Guild Wars 2

[HP] Necromancer;

learn to manage your anger, or
get some sense of what you can and cannot do, or
learn to play.

Sincerely,
Detective Miss Winters,
Very Good Detectives [VGD],
“We make Devona’s Rest free of crime!”

P.S.
Can I have my AC blueprint back, WZ Ele?
D.S.

kitten … FC is some kind of top notch roaming server now that DR has been evacuated?

Who would have thought…

For some reason this thread remind me of people who used to

/emote You have been marked as AFK. Type /AFK to stay in this Battleground.

In WoW. Good times…

Chris Whiteside.6102:

Regarding our process in terms of forum usage as a development tool:

The reality is we do read our forums, and others, every single day. If you look over the last year, and cross reference with community feedback you will see many ideas actioned and many more not.

Then why do developers say you don’t? Why would anyone be interested in providing good feedback when you have developers saying forum posters are just a vocal minority? Furthermore I don’t understand that analogy either. Isn’t ArenaNet a minority when it comes to making design decisions. While you are 100% entitled to it, believing that you are the only minority suited for suggesting design directions is a bit naive, don’t you think? The entire wealth of creativity in the world isn’t confined to your design studio. Discarding suggestions simply because they are made by a “vocal minority” is a dangerous path to tread, and an excuse which ArenaNet seems slightly too eager to wield.

living world

The most pressing demand from the community in regards to the living world is that it doesn’t feel tied together with the rest of the game world. You have tried to remedy this, for example through the new TA path. However, you seem to completely miss the point. For the first 100 hours, people battle the DRAGONS. The elder DRAGONS are the major antagonist in GW2. They and their minions appear everywhere. And then suddenly, after you kill(?) one of them, you are done. No more talk of DRAGONS. Nowhere.

Rather, you are fighting some kind of sky-pirates which you have never seen in any part of the game before. Don’t get me wrong, I do think that Aetherblades are cool and that the Bazaar for example was a really solid update, but when the only new content you deliver isn’t tied in any way to the rest of the world you will never make players feel that connection.

angry forum posters

Again, I can’t dictate Arena Net forum policy. But saying you outright disregard stuff like this is too easily applied on too many cases for an easy way out.

stand out content

This part of your post shocked me a lot. While switch and bait(I guess you can qualify my post as one of those you can just ignore now) has been the case several times with GW2, it will only work so many times. You can’t say that you are creating an MMO that is different from every other MMO, and then instead make it into the same MMO. I’m talking time gated gear grind and massive power creep in WvW. Things like this doesn’t rhyme well with what you say here.

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

I’m not going to be around a computer tomorrow for the live QA session. Anybody want to be a pal and post this to Devon for me? It’s a proposal to balance league play.

http://youtu.be/qHcO6Xo8eJ8

This looks really interesting. I bet that Arena Net is interested (not really, lower transfer sales) in the idea but it’s not something that will happen overnight because of technical issues (like separate resets). Meanwhile they will collect data (like with the changes to contested objectives) from the upcoming season and (not) make adjustments accordingly.

Jon Peters & Co. wants you to leave WvW in favor of eSports, that’s why you will never see any resemblance of balance here.

Hello everyone. I am visiting on Gunnar’s Hold for a week.
If anyone wants to 2v2 please PM me in-game or on the forums.
Thank you.

Sincerely,
Detective Miss Winters,
Very Good Detectives [VGD],
“We make Devona’s Rest free of crime!”

It’s a genius move from ArenaNet to force all the small-group roamers into eSportPvP.

Just like bloodlust buffs and minion health increase. You know… Stuff that don’t really matter in lolblob 60v60 but makes a lot of difference in small groups.

sinject.4607:

Gab Superstar.4059:

sinject.4607:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Things never change… I go into EB and DR is blaming numbers, SF fairweather baddies are running pure glass, and mediocre GoM thieves spam /laugh when they kill some poor uplevel.

Sincerely,
Detective Miss Winters,
Very Good Detectives [VGD],
“We make Devona’s Rest free of crime!”

you are the biggest try hard i have seen post at all
/laugh

Are you really this mad over dying in a game? Please just spend your time learning how to play intead.

Sincerely,
Detective Miss Winters,
Very Good Detectives [VGD]
“We make Devona’s Rest free of crime!”

lmao son dont you remember me ganking you? it was p cute

Indulge me.

Sincerely,
Detective Miss Winters,
Very Good Detectives [VGD]
“We make Devona’s Rest free of crime!”

If you don’t even want to test your skill and try to win against higher tiered servers I don’t know what to say…

sinject.4607:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Things never change… I go into EB and DR is blaming numbers, SF fairweather baddies are running pure glass, and mediocre GoM thieves spam /laugh when they kill some poor uplevel.

Sincerely,
Detective Miss Winters,
Very Good Detectives [VGD],
“We make Devona’s Rest free of crime!”

you are the biggest try hard i have seen post at all
/laugh

Are you really this mad over dying in a game? Please just spend your time learning how to play intead.

Sincerely,
Detective Miss Winters,
Very Good Detectives [VGD]
“We make Devona’s Rest free of crime!”

Hey SF warrior from LAG. Yeah, you. Not so easy to laugh with a stake through your lungs is it? Baddie noob, plz bunker cheese condi more.

Sincerely,
Detective Miss Winters,
Very Good Detectives [VGD]
“We make Devona’s Rest free of crime!”

Pentzski.4620:

Mmmm, well, since Initialise kinda gave up on advertising fight club because of last weeks depressing turnout of 3 people, I guess I’ll post it.

NA will host a fight club tonight at 5pm server time (8pm EST) in CD BL behind the windmill at south camp as per usual. Here’s to hoping Mend doesn’t crash it like every other time we’re in a matchup with their guild!

I heard EDGE was the bane of fight clubs now, or at least that’s what IoJ leads people to believe.

I find it funny that they seemingly don’t know there is a ticking bomb on their own server.

Sincerely,
Detective Miss Winters,
Very Good Detectives [VGD],
“We make Devona’s Rest free of crime!”

Things never change… I go into EB and DR is blaming numbers, SF fairweather baddies are running pure glass, and mediocre GoM thieves spam /laugh when they kill some poor uplevel.

Sincerely,
Detective Miss Winters,
Very Good Detectives [VGD],
“We make Devona’s Rest free of crime!”

Chris.3290:

Maguuma has lost to SoS in every matchup we’ve had. For all of Ms. Katniss’s state of denial, they can’t claim a win until they actually win. Having better roamers or holding a single keep overnight does not count in the score.

Now Maguuma, respected adversaries, stop arguing that you are better and try and prove it.

It doesn’t matter if you are better than Maguuma. If you roll low enough match ups you will undoubtedly lose rating. If Maguuma at the same time rolls high enough match ups, they will undoubtedly gain rating.

SBI can definitely beat SoS without any problem, the only question is if 2 weeks is enough to close the rating gap. It will all come up to lolRNG match ups.

So… I’m guessing this is too good to be true, but are the Sore Coatriders leaving DR? I have heard whispers of it flying around.

If so… Oh man…

tom.7468:

People should stop telling others what to do. They paid the same for gw2 as you. Not following is always a option or join a squad if you don’t want to see the tag. Also i wouldn’t mind that instead of commander costing 100g it could be 100g deposit. The current system is really not alt friendly.
A lot of people use commander tag to just organize their guild in pve.
This change with all the elitist wvw guilds would do more harm than good.
For-example i built one golem in bay. Then everyone in this wvw guild were telling me to leave the golem, 30-40 different people pming me for me to get lost. Some of them were pretty bad. And this is after i pay 100BoH on a golem that i wanted to drive. I ended up just destroying it myself i didn’t want these guys to use it.

So you wasted 100 supply just so you could toy around with a golem for a while?

98% of commanders suck and only rely on outnumbering their opponent. The only use they have is concentrating your forces on a single location so that all the PvE zerglings don’t have to think for themselves. Coincidentally, most commanders don’t seem to think either. The amount of times I have seen commanders throw down 2-3 rams on a gate that is defended by 3-4 superior arrow carts is astounding, as if they are just “making sure” that tactic won’t work before resorting to something equally kittened. After trying 4-5 different things they finally get the wall / gate down due to sheer numbers and all the PvE lemmings cheer for them in /m because they got their ore / bags / fragments.

Protector’s Strike: This skill will now trigger if an attack is blocked while the guardian is in midair.

Finally we get some meaningful changes! It’s only been months since the last balance patch and you are already pushing out such major things. In fact, I think this change might just revolutionize the way we look at WvW, shattering old metas and creating new and exciting ones to replace them. I was about ready to give up on this game a week or so ago, but these changes have made me carefully optimistic about the future of GW2.

Thank you!

Dovgan.8605:

Why does someone in this thread come across as extremely condescending, as well as throughout their entire posting history?

Regardless, had some great fun setting up and defending Mendon’s for the day.

Right!

Also, Opc; why do you dismiss his 2v3 victory? My original post was totally about your members being mostly zerglings who couldn’t handle themselves in small scale combat where you have to rely on your competence rather than the incompetence of the enemy zerg. Gotem’s example definitely serves to reinforce this theory.

CornChips.5392:

That linked post also shows how good you are at reading.

It does?

CornChips.5392:

Also pot-kettle much. You get all grump with someone for being self congratulatory yet your post has just the same flavor.

Would you please elaborate on this?

CornChips.5392:

I’m not holding it against you as 90% of forum post are thinly veiled boasts, just check your own attitude before you call someone else out.

Yeah, I agree. Now if only your guildie would have followed this advice before he started all this drama in the first place. I find it amusing that you collectively have to come out and defend him just because he is unable to do so himself with his driveling. (Pro-tip; you guys aren’t doing too hot either).

CornChips.5392:

Anyway, this is largely pointless argument. TFH has fun fighting ya’ll and we will continue to come out and play. Nothing for you to complain about there and I hope you all have fun fighting us.

When on earth have I complained about the fact that you are having fun playing the game?

CornChips.5392:

On the other hand. A much more exciting thread this week. Who knew DR’s forum crew were so sensitive.

Uhm, I make one post calling you out on your bullkitten and when I check forums again I see ~30 posts discussing it, and you are calling me sensitive?

Phew… Let me take this in for a second.

Opc.4718:

We actually have video recordings of the wipes, with clear numbers displayed on both sides. But of course, no one is ever going to be impressed by them because “any 10 guys with voice comm can do the same”. So moot point right from the start.

I implore you, please show them.

Opc.4718:

Also like I said earlier, the reason why the first brag post came about was because
1) People get bored and bring the battlefield with them to the forums. Happens all the time.

Sure.

Opc.4718:

2) There WAS a lot of wiping. Like, a lot. It was completely unexpected for a t8 matchup and a few people felt the need to point out the irregularity. I’m sorry if it offended any one, but isn’t this what the wvw matchup thread is for?

What the match up thread is for, I’ll let each and every one decide for themselves. However, if you reserve the right to call out all of DR, I’ll reserve the right to call you guys out on being no-skill zerglings.

DevonCarver.5370:

I never said they did. However, I’d argue that they do in fact stand a chance against the 6th ranked server and the 5th ranked server. We are not trying to only ever match you up against your closest comparable server. That was what was happening with the system before and it was bad. If you are saying you don’t ever even want the chance to try and show your skill against a higher ranked server, then I don’t know what to say.

Hahahahahahahaha. Oh my god this thread is just too funny.

http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/history/93

Take a look at T1 and T2 here Mr. Carver, and then tell us all again that a server can “stand a chance” against a server 6-7 rankings above them. Either you are trying to sugar coat it or you really are delusional. I’m guess you play on T1 as well, thinking your ranking all amounts to your amazing skill in the field and not numbers alone? Or maybe you just don’t play WvW at all.

You know, giving higher tier players more rewards is fine, that has been happening all along just like you say. Why you suddenly have to try to hide it behind completely unreasonable arguments is beyond me.

gotem.5284:

Considering your guild’s name has never been mentioned in any team/map chat or on these forums until you had to make a self brag post you guys must be doing a kittenty job at wiping people.

The only guild that has got mentions in map/team chat over the last few weeks has been Yarr and Basic(ET guild).

So in short stop trying to talk like a kitten and focus on getting better at this game.

Excellent post! TFH reminds me of Mend from HoD. Their only way of getting recognition was to post in the thread too about how they supposedly wiped a million DR zerglings for hours. TFH being from AR just makes the whole thing laughable, because we all know how good they are at counting.

I guess I’m just really amused (I love that word) by TFH’s behaviour here. Are you guys under the assumption that I think DR doesn’t have zerglings that wipe easily? Are you guys under the assumption that I would give you mad props on the forums for wiping said zerglings? Neither is true, and even the notion that I was in that zerg is preposterous. Thanks to Opc for some balanced responses!

Oh, and to all the SoCo bears coming out from under their living story: Keep. It. Real.

Bro’s.

Why do they need 7 weeks to decide the victor? Just take one week and whatever server has the most players online, on average, gets the rewards. That way the PvE care bears who are going to be rewarded by this (lol) can get their rewards even more quick.

HatSimulator.9362:

i dont know if this is sarcasm or not but none of you pack stability (even if you did we have necros and mesmers to strip it) you dont pack enough numbers (40 isnt enough against 15) you dont plan anything, you all think your silly huge numbers can jsut rush in and spam 1 to win.. then you lose. Get ready for the same thing all week. it’s going to get boring.

Said about every server ever. TFH is just a mediocre guild who runs the same meta European servers ran half a year ago and think they are the next best thing to sliced bread, but then when you go up against your members 1v1 it’s obvious what kind of players it breeds. Just because you are a zergling guild who turns to slightly more sophisticated methods of zerging, doesn’t mean you’re no longer a zergling guild.

I guess I would agree with you on one thing though; it does get boring.

Condition Damage
Toughness
Vitality

NICE!

Et tu, Lion?

You know, we are not so different after all. If I wouldn’t have called SoCo a “PvX guild”, and if you wouldn’t have called me a “complete and utter kittentard”, maybe we could have been the bestest of friends. But now here we are, Jaaded drawing me cute little hearts while I subtly insult her guild and members.

Alas…

Jaaded.1870:

That’s right Gab!! Bye <3

In all seriousness I think were all done with the drama its done, said and over. Best of luck to everyone leaving!! I hope you find the happiness in this game you are looking for and most of all I hope the Devs give us WvWers more content!

Wait… Are you guys under the impression that I’m leaving? :>

In this thread: If he doesn’t know your wife’s birthday, Neehoe is not sorry you are leaving DR…

… and he’s gonna make sure you know it!

I’m once again going to post this for reference.

When devs say they can’t make the maps any bigger they are missing the point entirely. I know they are making changes to the lake but if that took them an entire year I’m not going to be too hopeful for the future.

The blank areas constitute ~37,5% of the total map size.

SickDelirium.3956:

Gab Superstar.4059:

I think most of them have very valid reasons for leaving the server.

The reasons given are good, but its (1) the timing, and (2) the number of guilds that decided to leave at the same time that make it all look very suspect. That’s why some people don’t think the reasons are credible.

There’s nothing special about the timing, other than the fact that we have been stuck in T8 for a very long time.

Also, the number of guilds leaving is a bit deceptive. Many of these guilds, such as AD/BSty, OBS/EDGE, DDLG/Bags/LEXS consist to a large extent of the same players, or at least players who have developed close ties to each other.

AD, BSty, OBS, EDGE, Bags. None of these guilds departure will affect our PPT a lot, if at all. In fact, the biggest blow we received was losing DDLG and LEXS.

Jeknar.6184:

To all the folks that are leaving DR and are giving excuses to try not look bad: You are leaving the sinking ship. You ARE bad. Because when the server need you most, you just decide to leave because you think “it’s not worth it”…

I think most of them have very valid reasons for leaving the server. Since you are so insightful however, I am giving you the chance to prove me wrong.

EDGE
AD/BSty
OBS
DDLG
Bags
LEXS
BÆST

Go!

Gulagman.9045:

I’m just wondering where all the DR wvw guilds went to…saw a DDLG guy on SBI today… and saw bunch of EDGE guys on BP the last few times YB was matched up against them…

DDLG is not on SBI, and there’s a guild with the tag EDGE on BP. It’s not the DR guild however.

False Hope.8965:

Anyone know where all those DR guilds went to?

AD and BSty went to Ehmry Bay.
BÆST went to Crystal Desert with EDGE and OBS.

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Conversively, PvE players will have to go into WvW if they want to get their weapons as quick as possible. However, the time you need to spend in WvW will be very much shorter than the time you need to spend in WvW for the respective rewards.

The PvE crowd was given excessive amounts of free Badges of Honor through achievement chests… enough for multiple legendaries. Right now, the only WvW-specific requirement a PvE player has to fulfill is map completion, and ANet practically handed that to them on a silver platter by randomizing team colors and match-ups.

If I was unclear: I don’t think Laurels will be used for ascended weapons. Instead, there will be new T7 materials rewarded for doing different aspects of the game daily. From the Looking Ahead in 2013 blog post:

We’ll also add a new set of account-bound crafting materials to the game. You’ll receive these materials as guaranteed rewards once per day per unique location for completing content within a category of gameplay in Guild Wars 2.

For example, capturing camps, towers, and keeps in WvW will earn you these crafting materials. In the Living World, you can earn them for killing giant world bosses, defeating dungeons, completing jumping puzzles, completing mini-dungeons, finishing some types of guild missions, capturing temples in Orr, and other activities.

So basically the best way to obtain Ascended weapons is to transfer once a week to whatever server you think will stomp WvW the hardest, hop into WvW and karma train each map once per day then hop out and do the PvE parts.

If you are playing on Vabbi or FoW for example, I’d advice you to get the hell out because you will never be able to compete with the other servers.

OP there is no point in adding your suggestions here. Even if you manage to get the attention of a developer it will just be the same ’ol “We would really like to do this but it takes time”, i.e. the same thing they have said about everything since launch.

Instead of making real, meaningful changes to WvW they have gone the route of adding a meaningless and shallow power grind to keep people playing WvW, and apparently it’s successfull because the amount of people in WvW is rising.

Playing GW2 right now is like looking at a friend or relative that turned to drugs. So much wasted potential, yet you stay around because you hope that maybe, just maybe all hope is not lost.

You will obtain these materials from a variety of things. You will be forced to do dungeons, jumping puzzles, crafting etc if you want to obtain them in a reasonable time.

Conversively, PvE players will have to go into WvW if they want to get their weapons as quick as possible. However, the time you need to spend in WvW will be very much shorter than the time you need to spend in PvE for the respective rewards.

Think of them as Laurels. Just more daily achievements for doing different things in the game. If you don’t play for a week or two, or if you can only play a couple of days a week, you are shafted.

I would say the game was innovative on launch.

They have done nothing to build upon that reputation since then however. There are so many things I would love for them to build upon and expand, but instead we get boring bi-weekly patches introducing new shallow loot piñatas that have no place in the Guild Wars universe except for the fact that some guy with a steampunk fetisch who probably don’t even play the game over at Arena Net says so.

I have never seen a game company violate their own lore and reputation so hard in my entire gaming career. There’s nothing dynamic about Arena Net telling us exactly what a patch will contain a week before it’s released, and then whacking a “dynamic” event for two weeks before the next “dynamic” event is released.

PSA: Put your Legendary weapons on the character you want them on before this patch hits.

They aren’t allowing you to swap around stats to be nice, they are doing it so you can no longer transmute Legendaries and move them between characters.

sephiroth.4217:

I wasn’t angry though, if you actually read the post you made me feel pretty pro after not using my thief for like 4 months.

I’m not in that screenshot.

Ansilon.6230:

Kitten? No no no. That forums post was all in fun, so RUN away now please.

Usually I post a .gif when someone is kitten enough to gloat on forums about /laugh and /dance, so have a .gif.
(RUN members from left to right: Moose, Con, Ansii)

What a joke you are.

sephiroth.4217:

Just pulled my thief off the shelf after 4 months or something, tried to 1v4 and resulted being danced on…. I do feel kinda good about it tho, makes me feel pro

Personally, whenever I know I just killed someone who gets kitten enough to post on the forums about it, I spam /dance and /laugh like there’s no tomorrow.

WarLord.8430:

ozoo or whateva your name is

If this isn’t the definition of entry-level I don’t know what is.

Natronix.9827:

-Something so you can back up all the smack talk

Haven’t seen a decent group outside of maybe [roam] from IoJ. I don’t need a PPT lead to back that up.

-Morale of your server and loyalty

If people feel they are better off on some other server, then why should I care if they leave? I personally will never leave DR.

-Bragging rights

Bragging about what?

-Actually enjoying the massive scale fights that WvW is designed for

How does a number on the top of my screen dictate how much I enjoy the game? I’m genuinely curious here.

Natronix.9827:

At least when we do face stronger servers we dont give up and let them have a 40k lead under 24 hours in a match up.

What are we giving up, exactly?

GavinGoodrich.1382:

Sounds like you don’t care at all. But if you don’t care at all, what’s firing you up to the point where you need to tell everyone (or me) you don’t care? Clearly you do care, ‘cause you feel the need to tell people about it. Put that same energy into your server and watch it grow, man. We’ve been workin’ on this for months. It’s nice to finally see it recover the way it is. We really need to be in a higher tier, ‘cause this matchup right now is just…ugh. Doubt anyone’s really enjoying it at this point.

Because you feel the need to tell me that I do care?

Move to a higher tier server and advertise for Fight Clubs in the match up threads. You are bound to get some interest. Also maintain good relationships with the people you fight. Chances are many in their guild are of the same mentality.

GavinGoodrich.1382:

The forum warrioring is strong with this matchup.

The reason there’s so much “lol IoJ players suck” on the forums right now is ‘cause right now, that’s all the servers that are losing have to fall back on. Said servers have smack talked their way into the position they’re in, losing guilds to both their attitudes and their playstyle that doesn’t cater to a rebuilding population as a whole.

We got put in the same position, but our server’s culture centered around the pug, and siege, and infrastructure, upgrades, siege, defense, etc etc, versus “l33t pvp roaming ownsauce open field combat” that doesn’t help rebuild a server as a whole.

We’ve recovered, we have a nice infrastructure that brings lots of new blood into the fold quickly (for you to happily own and make videos about, enjoy) while we can rebuild and grow. We’ve had another 3 commanders get new tags all publicly funded by the server’s donations in the last week. Plus the new guilds that have transferred. Meatspeak is busier than ever. Smaller guilds are taking on bigger objectives on reset nights and doing fine. ALL our commanders get server funded superior siege without having to pay for it. All that results in a higher morale and a higher PPT while you guys are struggling to even maintain the guilds you even have.

We were dissapointed when we ended up matched with you. I’m gonna be mostly PVE’ing all week until we get an opponent worth fighting. Enjoy losing guilds left and right while you beat your chest over “l33t pvp” ‘cause I could care less. We’ve put a lot of effort into rebuilding and we’re happy with the community we have, and where we’re going.

Great. But you are speaking from the perspective of a PPT zergling. I couldn’t care less if DR rebuilds to become the leetest PPT proz of all time. I couldn’t care less if we lose guilds left and right.

I’m glad to hear that IoJ zerglings are getting free siege and commander tags though. I’m sure it will help you when you face servers who roflstomp you because of coverage.

I don’t understand why IoJ acts so surprised. From what I can tell 90% of servers that play you say you are really bad.

I also find it amusing how IoJ tries to ridicule DR by wiping some pug zerglings. Whenever I ridicule someone from IoJ I make sure that person / guild is actually posting in this thread. TRBO for example is totally garbage and yet you have Mr. Tukmolytes here trying to bait everyone into his pathetic trolling. I’m pretty sure he won’t reply to his claim explicitely either. Maybe drop a line about how he’s famous cause I post about him.

Banzie.5248:

7 of us are organized in a guild group, rest are just veteran wvwers. There was ~15-20 DR off screen on the hill above fighting out guys. +those 5 that flash build an ac. Lots of those above were DDLG and ReGA.

Grats, you can beat some unorganized people from the two largest PvX guilds on DR.

Oozo.7856:

Aeneasx.1589:

This game has just become an incredibly frustrating and unrewarding piece of crap, or has it always been like that and I’ve just been blinded by faith.

This game would actually be pretty solid if the developers understood two things.

1. Risk versus reward
2. Min-maxing

Now, you would think that developers of an MMO would understand these things but they have clearly demonstrated that they do not understand these things.

Latest example – runes of perplexity. How is this even a thing? Do they test? Do they even think?

Considering the confusion was mistakenly applied to yourself at first, I’d say they test. Rigorously.

I mean, how could a QA team NOT miss that?

Well, you know you are in trouble when the developer who is livestreaming refers to Supply Mastery as “cool”.

You also know you are in trouble when Devon always speak of changes that have been asked for from day 1 as something that they haven’t even started working on yet.

In a year from now I’m sure we’ll hear the same stuff. “Improving <> system takes time, but is definitely something we want to do”.

Crimson Magdelana.9024:

Gab c’mon man. If it wasn’t such a pain to dig up those ancient threads, I’d be happy to shed some light. But there was a reason I didn’t post a word until about 8 months into the game. DR and IoJ took the same tumble, IoJ was just a little higher up. And for whatever reason IoJ had the worst end of the deal yet kept facing DR and a server with 2x the pop as IoJ and DR (IoJ/DR vs ZerGumma/SBI/EB/BG). And IoJ was third 90% of the time. From t1, to t6. And that took a long time. Hence the love/hate/respect to the “still on the same server” players relationship.

There was a lot of “lol IoJ sucks DR is best” nonsense. And if your memory fails you, feel free to dig it up. The sense of YAAAAAAAAAAY WE BEAT DR FINALLY on IoJ was a serious occasion for a reason.

Both servers were a victim of circumstance, and sadly DR was the better server at the time…or maybe just a server in a better position (population). The bragging got to some people. I’m one of them. Been here since day one. And I still have zero hard feelings to any of you who have done the same…sticking it out and making the best of it. Especially considering the reset today…without what everyone claims is IoJ’s only reason for being decent…the Oceanics didn’t touch the maps. DR simply…wasn’t anywhere to be found.

If you were one of those Transfer jockeys there’d be a lot less respect shown.

However, if you’d like to toss 10 pugs my way vs an ioj “organized group” I’d love to oblige. As I’m sure many, many, many others would. As DR seems to have forgotten about reset night….no struggle at all there…so your comment is a bit debatable.

There might very well be many people on DR who care for PPT, but the ones who posted saying IoJ sucks back in T5 are not those people. That’s why it’s so funny when you try to “stick it to us” for winning in PPT. The last time we played IoJ my highlight of the week was getting run over by a zerg of 25 who proceeded to jump on my corpse for a good two minutes because I was wearing my IOJ tag. This week I doubt I’ll even log on to this account.

Oh and I’m not talking about zerglings, I’m talking about a PUG of DR roamers.