Guild Wars 2

Crimson Magdelana.9024:

Once upon a time IoJ and DR played FC. IoJ made it a point to destroy DR due to DR bragging and overhyping their skillzorz!!1!

DR never overhyped their “sklilzosr” in comparison to IoJ’s. Even your organized groups have a hard time beating PUG’s from DR.

You have your reply already.

DevonCarver.5370:

Equinox.4195:

So, in regards to GvG and openfield, I don’t see a lot of “rampant speculation” going on. If nothing else, you chose your words poorly. The complaints about this new system potentially killing the GvG scene is entirely grounded.

This forum and this topic in particular are about WvW. WvW is about sieging and controlling objectives and about open field combat. All our changes are with that totality in mind and will continue to be.

DevonCarver.5370:

Watch this Friday’s livestream.

Devon, I really hope this BL change is good with the way you have been hyping it up for weeks now. There have been many valid concerns raised by the community which haven’t been responded to.

Oozo.7856:

Ostricheggs.3742:

Oozo.7856:

Ostricheggs.3742:

Also:

http://www.twitch.tv/ostricheggs/c/2760126

lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKQJYTeHZIo

Maybe it’s tPvP or something but clumping up to revive a guy in WvW will get you a /laugh and a loss.

I don’t understand the need to post a clip showing a loss and ridiculing the other side for it because we all win some and lose some. There was nothing terribly embarrassing about the loss Baest took there. You call it a zerg but it looked like a relatively even number fight to me.

And Yarr does have good players.

I’m not a part of the random group you just posted there. I’m never part of an organized group in WvW because let’s be honest, this entire thing is a huge joke.

The Champion Legionnaire Ranger from Jock is definitely there. He is in your group in the movie you posted. I guess the Asura engineer with the black skin and light colored afro isn’t you. He’s just someone that looks almost exactly like you running with the same guy that’s grouped with you in your movie?

Anyway, not a bad idea running in groups with a bunch of different tags. That way when you lose you can say you were disorganized but when you win you can post movies and ridicule people. Best of both worlds, really.

Oozo, back off!

… this guy’s a streamer.

Generally speaking the GvG would happen on server C borderland (closest spawn), so it’s not a problem.

Solstice.1097:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Solstice.1097:

DR you guys have odd peak times what gives? Hard to have a lot of good fights when we seem to be very much opposite in coverage. I’m just wondering what time zone your server is mainly in.

95% NA.

hmm… our servers must have different unemployment rates >.<

How does employment rates factor into this?

Solstice.1097:

DR you guys have odd peak times what gives? Hard to have a lot of good fights when we seem to be very much opposite in coverage. I’m just wondering what time zone your server is mainly in.

95% NA.

VOLKON.1290:

Gab Superstar.4059:

VOLKON.1290:

Wait… we have a mage?

No, he’s saying he played a mage in World of Warcraft before, and despite thinking that was OP, it doesn’t come close to some of the builds available in this game.

But I guess feigning ignorance is the way to go nowadays.

You sure that’s what he’s talking about? The only time I see WoW mentioned is in a negative spurt at the end. Beyond that I can’t decipher much at all.

Could be mage in any game, World of Warcraft being the most prominent. In any case it’s irrelevant beyond your own opinion of whether or not the mage class in that game was OP in relation to some of the stronger builds in GW2. He is definitely not referring to the elementalist as a mage, if that’s what you are insinuating.

chronometria.3708:

The op is trying to blame his atrophied skill on “power creep of equipment” I think. This is nonsense, considering a good half of us still wear the same thing we have done for the last 6 months with maybe a tiny adjustment from a handful of ascended items.

While there isn’t much of a powercreep going on with equipment, there is a power creep going on within builds.

His problem is that he has left the game for a long time and in that time people have learned to play their classes well.

While this is true, your profession / build will trump player skill in a lot of cases. Even an exceptionally mediocre phantasm mesmer could beat most melee players for example.

chronometria.3708:

He also seems to be playing a condition elementalist. I play one myself and I do not make the mistake of thinking I am a warcraft mage.

He’s not playing an elementalist.

chronometria.3708:

My advice to the OP is to go roll a necromancer if they impress him that much. Also, go get practice in and learn to play the game as well as everyone else who didn’t leave for a half year period to do something else.

So your solution to imbalances is to roll whatever is FotM?

VOLKON.1290:

Wait… we have a mage?

No, he’s saying he played a mage in World of Warcraft before, and despite thinking that was OP, it doesn’t come close to some of the builds available in this game.

But I guess feigning ignorance is the way to go nowadays.

High WXP rank does not equal a “veteran” player. If anything, the more people play WvW the more they tend to drift away from zerging in favor of other activities.

Dovgan.8605:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Dovgan.8605:

Newbkakes.4971:

Sorry AR, couldn’t resist.

Probably could have gotten away with 6 rams, that looks like a waste of supply and money.

Are you implying that WvW as a whole is not a massive waste of money? O.o

Done right it isn’t. We tend to make money while upgrading and throwing down siege. With the way they reworked the loot table you don’t make a profit?

I don’t see how making a profit would cancel out what I said in any way.

Theftwind.8976:

Private tags are one thing but I would like to see different colors/ranks for Commanders tags earned with the following method.

New Commander – buys his book for 100 gold gets a blue tag and the same size squad he currently enjoys.

After that point in time Commanders will start to gain ranks by how many people they successfully lead through the capture of an objective. So Commander “Bob” and his squad take SM Castle then a percentage of the total WXP that his squad gains is applied to his Commander rank. Once he gains enough rank points he can progress to a different color of tag and more abilities such as a larger squad, etc. This also will separate WvW Commanders from PvE Commanders.

In this way good Commanders, who know what they are doing and who can lead people without ticking them off will rise up through the ranks. Commanders that do not have a clue on what WvW is about or who constantly berate the enlisted ranks will find that nobody wants to join them and thus they will not get the WXP percentage points required to move them up in rank.

After all that a simple switch for private/public can be added to the tag so if you seen a Commander tag with an X or other symbol on the tag it is a private tag and the Commander would have to approve requests to join. (or find some method to automate it)

Terrible idea, there is absolutely NO way of adequately judging the quality of a commander.

GrandmaFunk.3052:

eekzie.5640:

Right now, the majority of the ranking is based off how active a server is in WvW. Rather than how skilled they are.

How would you evaluate a server’s skill level?

Points divided by amount of people?

Either way I think it’s a terrible idea. I’m happy to let T1 players revel in their zergdom.

Dovgan.8605:

Newbkakes.4971:

Sorry AR, couldn’t resist.

Probably could have gotten away with 6 rams, that looks like a waste of supply and money.

Are you implying that WvW as a whole is not a massive waste of money? O.o

torridstoic.7492:

Bpro.8792:

[BSty] is looking to do some 2 v 2. It is just for fun and practice! Let me know if you are interested

/w me sometime, I’m up for it. As long as your second isn’t Oozo.

I’ll pay 3g if you get Oozo to a fight club.

I just find it hillarious that we are discussing the tactical advantages of building an AC to finish two downed players.

It was a harmless joke targeted at some angry dudes who had spammed emotes on my dead corpse after I got outplayed earlier. Let’s leave it at that.

FishEB.2043:

Tots.3056:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Hey Tukmolytes come defend the honor of your guild :<

ah and yet another fine example of bad IoJ open field combat.
I’m sorry we’re not doors.

Now idk about you guys, but I only see 2 IoJ vs 4 of you with an AC. If that makes someone bad to lose in that situation, what does that make you who won with a 2:1 advantage? Not much of an accomplishment IMO.

It was a 3v3 actually, and we only built the AC after they were both downed.

Alyrico joined in after and there was another TRBO dude who died earlier.

Don’t care so much for the titles, but it would be nice if your time spent in WvW would net you alot closer to the same amount of achievement points as your time spent in PvE. I’d say about half my total playtime was acquired in WvW, yet my WvW achievements only count for 2,25% of my total achievement points.

I got more than double my current WvW achievement points from 2-3 hours of doing PvE last night while farming for my 6k chest. While I don’t suddenly expect to have 12k achievement points once this patch hits, I hope that there’s at least something feasible to work towards in WvW.

Hey Tukmolytes come defend the honor of your guild :<

vincecontix.1264:

Well had a great time in Dr bl tonight with my 5 man group so much no stop action. It was very enjoyable taking on groups 2-3x our size and winning . Thank you for all the loot bags dr. Oh and the 3way at Greenlake tower was intense. Watch out for the FT tag this week Dr there will be a few of us roaming around in your bl for the remainder of the week

Non stop action? Doesn’t your guild run a minimum of 80% P/D thieves?

Those fights put me to sleep better than anything.

Or we could just remove player damage to doors.

People who want to defend will defend.

It’s impossible to defend when a zerg can just PvD a gate down in a minute.

nyckolag.2394:

Gab Superstar.4059:

nyckolag.2394:

That wasn’t me, silly. ^^ Nice try, anyway. You know, with those 10 other guys you had with you.

Not gonna gloat, but can you please amend this statement?

Thank you.

Gloat all you want, but I was still never on the ground by your trio’s hand alone. ^^

EDIT: Sorry, you’re right. You downed me but I got back up again.

Uhm, I’m talking about the fact that you implicate we need “10 more guys” to kill any one of you.

nyckolag.2394:

That wasn’t me, silly. ^^ Nice try, anyway. You know, with those 10 other guys you had with you.

Not gonna gloat, but can you please amend this statement?

Thank you.

nyckolag.2394:

Gab Superstar.4059:

nyckolag.2394:

D’awww all you DR guys with your cute IOJ tags. ^^ I just want to hug your anger out of you.

Which one do you like the best? My personal favorite is

Wait Go Back To Cannon Range [IOJ]

I think they’re all quite funny, but your anger is nevertheless palpable, hehehe.

The only palpable thing here is the dirt you are lying dead on, hehehe.

nyckolag.2394:

D’awww all you DR guys with your cute IOJ tags. ^^ I just want to hug your anger out of you.

Which one do you like the best? My personal favorite is

Wait Go Back To Cannon Range [IOJ]

nyckolag.2394:

Hahahaha, first time I’ve been stealth trapped with uneven numbers and an AC aiming at us, DR. Sure was an experience!

Didnt you guys die?

Except for that one guy who just ran away lol.

How many players does IoJ need to take a paper tower? Evidently more than this. My favorite part is in the first screenshot. Orange swords on a single poor dude when you still have another 15-20 building siege on the gate.

Mhmmmmm.

kitten IoJ, calling out that STAS unit on south camp?

Vewry goowd!

neiliam.8614:

DR laughing at me losing to a 1v5 after I killed one of them = I will laugh at all DR deaths by me this week. I stoop to other people’s levels. I don’t need to be the bigger person in a video game anyway, lol. Game on folks.

Lol! Game on mate haha

Something I would like to see is a guild upgrade in Art of War 3, that gives 1% of money looted in WvW to a separate guild bank. Players who can claim objectives within the guild can then pay for upgrades using this separate bank. Or something like that.

Either that or a system where everyone in the zone gets the option to chip in a few silver towards whatever upgrade is being queued somewhere, with the remainder being paid by whoever queued it.

Oh boy… I was kind of hoping that ZH would face EB sometime soon but with the way you are dropping rating I guess that’s not going to happen.

The problem with Mend is that they are so desperate for attention they have to go to these lengths to attain it. No one cares about them because they aren’t good at all. If people think you are genuinely good they would post about you, making posts like the one below is just such a pathetic call for recognition it hurts. Last nights incident was as well.

Naz.2607:

Hmmm… I see no one wants to talk about the kitten-whooping [Mend] & HoD gave BP & DR @ Stonemist last night.

Not only did we get in while it was under enemy control, we got past you & the Lord’s room to the 2nd floor and proceeded to farm you mercilessly for hours.
I believe you have been formally introduced to [Mend] now.

Was tasty. Ty for the badges & the WvW level

Commander Flappy had a dream, and we Menders like to make sure his dreams come true!

HatasGunnaHate.3627:

Gab Superstar.4059:

HatasGunnaHate.3627:

So you are calling me HoD which is not possible because HoD is a server made up of lots of players.

No, I called you a part of HoD or I meant to rather!
(sorry for not elaborating further earlier).

Pretty sure I am not a part of HoD. Keep going! This is hilarious @ 2am.

Edit* He’s deleted his forum posts in shame. TY Quotes and bads
Go ahead an insert a “My Bad” in there Gab. On a 1/10 scale how mad are you? 25ish?

Oh haha you are still posting?

The “Okay” was not an apologetic one, it was a sympathetic one.

HatasGunnaHate.3627:

Pretty sure I am not a part of HoD. Keep going! This is hilarious @ 2am.

Okay.

HatasGunnaHate.3627:

So you are saying I am HoD?
Holy kitten guys I am a server! He called me a server! #1 Forum warrior in the universe!

Go to sleep Gab.

What?

SpehssMehreen.5897:

Gab Superstar.4059:

SpehssMehreen.5897:

sigh, here we go again, such ignorance, such insolence and ingratitude, tired of telling people to get together, organize your guilds, create a server wide comms, WRITE down your wvw guilds and their timezones and etc, have server meetings, but no, im tired, might as well make an “I QUIT” post for all the constructive value youre creating

While there is some truth in this post, it’s clear you come from a place where you have WvW players online 24/7, and where there are mega guilds of 50+ people who queue maps every day of the week.

if you think there are 50 man mega blobs everywhere, even on tier 1 youre sorely mistaken

That’s not at all what I said. Good job going all defensive and proving my point though.

SpehssMehreen.5897:

sigh, here we go again, such ignorance, such insolence and ingratitude, tired of telling people to get together, organize your guilds, create a server wide comms, WRITE down your wvw guilds and their timezones and etc, have server meetings, but no, im tired, might as well make an “I QUIT” post for all the constructive value youre creating

While there is some truth in this post, it’s clear you come from a place where you have WvW players online 24/7, and where there are mega guilds of 50+ people who queue maps every day of the week.

Dovgan.8605:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Dovgan.8605:

Oozo.7856:

In this thread a guy who can’t count gives advice to other people.

[AD] we ran into you guys a couple days ago. Stability/mobility classes sorta ruin your whole guardian group approach. The thief eventually got my girlfriends ranger down, then again she just goes in to WvW to hang out with guildies, she’s not the best PvPer, but she has fun. Maybe you guys remember that extremely long, going nowhere 5ish on 3 we had going at S camp. Evade/bunker ranger and D/D ele. It was a shame our necro guildie wasn’t on though, would have been far more interesting.

Now I don’t run with AD much anymore due to time zone differences but I’m pretty sure there’s no specific “approach” they have towards things. Whatever people are online run whatever they want.

I find it interesting that you would have to flaunt your passive agressive behavior all over this forum thread that was, up until very recently, quite harmonic.

An interesting point of view on the post for sure. However I think you may be projecting yourself into the post. There is no negativity there, I do find your overall take on it unique, however.

Implicating that it would take 5 people a very long time to kill a ranger who doesn’t do a lot of PvP?

It’s a funny world you live in!

Thorson.9218:

Shanks R Us.2489:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Thorson.9218:

Oozo.7856:

Thorson.9218:

lunyboy.8672:

I was at briar in HoD BL last night, and there were around 30 AR trying to take it. So why on earth would you commit more people than you have online at any given time to one small south tower?

And if they were all there, who was fighting us off in EB?

PS. I have screens of it.

Post ‘em up. I haven’t seen 30 AR on the same map in months. I’ll use it as my desktop background to remind myself that there’s hope that we’re growing again.

As to why would we commit so many to one tower? That would assume there was any planning involved. My guess is it was a bunch of bodies from a lot of different guilds and they just happened to be in the same place at the same time. Once I see your screenie I can check the guild tags and know for sure.

You have to realize we have no large guilds any more. ALS was the biggest and they left, and now it sounds like they imploded and have broken up over on DB. Too bad as there were some good comms in ALS, but that’s their problem. They left us with our current problem of ultra low WvW population (once they left and we started to fall, the other large’ish guilds jumped ship too), so that’s what we’re focused on fixing through a new web site, recruiting in PvE zones, etc. It will take a while, but eventually we’ll get the numbers back.

All servers have zergs. The only question is how many. :P

I count maybe 15-20 players. There are lots of pets/minions/etc in there. And as I thought, there are lots of different guild tags in that mess, so it was just a mob.

Now if we could just get 2-3x that number on a map, we’d actually be able to push back on the zergs we face. Someday……

I laughed. Don’t forget clones, though.

Yeah, but these guys will still insist it’s 30+ and those of us on AR are “delusional” because we have no idea how many we have on our server. Meh, whatever. Kitten-heads will be kitten-heads.

We’ll keep fighting w/ our friend Outnumbered on our side and they can think whatever they want. I do see our numbers growing almost daily, so who knows, by reset maybe we WILL be able to field 30+ players on a map. WOOT!

Don’t worry so much about it man. Everyone will at some point go down the path of blaming numbers for all their server’s shortcoming. Once you get past this stage you will learn that playing defense doesn’t require an equal sized zerg. There have been many times this match up when AR has lost their entire side of EB when they shouldn’t have. I realize that many of your players are new to WvW and such, but once these guys start depending on themselves rather than a massive zerg to do well in WvW, AR will be the better server for it.

Thorson.9218:

Oozo.7856:

Thorson.9218:

lunyboy.8672:

I was at briar in HoD BL last night, and there were around 30 AR trying to take it. So why on earth would you commit more people than you have online at any given time to one small south tower?

And if they were all there, who was fighting us off in EB?

PS. I have screens of it.

Post ‘em up. I haven’t seen 30 AR on the same map in months. I’ll use it as my desktop background to remind myself that there’s hope that we’re growing again.

As to why would we commit so many to one tower? That would assume there was any planning involved. My guess is it was a bunch of bodies from a lot of different guilds and they just happened to be in the same place at the same time. Once I see your screenie I can check the guild tags and know for sure.

You have to realize we have no large guilds any more. ALS was the biggest and they left, and now it sounds like they imploded and have broken up over on DB. Too bad as there were some good comms in ALS, but that’s their problem. They left us with our current problem of ultra low WvW population (once they left and we started to fall, the other large’ish guilds jumped ship too), so that’s what we’re focused on fixing through a new web site, recruiting in PvE zones, etc. It will take a while, but eventually we’ll get the numbers back.

All servers have zergs. The only question is how many. :P

I count maybe 15-20 players. There are lots of pets/minions/etc in there. And as I thought, there are lots of different guild tags in that mess, so it was just a mob.

Now if we could just get 2-3x that number on a map, we’d actually be able to push back on the zergs we face. Someday……

Only if the superior version would cost 250 supply, be deployed inside a bunker complete with 4 NPC’s, and have 2 Arrow Carts to each side.

Then we’d be talkin…

Eww… RNG is only fun in a disappearingly small amount of cases.

WvW supply is not one of those.

etiolate.9185:

1. Ballistas get blocked by anything – Why can’t Balistas shoot over the edge of their own walls? It’s frustrating how often ballista shots built on tower/keep walls get nullified by the edge of the walls. The ballista itself is physically aimed above this railing of sorts, but ballista shots always tend to blow up at the slightest climb in trajectory. However, a ballista can shoot nearly vertical straight up despite the 3d model looking incapable of doing so.

Isn’t it a little silly that a Balli is better at shooting straight up than it is at shooting straight forward? This is one of the issues that keeps them from being used more often.

While their trajectory seems to be a bit off, I wouldn’t say that it neccesarily is that much of an issue.

etiolate.9185:

2. I was running a glam confusion mes build. Yes, laugh, but I wanted to give it a try again! However, confusion hits for around 200 don’t really do much of anything. The confusion nerf months back was too drastic. You could double confusion damage on Glam builds and it would still be mildly effective, but at least it would be effective. The current version is pitiful and not worth using. A zerg can still mindlessly spam through it, removing the whole point of a condition like confusion.

I think it is unfortunate that you look at Glamour purely as a DPS build. Glamour builds are still powerful. Remember that the Glamour fields are utility skills (and powerful such) in their own right. The confusion is something that’s being added on top of an already powerful effect.

Antara.3189:

Shanks R Us.2489:

HatSimulator.9362:

So its official ALS (Anvils last stand) has disbanded. 2nd biggest WvW guild i think. Zero (another big wvw guild) has also moved.

Ar is absolutely kittened. We would appreciate it if you’d take it easy on us as we have just lost MORE of our pop. and by more i mean we are down to about 50 WvW players total.

This is a sad day for this server. We are crumbling. But HoD and DR will most likely continue to absolutely destroy us with numbers 10x our size. I dont expect you to take it easy but anyways have fun.

-Asillaa

The old ALS were the first to transfer out. The new ALS was just a casual guild under new leadership, repping wasn’t required. They may have disbanded but I doubt everyone in it left the server.

Edit:

I looked into this. Turns out that AR’s ALS is just fine. The original ALS, that transferred to Dragonbrand, broke up. Apparently Anvil Plants kicked the other leader & took half the roster with him. Could care less about that, though.

hahahahahahah, man I love hearing that. ALS dying from the inside. Plants is an immature troll, I respected his goal originally for making AR better, but once the true nature of his personality came out, pff. AR is better off without the trolls, better than yous’, and immature group. Even though we are small, at least we stick it out for the cause and have fun regardless of loosing/winning.

Dragonbrand will still be good without (Always Losing Sleep, aka the ALS that left AR)

This reminds me of PRO, the biggest WvW guild on DR that went to DB when we started losing in T5. They eventually broke up too and I can’t help but laugh at it sometimes.

The grass really isn’t greener on the other side in many cases. Despite what some self-proclaimed prophets say I think DR is in quite a good spot right now. The latest transfer we got was VP, months ago, and while they are a welcome addition they by no means have the same effect on our rating that a guild like PRO would. The only guild I guess we really rely on right now is DDLG, outside of them it’s exclusively smaller guilds that do the work.

Once AR hits rock bottom I think you will end up in a similar situation as DR.

Waffler.1257:

I run soldier runes on my guard and necros that focus purely on conditions don’t stand a chance against me, guardians can out-cleanse necros anyday assuming the guardian isn’t stupid. Also, maybe you haven’t heard but corrupt boon was nerfed to only remove 5 conditions and as such almost never removes stability anymore as it doesn’t seem to be prioritized. If you go browse the necro forums for builds you will see that most don’t even run it anymore as its main utility was converting stability which it can no longer do reliably. I dropped corrupt boon on my necro as well. As for well of corruption, I’m sorry if you think standing in wells is a good strategy. Whether a profession is too powerful or not depends entirely on its abilities relative to other professions, so I don’t understand why you don’t want to talk about necros from the perspective of other classes. Listing a profession’s abilities by themselves without reference to how other classes can counter those abilities provides no basis for judging whether they are balanced.

Standing in wells is a good strategy? Ahahah man just stop posting.

Problem with picking thief is you will be nothing special. To be considered an excellent thief by your peers you have to be extremely good and play it tons to learn all the intricacies. Necro right now is FotM and I wouldn’t recommend them.

Good rangers in WvW are few and far between, but for doing Arah and Fractals they are generally considered inferior.

Personally I would go for the guardian.

Generally speaking, if you think the grass is greener on the other side you are wrong.

This is the best advice I can give you. Take it or leave it but seriously consider it before transferring.

AggieTechGuy.4901:

Sitting on a treb for 30 minutes? Nope. Having 20 people knock down your garri’s WG while you are focused intently on the wall that is getting trebbed? Yes. And it was especially fun to take your longest-held asset in WvW at the time.

“Everyone” in DRBL was inside Lord’s room before you got the gate down.

AggieTechGuy.4901:

Well, it is a legitimate statement. That tower was held for hours when that screenshot was taken. So unless DDLG and TRON had a really, really dedicated person in that tower that chose not to reveal themselves until DR was knocking on the gate . . .

Uhm… I thought everyone was aware of this bug but I guess not.

Tots.3056:

This is fun for you!? Come on it’s been like 25 minutes now and you all are just sitting there. 1 treb and a foritified wall? Surely there’s something better to do with that time.

Oh kitten, looks like they are closing in on my spy account.

Primefactor.7621:

Next time you cheat, at least take the tower LOL

This is your first week in WvW isn’t it?

MrFluffy.9307:

Tots.3056:

MrFluffy.9307:

Again this is the reason our server has issues with alot of your members, you can’t admit to wiping even numbers so instead you result to saying “you outmanned us 3:1” it’s just not true.

At the same time this is the issue we have with your server. You can’t admit to losing a fight when you greatly outnumber us. You guys say it’s even EVERY single time. When you lose, it’s always “okay good fight you outplayed with EVEN numbers.”

Having exactly even numbers in fights is a whole different ball game. The chances of us having EXACTLY EVEN numbers is very improbable anyway. Someone is going to outnumber the other person in every fight.

the thing is I see lots of DR always saying “you greatly outnumber us” while posting screenshots without the outnumbered buff. I do understand you can still be outnumbered without the buff but I’m not buying this 3:1 BS without it. And yes it’s true that it’s nearly impossible to have an equal number fight but either way give or take 5 people it’s not going to make much of a difference which is why I’m calling it even numbers.

Believe it or not your server is very bad at estimating zerg size hence the reason we have to call you guys out on it so often Not an insult just a fact. Anyways, there were TONS of great fights tonight and for that I thank you. Hopefully we can do this again tomorrow in let’s say…GoM’s BL??

Because unlike IoJ, 98% of DR players in a map are not confined to a 5×5m blob.