Guild Wars 2

Domino.1359:

Lol, go home OP. L2P.

Oh really. So Hail Mary needs to L2P vs Dankening’s LB ranger?

So…this is like WvW but scaled down for 5v5.

coglin.1867:

I am curious, if conditions are so strong, why do you see no actual conditions builds on high end teams?

Doesn’t Noose(sp?) in Abjured run a condi build?

Cynz.9437:

yeah dat DCs, EU lag, crashes, bugs…. so skill~

ESPARTS guize

You forgot ragequit!

Tao.5096:

Gabriell.4856:

This right here is the most OP 1 button skill ever

Thief’s steal.
MetaBuild 6/0/2/0/6
-Damage, heal yourself, apply poison, apply weakness, recharge utility, regain initiative, daze, steal boons, give stolen boons to allies, give you swiftness, give you might, give you fury, give you vigor

All that for just 1 press of a button. I don’t think anyone can beat that.

and downed after 3x auto attack from majority of other classes.
10/10 toopnerfnoworquitrofl

Oh my god, I didn’t know this was the secret to beating thieves. All I have to do is auto attack them 3 times and I win! Thank you so much for this tip. If I ever fight abjured (sp?) it will be 5vs4 in our favor because I can take out Magic instantly. My team is going to be the king of e-sport!

JoshuaRAWR.4653:

Just curious as to what the community considers to be broken builds.

I don’t mean broken as in not viable, or unplayable, i mean builds that simply have too much damage output for how much effort is invested.

For example, Eviscerate doing 9k+ Damage with one button press, is this balanced? As a medi guardian i have no problems with axe using warriors, it’s easy to tell when the evis is coming, thus making it easy to avoid, and i have a plethora of blocks to also deal with it should i have no evades, If i’m caught without either blocks or evades, then that’s my own fault.

But I’ve seen a lot of complaints on the forums about LB Power rangers, Celestial Engineers & Ele’s, the Celestial warrior build (to an extent, though this isn’t talked about as much i feel).

So, what class is genuinely broken and needs a look at?

Personally i feel shatter mesmers have way too much going on for their shatters, specifically when in the meta shatter spec.
F3 Confuses, Dazes, Grants might, applies 5 stacks of vuln (per shatter), as well as doing pretty high damage, I think it’s a bit too much, but what do the rest of you think?

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Edit: I am specifically asking about classes that can be too effective for minimal effort, such as 1 or 2 button presses, ranger lb #2, necro elite #1 in a power build etc, these sorts of things.

I said Mesmer f3 because while it involves setting up, it is still only 1 button press and i (This is my opinion, don’t roast me on this) feel it does too much for 1 press.

Ok, you are asking for a skill that is too OP for just 1 button press?

This right here is the most OP 1 button skill ever

Thief’s steal.
MetaBuild 6/0/2/0/6
-Damage, heal yourself, apply poison, apply weakness, recharge utility, regain initiative, daze, steal boons, give stolen boons to allies, give you swiftness, give you might, give you fury, give you vigor

All that for just 1 press of a button. I don’t think anyone can beat that.

And if that wasn’t OP enough for you, you can take it to next level of cheese by pressing it again. You can get one of the following:
-Additional steath plus aoe blind
-Damage plus long duration chill
-Damage plus long duration daze
-Damage plus condition aoe ethereal field
-AOE damage plus reflect
-AOE long duration fear thats better than the necro!
-AOE healing and cleanse and you don’t even have to stand in it to get the pulsing regen
-and best of all; 10 secs of protection, regen, vigor, might, fury, swiftness, and aegis

Lol

Random Weird Guy.3528:

Ouroboros.5076:

Smart dudes here saying “just kill the turrets”. Some turrets have 30k HP, heal, and can’t be crit, pushback when they die. Some classes just can’t kill those turrets, and while the engy hides in it, can’t kill him either.

I don’t say it’s OP, the problem is that the counter to engy turrets is pure teamplay : you just need to leave the point. I don’t think that it’s healthy for the game to have such a heavy influence on a match in the hands on a -let’s face it- completely kittened build.

30k hp, what on earth? The only turret worth killing is the rocket turret and that has 7k hp. Even thumper doesn’t have anything near 30k hp.

The effective hp of the rocket turret with the metal plating trait is 10k Hp. The thumper is about 15k+ hp with the trait. No where close to 30k hp but a lot tougher than mesmer illusions…

So we have pvp scrubs vs pve scrubs kittening back and forth. Why not settle in the middle and split the ability between pve and pvp??

Justin ODell.9517:

Gabriell.4856:

2015-01-30 19:08:08.000 Ranked 1112 5 10.7800 Defeat 132 500 -226.0 8.0

10.7% chance of winning…wtf? Why even start the match.

These sort of matches happen most often due to fail-safes we have in place to keep queue times low. I would guess the premade team had to wait around 8 minutes to get that match, and they didn’t like it either.

I’ll continue to work to make these sort of matches happen less often. I don’t think we’ll find a comprehensive fix without sacrificing queue times though.

Anyway to allow us to know our chance of winning before the match starts?

I would like to quit while I’m behind and get it over with as quickly as possible.

Justin ODell.9517:

holodoc.5748:

Justin ODell.9517:

GeneralJimmy.2186:

Every single game is horrible
Keep getting unfairgames vs 3/5 man

I’m not 100% sure what you’re referencing here. Are you being stacked against pre-mades, or are people on your team leaving?

Looked up your game history for the last week and you’ve had 5 out of 67 games that had the pre-mades stacked against you.

2015-01-24 20:20:50.000 Ranked 212 5 46.0900 Victory 500 371 39.0 -4.0
2015-01-24 23:14:16.000 Ranked 11111 41 54.0600 Victory 500 437 73.0 13.0
2015-01-29 16:31:56.000 Ranked 11111 311 50.3100 Desertion 475 500 41.0 0.0
2015-01-29 18:26:21.000 Ranked 11111 5 34.6900 Defeat 228 502 -25.0 7.0
2015-01-30 19:08:08.000 Ranked 1112 5 10.7800 Defeat 132 500 -226.0 8.0

The last two are the only ones that stand out as particularly bad, but could be explained by your deviation still settling (hopefully, will need to dig deeper).

Excuse me but how exactly can you distinguish between PUGs and premades based only on logs and game statistics?

Sorry, I forgot to include the headers.
Date, Time, Arena, Team Parties, Enemy Parties, Odds of Victory, Result, Team Score, Enemy Score, Rating Diff, Rank Diff

212 vs 5 = 2 parties of 2 + 1 solo vs a party of 5
11111 vs 41 = 5 solos vs a party of 4 + 1 solo
etc..

2015-01-30 19:08:08.000 Ranked 1112 5 10.7800 Defeat 132 500 -226.0 8.0

10.7% chance of winning…wtf? Why even start the match.

Its already in the game. In the new living story, you can become a thief and get a skill called “reverse blossom” which evades and reflect projectile.

Morwath.9817:

Gabriell.4856:

insanemaniac.2456:

Laraley.7695:

uberkingkong.8041:

Premades have nothing to do with winning or losing.

Shows you have no clue what you’re talking about.

no it doesnt, premades can suck just as much as anyone else

I’m going to agree with Laraley…

One advantage is being able to determine your comp is a huge advantage over pugs…

Pugs can swap chars at beginning of the match currently without any punishment.

Because we all have 8 characters right?

insanemaniac.2456:

Laraley.7695:

uberkingkong.8041:

Premades have nothing to do with winning or losing.

Shows you have no clue what you’re talking about.

no it doesnt, premades can suck just as much as anyone else

I’m going to agree with Laraley…

One advantage is being able to determine your comp is a huge advantage over pugs…

What about limiting team to one each type of amulet? You can have two ele or engi but only one of them can use cele – the other would have to use something else. Wouldn’t this prevent class and amulet stacking?

Sorry if my suggestion sounds stupid, I’m new to spvp :P.

We currently cannot use LB, SB, Hammer, Dagger, Shield and Warhorn. God, I hope it’s not Warhorn…

MarkPhilips.5169:

Sagat.3285:

MarkPhilips.5169:

Cynz.9437:

flying engi with flying turret… i don’t even know what to say :|

Ahah, i thought the same thing…i mean, engi hammer is really cool but flying turrets….i hope it won’t be a flying turrets engi version dominated by IA.

Not sure if the specialisations are usable in pvp and class mechanic,utilities,heal change. Not confirmed how many and what type of spec they are either and please keep in mind the every 2 months balance patches and TDM queue.

It depends on HoT will be available for everyone or only if you buy HoT.

I see 3 scenarios:

1)In SpVp, new specs, profs are available to everyone. You don’t need to buy HoT. Conquest and Stronghold will have new specs and classes.

3) You can play Stronghold only if you buy HoT. New specs and profs only available in Stronghold but not in conquest.

3) New specs and profs only in PVE and not in spvp.

Highly doubt they are going to give spvp players free access to the new class while making other people pay for it.

Thaddeus.4891:

You surely won’t gonna do the same amount of damage, but ya you will gain survivability.

You have good trait choice, but they don’t fit together well. You gonna have the survivability and self-sustain to fight against multiple target in the same time, but you won’t have enough burst to kill any of them fast enough to take the advantage.

You have a good steal, but again don’t have the burst to follow that up.

Overall you’ll be annoying, hard to kill, but won’t be able to complete the main job of a thief which is to finish ppl off. Trickery and Shadow art are support line for the thief in PvP, you should have both at the same time since you really need either Deathly Arts of Critical strike to be able to burst someone down.

I don’t understand why a 6/0/2/0/6 would have more burst than the build I posted. 200 more power can be obtained from might stacking when entering stealth. 4-6 stack is easy to come by with D/P. I can see the 10% less damage from losing out on exposed weakness. I can understand 5/6/0/0/3 or 2/6/0/0/6 having more burst but not 6/0/2/0/6.

What are your thoughts on using this D/P or S/D build for sPvP? http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZAQRAoa8Yl0Mp0pFOx7J8PNBNhwdtVz8O83yaFA-TJBFwACOJA12foaZAAPBAA

Is it comparable to the 6/0/2/0/6 build other than the obvious Panic Strike?

Basically, I want to do the same amout of damage but double the survivability.

Thanks for the clarification – especially the explanation regarding crit damage.

imaclown.1628:

I’m not saying I would hate it if they gave all amulets the same points. But hard troll.

Troll? I’m mostly play FOTM (almost got all of the fractal skins oh yeah!) and WvW. Check my post history if you don’t believe me but whatever.

I’m fairly new to Spvp and I reviewed the information on gw2 wiki so I can get a better understanding of how Spvp works. However, I encountered conflicting information and would like someone to clarify for me.

It states "Characters used in structured PvP gain access to a separate PvP Build. This mechanic allows players to be on an equal playing field with the same attributes, skills, traits, and equipment options as other players. Players can change the character’s build through the PvP Build panel. "

I noticed that the celestrial amulet has 3066 total attributes. Other amulets have 2244, 2232, 2364, etc.

Is the information regarding spvp outdated? How come celestrial has a lot more stats than the others. How come Valkyrie has more attributes then Berserker? Shouldn’t they all be the same?

If I wanted to go crit damage, why would I pick Berserker amulet over celestrial when they offer the same crit damage attributes?

Thanks in advance for your answers.

Let’s say I’m fighting a thief and I have 3 clones out all of which are blind. I am also blind. What happens when I shatter?
1; all clone failed to hit target because they are blind, or
2; the first one miss because I’m blind but the second and third clone hit.

Which one is the correct answer? Thanks.

I would imagine number 2 since the clones are doing the effect not the mesmer itself. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

Hey jkels,

1) As always, awesome video. Keep em coming.
2) Ingnore haters that suggest your enemies “could be” wearing “rares”. The only thing that matters is what you are wearing.
3) My guess about you using Scholar runes were right after all ^_~
4) To all those who want to try this build – you have to main an ele to make it work for you (or know how to execute ALL known ele combos instantly in the middle of the battle).

Questions:
1) Did you think about how ferocity change would affect your build? IMO the 40% damage modifier will still be there so I think it will remain almost the same. Your thoughts?
2) Are you going to change any sigils after the 4/15 patch?
3) Do you think Fiery Greatsword rush+LF nerf will be the same for Burning speed+LF? If so, would your build loose its effectiveness in burst department?

Hey Karsai!

First of all, thank you for making s/f video and sharing it on this forum. I was really looking forward to someone actually go “against the tide” and post a wvw roaming video with that weapon combo. I myself play only an ele and IMO s/f is unfairly underestimated by most ele players. So I urge you to make more awesome and maybe not so awesome but brave(!) videos with s/f and post them here so that people can actually remember that focus is still alive and very (!) effective against some classes in wvw.

Hey Higgins,

Thanks for showing off your condi build, this is the first time I actually see someone utilizing “Written in Stone”. Never thought it can be used in a condi build.

I have a question, I see no stun breakers in your build. How do you survive without at least 1 stun break, for when you are ambushed by a thief or anyone who uses stun as an opener?

jkels.6398:

Haha you guys have the traits cracked! I’m sure everyone can guess what traits to use but I will say this build really shines against the condi meta in both WvW roaming and in SPVP. So use it wisely and you are a condi user’s worst nightmare. Make sure to stay aggressive and use that damage it is overwhelming to most and please, Eles if you see me in WvW don’t blow me up with my build k thx.

I was thinking of utilizing Diamond Skin in a power/burst set up and your videos show that it’s possible with certain amount of skill and experience.

As far as traits go I can assume the following:
15 Air: Zephyr’s Boon
30 Earth: Stone Splinters (?), Rock Solid, Diamond Skin
15 Water: Vital Striking (?)
10 Arcana: Renewing Stamina

By the way traits are only half of the build, what interest me most is your gear/weapon stats, runes, sigils, and food.

Right now I can think of something like this
Sigils: 2 sigils of force (with Stone splinters this gives almost permanent 20% damage increase)
Runes: ___________(would very much like you to fill the gap here, thanks ^^)
Armor/weapon stats: full berserker(?), half berserker-half cavalier (?)
Food: 100 power 10% crit damage (?)

Hey guys!

I’ve sent you all an in-game mail so we can get together for a run.

Hey Talindra,

I’ll send you an in-game email. Looking forward to meeting you in Fractals.

Hey guys,

My main (and only character) is elementalist. I enjoy the class and currently in the process of farming a certain Fractal weapon skin.

My personal reward level is 51 and I run lv. 38/48 every day. I can’t complain about pugs too much, because most people I’ve met are all pros who know the dungeon and their characters. But it would be more productive and enjoyable if I found a constant group.

If anyone is interested send me a personal message or reply in this thread.

ImProVocateur.5189:

Gabrielle,
Thank you for the videos.!Do not feel personally effected by critiques. Any experienced player can see the lack of damage and conditions on the first video. The thieves were obviously very up-leveled, or noob, or something.

All,
Thank you for pushing this thread along. Must see more vids.
NOTE: Vids should be new, since there are many old vids that do not reflect the accumulated nerfs and buffs to classes. Please have the courage to show the best and the worst, but mainly we want to see the best. MORE VIDS!

ImProVocateur,

I don’t feel personally affected, so don’t worry about me. Unfortunately, for most players who play elementalist (yourself included), it’s easier to assume that “thiefs were noob, or something”, than admit that there are players out there who know how to make the right build and know how to play the class. And the videos I linked are 3 weeks old – not new enough for you?

I’m not gonna argue with you on any of the points in your videos, cause you’ll never be able to play elementalist no matter what buffs he gets in the future, cause your mind is set to fail and whine from the start. Good luck playing other “mindless button smashing” classes.

silvermember.8941:

Gabriell.4856:

Knote.2904:

Gabriell.4856:

Hi,

The first video wasn’t even funny. My advice? Don’t play ele, it’s not your cup of tea. Some people just don’t have skills to handle the class.

Watch how this guy beat a thief with his ele and learn a thing or two. The video’s not mine. It’s a guy from NA server.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0iPjSQJvPM

Another guy that missed the point, watch both videos.

Also, keep in mind that guy has a very specific build that’s basically half tank half dmg build, AND he has to use the hp buffs gained in WvW just to have 14-15k health to even survive.

And he goes toe to toe with glass cannon thieves who can survive w/o the need of all of that.

Not to mention how the poorly designed attunements force him to just rotate cooldowns instead of having the freedom to use them when needed, this forces Ele’s to build bunker builds and always have 30 in Arcana. Are people seeing the problem yet?

Another whiner.

I didn’t miss the point Knote. The fact that other classes are played by mindlessly smashing buttons speaks only to the lack of skills of those who play those classes, nothing more, nothing less.

And in this video he doesn’t have any of the WvW buffs, he fights thiefs with 14 k HP, which is his base HP, now what does it mean I wonder?

The only one who’s missing the point is you Knote.

I hope you are smart enough to realize that by virtue of being in WvW you get power of the mist NOT the same as bloodlust.

Against once you strip away all those bonuses like in SPvP, I wonder how he would perform. Also he is using signet of restoration which isn’t as effective in spvp.

I havent been bothered to watching the whole video, but i dont think he ever showed what type of gear he was wearing. Nor does the video show anything related to the skill level or gear for the opposing player. Finally, whose to say he doesn’t do too badly and doesn’t show when he does aka only showing when he does well.

This is a whiner zerg fest! Shoo! Shoo! Go play guardian! :P

cheshirefox.7026:

don’t bother knote.. there’s always clueless people who don’t realize some issues go beyond l2p
if you noticed my vid i’m a mouse clicker,
i don’t wanto moonlight as a keyboard stenographer or macro
just to survive for more than 5 seconds as an elementalist

Another whiner on Ele forum? What a shocker!

“Moonlight as a keyboard stenographer”? You sure know how to whine! This is for you my clueless whiner, a video of ele who CLICKS!

Knote.2904:

Gabriell.4856:

Hi,

The first video wasn’t even funny. My advice? Don’t play ele, it’s not your cup of tea. Some people just don’t have skills to handle the class.

Watch how this guy beat a thief with his ele and learn a thing or two. The video’s not mine. It’s a guy from NA server.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0iPjSQJvPM

Another guy that missed the point, watch both videos.

Also, keep in mind that guy has a very specific build that’s basically half tank half dmg build, AND he has to use the hp buffs gained in WvW just to have 14-15k health to even survive.

And he goes toe to toe with glass cannon thieves who can survive w/o the need of all of that.

Not to mention how the poorly designed attunements force him to just rotate cooldowns instead of having the freedom to use them when needed, this forces Ele’s to build bunker builds and always have 30 in Arcana. Are people seeing the problem yet?

Another whiner.

I didn’t miss the point Knote. The fact that other classes are played by mindlessly smashing buttons speaks only to the lack of skills of those who play those classes, nothing more, nothing less.

And in this video he doesn’t have any of the WvW buffs, he fights thiefs with 14 k HP, which is his base HP, now what does it mean I wonder?

The only one who’s missing the point is you Knote.

Hi,

The first video wasn’t even funny. My advice? Don’t play ele, it’s not your cup of tea. Some people just don’t have skills to handle the class.

Watch how this guy beat a thief with his ele and learn a thing or two. The video’s not mine. It’s a guy from NA server.

Thanks for the link, interesting choice of food. I’ve never played full tanky+a lot of healing build before (my build is damage-based). But I think one of these days I’ll give it a shot to see how it goes.

Hey,

It’s impressive how you manage to play that good by clicking with your mouse.

-What runes do you use in your armor? -
-Are your trinkets all ascended?
-What trait do you use for 10 in earth? (stone splinters?)

Would be great if you could provide a link to your build in one of build constructors like http://gw2skills.net

Hey guys!

Came across this video while serfing YouTube and it’s really funny. I hope you’ll appreciate the humor

Up! Still looking for a guild.

Hi,

A lot of requests have been made to change the current Fractal weapon drop system, but nothing has been done to address those requests. Obviously, ANet have reasons for making the system work this way.

Nevertheless, I would like to make the following suggestion: reward players with ONE FRACTAL WEAPON CHEST PER ONE ACCOUNT for achieving certain personal reward level (50 as an example). The chest should allow us to SELECT ONE WEAPON of our choosing.

I think this way Fractal weapons will retain their certain level of uniqueness, and players will be rewarded for playing Fractals by getting at least one weapon that they can actually choose (while other weapons they have to get the usual way).

Thank you for your attention and I would really like to see some positive changes in this system in future updates.

Up! Still looking for a guild.

A little bit about myself:
-I’m a casual adult player
-I’m very determined to get certain Fractal Weapons and looking for a guild that have dedicated FOTM players (daily runs at lv. 38/48).
-I have TS3 / Mumble and can use them during FOTM / WvW
-Online almost every day in the evening (UTC +4)
-If I find a guild that matches me I will represent it 100% of the time

Looking for a guild that is focused on PVX (FOTM groups) and reasonable amount of WvW

I’ve been playing elementalist for more than 3 months now, and it’s my favorite class. I intend to master my character to the fullest and get several sets of the best gear. I’m playing only one character (no toons) and it’s important for me that I find a group where I can reach my full potential as a team player.

Contact me in game via mail or whisper! Or leave your reply here.