If you don’t want a pet-class, you don’t want Ranger. It’s as simple as that.
No, it’s not as simple as that.
When people rolled a Ranger they realized it came with a pet. It wasn’t a surprise. What they discovered was pets don’t work correctly…and Anet has said they are not sure if they can fix it.
If the pets worked as intended, you would get very few, if any, complaints about them.
I want to play an archer like I do in every game. There is no other class that can wield both bows. The pet is just a horrible nuisance I have had to deal with. How pets got tied to “rangers” I have no idea -must be one of those copying WoW things.
Drizzt Do’urden from The dark elf trilogy is a Ranger that has a pet Jaguar as a companion. The are many iconic Rangers who develop relationships with animals.
Even the Ranger in after earth develop a brief but close boon with a gian bird of prey. So close that the animal gave its life to save the ranger.
Rangers and pet have a long history some closer than other but there has always been a connetion.
Counter example~
Everyone’s favourite ranger (especially among anti-archers) Aragorn certainly did not have a pet in tow…unless of course you count Gimli.
Nice that you mentioned that example, as he wasn’t the Ranger “Archer kit” that people love. Not all Rangers are Archers.
He also was a ranger as “race”, as in “descendant of Numenor” and they were known as “Rangers” to the people who knew about them but not their lineage.
As far as class goes, Aragorn was undoubtedly a paladin.
He started out as a ranger, he turned in to a paladin. Trahearn had a similar journey and there are a lot of others from other genres. Every leader turns in to a guardian..
- You’ve never thrown yourself off a cliff with one of those skills that make you jump backward (S2, SB3, LR) (promised: I learned my lesson, and don’t fire them blindly no more :P)
I’ve killed myself both ways with sword (jumping forward and jumping backward).
You’re not a ranger if you haven’t:
gotten low on hp and started to run away, swapped to GS to escape, hit Swoop, only to realize you forgot to clear the target you were trying to Swoop away from.
wondered why you’re doing so little damage against a target at melee range, then notice you have longbow equipped instead of sword.
hit Lighting Reflexes and gotten confused when nothing happens, then you realize you’re immobilized.
hit Hunter’s Call only to see others kill the mob before it finishes activating.
been the only survivor of a would-be party wipe because your pet managed to revive you.
(for those who played before the pet non-aggro patch) wondered “where the h#@$ did my pet go?”, hit F3, and saw your pet returning with a dozen mobs in tow.
turned off autotarget because you got sick of your pet attacking the nearest mob every time you hit horn 5 for swiftness.
cursed because you had to move (red circle, mob preparing big attack, etc) a second after you hit Barrage.
double checked to make sure you created a new ranger when you’re given an axe.
ended up fighting a half dozen neutral mobs because that axe bounce has a bigger range than you thought.
done an epic facepalm when you learned that Sic Em is bugged, and the way you’ve been using it for the last 8 months – hit Sic Em, then F1 to order your pet to attack – causes the Sic Em buff to disappear.
He’s asking for the class people most underestimate roaming. Anyone who plays WvW regularly is going to know a roaming ranger is out to kill you and built specifically for that. “Roaming” warriors and guardians are likely lost zerglings and can likely be slaughtered like a newborn lamb.
Warriors can be capable roamers, so the correct answer is guardian. No one has ever run from a guardian. Ever.
I was in several team arenas today with people in the single digit to teens rank. Like quite a few. It seems really weird these people are getting thrown in with people in the 30s, 40s.
Are you talking competitive or for dungeons? WvW/PvP, axes and SBs see a ton of use as condi or spirit bunkers.
For PvE, main hand axes and SBs are the two weakest weapons rangers have, so I’d highly suggest something else. They’re really just niche weapons like axes for clearly blooms in TA. Against the actual bosses, they’re complete garbage.
You can force entangle to work. I rarely use entangle, but in WvW I like to because I take a several skills to set it up. If you use a dog snare, dog knock down, muddy terrain, LB4, wolf howl, wolf knockdown, and entangle, sooner or later people are going to run out of escape plans. All you need is about two of those to “work” and you will win.
And to be fair, a lot of the people he skilled had respectable WvW ranks. Judging from how bad the warriors and guardians were, I think they got their ranks from zerging though. He decimated that silver veteran or whatever it was.
He has is trigger several times in the video when he’s stomping, so he’s both not attacking and dazed anyway.
A lot of people like to turn autoattack off so you have more control of your char, especially for things like confusion. I’m so used to doing that with a sword I find it pretty natural to do for other weapons. I almost never use a shortbow though, and with the fast fire it might be annoying.
Caudecus is a very cautious kitten – as far as I know, Logan and Anise had zero evidence on him, let alone three. And even if they did have three, his influence would likely bring the trial in his favor, thus the evidence would get tossed out should he be proven not guilty.
Do we need any evidence at all? Trial by Combat.
Or does only the accused have the right to suggest that? Caudy probably wouldn’t be stupid enough to suggest challenging the PC now that we have a reputation for killing anything and everything, and a few other things just because we felt like it.
Nobody.
If you see somebody described as evil, he’s evil.
If someone is good, he’s good.
This game lacks any grey side when original lore is full of it. Shame, real shame for writers.
Canach.
Also Scarlet to a small degree. She wasn’t necessarily evil, but rather possessed.
And we still don’t know what Caithe did, but she’s an interesting character anyway. Like the scene in the personal story where you decide to save the nightmare courtier and she slits his throat in front of you.
Ironically these are all slyvari. They need to find some morals!
Edit: The Inquest are sort of morally ambiguous as well. It reminds me of the debate about whether using kitten German WWII medical research is acceptable. (It’s not, because they didn’t follow the scientific method.)
Little QoL tip every ranger should know: position yourself behind your pet when stomping warriors. It blocks the hammer and you get them on the first try without stealth or quickness.
You would lose out on the dodge if it were reversed. Unless the first skill remained relatively permanent. I.e., you leap in, then you have 30 seconds to leap out.
Some rangers don’t like Empathic Bond because they think it kills your pet. I haven’t found that to be the case at all. Typically I use a shout regen build when using the trait, so between the pet being invisible, having permanent regen on it, sitting in a Healing Spring/having Troll Unguent on it, and the fact that swapping pets clears all condis from the pet, it never dies.
For what it’s worth, EB is in the current PvP meta build.
Maybe ease up on the sarcasm and reading in to what I asked. All I want to know is what people want and expect from a new map. Do you personally, Randall, expect to return to a new map? And for comparison do you regularly return to the Harathi Hinterlands?
Yes. How would it differ from any other zone? People go back because they like certain events, there are dungeons, there are world bosses, they do gathering runs.
If it was some sort of magical map that was a million times better than all the others and everyone loved it, then every other map in the game would be empty.
People don’t go to any map. That’s the point.
They add this new amazing map and people leave it after half an hour. Neat.
Is there somewhere I can get a better understanding of RPers? Like a forum? I DO NOT GET IT. I don’t want to make fun of anyone, I’d just love to see it in action for GW2.
However as a ranger you will be hated by most pug groups. So make a warrior, guardian or ele alt for dungeons and fractals.
Levelling a ranger is a faceroll, but once you are on level 80 your life ends.
I feel like I debunk this myth every single day on the ranger forum. Rangers are wanted by even top speed clear guilds, assuming you know what you’re doing and are running the meta.
I have never been kicked from any dungeon or fractal run because I was a ranger. And I play my ranger almost exclusively.
The factions they came from weren’t on our good list to begin with, except the dredge. It doesn’t matter if they’re not following Scarlet anymore; we kill all Flame Legion, Krait, Nightmare Court, and bandits on sight. We’ll continue to do so, whatever they’re calling themselves.
The dredge that joined the MA probably aren’t the peace loving sort, so we’ll wind up killing them when they attack a random priory researcher or whatever trouble they decide to cause.
The sword attacks are fast enough that as long as you aren’t button mashing you can attack as fast as possible and still be able to dodge. You just have to know the rhythm.
Then there is the fact that most dungeon bosses won’t one shot you. I often get drunk, button mash and just eat the hits because there really isn’t much danger (like CoF1, the slaver and effigy can’t kill you even as a full zerker.)
We can probably hand them in for something like Alliance Bags. I doubt we’ll actually get anything meaningful to spend them on.
Especially considering so many of us have deleted thousands or even tens of thousands of them. If they started allowing us to cash them in for T6 mats, people would be… upset.
A good tip, is to use sword against NPC’s with oneshot/heavy burst abilities. Because these abilities are generally super telegraphed, and as such, you get more time to learn the timing of when you can and when you cannot dodge.
There is some other NPC’s you can train yourself on. Like giant wurms (especially the one in WvW Borderlands) as the stone it throws is very well telegraphed, and easy to dodge. Yet you will not get one-shot by it.
I’ll toss out ettins as the perfect enemy to learn the sword with. They have several really big, telegraphed attacks. Especially the AoE knockdown one they do is perfect for floating like a butterfly, stinging like a hornet. It’s not at all dissimilar to dodging a warrior with a hammer or an ele with churning earth.
I’ve been wondering for quite a while now, is there ever a point where GS can out damage sword in PvE dungeon running? Any hypothetical scenario or part comp?
The question stems from that screenshot someone posted of mauling a thief for like 50k.
The autoattacks are not evenly spaced, so don’t press it evenly. Learn the pattern and press it when you need to press it. It helps if you have a musical background, as it’s just a simple quick-fast-long, quick-fast-long pattern.
This will also prevent you from flying off cliffs in PvE.
The way I learned the sword was to get 100% map completion while using it (obviously overkill, but I like the weapon.) After that much use, you can use it where it counts with no problems, and you see it’s so much better than every other weapon in the game.
I think what it requires is someone to have a thorough knowledge of the lore and make the thread. After that, a dev simple stickies it.
I don’t want to call out Konig, but he was in charge of the sticky on GWInc. Perhaps someone who knows this stuff far better than I would be willing to get it started?
