Guild Wars 2

Halo.8976:

Furiousbeard.7602
I think you may lack of leading charisma (no offense).

Trust me, no amount of charisma was going to make things better last night. It could have been Martin Luther King or Dwayne Johnson (“The Rock”) leading that pack, and things still would have fallen apart.

Besides Shadowmoon being lead by Jamaz, how many guilds on Ehmry bay regularly field 15-30 WvW players at one time?

I’m betting less than 5. It’s probably less than 3.

<— Ehmry Bay player

I think this thread reinforces the fact that 1 week matches are too long. Look at all the resentment that is starting in this thread.

This week is won by GOM and at this point there is nothing to bicker about. It’s true that Ehmry Bay has had a couple loses lately and its also true that we have had hacks and exploits used against us during those loses, BUT that did not ultimately lead to our defeat. It was a contributing factor, but NOT what is keeping us from a win.

Right now I see barely any organization between guilds on our server and it’s like herding cats when you don’t have a commander button over your head. You think that people would be reading the /team chat and helping a guy who’s dropping rams at front gates, but instead, you’ve got people running all over the map doing absolutely nothing or sitting at the rez pad. Others come to a gate attack with no supply but expect things to magically appear in front of them. In the two hours i played last night i dropped 8 rams and helped grab every spot on the Ehmry Bay Borderlands except for the orb keep because people would not take direction. You say attack side wall, and they go to the reinforced front gate. You tell people to pick off enemy attackers from the rear, but they mindlessly look at a gate and hit it for 200 damage a minute. Or when you start to push a door down on an orb keep, people are scattering because they got hit by a single arrow cart. There was also the situation where we finally pushed inside the first gate of East Keep (orb keep) and nobody watches behind to make sure they don’t repair their outer gate. What happens after is everybody is trapped inside with no reinforcements and the entire push is wasted. I logged out in frustration because what had started as a 25 man push through the entire map, turned in to 10-15 people holding on to their belts desperately trying to not get their butt kittened by a force that only developed because we couldn’t get organized.

When GOM and SF are forming 5 man groups to pick off reinforcements; instead of Ehmry forming in 5 man+ groups to meet with our larger force, people trickle in one at a time to be slaughtered, or folks are running for the hills because it’s a 5 v 4 or 5 v 3.

At this point server transfers are starting to look pretty enticing since it seems that we have a good number of babies representing Ehmry Bay (not all of course, but there is WAAAAAY too much QQ).

It’s time to wake up Ehmry Bay, we’re gonna be riding the bottom of the server pile pretty quick if some major changes don’t occur. Folks can blame hacks and exploits all they want, but if they are simply going to WvW to pick herbs, then we have a serious problem.

well at least you are making xp in the process AND you threw dirt at him

I wanted to add a little more to this thread since it has been relatively civil up to this point.

I appreciate the opposing servers Guild leaders coming forward to state their intentions to report and ban people using exploits. This is much appreciated and I hope you can forgive the few people on here that paint all GOM players with the same brush.

I can almost guarantee that Ehmry Bay will not be spared the same accusations in the future, and I hope that we can all work together to track down and ban these players from our game.

Since not everybody is using the public forums and may not know about the seriousness of the issue, I’d ask that people chat with their guilds and friends about it. I really want to start a movement by our community to eliminate this element whenever it rears its ugly head.

I think it’s fair to say that the majority of players in GW2 want a good fight, free of hacks. We cannot let a few stupid individuals ruin a great game.

I have to say that GOM has had Stonemist on lockdown pretty much since we started this round. That right there is a LOT of points going to them and I would say that has probably had the largest impact on this round.

I have not personally witnessed any hacking this round, and if there is exploiting, its probably far less than last round. That being said, I don’t spend 24 hours of my day online so my perspective is limited on that topic. If you see it, report it. Pretty simple.

My philosophy on this is, if you see a server member exploiting anything that is unintended within the game, it should be reported immediately. As a population, there are going to be FAR more good players than exploiters, and we as a community have a responsibility to enforce our rule set. If the community of our game is extremely active in policing these players, we will see the positive benefits in short time.

I see a lot of people harping on Arena Net to “fix the exploits” and “get the flyhackers” and “punish all the bad people” but ANet can only do so much. Their company is a lot smaller in size than their player base, and therefore will need our reporting to help them catch these people and ban them.

It is also extremely unfair to a server to say “GOM is all hackers” because this is most likely completely false. The other part of this problem is that exploiters can transfer servers, so they may make GOM look bad one week, then move to another server to do it there. No single server will be able to keep a squeaky clean image with regards to this problem, so EVERYBODY needs to help deter this behavior.

I can not stress that point enough. Everybody needs to help enforce it. If you are in the middle of defending a keep, and you see someone walking through walls, or flying to places to destroy things, stop everything you are doing and report that player. If it takes you out of the battle and you die as a result of getting the player reported, consider it a win.

I wish everybody a good round for the few remaining days, and my hats off to GOM for keeping Stonemist essentially untouched for the better part of a week. SF, I wish I had more to say to you guys, but honestly I haven’t seen much of you. I have had the distinct pleasure of chasing down a small group of TT guildies who were harassing supply camps but otherwise, I have stayed out of SF borderlands. I figured that GOM deserved more of my attention due to their larger player base.

Sorry for the wall of text, but sometimes you just get on a roll.

You know Lauren, it’s not too late for SF to join with Ehmry Bay to take down GOM

jbrother.1340:

gosu.4128:

It’s hilarious how so much of this hacking accusation is based on speculation. Yes, we have had hacking incidents in the past, but what proof do you have that all of the orbs were hacked this time?

I can’t speak for the other orbs, but in regards to the orb that was taken from SF’s borderlands, which was located in the north supply camp, was taken in under 4 minutes, with 2 balistas, and a handful of people.

Why?

Because it was undefended, with only NPCs guarding the orb. I can’t fathom how an undefended orb, at the north altar, can be claimed as “hacking”, when it was barely defended.

Any server that leaves their orb at the defence by NPCs, with zero sieges, AND at the north altar, is questionable.

What I’m concerned though, is despite our shameful hacking incidents in the past, there is a growing trend of possibly falsely accusing any server of hacking, (unless completely obvious, like flying straight through walls and stuff).

First I want to say I know I am about to be infracted for this post I could care less. if the company cannot handle its customers talking some kitten to each other kitten them.
It is what WWW is ALL ABOUT. War. I know when I am at war I would demean my enemy in anyway I could to demoralize them. Of course in a game this does not mean cheating in anyway. I am just talking about the forms…

This is to any of you kittens that is acussing GOM of hacking this week. Prove it you internet kitten? kittening prove it. I see lots of words and I witnessed the actions of hacking yesterday by SF myself…see how easily I can just say that and provide no proof but my word? Don’t be that kittening ignorant seriously. The server contains hundreds of players none of which have the expertise to hack a paper bag with a pair of scissors. kitten (directed only at the actual kitten that love to sling accusations) do you realize that anyone that can perform necessary hacks to grab orbs or T-BAG you can just move from server to server watching us slap each other in text in game and in forums. THEY are the ones getting the laugh here. You are pulling a full lemming and you can never go full lemming… please flame me now.. now i say kitten now. I AM flaming you I am calling you out. Show me your kittening proof you kittening kitten wad kittens…

See how awful it is to have to even read that. That is the attitude I feel from everyone on this forum that just wants to accuse. Report people, kittening report your guild mate anyone on your server or any server you can see and prove is hacking. Call them out on the forums here by NAME and character they were on. I don’t care if ANET gives a kitten. If they won’t move faster to solve the issues that a disgustingly small percentage of the total player base is causing all of us then kitten them as well. Call them out if you need to. This may be their forum but without their clients (us) they would not have a forum or a game to attach to it.

I play on Gates of Madness and I am NOT A kittenING CHEATER.

(copy and paste that into a reply to this message if you are to)

Kitten kitten kittens, kitten kitten kitty poop on a kitty kitten kitteners all over your kitten.

Kitten you and all your kittens with a kitten kitten kittener

PS fun match-up so far. I think I’ve killed about 250 GOMs over the last few nights and they were tasty

I spend 99% of my time in WvW and Signet of Rage is always the buff I have on. I have the same setup as the OP with the swiftness duration buff so I also have a 4 second cooldown.

If an enemy is running from a losing battle, I am the last person they want to see in their rear view mirror because I will be on them in a heartbeat. The combination of sword/shield and greatsword give me all the tools i need to chase down and trap them. By the time the trailing group arrives to finish them off, I am off to the next target to make sure they do not make it to safety.

The only time I drop signet is in situations where I know my group will be outnumbered. I will switch to Rampage elite and Hammer + Mace/Shield since i can totally remove 2-3 people from the fight. Using Rampage at the beginning of the fight can easily swing the battle in your favor by keeping people from doing anything but worry about you CC’ing them. Between Hammer, Rampage, Mace and Shield, you will have 10 CC’s at your disposal.

Thank god I’m not the only one who was experiencing this. I re-logged to fix the problem but when queue times are high, this will not be an option and will send me to bed early.

i7 2600k
GTX 570
8G ram

So last night I was playing in the Gate of Madness Borderlands and fighting stragglers and people off on their own.

I saw a ranger in the distance and noticed that his little spider/scorpion pet was being beat up by 5 MOA birds and decided to go take him out while his pet was out of action.

Upon reaching the target, he split in to 3 rangers. 3 exact images of himself kind of like the mesmer’s ability to create clones. Now I have had the opportunity to fight a good number of Rangers in the past, but this little trick was unknown to me. Is this an actual ability or was it some kind of hack, OR did I in fact, just meet a Mesmer with some kind of pet out?

I wish I would have snapped an image of it, but hopefully this description was not too vague for people to provide an answer.

sam.4673:

Please fix this ANet, I can see myself really enjoying it in the future when it isn’t completely imbalanced.

Anet has no control over people playing in WvW or not. It comes down to how many people from your server want to participate. When you are a group of 15 vs a group of 50 on a map, you will usually hold only a couple points, and the other force will take and keep the rest.

Rhyis.7058:

So basically you did wvw once, died, and then complained about it.

lol, kinda sounds that way doesn’t it?

I was playing in both Eternal Battlegrounds and the Ehmry Bay Borderlands last night and overall it was pretty fun.

I have to admit that Maguuma outnumbered us by almost 2:1 but it still was a good challenge. In Ebay borderlands, we ended up recapturing the top half of the map after we originally had nothing, but I’m sure that was all retaken later.

A lot of players give up when there is no chance to gain a position, but I think those people give up too early. Capturing points still grants xp, karma and silver/copper so folks should still try to at least capture things.

The reset tonight should bring out more players and will probably be a better experience for you. I think its about 6-7pm Mountain Standard time when the restart kicks in.

Hi Junkkis,

I have been playing a Warrior in WvW from lvl 20 to 80 and I can tell you that relying on a ranged weapon is not going to provide you with the best experience on a warrior. We do not shine as a ranged class and I wouldn’t suggest keeping a ranged weapon in your offhand.

That being said, you should be switching your weapons up based on the situation. There may be times that a ranged weapon is useful (like when fighting a Veteran supervisor at a supply camp so you don’t get hit) so I would not give up on rifles and longbows completely.

I currently run with a sword/shield and greatsword combo and signet of rage for high speed travel across the map. This can get you in and out of trouble in a hurry and the shield provides a lot of extra protection in addition to your endure pain, invulnerability buff.

Overall the warrior is best in a group setup. You can find the occasional 1 v 1 and do quite well vs most classes, but usually your strength is going to pick off guys trying to flee the battle, and also breaking enemy front lines. Warriors are great pushers and can really cause chaos to the enemies back line attackers. Just make sure your team is there to back you up when you go running in, otherwise you will be slaughtered 20 v 1 while your team runs the opposite direction.

ya, WvW is about being where your enemy isn’t and disrupting their supply and reinforcements along with protecting what is yours.

Its only 2 v 1 because an opening has occurred a due to over extension OR you have an item that both parties want (ie keeps, towers or supply).

I really don’t see the two sides working together as much as both sides being forced in to a confrontation and picking the path of least resistance.

Zierk.4289:

@Furiousbeard

I think he’s making a pun to the so called “nightcapper” fad being complained about all over these forums =]

LOL, man I just get so sick of all the whiny babies out there.

All I’ve seen him do is QQ about night cappers all day…

Kazim.2043:

I believe everyone at NA should transfer to HoD and everyone on EU should transfer to VS. I think this would solve the problem completely.

However it’s just not QQ. There are 2 serious problems with current game design.

1. Long Queues on primetime
2. Investments going to nowhere when you sleep.

So some players just play less WvW or play casually. Some come here and try to find a solution. The first group is the one that you should fear most as they’ll go silently.

Let me get this straight. You make a post that says “here is a perfect solution” which is then followed by “this is not QQ” (yet you’ve been qqing about nightcappers all day), then followed by “my solution has problems, see point 1 and 2”. Then you make vague pointless statement about casual players playing casually and then leaving… silently….

Hahahahahahha, XD

How is anybody supposed to take you even remotely seriously when you post things like this?

Kazim.2043:

The most overpowered thing is the guy awake at 05:00 AM.

I guess I’m OP then… does that mean i will get the nerf bat soon?

Next thing we know, A.M. players will make a thread about daycappers having an unfair advantage because majority of the people play during the day…. this is idiocy.

This topic is dead to me.

I would have to take my hats off to the server that has 24/7 coverage. Good job on their part for dominating WvW in its present form.

If you want 24/7 coverage, move to those servers and then you’ll have nothing to complain about. Ginzo you really need to stop being such a baby about this and just move on.

Think about this. What if you had 3 servers matched up that were all in the same region. For argument sake, lets say they are all in one state and have the exact same time zone. Now what if 1 of the 3 servers was full of people that worked late shifts and played all night? Would you still be here complaining about night capping even though everybody is in the same region?

What is it that is actually bothering you?

I think 4 days max, 3 days min. A week is far too long.

Great battle last night in Ehmry Bay Borderlands all! It was a real challenge to keep both Maguuma and TC from pushing us over, but we managed to hang on.

There was a lot of misdirection, and gun and run tactics at play but overall made for a very fun evening!

Thanks for leading commander Jamaz, it was a pleasure.

I vote for 3 day or 4 day WvWvW

At the end of a week the victor usually has a very large amount of the entire world map. After 2 weeks people will just stop playing WvW altogether (winner and losers).

I think 3 day length would be ideal, and 4 would be maximum. With 3 day tournaments you will get 121 rounds per year, almost 122.

This will do positive things for people playing WvW
1. It keeps things fresh for people who like the constant battle on all 4 maps
2. It will cut down on hurt feelings and poor morale on the losing sides
3. Winning servers will just win more
4. More data can be gained by ArenaNet
5. More people will be attracted to WvW since it’s always changing and doesn’t turn stale.

Noobgonewild.7389:

Furiousbeard.7602:

Noobgonewild.7389:

Furiousbeard.7602:

Since we will be most likely taking a 3rd place finish this week due to the efforts of Tarnished and Maguuma, I can look forward to an easier opponent next week. The more 3rd place finishes we receive, the closer we are to a lower spot vs weaker opponents. This “ganging up” of 2 servers against one is ultimately self defeating because eventually these 2 servers will be separated and unable to assist eachother when fighting foes that are even higher than we are. Fighting for a top spot is not always a good thing… especially in WvW >:)

I say good day!

Have you been watching the WvW scores? We are far from 3rd.

“Yes” would be the answer to your question, and we are certainly 3rd.

I say a big “good day” to you sir!

Sorry, Im employed. So I dont get to play all day to see up to the minute scores.

Employed and apparently blind as well. I think you should spend less time trolling and actually look at pictures when people show you the updated lists within 3 posts after your own.

eCheese.8240:

@Jestersmiles

“hiding behind a zerg” could ostensibly be a response to absolutely anyone in WvW. Every server has its zerg. The fact that I play WvW makes me no more likely to “hide” behind a zerg than yourself, or anyone else playing this game.

That being said, if my zerg is better at WvW than your zerg (organization, tactics, etc.) then we will have a better score…

Go play some sPvP and kitten, or…

Crai more.

I just wanted to point out that the word cry is spelled cry. Your e-bonics is ugly to look at.

eCheese.8240:

LOL the self pity in this thread amongst the EB players is so sad.

In a reasonably close 3rd place after coming out the gates strong for the first 24 hours? Having battles on 2 fronts vs 2 enemies on a 1v1v1 map schema?

Must be that they are getting double teamed!

OR

All 3 servers are doing their best to win vs the other 2, and you just happen to not be the best at it on the server.

Nah, couldn’t be that, you must just be getting picked on.

Crai more noobs.

Since I haven’t been belly aching about this weeks clash of the kittens, i don’t take offense to your comments

BUT I do support the call for cry babies to take a nap even though you are putting up a good troll post

Rhyis.7058:

The OP already acknowledged he was trolling. On this very page.

The plot thickens…

Conspiracy theorists will say he admitted to trolling to mask the intention of an alliance. very very interesting indeed.

I can’t wait till I’m home and can ACTUALLY fight some peeps. This whole forum fighting is getting me frustrated. It’s like a lot of foreplay with no release. I’m getting blue “kittens” over here!

Thrashbarg.9820:

Yesterday at dreadfall bay, EB took TC long , then Maguuma (who had snuck in) took it from EB almost immediately. EB moved in on and harried TC’s , which devolved into a messy 3 way inside dreadfall ….

Everyone scores a kitten overall.

If you really read between the lines of the post, I think you get a good understanding of what “The Real Story” is during this weeks “meating” of servers….

raised eyebrow

The one with the most people……..

lol, sorry i had to say it

Rhyis.7058:

I almost feel sorry for the people that think there’s an alliance. It means they aren’t aware of the constant ebb and flow of rvr yet. 2 servers currently going at it at a certain front? Better believe the third party is going to take notice and take advantage against one of those servers. This is standard here in the middle of the pack.

It’s my understanding EB steamrolled their last match up. Welp, welcome to the real fights. You gonna get pincered from time to time. It only gets worse as you move up the ladder.

Last week on Ehmry Bay was an interesting one, but also extremely boring. This week is full of excitement and constant action in zones. I really love it.

I totally agree with you Rhyis, if you’re going to extend yourself to capture a point on the map, you should be expecting at attack in a location that your main army is not. That is just called good tactics and smart siege warfare.

I’m looking forward to see how this week plays out and who we get paired with next round.

I like the term “crushing” being used in this thread when the pie chart shows something a lot more even, but I digress.

Some of you folks are getting too excited by this thread and it looks like its one of the more popular ones to date. Almost 8K views and just about 6 pages

So i suppose WvWvW can also be played in the forums when people are at work. hahaha

Noobgonewild.7389:

Furiousbeard.7602:

Since we will be most likely taking a 3rd place finish this week due to the efforts of Tarnished and Maguuma, I can look forward to an easier opponent next week. The more 3rd place finishes we receive, the closer we are to a lower spot vs weaker opponents. This “ganging up” of 2 servers against one is ultimately self defeating because eventually these 2 servers will be separated and unable to assist eachother when fighting foes that are even higher than we are. Fighting for a top spot is not always a good thing… especially in WvW >:)

I say good day!

Have you been watching the WvW scores? We are far from 3rd.

“Yes” would be the answer to your question, and we are certainly 3rd.

I say a big “good day” to you sir!

Hi Everybody!

I wanted to throw in my two cents on this weeks WvWvW and mention that it has certainly been a good fight so far. I play on Ehmry Bay and it is a fantastic challenge when facing two large forces on two fronts. I have read a good number of posts in this thread and had a few good chuckles with regards to “time zone exploits” hahaha. I never knew it was an exploit to live further west of another person, but I guess people need something to complain about.

Anyway, I hope that people don’t get too worked up over this weeks event. This is of course just a game, and due to the way WvW was designed, it will never be a fair fight. People just need to accept this fact and move on.

With the point differences between the 3 servers, I feel quite proud that Ehmry Bay has stayed in the running and isn’t being beaten up too badly in this “2 v 1” (i say it in quotes since I don’t believe it’s actually the case, everybody is fighting a doing what is best for their server).

Since we will be most likely taking a 3rd place finish this week due to the efforts of Tarnished and Maguuma, I can look forward to an easier opponent next week. The more 3rd place finishes we receive, the closer we are to a lower spot vs weaker opponents. This “ganging up” of 2 servers against one is ultimately self defeating because eventually these 2 servers will be separated and unable to assist eachother when fighting foes that are even higher than we are. Fighting for a top spot is not always a good thing… especially in WvW >:)

I say good day!