Guild Wars 2

Rising Dusk.2408:

DR can be dodged quite easily now that we’ve fleshed out the mechanics pretty thoroughly without ANet’s help. Check out this thread. I haven’t hit DR (unless intentionally testing it) in a long time, and I still clear plenty of dungeons in 20 minutes or less. Remember to save your daily fractal runs for padding the time between your 4th run and 5th run!

That’s like saying you can dodge the daily reset by doing a path only once a day.

Everyone knows it but it doesn’t solve anything.

DR was added to prevent exploits in dungeons, something it has proven to prevent multiple times.

The collateral damage it does to regular farmers is bad but the DR system is set in stone and it won’t be changed unless something major happens in dungeon design.

You are right, discussing this subject has been done a million times before and you are just beating a dead horse.

There are much much worse exploits still left in the dungeon. There are about 10-15 entry points to getting outside of, and around the map allowing you to not kill any trash mobs but just walk around and kill the bosses in turn. This is true for every path.

Another dungeon with Risen? You might as well make a petition to have token rewards be reduced in half.

That’s how much support you are going to get.

Pinch.4273:

Power.2957:

Pinch.4273

You should really get them out of dungeons, they’re doing a lot of harm to the game.

Um, no.

You can avoid every non-combat event in the game with a spy kit. Do you think it is skillful and adds to the game by being allowed to get past content that your group might not be capable of doing?

Example 1: Snowblind fractal. The Svanir waves at the first big bonfire are actually quite dangerous when you get to high difficulties, but it doesn’t matter, because you can just spy kit and do it without killing anything.

Example 2: Dredge. The button cage event is also pretty difficult when you get higher up, but same thing, spy kit and don’t kill a thing.

Example 3: Stealth ressing. You are almost never threatened by a party wipe when you can just stealth res anyone that dies.

And who knows what else it will trivialize in the future.

Example 1; You can just corpse run, light the bonfire, die, repeat and accomplish the same thing can’t you?

Example 2; You can just die on the pressure plates and they will stay activated, can you not?

Example 3; The only thing this does is save time.

Spy Kits are great when you wish to save time. They do not let you do incredible amazing things that no one without spy kits would be able to do.

Robert Hrouda.1327:

Our QA group was able to do this, but I have received many reports about her healing while stealthed being way too high. I’ll ask our QA to give it another pass with different characters/builds to see how they fare.

I implore you, do not nerf her. She is completely aligned with how difficult explorable mode is supposed to be. She only takes 5-10min to kill with an organized group, which is what you should aim for when we are talking about encounters with complex mechanics. She is one of the best boss fights in the game and many people want to see her difficulty and complexity in other parts of the game as well. Nerfing her would not be a good decision, as the Dungeon Master achievement would lose perhaps its biggest individual challenge, reducing the prestige of it further.

People who can’t handle her are very much welcome to farm the other paths for the tokens. As far as achievements go, they should be reserved for those who actually have the patience and dedication to actually achieve said things.

Robert Hrouda.1327:

Path 3 torch event is pretty rough, even for our QA and people know how to do it. I have plans to soften it’s edges a bit (read: nerf), because I honestly can’t get a group to run the darn thing. It can often take long enough to do the first event that you could have done a whole other path if you are in a PuG.
My current plan is to drop it down to 3 torches, so two players who choose tanky/support roles won’t be so punished by the content, and then adjusting the way the spawns behave to provide more of a challenge. (Plans subject to change based on testing feedback)

So it is definite then, that explorable mode is supposed to be able to be handled with pugs. Why not go back to what you said before release and make the other two paths on par with path 3 in terms of difficulty?

People are asking for harder dungeons, not easier ones.

Well the large differences in difficulty of the dungeons cause a lot of the harm I think. Having several different dungeon design teams work individually was a poor choice. Sharing ideas and having a consistent difficulty could have been achieved if they didn’t choose this route.

Furthermore they need a lot more QA testing on their dungeons to prevent exploits. In Arah for example, there are a million ways of getting out of, and around the map. I think they need to utilize their community a bit more on this part too. Listen to what they say and have some dungeons be beta tested by actual players. I mean, on my first playthrough of the Grawl fractal I found a way of skipping the jumping puzzle within 2 min of entering the dungeon. Such obvious flaws should not make it into released dungeons.

NightyNight.1823:

Ohh what you’re opened to discuss now?I thought you’re done here.
All other factors such as lag ,after cast and team composition are atribuited to both classes so you don’t have to necesarely take them into consideration.
I’ve been going through all the dungeons glass cannon whit both Warrior and Thief , and I never had any issue surviving.That leaves you down to Damage.Thief damage is far superior to Warriors . It might not be double in practice like in theory whit the screen shot but its still bigger.Thief skills have no cast time and they are almost instant.Anyone who plays Thief and Warrior will tell you that Thief dps is bigger.Don’t get fooled by the bigger numbers.

The total lag and after cast of 1 skill is not equal to that of 5 skills, no.

NightyNight.1823:

Gab Superstar.4059:

NightyNight.1823:

The proof is to Thief doing more damage than Warrior.And I highly doubt you play a thief and even if you did you don’t know how to play it otherwise you wouldn’t have said that.

Oooooooooooooo-k I am done here.

If you cannot even understand the basics of what a proof is, there is no point in trying to discuss anything here.

I presented an argument , I presented evidence(screen shots) and can be easily validated.If you’re having troubles defining proof I sugest a dictionary.The only one having troubles of comprehension its , sadly ,you.Now please ,you’re welcome to get lost.

But you yourself said that big numbers, which is the only thing you are presenting, does not mean high DPS, right? Furthermore your maths are off because you are not taking into account a lot of factors. For example you are trying to argue that using 5 skills would take the same amount of time to use as 1x 100b just because the total cast time is equal. This is not true because of factors such as lag and after casting. You are not taking into account the amount of time you are able to spam your abilities due to your severely lowered health pool, you are not taking into account the conditions and team buffs of a warrior.

Only through uploading a video of yourself pushing out your max DPS can we compare it to that of a warrior.

NightyNight.1823:

The proof is to Thief doing more damage than Warrior.And I highly doubt you play a thief and even if you did you don’t know how to play it otherwise you wouldn’t have said that.

Oooooooooooooo-k I am done here.

If you cannot even understand the basics of what a proof is, there is no point in trying to discuss anything here.

Afaik it was patched now.

It was reported a total of 2 times in bug reports section of the forum, 2 times through emails, and 2 times through in-game bug reports within a week of finding it (2 months ago).

Arena Net didn’t give a crap about it back then so we just gave up in trying to report it.

NightyNight.1823:

Gab Superstar.4059:

NightyNight.1823:

XGhoul.7426:

NightyNight.1823:

XGhoul.7426:

NightyNight.1823:

XGhoul.7426:

Strifey.7215:

Never met a thf that brings more to the grp for dps then warrior. Fury, might, and banner from warrior + heavy armor and naturally high health is way better for speed running most things. And no way shortbow is high dps.

+1.
I’ve almost given up bringing ANY theifs because they play like their profession is “Ranger” and spam on short bow from a distance 24/7

Did you even read the previous posts?10k Cluster bombs and 62k melee damage in 3 seconds? Wow you people are so ignorant.

I never edited my post which was in relation to Fractals, if you want me to eat my own words show me some 30+ fractals with theifs dealing “insane” damage as you claim (then it comes down to “does every theif run the same build?” most that I have played with have been next to useless so I don’t even bother after giving pugs a 1 month chance*)

We’re talking about damage potential so if Thief does bigger dammage than other classes outside fractals ,logicaly ,it will do bigger damage inside fractals aswell.Now choke on your words.
And don’t say Thief is bad because people are bad at it , thats not even an argument.

A theif does more damage than ANY other class because it is meant for a burst dps, (which is not sustainable over long periods of time) now in relation to Fractals again, damage is only 1 criteria for being successful, and support comes into play. Support wise, most theif’s have nothing to bring besides stealth (as far as my knowledge goes, welcome to be proven wrong) this is why although they provide the better damage, party wise they are not viable for a team build meant to support each other (shout warriors/ boon guardians/ elementalist heals/ etc.) and it goes back again to why I don’t bring them to my parties.

Now go and do your homework , I’m not here to teach you about the Thief proffesion.Don’t discriminate if you have no idea what you’re talking about.The only thing that I’m going to let you know is that , it is not a burst.That 62k is sustainable damage every 3-4 seconds .

- Go into a level 80 dungeon.
- Find a boss that does very little to you that would interrupt your DPS.
- Wail on him as much as you can.
- Record and upload here.

Do this and we can judge how good your DPS is. I’m not gonna say you are bullkittenting but from my experience there is no way in kittenland a thief would do more DPS than a warrior, but then again you might be sitting on a super secret build with monstrous DPS that has passed the community by entirely. If you do please share it because I would love to be able to play more professions in dungeons.

Go play thief yourself and tell me otherwise.And read the stupid previous posts.Proof is there.When you’ll play both Warrior and Thief like me then you’ll come and say the same thing.

I read every post, and you have provided no proof at all as to why thieves are better than warriors. Yep, I do play thief. And I am not saying the same thing as you.

Please get off whatever thief high you are riding and either a) accept the fact that warriors are superior, or b) provide us with proof that points to the opposite.

NightyNight.1823:

XGhoul.7426:

NightyNight.1823:

XGhoul.7426:

NightyNight.1823:

XGhoul.7426:

Strifey.7215:

Never met a thf that brings more to the grp for dps then warrior. Fury, might, and banner from warrior + heavy armor and naturally high health is way better for speed running most things. And no way shortbow is high dps.

+1.
I’ve almost given up bringing ANY theifs because they play like their profession is “Ranger” and spam on short bow from a distance 24/7

Did you even read the previous posts?10k Cluster bombs and 62k melee damage in 3 seconds? Wow you people are so ignorant.

I never edited my post which was in relation to Fractals, if you want me to eat my own words show me some 30+ fractals with theifs dealing “insane” damage as you claim (then it comes down to “does every theif run the same build?” most that I have played with have been next to useless so I don’t even bother after giving pugs a 1 month chance*)

We’re talking about damage potential so if Thief does bigger dammage than other classes outside fractals ,logicaly ,it will do bigger damage inside fractals aswell.Now choke on your words.
And don’t say Thief is bad because people are bad at it , thats not even an argument.

A theif does more damage than ANY other class because it is meant for a burst dps, (which is not sustainable over long periods of time) now in relation to Fractals again, damage is only 1 criteria for being successful, and support comes into play. Support wise, most theif’s have nothing to bring besides stealth (as far as my knowledge goes, welcome to be proven wrong) this is why although they provide the better damage, party wise they are not viable for a team build meant to support each other (shout warriors/ boon guardians/ elementalist heals/ etc.) and it goes back again to why I don’t bring them to my parties.

Now go and do your homework , I’m not here to teach you about the Thief proffesion.Don’t discriminate if you have no idea what you’re talking about.The only thing that I’m going to let you know is that , it is not a burst.That 62k is sustainable damage every 3-4 seconds .

- Go into a level 80 dungeon.
- Find a boss that does very little to you that would interrupt your DPS.
- Wail on him as much as you can.
- Record and upload here.

Do this and we can judge how good your DPS is. I’m not gonna say you are bullkittenting but from my experience there is no way in kittenland a thief would do more DPS than a warrior, but then again you might be sitting on a super secret build with monstrous DPS that has passed the community by entirely. If you do please share it because I would love to be able to play more professions in dungeons.

They can’t give good rewards for challenging content because there is no challenging content in the game.

If only they would introduce a hard mode, where if you wipe you are done. No way- or checkpoints, no bullkitten. Put small rewards from killing trash but focus heavily on the end chest. Oh wait that sounds like UW from GW1. Too bad they couldn’t realize that what they had in GW1 in terms of dungeons worked perfectly.

Robert Hrouda.1327:

Kain Francois.4328:

However, I do think people will continue if only for the dungeon tokens.

It’s possible. We’re watching metrics on it. I made the judgement call to only turn off the loot for 1 boss. If it is still being abused, I can make more judgement calls.

Hello Robert.

If people would have repeated the entire dungeon instead of just the first boss fight, and received the same amount of gold per hour, would you also have nerfed it?

karma.8763:

tkalamba.2541:

They already announced a scavenger hunt method, not sure what it will be, but they said they would provide an alternative to just farming for them.

Expect to have to go to many places around Tyria and start collecting things from Champion mobs.

This, THIS will be nice, and exciting, if they implement this, i will be excited.

I wouldn’t get too excited. They are obviously going to add artificial barriers to prolong this scavenger hunt to perhaps a 2-3 month venture (if you work on it every day).

Farming Netherwing reputation in WoW would be a close example.

I’m not sure it’s because they fail to provide it (they certainly didn’t in GW1, but then again I think developers changed a lot since), or if it’s because they choose not to bother with an end-game since they don’t make any money from it.

Either way, nope, there is not a whole lot to do at 80. Just play the game for weekend content patches, they are usually quite well made content-wise, they just need to get their kitten together in terms of servers and bugs.

Tolmos.8395:

“Our games aren’t about preparing to have fun, or about grinding for a future fun reward. Our games are designed to be fun from moment to moment.”

If that was true they would have added an LFD tool so that we could go out into the world and actually play the game while looking for dungeon groups instead of standing around in LA/other towns for an hour beforehand screaming “LFG LFG LFG” or “LFM LFM LFM”

You can’t pug explorable dungeons in this game. All explorable dungeons must be done with experienced, dedicated and coordinated groups of people, and all of them take a substantial amount of time as well. This means there is no need for a LFG system in the first place.

Actually those 80’s ARE probably carrying your group.

Do another dungeon in between doing the paths on different alts.

“E9:There are no ways to repair inside of fractals aside from cash shop items, providing an inherent advantage to people who pay for advantages. Can this be fixed?

Well it certainly wasn’t designed to be a monetization resource, however i do see your point. We wanted to get rid of rez rushing and focus more on parties working together to not die and die less (-: We will continue to monitor the need for repair in the fractals and go from there.

Sorry if i am not giving more details here but this is something i would like to get metrics on.

Chris"

Who are you trying to fool here? THE MOMENT I saw the article about having a hub between 3 fractals where you could repair and sell items, the first thing that crossed my mind was that repair canisters were going to play a major role here.

You developed this content for 3 months, and you are telling me that the though NEVER CROSSED YOUR MIND?

What you are doing here is basically lying in the face of your players, and unfortunately for you it’s extraordinarily telling this time around.

Just wow…

Explorable mode dungeons are extremely hard, and take considerable amounts of time and player skill to finish. You can’t really pug them, hence why a LFG tool is redudant and won’t be implemented.

Kevin.2176:

applekwisp.2139:

it’s absolutely ridiculous that progression is based on rng. on top of this the rng could give you an item you dont even want stat wise and then the item is account bound on top of it. the only alternative is to grind out 250 T6 materials to craft a piece yourself.

why is the solution to everything in this game RNG or gambling or straight up luck?

Loot based on RNG is dumb indeed, but is your progression really halted because you lack agony resist?

Halted? No.

Slowed down? Yes.

Eventually it will be halted of course.

slazzy.7309:

You can submit that, I don’t know detail about the mechanics. But I do know one thing. Many of you have misled players about the effect of Agony on the game. Now we find progression existed in GW1, at whatever the level, and yet this somehow does not apply. Even when a dev states Lightbringer was just another method players had to filter out those they want to play with. This is exactly the same thing, and you all know it is.

Hey, I could care less if none of you agree or see the point. But now I know from my own research that your complaints are baseless, and this game with thrive. I hope others aren’t affected by the negativity we’ve seen the last several days. That’s my point.

Lightbringer title is comparable to running FotM up to level 10 (when agony hits) and getting a ring that has the same stats as exotic rings with an infusion slot that makes FotM easier, but not by such a big margin that it is required.

In reality, you are not even guaranteed to get the ring, you are gonna have an extremely hard time progressing past level 20 if you don’t, and it has better stats than any other ring in the game.

fortytwo.3485:

Gab Superstar.4059:

The back braces you buy with tokens are called “Prototype Fractal Capacitator.”

Atm the Capacitor the vendor sells for 1350 tokens are just exotic without a infusion slot.

And fractals are rewarding but they don’t generate anywhere near the amt of gold that i need to buy 250 T6 mats.

Im not asking for handout, for exp dungeons , you buy everything with tokens except trinkets. And just doing dungeons was enough. Now you have to supplement it with farming mobs in L80 zones for these mats.

All im asking is make ascended items drop from higher lvl fractals or have them available for 2000 tokens or something.

You didn’t read my full post.

The back braces you buy with tokens are called “Prototype Fractal Capacitator.” If you look at GW2DB, there are many ascendant back braces called simply “Fractal Capacitator”, which would imply you could improve the prototypes into the full thing.

If not it’s such a blatant P2W I’m just gonna jump ship…

Azelroth.6801:

Asagi.1405:

Yes.

Can you please clarify what you mean? Because what my theory is; if you get your daily bonus and try for the level 10-11 ascended ring in the same day you won’t get it (due to the glitch/bug)

Did tier 10 immediately after reset today. Got the bonus chest and a bag of gold (again >.<)

It happens if you are still in there when the thing finishes. Easiest way to get around it is to have everyone in your group carry a few Telportation Guns.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

I assume the ring is an rng drop. The only thing guaranteed out of the chest is supposed to be the fractal relics. Everything other then that is a random roll that gives increasing chance for better items as you get to higher levels.

You can also repeat levels as often as you like. So you can go back and do level 10 over and over until the ring drops for you. This kind of loot system is pretty common in MMO’s.

Then why has a dev stated that it’s a bug that will be patched?

It’s great to hear that you play the game as you want.

Now please let me do that as well.

gw2lfg.com
15 char

Pinch.4273:

It’s not a bug. The daily dungeon reward has a chance at giving you a ring. At difficulty 20+, you can get a ring with an infusion slot. There are probably even more reliable ways to get them at higher difficulties, but I don’t know because I’m only just past 20.

No.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Fractal-bonus-item/first#post765390

Well at least you can still hope for one when you do it, I know I’m not gonna get one even if I do T10, if I even get one ever.

Whole team got ring. I got a bag of gold.

I love FotM but this is just frustrating, since I’m practically blocked from progressing any further until I get lucky and get a ring on my daily…

Did 6 dungeons in the past hour, and it seems to be one per boss that you can normally loot.

Because Arena Net still wants to hold on to the illusion that dungeons are not meant for pugs.

Midnight GMT+0

15char

I would recommend a 20/25/0/10/15 build instead.

EDIT: http://www.gw2db.com/skills/calc/warrior#7|0|11|65|915|3903|246|20|836|1499|0|25|1975|1846|0|0|0|0|0|10|1057|0|0|15|1109|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|

That website is very old. The traits are outdated.

Are you going to play PvP or PvE?

I’m more worried about the fact that the Mystic Forge will be required to get these “fine” infusions.

As we all know the Mystic Forge is right now just a massive cash dump, with items to make it more convenient in the cash shop.

Aireroth.7596:

Gab Superstar.4059:

I am 99% sure you cannot duo AC path 1 without using any exploits.

Psybunny.8906:

Oh hi there, my thread from 19 days ago.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/AC-Exp-path-1-duo/first#post453317

Clean run, nothing skipped, nothing exploited. No cave troll vs. Kholer.

Typo. Meant solo. Sorry.

Do another dungeon in between doing them on different characters.

Fay.2735:

Gab Superstar.4059:

If it irritates you, then leave the group. If it irritates a majority of the group, kick the players who wish to skip. It has been repeated so many times in this forum: Don’t tell people how they are supposed to enjoy the game. Fun is subjective.

Again, I will bring up the SC argument. In GW1, why did people dump fortunes in trying to go from a 15 minute UW to a 14 minute? A 18min DoA to a 17min? Because they had fun doing so!

It’s not pure laziness or lack of skill. It’s how people enjoy doing dungeons. Stop telling people otherwise.

I never played Guild Wars 1 (yet) so I don’t know the things you are referring to. Sure if you want to be the fastest at a dungeon and find that fun I can semi understand the challenge in that but I don’t know I just like spending time with friends, relaxing our way through a dungeon, messing about, having a laugh. Making fun of Kholer’s love for ropes

I guess what I’m saying is that in any group I’ve been in that wanted to speed through dungeons there was practically zero communication and to me it was boring.

Plus I feel if you want to do a dungeon fastest you should aim at doing all the content within the dungeon you were intended to do in the fastest time. Skipping it IMO is cheating that race type of challenge.

Devs have stated that skipping Kohler is an intented strategy, and the fact that you like to relax and mess around in dungeons, doesn’t mean that I can’t like the opposite.

Fay.2735:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Wow, the OP is obviously just a troll and has abandoned the thread since long.

- Kohler is not hard and never was.
- Groups dont skip him because he is hard (see point 1).
- Groups skip him because he gives kitten rewards.

Can we just let this thread die please?

I agree with the OP in that it irritates me when people want to skip Kholer, not because he’s hard yes or no but because hes one of the more fun bosses in the game. We always crack jokes about him.

- He was hard when we first went in 2 months ago and wiped several times trying to figure out the tactics and then proceeded to cower behind pillars to avoid his ability till we started to figure out we could dodge it and use feedback. People now get the tactics handed to them by those who’ve done them before. This is the same with all fights, it’s easy when you know how (well for most encounters anyway).

That’s why I would recommend to anyone new to dungeons to run them with others who are new to fully appreciate the effort that went into devising tactics when people like me and my party first started out.

- It is pure laziness and in some cases lack of skill, I had a few people wanting to skip and when we refused they got pulled into Kholer several times. That said though it’s not necessarily the case that there is a lack of skill but rather a lack of care about the dungeon content and only care about the reward at the end.

- This is not entirely true, I got a jug of karma out of his chest a week ago + You have the convenient waypoint there that helps you get about the dungeon much more efficiently.

I wish people would stop skipping content, I can sympathise with a couple of groups of non-boss mobs, but bosses? really? Why on earth are you even doing dungeons if you don’t enjoy the content if you skip bosses. Especially an awesome boss fight like Kholer, he’s one of the better ones.

If it irritates you, then leave the group. If it irritates a majority of the group, kick the players who wish to skip. It has been repeated so many times in this forum: Don’t tell people how they are supposed to enjoy the game. Fun is subjective.

Again, I will bring up the SC argument. In GW1, why did people dump fortunes in trying to go from a 15 minute UW to a 14 minute? A 18min DoA to a 17min? Because they had fun doing so!

It’s not pure laziness or lack of skill. It’s how people enjoy doing dungeons. Stop telling people otherwise.

Dolan.3071:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Wow, the OP is obviously just a troll and has abandoned the thread since long.

- Kohler is not hard and never was.
- Groups dont skip him because he is hard (see point 1).
- Groups skip him because he gives kitten rewards.

Can we just let this thread die please?

I’m glad your opinion on skipping Kholer is shared across every Guild Wars player ever. Thanks for clearing that up. So how is it that a group of lvl 80’s who always skip him ended up wiped? Please enlighten me oh wise one.

I’m glad your experience on killing Kohler is shared across every Guild Wars player ever. Thanks for clearing that up. So how is it that a group of lvl 80’s who always skip him is representative for the entire game. Please enlighten me oh wise one.

Not a whine-about-ascended-armor thread, thank you.

Now, let’s discuss what new additions we can expect to see in the BLTC with the patch.

- Apart from the obvious increase in sales of transmutation stones, what else can we expect from the BLTC to incentivize more gem sales? Will infusion-related items be available from the BLTC? Will items related to Ascended Armor be available through BLTC?

“…Omni Infusions of Fine rarity from new Mystic Forge recipes…”

- In Lindsey’s blog post she talks about the Mystic Forge being a big part of infusion. Will this just amount to a massive money dump like what the Mystic Forge is now? Will we have to spend gold and skill points to attain these recipes in the first place? Will BLTC items like the Mystic Forge stone be used in these “Fine” infusions, where people who are not keen on spending gems are left with worse alternatives?

- She also states that the Backpack will solely be available through the Mystic Forge. Will these backpacks be a ~100g gold sink like most other Mystic Forge items?

Personally, I feel that what little info we have been given seems to indicate steps toward a gem store that becomes less and less optional for players who want to maximize their performance. Even if these items can be acquired through the dungeon, insanely low drop rates coupled with a cheap alternative in the cash shop is a classic way to handle any criticism about P2W.

Wow, the OP is obviously just a troll and has abandoned the thread since long.

- Kohler is not hard and never was.
- Groups dont skip him because he is hard (see point 1).
- Groups skip him because he gives kitten rewards.

Can we just let this thread die please?

I think it’s a good thing because anyone who starts playing 3 months from now will have a ton of infused gear to allow him or her into all the groups that form for Fractals of the Mists.

Basically what Arena Net is doing is opening up all the content to every player, new or old!

Convinced many of my friends in University to try this game out on the premises that it wasn’t a gear grind that they had to devote 20 hours a week to. Well GG ArenaNet.

And to everyone saying hardcore PvE players want this: No! The entire GW1 hardcore PvE community has very good ties to each other in GW2 as well, and NO ONE I have spoken to is excited about this…

We wanted more skins that are awarded for doing dungeons (as opposed to shelling out money), not this kitten gear progression.