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I put CoE after CM because of the sheer amount of time it takes to kill the evolved destroyer. As I said, I estimated the average amount of time it takes to complete all paths of a dungeon.
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CM is perhaps the easiest dungeon in the whole game, and I learned that one through PuGs. There are little tricks to just about everything that makes the encounters trivial. For instance, bringing up Sure Shot Seamus on the Asura path, the trick there is to go to his room last, run in with whatever condition breakers you have (net turrets) and some invulnerability, and get Traffa to destroy the golem parts before engaging him. The door to the outside will open, and you can now fight him in a wide-open space where he’s no threat at all. Can be done in a PuG with no deaths if only one person in the group knows what they’re doing.
You actually don’t need to fight him at all, you can just break aggro and move on to the next part.
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You can disagree all you want. It still doesn’t change the fact that everything in HotW has so much health that every fight becomes excruciatingly time consuming. This coupled with the fact that underwater combat has kitten balance and is twice as slow as regular combat (there is a reason people only do Butcher), makes HotW more time consuming than CoE.
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GS will be faster, but go with whatever you feel like. If you plan on being a “tank” in dungeons you will probably be sorely disappointed as GW2 doesn’t support that type of play. Nevertheless, a mace would be most beneficial if you are trying to avoid damage.
If you don’t care so much for suvivability and still wish to go with the shield, aim for a sword instead.
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This is for the average difficulty, not path specific. Also I will judge them by time consumed, not how hard they are (as they aren’t that hard).
AC
CoF
TA
CM
CoE
HotW
SE
Arah
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AC is the easiest dungeon, end of discussion.
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I’m not going to argue that signets is the best build for dungeons. I will however argue that thousands of warriors could perform better with a signet build than thousands of warriors could perform with other builds. You make it sound like it totally sucks and should never see the light of day. It obviously doesn’t suck.
It really depends on the build you have. But it’s true that signets help the warrior, but that doesn’t mean that 5 signets is better compared to other very useful skills among them. But we’re talking about dungeon runs here, and signets does not help anyone but the warrior which is the problem. Take the signet of fury. I like this signet a lot myself, but in a dungeon run, why use this signet of fury when the banner that gives precision adds the same amount of crit as the signet? A somewhat decent warrior should know this, and the banner is useful for everyone in your party, not just yourself. Signet of rage is what i always have, except in dungeon run. I like the elite banner more since it benefits everyone. You’re not the only person in your squad, and we may be massive damage dealers, but giving buffs to everyone benefits the entire party.
My impression of a signet build is that it’s used by those warriors who are too lazy to figure out the merits from other skills or are too insecure about how well they would do without signets. Sure i acknowledge that signets are useful, but so are other skills. You make it sound like a signet build would be the best way to go to perform best, but that’s bullcrap. There are a lot of useful skills that help me kill much quicker. I love frenzy and FGJ is a must, either solo or in a party. And signet of rage i use when i solo. But not for the passive gain, but the active one.
And Berserkers armor IS the best armor for dungeons. If you are not going glass cannon what’s the point of using your warrior in the first place? The only reason you would bring a warrior is for the absurd damage they can put out, anything else other classes can do much, much better.
Berserker may be nice damage, and i’m quite sure that you’re a GS wielder too. But other builds can be just as good as berserker. Myself use berserker accessories all over, but my armor is knight armor. My traits is 20/25/25/0/0. Meaning, i got low hp, but high toughness, combine that with decent to high power and crit, and you get a build that decently survives while doing massive damage. Sure you can focus on damage alone, but a guildy of mine with a full berserker build complained that he was too squishy. And how much damage can you do when you’re ded?
I personally don’t have any trouble surviving in dungeons, maybe it’s because I run with a good team composition. Toughness and vitality is also useless when dungeon mobs kill you in 4-5 hits anyway, I wish more people would understand that an active game play will expand your health bar 10 times more than throwing some toughness and vitality on your gear, believe me, I have a full exotic set of both and I have tested them extensively in dungeons.
I also don’t know how I make it sound like signet build is the best way to perform well. I directly state the opposite in the first sentence of my post >.<. Utility skills should be determined by what encounter / dungeon you are doing, and whatever you feel comfortable with. For example you mention signet of fury like it’s a signet that doesn’t even have an active effect. If you don’t use the signets, maybe it’s not the right build for you (just an example here).
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1) No.
2) Yes. Depends on player skill / knowledge of the dungeon. People have done paths with 2 people faster than 95% of pugs who run that path.
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Well with infinite I mean once you complete it, you can do it again and again the same thing. I don’t think it changes in regards to tiers or at least it doesn’t mention it if it does. To me it doesn’t seem to change but I guess next time I can keep track to see if it does.
I’ve completed the hobby dungeon master achievement twice now and in the process of getting the third but I’m a dungeon addict so I do loads :P.
I have done it 4 times now, and I can say for 100% sure that the amount of paths you need to do for each tier (5 points) increases every time you achieve a new one (unless there are other deciding factors like what dungeons you do etc). Either that or it’s bugged (not unlikely tbh, seeing as the bar doesn’t even move for me when I do dungeons).
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This thread is not leveled at glass cannons.
It is glass cannons COUPLED WITH 5 signets.
I am not a “my build is better than yours” guy. But a warrior have many better options than 5 signets for dungeons.
Are you really gonna tell me 5 signets are the best build to use in dungeons? You want to elaborate what 5 signets does better than what warriors have in their arsenal?
Signet of Rage yes, can be worth it(although i muchly prefer rez banner). Signet of Endurance yes, great for dodging/ con removal, but thats about it.
@Gab and no.There is no misunderstanding by bad players here. 5 Signet warriors is a leveling build. Throw glass cannon into the mix and it makes it much worse.
Yes i wont be PUG-ging anytime soon. But please do not teach new warrior players to think glass cannons+5 signets are the best for dungeons.
I’m not going to argue that signets is the best build for dungeons. I will however argue that thousands of warriors could perform better with a signet build than thousands of warriors could perform with other builds. You make it sound like it totally sucks and should never see the light of day. It obviously doesn’t suck.
And Berserkers armor IS the best armor for dungeons. If you are not going glass cannon what’s the point of using your warrior in the first place? The only reason you would bring a warrior is for the absurd damage they can put out, anything else other classes can do much, much better.
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I think the amount increases for every tier you get. The first one is between 5-10 paths, but after that it gets substantially harder to achieve more tiers.
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Can you be more specific. What dungeons exactly make you feel this way?
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Not much at the moment.
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I’m just starting a new warrior and this thread just confuses the hell out of me. I’m trying to read the best way to build one for different situations.
What is PUG?
What is rezzes?
And what do you mean by “full zerkers”?I’d like to know because I hate being on the ground all the time. I’ve already been there with an elementalist and just gave up on that squishy class. My level 80 ele is a mule now
- A PUG is a pick-up-group, a group of players who were randomly picked up for a dungeon without any prior relationship.
- Rezzes = Resurrections / Revives.
- Full zerkers = Armor with Power / Precision / Critical Damage increase. It’s the best armor to use for dungeons when you are playing a warrior but commonly misunderstood by bad players and used as a scapegoat when dungeons aren’t going very well due to other reasons.
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Ah Ruien. You are just about the only person I wouldn’t be surprised to see arguing that the Arah doors being bugged shut is a l2p issue.
Just because there are ways to circumvent a bug, doesn’t mean it’s not bugged in the first place. The truth of the matter is that the circles which are supposed to show what circle a spark is supposed to go in is bugged, and that the sparks are using a very poor aggro mechanic.
I’m totally happy for your dungeon master title, as we all know the dungeons in this game are extremely challenging and certainly not something your every-day player would be able to complete, but in a discussion about game bugs I don’t see how it is relevant.
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I wouldn’t go path 1 any time soon, it’s been bugged for quite a while now.
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But then how would they sell bag / bank slots?
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You have clearly never seen a decent guardian if you think mobs can not be tanked. I and a lot of the other guardian’s i know will face tank the mobs for around 80% of the time. I rarely ever die. 209 time’s over 429 hours. I’ve ran over 300 dungeon runs and tanked my way threw each and every one.
You can’t pull aggro which doesn’t make you a tank. I’m well aware of what Guardians can and can’t do, but thanx for your concern.
Wikipedia:
Tanks redirect enemy attacks and/or attention toward themselves in order to protect other characters or units.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_%28gaming%29 (Wikipedia)
A decent guardian will allow any frontliner to tank. This is why you run only guardians and warriors in everything except Arah.
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-Reduced Punishment to Legit Players From the DR System
This. A DR system on dungeons is the most stupid thing I have ever seen in an online game. I’m pretty sure Arena Net just decided on it just so they wouldn’t have to bother fixing all the lame exploits that lets you complete dungeons in 5 minutes…
I can’t understand for the life of me why you dropped the dungeon / elite area system you had in GW1. A large area that you are actually able to explore in a non-linear order, with multiple event-like quests that you would have to complete to finally be able to go up against a big bad boss. It also punished bad players since you were kicked out if you wiped, something I definately think should be added in GW2.
The casuals had their 8 dungeons. Now add something that actually caters to hardcore PvE players (the people you seem to be bleeding the most). I know you really want to sell gems, but for the sake of your own game, reputation and community, don’t allow the ability to pay tonnes of repair costs be a cruise control for dungeons.
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GW2 has issues rendering other players? Never heard’a!
Was doing some WvWvW today when a ranger disappeared right in front of me.
It was a small skirmish with six players involved.
Sigh…
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Alternate suggestion – explorable mode remains locked until all party members have done story as at present many people will just skip story after ensuring that 1 person on the team has done that..
OR
Make it so that the story mode is no longer 1 and done, and needs to be refreshed periodically for continued access to the explorable content, maybe once a week or once a month or some such, though that still does not get past the issue of people ensuring 1 party member can do explorable and just skip story..
Forcing people to do content they don’t want to do is the worst thing you could possibly do, and I don’t think I need to explain why.
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Just completed this with three people, no deaths what so ever. Could easily be done by two if not by yourself.
Didn’t experience any server crashes or anything like that, but don’t complain about the dungeon itself please.
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@ Cookie
No. All I ever intended was to bash Kevin’s pointless comment about how signet warriors were useless once you are done leveling. I provided a video of a warrior with signets doing an above average dungeon run to prove that point*, not to promote myself as an uber l33t warrior. Fact of the matter is, signet warriors ARE viable in dungeons. That’s all I ever wanted to prove.
That is a very poor interpretation of my posts. Consider I directly stated my purpose in more than one occasion.
Better alternatives means what you are doing is useless?? ._. You are attacking (bashing) a very poorly cheery-picked idea that you formed yourself.
How does “I thought I clicked a leveling video when I saw that many signets.” signalize anything else than your contempt for signets past level 79?
Post*S*.
The whole disregarding everything based on 1 line thing never really sunk in?
I don’t know what part of your reasoning I am disregarding actually. The fact that banners could potentially be better than signets? Here, I’m just gonna throw in some quotes from my posts throughout this topic;
“…Signet warriors work fine in general PvE…
…And it’s a good thing that you realize that utility skills are “highly encounter/situation dependent”, maybe then you will also realize that you don’t HAVE to run signets throughout an entire dungeon…
…He can obviously complete his Arah runs just fine, so why do you have a problem with it?…
…The discussion was not about my team composition in runs, it was about what you assumed the OP’s team composition was, leading you to make statements that may not be relevant because of it…
…I don’t personally run signets all the time (check for example latest video I uploaded to my channel), but at least I can realize the value most of them have, something you seem to be unable of doing…
…I’m not ignoring the fact that banners could have been used during that run, but then again, I never claimed it was the “perfect” run. I just pointed out in a funny way that warriors using signet builds are not totally useless, and can actually perform quite well…
…Of course, judging a player from a single run (or a single YouTube video completely unrelated to anything that has to do with combat), is not very fair…"
I actually have no clue how your mind twisted this into me claiming signet builds were superior Kevin. As a matter of fact, I acknowledged the need for versatility and supportive builds multiple times.
The fact is that you just seem to be desperately trying to find something / someone to bash on.
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@ Cookie
No. All I ever intended was to bash Kevin’s pointless comment about how signet warriors were useless once you are done leveling. I provided a video of a warrior with signets doing an above average dungeon run to prove that point*, not to promote myself as an uber l33t warrior. Fact of the matter is, signet warriors ARE viable in dungeons. That’s all I ever wanted to prove.
That is a very poor interpretation of my posts. Consider I directly stated my purpose in more than one occasion.
Better alternatives means what you are doing is useless?? ._. You are attacking (bashing) a very poorly cheery-picked idea that you formed yourself.
How does “I thought I clicked a leveling video when I saw that many signets.” signalize anything else than your contempt for signets past level 79?
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@ Cookie
“Do you really believe that filling three utility slots with signets is superior? "
No. All I ever intended was to bash Kevin’s pointless comment about how signet warriors were useless once you are done leveling. I provided a video of a warrior with signets doing an above average dungeon run to prove that point, not to promote myself as an uber l33t warrior. Fact of the matter is, signet warriors ARE viable in dungeons. That’s all I ever wanted to prove.
I too am sorry if I offended you, but it seems you misunderstood my point (the above). I never claimed that signets were superior, I claimed that depending on your team composition they MAY be superior (to banners(my fifth post)). I never claimed that my video was an accurate representation of how I always play warrior, or how it “should be played”(my seventh post). Due to the circumstances of the run however, I chose to run what I did. As I said, I often switch skills which is evident by the other video on the channel from my POV.
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You seem to have over-inflated your own ego here, Gab. Again, details you probably wouldn’t have noticed because you’re too busy stroking your ego.
…you’re rather delusional.
…not to show off my ‘ability’ or to be able to reference it.
…will make it through your impenetrable ego.
I’m genuinely confused here. You don’t think it’s suitable for me to pick apart your video, and make comparisons to mine, and yet that is exactly what you did in your previous post.
Please also reflect upon the quoted sentences before you start talking about personal insults, or you will just look like a hypocrite.
By the way, if your guardians were support built it just further proves my point, which is that I apparently managed to survive better with my terrible glass cannon 17k HP build than the warrior in your team with two guardians supporting him. I realize that you might want to build your thief defensively, but it also seems like you die just as much, if not more than my warrior. Being defensively built this feels kinda weird.
Of course, judging a player from a single run (or a single YouTube video completely unrelated to anything that has to do with combat), is not very fair. But since you do it I have no real other option to refute your claims.
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Your answer has no relevance because you didn’t have his “responses” to base your first post on. And no, I have never seen him in-game ever.
As you can’t even correctly respond to a yes / no question (no being the right answer). I’m just gonna assume you lurk forums to troll and irritate people. Well, you had me mildly irritated I guess, well played.
Trolling would be correct if I don’t have evidence to back up my claims. I’m going to reuse the line I said in another thread towards this very same topic. You are going to ignore evidence and reasoning just because you took offense to 1 line?
You are going to ignore the whole point of OP’s video because you took offense to 1 build?
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Okay, so we have that sorted out.
Now, do you believe that dropping the “I thought I clicked a leveling video when I saw that many signets.” will help OP “bring to sight things people often overlook”?
I don’t expect the OP to change his perspectives at all based on some of his responses, and yours too (I assume you run things with him as well). I can only hope he’ll see the flaws in his ways after he spent sometime reading some of these posts.
Your answer has no relevance because you didn’t have his “responses” to base your first post on. And no, I have never seen him in-game ever.
As you can’t even correctly respond to a yes / no question (no being the right answer). I’m just gonna assume you lurk forums to troll and irritate people. Well, you had me mildly irritated I guess, well played.
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Okay, so we have that sorted out.
Now, do you believe that dropping the “I thought I clicked a leveling video when I saw that many signets.” will help OP “bring to sight things people often overlook”?
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How do I refuse banner being better in many situations? I attempted to counter your argument that signets are inferior, by stating that you are assuming a lot, such as OP’s team not including another warrior that uses banners, or maybe the fact that he was NOT in a dungeon at the time, he was actually in a city called Lion’s Arch. Maybe you should stop reading through the lines? Not once have I stated that signets are superior to banners. I have on multiple occasions however acknowledged the fact that switching skills and using a variety of them throughout a dungeon is a hallmark of a decent player. I can actually give you an example of what I wrote earlier in case you have trouble finding it;
“And it’s a good thing that you realize that utility skills are “highly encounter/situation dependent”, maybe then you will also realize that you don’t HAVE to run signets throughout an entire dungeon (you can actually change skills whenever you are out of combat). I mean, I don’t usually see Guardians run around with Wall of Reflection(?) when they are doing general PvE. In Ascalonian Catacombs I expect everyone to switch to it though.”
Oh and for me “dumped” has a negative cling to it (blame my English education if it’s wrong I guess), like you are assuming I just totally wasted that karma for no reason. I totally have the right to “dump” 300 karma so that I can stand around doing nothing for a couple of minutes, just as much as you have the right to “dump” some cash to make the run more pleasurable.
I’m not ignoring the fact that banners could have been used during that run, but then again, I never claimed it was the “perfect” run. I just pointed out in a funny way that warriors using signet builds are not totally useless, and can actually perform quite well, something you seem to not believe in, since you think it should never see the light of day once you hit 80.
Anyway, continue calling out people as idiots through cute one-liners on the forum if you believe it will help “bring to sight things people often overlook”.
It is not an assumption when the OP DIRECTLY admits to not have such in their group. I’m not sure why you are arguing and making assumptions for the OP when he directly make statements about such.
Wasting time placing flags, waiting for its cooldowns, picking them up, running around with them. We move too fast for this pesky playstyle, and each second wasted doing that is 1 less hit others and I haven’t damaged an enemy.
It is funny how you changed your tone from Signet warriors can rival banners to Signet warriors are not completely useless. Anything, literally ANYTHING can perform “well”, you can probably run with no slot skills and still do fine in current level of exploration, the point of this post is about whats more effective, not just some relatively level of acceptability.
Regarding the Karma thing. You are more easily offended than I imagined. You should really reexamine yourself before making statements about others getting angry all the time. You are assuming for “no good reason” part very heavily, going back to reading between the lines. You used karma to bypass an event, yes? That is the end of the statement, not a single claim is made about you have the right to or not, no one really cares.
Okay, I will break this down. You ASSUMED he had no banners in his group when you wrote your first post in this thread, correct?
Before he replied with what you cited above, I pointed this fact out, correct?
Oh and if you think shaving 15 seconds of a CoF run is the difference between using a “not completely useless” and a top tier build, you really need to get yourself reexamined.
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(edited by Gab Superstar.4059)
While I think tokens for completing story mode would break more than make, I do realize the need to some incentive to do it. If there was a token reward you could receive once a week, maybe 100 tokens or so, I believe a lot more runs for story mode would be formed, while still not lessening the interest for explorable dungeons.
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I’m glad I could teach you how to play the game
. I’m also glad you managed to beat a casual run we did for the daily reset by 15 seconds 12 hours after me posting >.<, with a much better team composition, not to mention your oh-so-superior builds. And why are you talking about banners? The discussion was not about my team composition in runs, it was about what you assumed the OP’s team composition was, leading you to make statements that may not be relevant because of it.
I don’t know about you but I am not the one to enforce strict rules on builds and team composition (as evident by the two rangers), when I am just running casual runs with my guild and friends. And why do you even bring up the karma part, out of curiosity. Iirc you popped potions and food yourself on the 9min run. You earn 1800 Karma per run and a gazillion from the new daily / monthly (OP’s video very related). If I want to sit and chill for a couple of minutes instead of fighting I think I have the right to blow 1/6 of the Karma I can make in 7 minutes on that.Oh and accusing me of thumbing your video down? What are you? 12?
Understand that not everyone lives in an Australian time zone, you make it sound like we were trying for hours on end to skip 2 packs of mobs. I guess I should have included the end with 60 tokens.
CoF path 1 run time is asymptotic to its NPC dialogs, yes the amount time you shave as you get closer to that point will be very small. Nevertheless our Effingy was 20-30 seconds faster than yours, feel free to attribute that to class composition over superior builds, it is obvious you refuse accept Banner being better in many situations despite your own video evidence.
Anyways, was my assumption not correct? Banners are not provided in your party. There were plenty of down time window and the situation (CoF Path 1) were perfect for such use. Yet you have conveniently ignored this statement for several posts now.
I’m not trying to change anyone’s play style, I just want to bring to sight things people often overlook.I use food/potion for almost every single path I do (it is an old MMO min/max habit). I bring up karma because you bypassed an encounter from using it, am I not correct? I never made a statement about you can’t use it, you really need to stop reading between the lines.
How do I refuse banner being better in many situations? I attempted to counter your argument that signets are inferior, by stating that you are assuming a lot, such as OP’s team not including another warrior that uses banners, or maybe the fact that he was NOT in a dungeon at the time, he was actually in a city called Lion’s Arch. Maybe you should stop reading through the lines? Not once have I stated that signets are superior to banners. I have on multiple occasions however acknowledged the fact that switching skills and using a variety of them throughout a dungeon is a hallmark of a decent player. I can actually give you an example of what I wrote earlier in case you have trouble finding it;
“And it’s a good thing that you realize that utility skills are “highly encounter/situation dependent”, maybe then you will also realize that you don’t HAVE to run signets throughout an entire dungeon (you can actually change skills whenever you are out of combat). I mean, I don’t usually see Guardians run around with Wall of Reflection(?) when they are doing general PvE. In Ascalonian Catacombs I expect everyone to switch to it though.”
Oh and for me “dumped” has a negative cling to it (blame my English education if it’s wrong I guess), like you are assuming I just totally wasted that karma for no reason. I totally have the right to “dump” 300 karma so that I can stand around doing nothing for a couple of minutes, just as much as you have the right to “dump” some cash to make the run more pleasurable.
I’m not ignoring the fact that banners could have been used during that run, but then again, I never claimed it was the “perfect” run. I just pointed out in a funny way that warriors using signet builds are not totally useless, and can actually perform quite well, something you seem to not believe in, since you think it should never see the light of day once you hit 80.
Anyway, continue calling out people as idiots through cute one-liners on the forum if you believe it will help “bring to sight things people often overlook”.
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That’s funny, because it appears as if in your CoF video Cookie, your warrior goes down twice while I only go down once in my video. Especially considering you run two guardians and a more defensive build on the warrior(?). It also appears as if my damage while downed is just slightly below your thief’s when you are up and fighting, so your comment about not dealing damage when dead will be disregarded. We also finished our run quicker than you, which would imply we have better DPS. Granted, you might not have been looking for the perfect team composition when recording it, but then again, neither did I when recording mine, as previously stated.
Whether or not you believe I need spy kits to survive that encounter I leave up to you, but given the first paragraph it does seem like I “survive” just as well with my signet build as your warrior does with his build. Spy kits also lets you hang around the spots where Acolytes spawn, which leads to faster kills than if you were to be frantically kiting the mobs around the room.
I am not personally offended by the fact that Kevin is bashing Signet Warriors, I’m just offended by the fact that he needs to direct his anger at the OP, just because he had signets equipped in a video he posted here. I don’t personally run signets all the time (check for example latest video I uploaded to my channel), but at least I can realize the value most of them have, something you seem to be unable of doing.
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I’m glad I could teach you how to play the game
. I’m also glad you managed to beat a casual run we did for the daily reset by 15 seconds 12 hours after me posting >.<, with a much better team composition, not to mention your oh-so-superior builds. And why are you talking about banners? The discussion was not about my team composition in runs, it was about what you assumed the OP’s team composition was, leading you to make statements that may not be relevant because of it.
I don’t know about you but I am not the one to enforce strict rules on builds and team composition (as evident by the two rangers), when I am just running casual runs with my guild and friends. And why do you even bring up the karma part, out of curiosity. Iirc you popped potions and food yourself on the 9min run. You earn 1800 Karma per run and a gazillion from the new daily / monthly (OP’s video very related). If I want to sit and chill for a couple of minutes instead of fighting I think I have the right to blow 1/6 of the Karma I can make in 7 minutes on that.
Oh and accusing me of thumbing your video down? What are you? 12?
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As someone who runs dungeons in their entirety almost everyday with friends and reaching for prestige – it’s very disheartening seeing farming guilds use exploits or skip half of a dungeon and be just as or more rewarded than my friends and I.
It also robs the prestige from gear. Having CoF gear means nothing to us thanks to the speedruns not too long ago and Arah gear doesn’t mean as much as it should thanks to the shard farming and players skipping half the content.
It’s a hard thing to manage and I really have no ideas on how to deal with it unless you linked rewards to the dungeon events and placed a DR on those instead of the run itself somehow. Putting rewards at the end encourages players to skip content and spreading it out allows players to farm easy bosses, reset, rinse/repeat.
I said this from the start and I say it again. Maxed out gear should be available to a cost of about 4-5 gold for an entire set + armor, and dungeon pieces should cost something like 1500 tokens, just like it was in GW1.
However, I don’t agree with your statement that skipping mobs should be less rewarding. I do believe that some changes need to be made so that it is harder to run past mobs with a disorganized group.
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Rangers will almost always fall short in terms of damage to guardians and warriors. Furthermore, current meta promotes stacking up and spamming boons / combo fields in almost all of the dungeons, something rangers often have trouble doing since they rely on positioning for their bleeding. While rangers are good for the poison on the last boss, having two of them is redundant and poison can be accomplished better through using consumables.
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I’m still occupied with trying out new strategies / builds / professions, so I guess you could say I’m playing for fun. And I AM really having fun.
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Edited my post with link. Doesn’t seem to be some form of speed clear though, no potions / food like you had, and a bad team composition.
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I’m fairly sure you didn’t, but then again I’m not a native speaker so I guess my reading comprehension isn’t top notch. Oh and by the way, found this video of a sub-par Signet Champion doing a faster CoF run than the one you recorded (and without the fotm team composition you seem to have used). Maybe you should go bash the comment section in furious anger.
Devonas Rest 4 lyfe
(edited by Gab Superstar.4059)
Do you want the OP to purposefully switch skills in the video to show you that he knows it’s possible? Also you started this whole thing with your first post. No facts to back your stuff up as usual, but I guess I don’t need to mention that anymore >.<
I sure hope he knows its possible. But based on what he said about how amazing Signet of Precision/precision the stat is in general, I have my doubts.
No facts to back it up? You seriously need to recheck your reading comprehension. Here is a summary, precision is a inferior stat to power because of the following:
1. Non-linear scaling
2. ICD on proc effects
3. Same stat weight, example: 5% crit vs 5% damage
4. Diminishing return/value highly dependent on critical damage
5. Fury devalues precision stat greatlyThis is why that signet is non-optimal.
So you basically discount the fact that Signet of Fury lets you use your burst skill while still being able to maintain the effects of your adrenal based traits? Contrary to what you seem to believe signets actually have an active effect as well (maybe you don’t use these a whole lot, I mean the game isn’t really challenging is it).
But yeah keep ignoring whatever you must to try and prove your points, it only makes you look more and more ignorant about the warrior (something you already admitted to being).
Devonas Rest 4 lyfe
So you’re basing your wall of garbage on a screenshot as if no one really changes their skills? Yeah? Then you’re really downplaying him because he took a signet instead of a banner? Really? And you don’t play a warrior? Wut? Then you’re gonna use 2200 deaths as an attack against him when in reality there are lots of good reasons for that number to be that high?
Take your tunnel vision play style and go work on those challenging story mode dungeons. Oh wait, those might be too hard. Better use your optimal build then.
That is a video, YouTube are known to host videos, not screenshots, sorry. I wouldn’t have written any of that if the op didn’t go on and make outlandish statements regarding how critical strikes is superior, and further brag about his superior high level group play that I can’t understand.
This game isn’t challenging. Please don’t act like it is.
Do you want the OP to purposefully switch skills in the video to show you that he knows it’s possible? Also you started this whole thing with your first post. No facts to back your stuff up as usual, but I guess I don’t need to mention that anymore >.<
By the way, why do you feel the need to bash on OP’s build when you say this game is not challenging? He can obviously complete his Arah runs just fine, so why do you have a problem with it?
Devonas Rest 4 lyfe
Okay. At least now you are being honest about the fact that you can’t provide anything to back up your statements. Thanks and good bye.
And it’s a good thing that you realize that utility skills are “highly encounter/situation dependent”, maybe then you will also realize that you don’t HAVE to run signets throughout an entire dungeon (you can actually change skills whenever you are out of combat). I mean, I don’t usually see Guardians run around with Wall of Reflection(?) when they are doing general PvE. In Ascalonian Catacombs I expect everyone to switch to it though.
Devonas Rest 4 lyfe
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Are you just trolling? You provide no arguments as to why “your” utility skills would be better, you ignore any facts that tells you otherwise, and you then proceed to blame others for not providing facts to support their own opinion. You can add fancy latin expressions to your post as much as you want, it still doesn’t change the fact that your posts contain no reasoning and no proof.
Well done I guess, you made me bite.
Devonas Rest 4 lyfe
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I’m just gonna disregard the bottom part of your post as it has nothing to do with the build itself. You are right now assuming that;
1) There is no other warrior in his group of players that may be using banners. Heavy armor professions have been proven again and again to be the absolute strongest. If you don’t know this I’m beginning to question how experienced you really are.
2) You are assuming that he is NOT the major damage dealer in his group. The rest of his group may contain characters built for support, in which case giving them power and condition damage would be less beneficial than pooling damage on himself. Which leads me to;
3) You are forgetting that your crit % have a very real effect on your damage as a warrior, since you gain might (also, Sigil of Strength), bleeding (which also increases damage by 10%) and vulnerability(optional) on critical hits. You are also assuming that his party can’t keep up boons. If they can (like any decent team with at least two guardians) you will want to get Empowered from your 10 points in tactics. If you want to specc even more points in tactics, well, you kinda lose out on the whole thing about being the DPS player (back to point 1) as you would lose out on extremely important traits such as Heightened Focus (which is why you have Signet of Fury in the first place, to swap to axes and eviscerate and still get damage / crit bonus), Slashing Power and Berserker’s Power.
You obviously don’t know much about warriors, and you even admit to not having played with them (/facepalm). Signet warriors work fine in general PvE, just because a reddit post two months ago told you otherwise doesn’t make it true.
Devonas Rest 4 lyfe
Maybe one day you will be able to…
Maybe one day I will be able to come up with a utility setup that offers nothing to my group, I need to get back to the drawing board on this.
Try not to downplay the builds of other because it doesn’t fit your “omgthisistheonlyproperwaytoplaythisclass” build and. If you had the privelege of playing with the people I do you’d understand why I have such a build and how it works better than any shout/flag/survialUtilities ablities builds you obviously believe warriors are meant to use. Also, even if the ablities in the video are equipped at that time doesn’t mean these signets/ultilites don’t change depending on specific situations requiring it. Your way may be the slow safe standard generic way of playing a warrior and works fine, but I rarely pug now, and with my groups and their abilites, there is no need to play so conservatively, and to go further “utility setup that offers nothing to my group” would be completely incorrect. My abilities and playstlyle offer whats needed to the group, they play accordingly, and I play as such in return to their abilities and playstyle. Not sure why you would think killing enemies faster and easier doesn’t benefit the group.
But to conclude, I(we) play and complete the hardest content GW2 has to offer and do it in record speeds so if proof is what you need there it is. If you still don’t understand that’s fine, your welcome to your own opinion, I would just have to say once you play on a high enough level you will come to understand.
Understanding may also help when you know my friends and I mindset is: “slow fights are boring/bad fights”
A fellow signet warrior who actually realizes how powerful this build can be if played well!
Devonas Rest 4 lyfe
Maybe one day you will be able to…
Maybe one day I will be able to come up with a utility setup that offers nothing to my group, I need to get back to the drawing board on this.
What could you possibly offer to your team that the other warrior / 3 guardians in your team can’t? Anyway, I’m not even sure about the validity of that statement, but you disregarded a well worded and reasonable post because you took offense to 1 build?
Devonas Rest 4 lyfe
You must be in a terrible group if you can’t keep a signet warrior up :P
No problem keeping them up or around. My back just hurts a bit after doing so.
Maybe one day you will be able to…
Devonas Rest 4 lyfe
Lackluster PVE content devoid of any sort of challenge or skill requirement- FIX PLS
Posted by: Gab Superstar.4059
I liked your post until;
“The bottom line is that even accounting for the fact that GW1 attracted the bottom of the barrel in MMO gamers towards the end of its run…”
Now I don’t know what to think. You throw a completely unnecessary insult at half the playerbase for no good reason at all. I think you are just angry and want to quit the game while pissing off as many players as you can in the process.
Pce brah
Devonas Rest 4 lyfe
I thought I clicked a leveling video when I saw that many signets.
You must be in a terrible group if you can’t keep a signet warrior up :P
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