Guild Wars 2

Dude Grand Moot and Charr Meatoberfest (sp?) sound awesome.

Honestly, after the stunt they pulled with the invisible shoes I wouldn’t put anything past them.

I got a duplicate item as a gift of something I had already bought and i filed a support ticket and they told me too kitteng bad. I was like wooooow great customer service there. So I don’t buy outfits for anyone ever or minis or anything unlockable unless the giver specifically requests it now because of that. Just lost revenue for them. I still have that outfit sitting in my bank to remind me too. Along with the duplicate bubble glider that I got that I didn’t bother to file a ticket for because of the previous bad customer support.

Rauderi.8706:

…what Anet intended it to be.

We don’t get much about the “intent” beyond:

“challenging”
It’s not challenging, it’s just punishing. It’s zerg content. Solo = suicide, Zerg = 1.1111*10^4.

“farm”
Usually, the point of farming something is the targeted acquisition of a material, with an expectation of gains above other methods. So far as I understand it, people are reporting better gains by not doing this “farm” than by waiting for a group to show up and flailing away at it for a few minutes before boredom or diminishing returns kick in. Also, the rewards are still far too RNG-driven to even be considered a “farm”. I’d have better luck doing events for karma and buying some Crab Grabbin’ Gloves, because the RNG is focused on bloating T5 drops over everything else.

So, by looking at the only two stated “intents,” we can only conclude that it missed the mark on both criteria. 0 / 2 usually means something failed.

Now, jury’s still out on whether this will, in the end, benefit the players beyond those who perceive Fallen Watchtower to not be a waste of time, and I’m still waiting for evidence of that.

i lol’d at crab grabbing gloves coz i know exactly what you mean and i feel you.

I’m pretty sure almost everyone blends coz it doesn’t make sense if you need one mat to just farm it all the time if you’re a farmer and no one can afford to just buy everything all the time unless they’re a flipper or a goldbuyer.

Re ashen’s question about prices: there was a panic sale when the farm was announced that drove the prices down to 19s 99c now the prices have gone back up to ~25s so no it hasn’t really brought the prices down.

Yes but if you sold the mats that you’d use to turn it into t6 and bought t6 you’d save money so it’s pointless.

But the farm doesnt give t6 leather… so

Idk about you but putting those two together in that sentence makes it seem as if the leather farm is for the hardened leather.

We’re trying to be as hands-off as possible with item prices, recognizing that players ultimately drive item prices by hoarding things they perceive as cheap and by unloading or farming things they perceive as expensive. On the other hand, it’s kind of unfair for us to say that about hardened leather, because there’s not a good way to farm hardened leather. So we also want to give this early warning that we’ll introduce a way to farm leather in a future release.

Notes from a reddit ama Idk maybe i was mistaken about it being John Smith I couldn’t find the ama I was google searching coz it’s impossible to search on reddit
http://dulfy.net/2016/11/21/gw2-a-crack-in-the-ice-developers-reddit-ama/

And I will find the quote when I have a spare moment coz I, you know, actually play the game.

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Basically there was a thread where John Smith said he was concered about t6 leather and it was discussed about how they were going to lower the price but they didn’t want to mess with recipes again.

I never said they specifically said that this was the intended purpose I said they said they said they wanted to lower the price of t6. And I added that the intended purposed of this was to lower the price of t6 because they said that. Don’t put words into my mouth.

Yeah on reddit.

No. They said they wanted to lower the price of t6. That’s what they said. That was the intended purpose of the leather farm. The price hasn’t been lowered. It’s increased. Don’t challenge me to find quotes, coz I will.

LOL I think its hilarious what I said gets called QQing “unreasonably” when I’ve been saying pretty much what a lot of other people have been saying in this thread 10/10. Sorry I asked anet to do what they said they’d do. My bad.

ich.7086:

No. ABML was an exploit unintended by the devs. Leather farm is something the devs created to increase the supply of leather. It’s totally different and leather farm was never design to achieve the same purpose as AM meta (ML or not) reward. QQing about a new farm that doesn’t achieve the ABML level of reward is just stupidity at its finest.

The problem about updating salvage result or crafting receipt is that the pop is so high that the resulting influx is going to crash the market.

Atm, t5 -> t6 (raw) is profit :
sell price of the receip : 250 * 83c + 20s14c + 5*20s16c = 3g32s29c
buy price of the receip (aka opportiny cost) : 250 * 1s + 23s30 + 5*21s33c = 3g79s95c

The receipt output according to wiki en average 18.92 t6 so about 3g81s23c (buy price) or 4g40s07c (sell price, i let you make compute the tp tax). Here is a link to gw2profit, which assummes a average output of 17, which shows that if you want leather, the receipt is still a profit but isn’t if you want to sell because tp tax which is prefectly fine. If you intend to sell leather, you misunderstood the purpose of this farm.

tbh i’m pretty impressed by the way Anet implemented this because :

• promotion increases value of spirit shard and t6 dust (thus ecto)
• doesn’t flood the market with t6 mat because it’s a promotion and not a plain drop
• it’s a “slow” farm so its effects aren’t huge and aren’t likely to crush the market
• lazy people that don’t promote are punished

The only thing that bothers me is the HoT exclusivity but cleric farm or ABML were already HoT only.

T5 and T6 are linked (not anchored because that implies one doesn’t move), a huge influx of T5 will make the promotion even better so T6 should get lower as T5 does. T5 is still faaar away from vendor trash and the demand is lower than i expected since the promotion is worth it.

People that are just farming gold to buy leather are basicly saying “I find that leather too cheap”. There is a lot of way to acquire a lot of leather in this game (wvw is a giant leather farm) if you go out of ABML and SW.

As a final note, i’m pretty amazed by everyone who just discovered that unstable hide is a good farm, we know it since bloodstone fen. Did you even cleric farm ? I think people whinning about low tiers never did because i’m drowing into low tier leather.

TL;DR : people should farm more leather and promote more instead of complaining.

According to the wiki promotion only outputs 10. So it’s a loss.

Gaile Gray.6029:

I think I’ll be ok. After all, I control the Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers supply, as kitty has not figured out how to open the pantry door or pop a can lid.

My cat is halfway there…she’s figured out how to open the cabinet……just now needs to figure out how to pop the lid.

Obtena.7952:

JTGuevara.9018:

Obtena.7952:

Of course it’s the hardest to get … you thought it was going to rain down on you like a hailstorm?

Why shouldn’t it rain? The others certainly are!

Obtena.7952:

Anet was pretty clear that this was a leather farming area … did you somehow infer this would mean T6 would be the primary drop there? Do you think that’s a realistic expectation? I don’t.

Oh no! I believe them! When ANet said leather farm, by gods, they meant leather farm! The thing is, we never really needed it. T1-5 leather is already plentiful as it is. It’s T6 that we all need. NO I didn’t infer that T6 was the primary drop, you know that doesn’t exist!

Obtena.7952:

Seems to me you need to get your expectations properly aligned … and learn what you can do with those other leather tiers to get what you want.

Or how about just increasing drops so the ridiculously absurd price of hard leather falls? In relation to other T6 mats, hard leather is way too high.

You’re obviously not thinking of it from there end, which is what is relevant here. They don’t care what the price is and they never did. Their perspective is to keep leather a commodity worth trading, not to simply flood people with it so they can craft whatever they want whenever they want. It’s amusing that you compare T6 to other tiers and say the price is too high … obviously you aren’t aware that the price of T6 leather is anchored by the prices of the other leathers.

Astralporing.1957:

Obtena.7952:

let me ask you a question … how much T5 leather did you get? what did you do with that?

Last time i checked, upgrading t5 to t6 was a loss compared to just selling it and buying t6 directly.

You can get the T6 your after; you can either upgrade T5 or sell your T5 if that loss bothers you can by T6 with it. Hint … the price of T6 leather is anchored by the T5 upgrading process so either way statistically will be roughly equivalent. Point is this; there are options and Anet knows that and most likely considered it when planning this farming area.

It’s not anchored by it, it’s a larger loss. Even if a stack of 250 thick leather was half the cost it is now it’d still be a loss.

Tbh i thought the divine envelopes in the boxes were nice, they could be tp’d for over a gold.

I like the greatsword but I don’t really have a lot of use for greatswords (crazy I know!! seeing how it’s so commonly used) but the bow is nice too. My friend likes the rifle and is thinking about getting the greatsword.

Justine.6351:

forget the trading post price, is it possible to forge the leather you want with the leather you get? people get so hung up on the trading post…it is possible to grind mats if you really want them.

This is literally besides the point. Anet said they wanted to lower the price of t6 the farm doesnt achieve that goal. Forging the t6 doesn’t achieve that goal. Especially not when purchasing the overpriced t6 off the trading post is cheaper than forging them. Quit distracting from the point.

I didn’t say salvage ectos. I said salvage more. A lot of people sell their greens and blues to npcs or on the tp instead of salvaging them because they give junk mats, I used to do that in fact and I’ve met a lot of other people who do that. Salvage more. And I get a lot more rares on my 239% account than I do on my alt account that has 43% luck so I definitely disagree. As for how to get more rares: save your labby keys in sw and go use them all in one go you’ll find you get so many rares you don’t know what to do with them.

It wouldn’t be cost effective even if thick leather were half the price it was right now and people aren’t going there for the thick leather they want t6

Justine.6351:

Did they remove the ability to mystic forge t5 for t6?

It costs a stack of thick leather 5 crystalline dusts and 1 hardened leather (which has actually gone up not down since the patch. To upgrade in the forge for 10 hardened leather which (surprise) costs more to make than 10 leather is worth.

Salvage more for more luck, the higher your magic find the more rares you’ll get.

You can’t equip anything when you’re in combat

Really the fact that the bloodstone hides salvage mostly into thick leather is a spit in the face to their promise to lower t6 prices and a kick in the balls to the players.

In b4 thick is at npc price again.

You don’t even get a bunch of t6 from it its mostly other leathers which explains the new low for t5 leather and why t6 leather hasnt budged. I did the farm a few times today and one time when i salvaged 40 patches i got 32 thick leathers and 3 hardened and some other leathers. This is our new hardened leather farm? Seems more like a thick leather farm to me which we didn’t need. Overall throughout the night for every hardened piece i got, i got a ton more thick.

It already is locked by ls access. A guildmate of mine logged in for the ember bay patch but not the bloodstone fen one and could not access bloodstone fen, he tagged along with someone in the bloodstone fen story of someone else and immediately was kicked the second they hit bloodstone fen so yeah.

It’s 1 am where anet is so you’re not getting a response anytime soon.

Dude, when you bought the Deluxe version of HoT you recieved $50 in gems and the upgrade version of HoT for $49.99 so don’t even act like a martyr here I bought 3 copies of that version for that exact reason. LOL at all these people asking for gems its hilarious. God.

yeah but lol @ all the ppl asking for gems. There’s my vent. LOL.

Thanks for trying until the very end to get it to us today and thank you for your hard work through the night. It’s not unappreciated. And although I planned to do the update with someone later tonight (even before the snafu) I can just as easily do it tomorrow night.

The OP says he needs trans charges but that they’re easy to get. So go get them and quit complaining. Obviously anet makes money on the people who complain about how ‘easy’ they are to get and how outdated the system is but need them instead of going and getting them themselves. As for me I’ve completed map completion 5 1/2 times and I wvw regularly so i’m sitting on over 170 of them. Hell, if you’re patient anet even gives you three a month.

Me and my friend are in gw2efficiency’s 1% and we don’t flip, huh, i didn’t know you needed to flip to be ‘rich’.

added decided to give you a link instead https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Map_bonus_reward/profit

March second is when the next frostgorge round comes up and yeah definite start saving your pact supplies up for it wiki map rewards if you wanna see the weeks and what they’re worth definitely worth investing your time and gold into.

Someone told me i look like a white walker when i wore it so its not completely true and is just a glitch.

But if you have somehow gotten to the hall of monuments and gotten a tapestry message me ingame i have some extra minis i can give you.

Actually none of this is true for the first 3 points, you just need to link your account and then visit the hall of monuments in gw2. You must visit log out of both accounts for like an hour. Because you get the points for simply linking the accounts.

oh wow ok ty for the quotes

Its just sad the released certain backpacks with dyeable gliders such as shining blade and moth wings but you cant dye the backpacks to match its crap

What about a central tyria mastery to dye our backpacks that way anet would feel they werent just giving it away and we would get what we kitten want.

I just glided to the bottom (water) and it took me 4 mins using full speed boost every time.

I think one of the highest places you can go is the top of the lost precipice gh we built a ramp to the highest mountain in lost precipice and its really high (without void jumping)

Its not true that no one looks at your feet! I killed someone in wvw and as i stood over him he whispered to me something that began to the effect of hey ranger with no shoes…. (rest of whisper)

You guys are right coz taking a tower should always be met with small groups facing the enemy zerg. In fact lets abolish ppt altogether and just make wvw 3 maps of ppl mashing each others faces that would be sooooooo much more fuuun.

the day after xmas? well?

But i think the person talking about the mats being worthless was talking about the removal of the timegate on other mats as the op posted the picture of the cooldown on a regular timegate