farm hot is for achievements
the same achievements the hardcore wvw guilds didnt do pre hot
there is no profit in hot can you tell me where this profitable farms are so i can check ?

Why is nobody playing

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Why is nobody playing?…

Because the bl maps are not great and wvw lacks rewards.

What rewards are you talking about wvw has always been less rewarding than pve
hot didnt change that so what rewards in hot is making people quit ?

Why is nobody playing

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I know the rewards didn’t change…

So what rewards do you get in hot?
best way to farm money is chests in sw you dont need hot for that.

:(. Did and does wvw have a great reward system?

Are there any good rewards or reward incentives to playing wvw currently?

There was more playing pre hot despite having same reward system
thats why i made this thread i dont get it.

Why is nobody playing

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I know the rewards didn’t change…

So what rewards do you get in hot?
best way to farm money is chests in sw you dont need hot for that.

Best CPU?

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You don’t need to overclock to get GW2 to run well. If you do, you’ve done something horribly, horribly wrong. Find how much you’re willing to spend here, then look up and down the list for CPUs that match the socket type on your motherboard.
http://www.logicalincrements.com/

Yeah, if you have to OC to play GW2, you have messed up somewhere.

Its only a 20% oc its not even optimised and im not using more than 40% load

Why is nobody playing

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Because the bl maps are not great and wvw lacks rewards.

What rewards you need? the rewards didnt change since expansion as far as i know.

Why is nobody playing

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…Judging by the time you made this post… I’d say it’s probably because it’s only a few hours until reset? Isn’t it mostly empty at that time since usually the victor has already been decided?

Yea i think thats the reason i was playing now and we had a pretty big zerg
atleast 30 players but our enemies was pathethic french… nuf said
even if they had more players drop like upscaled.

Why is nobody playing

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why did they switch? i like this map way better i dont get it .

Best CPU?

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I’m running a rather beefy CPU overclocked to 4.9GHz, and it’s still CPU bound. I’d say don’t spend your money and instead just save up for something else. Unless you somehow can get a 6GHz CPU, I’d say you won’t see much improvement with GW2.

(or somehow you convince ANet to update their engine to something less CPU bound.)

What? my is overclocked to 3.5ghz right now and i have no issues at all.

Why is nobody playing

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So i did go to the dessert map today to the commander tag we were FIVE people !
all the other borders was dead all we did was run back and fourth to do supplyruns.
there was literally NO enemies around we capped one tower then i was bored already.
WHY is nobody playing? I know you cant claim towers for some reason anymore
is that why ? else why not ? the maps are pretty.

Best CPU?

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Nobody knows for sure but when it comes to performance per dollar
I think Skylake wins by a long shot doesn’t matter if you go i5 or i7
Make sure you get ddr4 ram with fast timings.

I’m just going to leave this here.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/16

Please I said THINK i haven’t bothered doing any scientific analysis.
Its still not a bad choice. I’m using lga 1366 and it works flawless for my 60hz monitor.

Point is, since Ivybridge there has been no serious CPU gaming performance increase. And DDR4 makes no different compared to DDR3, because its in dual channel mode.

There is NO POINT in buying Skylake if you are on 3rd gen or newer Intel i5’s or i7’s. Just look at the benchmarks.

All right I’m just going to take you’re word for it.
Also i am aware of that x99 v3 processors are best and they also cost WAY more
While skylake is affordable for average customers.

X99 is not the ‘best’, they are really completely different. They use QPI instead of DMI to talk to the chipset, they offer more PCIE lanes, and exceed the standard 4 core count (current are 6 and 8, Broadwell-e is bringing 10core for the top end CPU).

and dont take my word for it, do your own research. start by looking at the benchmark review i linked. You will see just how much of a ‘difference’ there really is between CPUs for gaming.

I’m just going to take you’re word for it because i don’t want to prove anything.
I have a pc which works that’s all i know. I also care about performance per dollar.

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Nobody knows for sure but when it comes to performance per dollar
I think Skylake wins by a long shot doesn’t matter if you go i5 or i7
Make sure you get ddr4 ram with fast timings.

I’m just going to leave this here.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/16

Please I said THINK i haven’t bothered doing any scientific analysis.
Its still not a bad choice. I’m using lga 1366 and it works flawless for my 60hz monitor.

Point is, since Ivybridge there has been no serious CPU gaming performance increase. And DDR4 makes no different compared to DDR3, because its in dual channel mode.

There is NO POINT in buying Skylake if you are on 3rd gen or newer Intel i5’s or i7’s. Just look at the benchmarks.

All right I’m just going to take you’re word for it.
Also i am aware of that x99 v3 processors are best and they also cost WAY more
While skylake is affordable for average customers.

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Nobody knows for sure but when it comes to performance per dollar
I think Skylake wins by a long shot doesn’t matter if you go i5 or i7
Make sure you get ddr4 ram with fast timings.

I’m just going to leave this here.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/16

Please I said THINK i haven’t bothered doing any scientific analysis.
Its still not a bad choice. I’m using lga 1366 and it works flawless for my 60hz monitor.

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Skylake is Intel’s 6th gen right? DDR4 is new too right?

I’m not sure if both are compatible with the Z97 I have

Yea its not compatible you need socket 1150 I’m not familiar with them.

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Nobody knows for sure but when it comes to performance per dollar
I think Skylake wins by a long shot doesn’t matter if you go i5 or i7
Make sure you get ddr4 ram with fast timings.

How do i fight a thief?

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go in deathshroud hit him 2 times with life blast

Would factions make you quit the game?

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Have to play it to see but if its like eotm its fail.
Everyone knows green win every time there.
Players occasionally go there to stomp uplevels.
there is no motivation for them to actually play eotm.
Im positive about this change but have to play it first.
The community in my server were great.
Until guilds came and think their our boss telling us what we can or cant do.
So in terms of community this alliance thing wont change much for me.

HoT or GTFO?

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did you try dd ele ? i think its still viable