https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/Top-right-GO-away/first#post2096524
Rocking Wizard Wars until this mess of a game is fixed…
If I recall, it is usually around reset or an hour after, not sure though.
EDIT: "State of the Game going live at 1PM Pacific (20:00 GMT) with Jonathan “Chaplan” Sharp and Josh “Grouch” Davis"
What are some tips that an ele should do/try to do in pvp?
Is ele ever going to be buffed again to a usable state or should I just not play sPvP at all?
Play Guild Wars.
Ele` in gw2 has been bent over & not even bought a drink or flowers for the pleasure.
The problem with any fixes to make conjures viable is that we already have 20 weapon skills. Making them function like engi kits would give us access to on-demand 25 weapon skills – engis themselves only have 5 weapon skills.
I do think they should be instant cast and function like a bundle, but:
- We should be locked out of swapping attunements and lose any attunement effects like healing ripple and evasive arcana while holding them,
- Summoning them should not count as a weapon swap, and
- We should be required to hold them for at least certain length of time, and there should be a similar cooldown before they can be summoned again.
I.e., we should have to sacrifice a lot to make use of them.
Or just stop rooting me when casting FGS. I’d be okay with just that.
True engie only has five main weapon spells, but they also have F1-4 spells too.
Stick a kit on & you`ve another five of whatever that kit does.
Most run at least two kits, I do (bomb & tool)
Plus some engie kits can get some amazing bonuses, like Bomb kit 4-shield 4-rocket boots = lot of aoe stealth.
Heal F1-rocket boots – massive aoe heals.
& probably more I`ve not even learnt as of yet.
Whilst using conjures in this way, we`d still be restricted via the cds on sttunement swapping, the conjures themselves don`t give any ways to boosts buffs etc that I recall (not used them much since beta & learning they`re not worth the hassle (wvws))
I don`t agree with having to hold them for a set amount of time, you don`t with kits except for the 0.5sec or wtk it is GCD. We`re already low enough health & locking us out of those would definitely remove the use of the conjures again.
I agree it shouldn`t count as a weapon swap, keep attunements active & let it stick to those.
Also agree that FGS shouldn`t have to be stood still to cast that.
What on Tyria were they thinking when th…..nvm, that`d involve thinking to start with ;p
Warrior most definitely has much better damage, even against a “zerker” ele & combine that with ele low hp/survivability, more so when zerker.
P.S. Warrior GS has more mobility then any ele weapon set & they can swap to rifle/bow at press of a button & swap weapons every four seconds.
Easy fix.
Get rid of the current stupid conjure mechanic.
Make them similar to engie kits.
Press keybind, instantly get weapon in hand, press again, ta-da, back to your basic weapon.
If folk complain we no longer drop a conjured toy for them, tell them they want so much, roll an ele & see what it is like.
anet, pay me for this soooo obvious fix.
Eles might be fine if you restrict the discussion to a specific build (30 air GC) in the least-played & therefore least-significant part of the game (sPVP). In every other way, Ele is pretty kitten underwhelming:
- conjures still a joke
- glyphs still a joke
- signets still considerably weaker than cantrips
- high arcane, high water still required (noone roams/zergs/GVGs as 30 air GC)
- focus still sucks
- D/D has basically disappeared
Please consider the majority when dropping wtf-bombs like “Ele is OK” as this is sure to further the (noticeably already high) level of resentment of players towards yourselves.
Don`t forget the so called “Elites”.
Also a huge joke.
If you really want to play elementalist, forget that there’s any PvP in this game. Play PvE and you’ll be happier for it.
Alas, that isn`t an option for some of us.
I`m a PvPest, I find PvE beyond tedious.
I`ve done a whole three dungeons in this game, Arah, to get rid of that green crap top right (see sig), Arah story again to help someone met in game & CoF to help someone else get their legendary.
Within seconds of being in there, I`m thinking this is too basic, no surprises such as players jumping in to try to kill us etc
Eles were OP bunkers, couldn’t die even with 2 folks hammering on them – BUT we wouldn’t kill anyone that had the slightest clue what they were doing either. Was that fine?
Oddly, yes that was fine.
That is the whole point of being a tank, to survive more then what the average can do to you. Yet idiotnet fail to realise this.
Guardian can still tank extremely well, so can warrior, engie & even ranger.
Even now I`ve had as many as four players chasing me all around the border map (yesterday several times) & they`ve not killed me because of the usual noobish not stun/immobilising me even once or when they do, they`ve already blown cds at completely wrong times, just because they`re off of cd (my favourite is the usual rangers trapping/rooting you & then using their knockback to free you almost instantly just because it is off of cd lol).
What should`ve happened is that the devs should of watched the youtube crap, played their own game &/or watched some stream, then they`d realise they should`ve told the noobs that couldn`t kill Ele “equip stun/immob` uttils/weapons you dumb kitten” & that would more then likely of fixed things, rather then whack-a-mole nerfing one build & therefore nerfing every other build along with it.
Phew, rant against the dumb devs over.
Back to my other games
I just hit 100 gold and thought I was rich =(
Did that a couple of days before this patch, first time ever felt rich.
Nice of them to force us to spend that on mats that WvWs isn`t dropping :$
True, see far more guardians in WvWs then Ele.
Other week, went into EB just to see someones new leg end hammer I`d helped them mats wise to make, then we ran amock.
Wasn`t overly shocking when they asked (as they`re commander) for an ele to use static field for aoe blast speed.
Even in /t, there wasn`t one ele in the game /failol
I was on my engie at the time, but even if on my ele, I still refuse to use staff.
Ah well, the devs obviously think QOL/UI or wtk they`re doing is more important then any semblance of balance…
I think we all know we`re just slaves for the PvErs.
We fight hours over one spot, more then likely dying loads, spending a fortune on repair bills, having to pay to even install waypoints, merchants & npcs that can be killed all too easily & for what?
To give the server a smidgen more hp/etc to help those PvErs dragon slay (cough spam one cough)
The scarlet zergs (which for some reason is now flashing up in WvWs, you could run & fill over 100 bag slots with loot & gain plenty of silver/gold over a short time.
Having to vendor/salvage whilst fighting mobs & fighting for bag space ;p
To get that in WvWs would take weeks or months.
Worse, I suffered that to get the watch-tonic, something to play with in WvWs.
But oooooooh no, we`re not allowed to use those in there.
Don`t even get me started on the fact we need years to get the WvWs achievements, whereas PvErs get new ones every two weeks :$
/sigh
Could be worse though, at least we get hundreds of grey spikes, all those in bgs get are crappy click to salvage every time items & once in a blue moon a dye.
Expected to wait ages for anything to get done, but seems nobody is getting any fixes any time soon…..
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The only good thing about WvWs ranks, is the higher title you see on the enemy, the more likely they only know how to press 1 several times & where their zerg is ;p
If ppl ever read the patch notes.
They stated their crafting was reset to zero, not that some level 400 recipes were missing.
Patch notes have nothing to do with bugs.
Still happening, piccie included.
Don`t expect anything of use for staff.
A dev on the “learn how to use ele” live stream a few weeks ago, whilst telling everyone what the spells do (well durr….) also said that staff is great for kiting & that you could kite 15 with ease.
We all know there`s no way in hell you could kite fifteen of anything, but they remain clueless.
I don`t know how long since you`ve played an d/d ele, but they don`t have great mobility, not even close.
I`ve a necro that can out run ele & not have to lose damage to do so, ranger the same, thief & warrior are the best mobility in the game by miles, literally
Still yet to see a good reason why all of those that can weapon swap melee/range are allowed better mobility then a d/d which is purely melee range with no options.
As for our heals, yes they can be good, but everyone of them is a HoT or small heals combined.
Warriors built right can heal just as well, if not better, yet still are much higher damage then d/d ele are.
Same goes for Guardian & their heals can go from almost dead to full instantly.
This would just seriously kitten off the forum mods and make them hate these subforums more than they already do.
Not sure the mods could get any more zealous, they even deleted a post in spvp section that had replies from a dev the other day lol
Damage builds = die easily. Survivability builds = die easily.
i commend you for your skill in computation, as i’ve double checked your equations and have come to the conclusion that they are absolutely correct
Corrected that image for you
not seen anyone else use it & probably not good, but I use Mad Kings rune.
confuses the hell out of enemy when pop your elite.
I like open world pvp, I`ve done shed loads on other games, but in this?
Not a bloody chance, balance is a joke as it is already.
Ah that is okay then, we don`t need range to hit things on walls or daggers to defend against thieves.
Vive le arsended! ;p
Seeing as patch notes failed to mention this, enjoy.
You can now solo & place target markers.
Just had Scarlet attacking flash on the screen & chat whilst in WvWs.
Totally not required.
See the bright side.
Now we lost the only excuse that could prevent devs to fix this profession in PvE.
Since conjured was really far from what a player would look at for gameplay in an elementalist.Sorry for people who liked them IF someone ever did.
At least read the patch notes.
Because the patch notes are always complete & not full of crap or stuff missing?
btw, enter any place solo, target a mob, call target.
Ta-da! That was never mentioned in the notes.
Whilst he maybe isn`t a fan of Ele, at least he plays the game, not sure the devs ever do at times, so stand more of a chance of proper things being fixed.
Look at it now, does anybody, anywhere, think the current devs have a clue re:balancing?
Just saw that.
I`m guessing hoping they buff stats to match arsended shizz once those are out, but doubt they`d think of that..
Being an ele, less likely to use macros I`d of thought.
But lots of folk can spam several keys within a second with ease, I know I can.
Lightning Flash.
Having to use a util just on the off chance that you can make CE hit, is terribad & doesn`t guarantee it does.
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Still amazes me that a warriro, that can range/melee swap every four seconds, also has highest mobility, possibly even better then thief except for stealth crap.
Did daily crap on lowbie warrior today & realised, even their stun removal is only a 20 second cd.
tbh I dobut any of this`ll ever get sorted to anything near balanced, but I`m not fussed any more.
Survarium is entering alpha, ARMA3 almost release state, Wild Star on the horizon along with EQ, which I`d never of thought of until I saw some of the things they have planned. Wizard Wars looks amazing, Magicka variant
Hell, even contemplating SWeaToR & I have star wars, but few have said it is good pvp.
Time`ll tell…
Oh & P.S. Even Terraria has bettter pvp then gw2 lol
may be it is GW2 PvP +WvW.
It has to be.Extra fun fact: the population of WvW who plays any given week regularly is larger than the entire population of all of Gw1 the game any given week for a large chunk of the games lifespan. Just want to put things in perspective, Gw1 was amazing, but there is a reason we made Gw2.
Additional fun fact.
More folk now play BF3 hard mode online then folk played Quake online back when it is released.
Numbers in your context mean sod all lol
It has nothing to do with the games, but fact is that more folk have internot these days & hardware allows easier online playing.
Oddly, one of the devs has played an Ele, he stated on a stream that he died lots & usually just rolled his warrior/guaradian to faceroll the fights.
If that didn`t show how bad things are, nothing does.
Now that Grouch is employed by anet, although I don`t know in what role, hopefully they`ll listen to him as he clearly knows more about the game then the devs lol
Mreowl?
If you watch the stream, you can see they put next to zero thought into it.
Even when asked outright if RTL cd would be affected by Aegis, Blocks etc, both devs looked at each other & said blankly Yes, that should still work.
Flat out lies & clueslessness incarnate.
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I think Mes and Ele are probably ok for the most part, as long as we tone down the conditions output from some classes, and bring the S/D Thief in line.
Wow, just wow….
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Don`t pewpew whilst confused.
Cleanse them, job`s a good `un.
Amazing, despite the almost complete lack of any Ele` in the battlegrounds, the devs laughingly still think that “Ele are probably ok for the most part”
The clueless is strong with this one, looks like we won`t be getting any much required fixes…
The mesmer and ele dps is way too high.
Necro didnt need buffing ever. It was fun and balanced. Other stuff needed its condi removal being worse. Please dont repeat the same mistakes again.
Mesmer possibly /shrug
Erm, you may want to add weapons, because there is no way in hell the ele d/d or staff is way too high, or even passable lately.
Yes sceptre can do some good damage, but definitely not way too high, but once their bursts is through they`re sitting ducks unless built tanky, in which case again, the damage is a joke.
I agree about necro, it was fine before, ran into plenty of really good necro players in the bgs that wiped the floor long before the stupid buffs were added.
Oddly, been tempted a fair few times over last few fail “balolance” patches to give SWeaToR a shot.
Is it any good? The pvp?
I don`t care if it is esports banana worthy, I just want a good pvp experience & gw2 has constantly failed on every way possible.
Side note, I actually hate star wars & all things star warsish, but if pvp is good….
No(t even close)
Don`t know about Mesmer, rarely use mine.
RTL needs reverting.
Ele D/D is a melee/short range class only. Expecting the lowest hp/armour class to not be able to get to the enemy before half/most of their hp is gone is kittened.
Especially as Sharp et al lied about the RTL counting against Aegis/blocks etc.
I`ve yet to hear one good reason why Ele isn`t allowed to mist/heal.
Same goes for engie.
thief stealth/heals.
So can Mesmer.
lol even Ranger can stealth/heal & signet/pet heals.
Regen Warrior is just insane & has invulnerablity.
Guardian can bubble/heal & some of their heals can almost dead to full instantly, not some kittened 8-10 seconds like Ele.
Considering most if not all Ele goes tank just to survive a light breeze their damage is also a joke.
Traits, Earth & fire line are a complete waste of pixels.
You`ll be waiting a loooong time.
A dev stated that while there will be a patch after PAX, it won`t be the “balance” patch, that`ll come some time later.
Guildie is colour blind, but red/green. He said this didn`t help & makes it worse.
If a game adds colour blind, it should be an option, not enforced for everyone!
Hackers/glitchers, you forgot to add in those, they always appear in match threads ;p
I’ll accuse you of both of those later, maybe mid week
Why thanks ye kind sir, one shall look forward to that ;p
As for UW just sitting in towers/siege et al.
Erm, I`ve been making a nuisance of myself in both enemy borders & seen plenty of other UWers.
[hands over glasses]
An arrow would be handy for those that want it on the screen, assuming it would remember the state you wanted it in.
As for me, I want rid of that crap permanently.
I know they want to make/keep this game idiot proof, but doing this just because a few folk may forget how to click options & search for the setting or from asking guildies, in /t or /m or /s or someone on friends list, is just bloody awful.
As it is now, I`m stuck with a months worth of chores to grind just to get screen space back.
It`s not like the monthly/daily rewards are even worth the time you need to do these either.
Chances are we’ll get a major balance patch next Tuesday or in two weeks. It will be interesting to see if it can stop the bleeding.
Would you like the bad news or the predictably bad news?
A dev stated there is a patch post PAX, but that one won`t be the balance patch, it`ll be minor things.
Expect several weeks more of this crap.
As for the views, they had hyped up there being some big news for WvWs, only reason I watched it.
Turned out to be just another fluff/joke.
Perhaps folk were also watching to hear even a snippet of anything about the state of the games balance, but unsurprisingly, nothing got mentioned, except for the jokes of petting zoo.
It is temporary, when you don`t get to keep it.
In warcraft (& I`m sure other games) arena/rbgs awards differed for each season.
Something a player/team won they got to keep, the next season the awards would differ somewhat.
The only thing they kept that was the same were titles.
As for wanting to keep & get out there & win it.
We all know how terribad the matchups have always been, doubt that`ll ever change.
More temp` content.
Who is surprised?
You do get the rewards from the server you are on when the league starts.
Still seems dumb, move to a top tier server day before, week later move back to your normal ones, still get full rewards.
Hackers/glitchers, you forgot to add in those, they always appear in match threads ;p
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