Guild Wars 2

Ralathar.7236:

You are far too defensive. Either do something about it or don’t. Pages of text won’t change anything if people in Goon are still doing things. Yes it sucks, yes it takes time to repair a rep. But coming here and saying a billion things about it accomplishes nothing but making you look guilty.

Defensive? I’m just laying out a point. It’s not a big deal to me and if you’re taking away that it is from what I’m saying, you’re doing it wrong. Jesus, it’s a forum. People will respond to what you say. Stop turning everything into a big slugfest. My last two lines are in jest, since it really isn’t easy to tell.

Yeah, it’s funny that you say pages of text won’t do anything, judging from the how you always complain in your posts. As I said, again, goon have already done things. I’m not crying because people are saying bad things about goon. It’s more of a cry because people are uninformed about goon, and continue to perpetuate misinformation. Informing, through text or actions, is a way to stop it.

Ralathar.7236:

OR, you could not believe me and argue all day, but you’ll do it without me from here on.

GuardianOMS.8067:

But I digress, this is fruitless

Did you miss that again? Pretty much means I’m done arguing (that point).

Place your trebs in better places? Defend them? Take out said ballistas and their operator(s)?

Is your guild forcing you to log into WvW or something? I have no idea how or why you would feel like WvW is a chore. Even commanders should never feel that way.

Phzt.9864:

You should go to a server where the community prioritizes fun over """winning""".

Yes. There’s a server that comes to mind. Err, Magerma or something? Yes, I think that’s it.

Ralathar.7236:

Even as a member of Goon you have to admit a reputation doesn’t stay around unless there is some reason for it. Maybe it’s some rogue members, maybe it’s a thing of the past, etc. But there is almost certainly a reason for it.

The alternative is denial or being privy to it while denying it and thus corrupt.

Did you miss everything I said again? I said that people are hearing about the reputation through word of mouth, not their personal experience, and that they are talking about it from other games. I didn’t say it never happened or there isn’t any truth to it. The fact usually is, a group (less than 25) of goons did something “mean” so they determined that’s how all goons are and carried that hatred across the internet. This is usually the story. That or they played Eve.

Ralathar.7236:

This is part of being objective and working to improve things.

I also stated how much good GOON has done for Maguuma, and with that, there should be no reason to drag drama from other games into it. Goon is not a qualifier for any kind of gamer, people need to stop assuming the ones that run around doing dumb kitten are representatives of the entire group.

But I digress, this is fruitless (not talking to you, just arguing this point), people will always assume the worst before for the best. I kind of do and kind of don’t care about the reputation. But that fact is we are going good for Maguuma and people are still stereotyping us in a negative light. There’s nothing we can do about it at this point. We must carry this horrible burden. :smith:

Ralathar.7236:

That’s fair enough then. My apologies you came off as if you had something to prove, asumedly from what I said.

I’m familiar with the idea that people generally assume anyone else commenting on their beliefs is being hostile towards them, so whatevs, water under the bridge. But yes, I do have something to prove, because all people tend to know are bad reputations and they place their bias off of that regardless if the reputation has any real standing (again, not saying you). I was just reiterating the fact that all I hear is “well I heard this” instead of personal experiences.

In any other game, I can understand, but GOON has done so much for Maguuma, especially in terms of WvW and the mumble crew. It just gets really tiring to hear people (not you) talking about a reputation from what this other guy said about ten goons from another game five years ago which may not even be true.

Did I say you said anything snarky about GOON? I said goons like to read what people say. You are one of those people because you make a lot of assumptions when you post about Maguuma. I quoted your post about you saying all you know about GOON was their bad reputation, and commented on the fact towards the general populous. I never said YOU were one of them. Jesus, stop making everything into a “get your facts straight” game.

First picture is not an exploit, it’s a way to hit siege on the bridge, you’re technically still not in inner.

Ralathar.7236:

You actually went through my post history lol? I guess I’m a big enough threat then because you do not bother to do such a thing for someone that doesn’t matter. I mean you can try to play it off but really you don’t.

Yes, you are a threat. Going through someone’s post history means they are a threat. Ugh… I don’t even… You do realize that goons generally like to hear/read what other people say about them, right? It’s mostly to make fun paranoid and stupid people. But yes, it does mean we care, because we get entertainment out of watching/reading dumb things people say.

Ralathar.7236:

I know nothing of Goon outside it’s poor reputation

Maybe you should get to know us then? No, honestly that takes too much effort. If I believed half or all of the things I heard about GOON, I wouldn’t be a part of it. This is why I ask people to tell me about their experience on Maguuma and what made them hate GOON or assume we’re terrible. It’s always, “oh I heard” or “in another game” and never “this happened in GW2 on Maguuma” But those are just the people I’ve run into so far.

Goons also spread lies about themselves, so there’s that. I kinda don’t get why, but if people are gullible enough to believe something just because it’s what they heard from InternetDude89, then it only makes them look bad.

Oh my god…. I get it now.

Rhyis.7058:

Maguuma’s heart is for another.

Love will find a way…

Cain.9724:

Maguuma is full of class, just look at how this guild and their commander stood in the invulnerable spot at the sw supply camp..

CD has done this. EBay has done this. So what? Oh right, Maguuma does something but now it’s “classy.” Shine on!

ANet, please add a function to search the forum for similar topics.

Oh wait… there is one….

bladie.5084:

First question is Yes, if you’re infront of our spawn point with multiple ballistas and arrow carts, then I believe that’s camping. Maybe I’m wrong.
Second question: No there are 4 exits. Mag BL, CD BL, EBay BL, and Lion arch.

Oh you mean two different entrances in EB? Oh sure, we can either go and start left to danelon or north to umberglade.

Two other exits out of the spawn, four entrances into the BL. Same thing. But why does anyone care about spawn camping so much? Why not take the other entrance/exit and move on? The people who do it, do it for tears. Posting about it on the forum only makes them want to do it more because they’re getting a reaction. I doubt they’re doing it to badge farm because after downing one or two guys, no one else should be falling for it.

bladie.5084:

Stop camping our spawn.

You can camp the spawn…? Aren’t there two other exits?

Ralathar.7236:

1. When Maguuma shows up for those fights they almost always have the higher numbers of the two. They won’t show up unless they have the numerical advantage or catch us during the middle of a hard fight. (which is admittedly smart in and of itself).

This is a lie. You are lying. Quit lying.

Ralathar.7236:

4. When I say they were built to run I mean it. The moment the fight was no longer massively in their favor they bailed.

This is what I mean when I say, people assume they know everything. Other things could have happened that made the decision to leave, but because you can’t see anything else than what’s on your screen, you assume what makes you look good, and them look bad. Keep doing this.

Edit: There’s also nothing wrong with running when you are outnumbered, though, being outnumbered is a second nature to Maguuma so…. yeah. EBay runs when they can’t complete their objectives because we’re stopping them. No one flaws them for this, why would you continue to use the same plan to try to accomplish something if you are being stopped in your tracks? Quit, move on, or make a new plan.

Ralathar.7236:

6. If that group would have decided to take Crystal Desert supply camps and towers on the other side of the map they could have likely made 500+ points for Maguuma. Instead they just attacked Ehmry Bay repeatedly. We were the perfect distraction by pressuring Crystal Desert heavily on Bay keep.

Shine on!

Nihilas.5374:

Such a nice person, using up supplies to build oil, when the supplies at the keep are low, refusing to run for supplies ^^

Before I saw the pic I thought it was going to be Captain Germany, but then I remembered he should have transferred by now. But yeah, we’ve had that problem with idiots this week. People deliberately draining supplies and building cannons, mortars, walls/gates when they’re not supposed to be. Even had one idiot building cannons while garrison was under attack. When told to stop, he said, “you are not my commander.”

And then there are the spies but who cares.

It’s gonna be a long two weeks.

^Fight the power.

Was there candy or something in NW camp on Mag BL today? Lots of CD seemed to keep throwing themselves at it without taking SW first.

Adein.2031:

“Oh look, nice of them to team up on us.” To which another person in my guild replied, “No, we just hate each other, so of course they’ll attack us and ignore CD. We would probably do the same.”

The majority of Maguuma does not hate EBay, just sayin’. Saying that Maguuma did X because of Y, doesn’t make it true. But you know, carry on.

Ralathar.7236:

Your commitment to not just being second but sabotaging is part of the reason we are ahead on points atm.

How are there still people that believe this? The level of paranoia you guys seem to have is just precious.

Ralathar.7236:

Tis a shame I don’t have a commander tag yet or I’d do more to help that.

Why do you need an icon? Is it really that hard to lead the server without a shiny? If you have some sort of voice comm there shouldn’t be any need for an icon.

Hey dudes, here’s a tip for when you’re trying to ninja something: Don’t take out the sentry or yaks coming from a camp, it tells us where you are. If you’re zerging around, sure, it’s a free point, otherwise, leave them alone.

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

you may beat us. but it isn’t because it is skill or cleverness.

We’ve said this to how many servers that beat us then come back? If anything it’ll be like DH again, we tell them the things they did wrong, they move up, get stomped, come back to us, we reiterate the things they did wrong, then they just say we’re tooting our own horns. No matter what, even when we’re helping them, we’re always losers to them.

fade.8603:

if we take a step back and look at the conversation from a 3rd person perspective, we are all losers in 1 way…

Because we’re playing a video game rather than spending a night out on the town? But it’s too cold to go outside. Speaking of going outside, looks like EBay got kicked off of CD and are coming back to Mag. Yay!

You got me, I sure am boasting my ego. Man I’m so proud to be a part of a cult in a video game. Continue boasting your ego about farming Maguuma players then? I dunno, whatever makes you happy.

Since I’m on Mag, I’m always a loser. So, good for you?

Oh look, EBay has cleaned their BL and is attacking CD. Kudos! Now come to Mag BL, we’ve taken it back and it makes for a great karma train. Toot toot!

Ahaha, don’t flatter yourself. Also, check your itel. Goon Squad of Maguuma is not the only guild with the tag ‘Goon,’ fyi.

TheFug.5278:

Every time I see mag take a foothold in EB you guys get destroyed within minutes. Do not act like you are not fighting EB out of choice – you tried and failed, and now because you are an easy target everyone is picking on you, and rightfully so.

Are you still trolling? I can’t tell. What do you call a foothold? A few Maguuma players heading into EBay usually are not looking to take the entire BL, or even our side. Once we get pushed out, it’s not a big deal because the goal wasn’t to do anything on a large scale. You’re taking opportunities and smashing into one server, no one said you were wrong for doing this. But the fact still stands that many EBay players think we’re targeting them maliciously, when that’s not the case at all. A few goons flipped a supply camp in EBay a few moments ago, not because it was EBay (we had already done it in CD), but because we were just idiots having fun.

Despite the reasons we do things, people somehow think they know our intentions and reasons better than we do. They interpret things differently and rather than just consider lighthearted fun in a video game, think we’re some big bad meanies out to take their candy. Not saying you’re one of them. But you really can’t say what Mag is doing just because we flipped a few camps, a tower, or a even a keep.

Stop lying to yourself, dude.

I liked the part when EBay couldn’t take the supply camp closest to their spawn from 5 people, so they brought 20. That was adorable. And at that time, yet again, EBay BL wasn’t clean, so they ended up smacking right into CD and brawling outside east keep. Shine on!

Edit: Did Maguuma order more commanders this week? You guys should call the hotline and return some of them.

We did. We cleaned you, Maguuma, out of our borderlands.

Good, now go clean up CD.
I’m kidding, I honestly don’t care what you do. I understand now that it’s easier to take on us than them.

katniss.6735:

CD doesn’t credit anything we do as skillful,

I don’t think it’s fair to say that, there are plenty that do. Half the people on the forums are trolls so you can’t really listen to what they say.

I’m noticing this on multiple occasions and times, it’s not a one time thing. CD is not hitting EBay as hard as Mag and vice versa. You keep quoting “zerg” server, do you honestly believe your oceanic presence is not a zerg? Because many CD players have already come to terms with this.

Bones.5762:

There is no would, it’s happening as we speak.

Oh yeah, I know it’s happening and I’m not imagining it. I guess it does make more sense to attack the BL that doesn’t have 40-50man zergs running around at 5am EST.

Honestly, I would target Maguuma too.

Oh yeah, because everyone likes death!

GoneBatty.9048:

I as a person find Goons to be an annoyance that is tolerated, and at worst scorned. That’s my opinion and view.

‘Goon’ isn’t a qualifier, a qualifier is something that validates a statement. My use of ‘Goon’ is clearly a detraction, as it sets aside part of the Maguuma community from the others as deserving blame for aggression towards their server.

Goons aside, I think your server is great, Maguuma!

Please share with us your story of playing on Maguuma that made you feel this way. I gotta love you people who are broken enough to think this.

Besetment.9187:

Just one thing. Is there a reason you keep hitting our borderland so hard and leave Ehmry’s alone until after everything red gets wiped out?

Came here to post that question too. Is there also a reason EBay never cleans up their on BL before coming on Maguuma’s? Like, I don’t really care that you do, it’s just a head scratcher.

Had a long fight at Maguuma Garrison, we were outnumbered by CD, fighting at every door, had a spy, and a useless German that kept wasting our supply and cutting off people trying to get back in. The odds were stacked against us, and we shouldn’t have held for that long. My Maguumians…. my keep….

Not looking forward to fighting CD again. Sad that I don’t get to play when the A-game is on and I’m stuck with always being outnumbered by Asians using Russian tactics. It still amazes me how with numbers like that, it took three or four golems to finally take keep. On the plus side, you finally realized, “hey, with three or four golems, we can finally take this keep.”

Isaac.6041:

I think Maguuma is an ok server. However I would Never join it because I’m loyal to mine and Maguuma is a funky name.

Okay, dunno who was asking you to but okay. Lots of people have home server pride, this is not a new thing to Maguuma. I, however, would never join a server I felt had a funky name. That’s just dumb.

azizul.8469:

i see more and more “my server is better that your server” posts here everyday…..

I see “here’s what you’re doing wrong and we’re doing right.” But I dunno, I don’t take every post as a stab to the heart so that’s just me.

Edit: Okay, all posts excluding zastari’s. Because he’s just the butt of all butts :T

fellyn.5083:

The past is the past and we can’t change that so it’s pointless to even bring that up. It’s just you guys feeding your egos saying “we told you so!”.

Thinking like this is part of what is keeping you down. You guys think everything we preach is just toot our horns or step on you. If you ever decided to consider what we (or anyone one else) were saying rather than brushing it to the side you’d be a lot better off.

If you think DH going down a tier has very little to do with your organization then you are pretty oblivious.

hobbes.6178:

Last time we played you guys we constantly told you about your lack of organization, …. you just assumed Maguuma sucked because the scoreboard showed you guys winning.

Just because you win, does not make you the better team.

Edited
I love you. This needed to be said.

Rhyis.7058:

People that switch sides solely to win are the problem. Since Mag never wins, there is no problem. Switching servers because you prefer another servers community over the one you’re currently on is completely reasonable.

Yeah but this guy has posted complaining about how it’s silly that Mag and DH are fighting each other, and his convoluted projections for why it’s happening. He was solely concerned about servers trying to secure first place, thought it was stupid for second and third place to go on each other borderlands, and “couldn’t get the logic” behind why second and third place hadn’t and wouldn’t form alliances to close the gap made by first place.

I still get pretty surprised at our participation because people tend to fly in the other direction when they hear goons are on a server, or goons provided the public mumble.

@RedOwl

You’re the dude that was concerned about points, right? Yeah, no offense, but please don’t come to Maguuma unless you’ve changed your outlook on winning and how to play WvW a bit. We sound a little too casual for you.

Also, if you see/hear someone say a terrible idea, do not “give a fair warning.” Lay it out as to why this is a terrible idea. Make the people that are willing to listen to him aware of the consequences that can happen if the plan is followed. If the person who gave the idea is not a complete manchild, they will defend their point, back down, or compromise. This doesn’t mean you should spend all your time arguing, just politely disagree. Of course, lemmings will be lemmings, but some lemmings can be coaxed into smarter lemmings (is that a thing?). Then said lemmings will know for future battles, why you never do this certain thing. This is also a way to educate players in WvW, giving out reasons and explanations. I swear half the junk I know is because I heard someone say it when they didn’t have to. Then I tell other people that, further passing along the knowledge.

Defended east keep again against 20+ CD with five Mag players (just one of the many times). Seriously guys, stop hitting south gate, it’s a death trap. I know you just took a supply camp and a tower, and OH LOOK! the keep is right there!, but c’mon… Also, don’t stop the emoting, it makes kicking you out all the more sweet.

Skapocalypse.5236:

DH has 3 problems right now.
1. We lost two guilds right now and are lacking experienced commanders.

To me, it feels like people should be able to coordinate themselves even without a commander unless they’re completely new to WvW. Not saying commanders are useless, but in the absence of one, or all, things shouldn’t fall apart. The icon helps, but I just see it as a light to gather the fireflies with.

During the timeslot that I play on Maguuma, there usually isn’t a commander on or there is and they’re in a different borderland. This doesn’t stop us from doing what needs to be done or reacting to enemy attacks. I can count over a dozen Maguuma players would make fine commanders, but they simply just don’t want to be. Like in my post above the quote, we had multiple hits from CD and DH this morning in our borderland, but people couldn’t, wouldn’t, or didn’t want to gain any ground other than supply camps and were all eventually kicked off. No commander needed yet we were outnumbered AND getting hit by both enemy teams.

I’m not trying to fault you guys for losing commanders or anything. But instead of relying on a few people to herd the cats, or a few big guilds. Strengthen the experience and abilities of your team as a server.

You do have some sort of voice communication, right?

If that’s how you have fun, as I said before, more power to you. For me, fun is fighting a server who can actually put up a fight that doesn’t include Russian tactics. I’m more disappointed than happy when we defend a keep while being greatly outnumbered. And last week vs EBay and ET was the ultimate snooze fest. We zergged around with no opposition and it felt like the worst and most boring week to me.

People will say things about your server, deal with it. Telling them to not comment on how you play or what’s happening or their opinion is unrealistic.

Actium.8765:

As i’m reading i see so much hate from mag and CD directed at us…

Uh, what? Where are you getting this? I think you’re being a little more sensitive to the posts saying anything about DH. But there is definitely not “so much hate.” If anything, it seems like there are more posts concerning CD, but I could be wrong. This a forum discussing pvp, there will be talk about about the opposing team. Don’t play a victim and blow it out of proportion.

Yup. Most of the Mag players left LOVE WvW, but are still very casual.

“Oh hey, DH is in our BL. Let’s not kick em out, they’re in third place already. Let’s go hit CD, they’re in the lead after all.”

VVVV
I hope they did it right. You have to type (FOR) MAGUUUUUUMA! in team chat before you kamikaze or suicide, or else it’s just pointless.

RedOwl.7496:

“Why do you care so much about points?”

I guess I would have to ask, why are you playing WvW if you DON’T care about points? If points don’t matter to you, then you should never bother taking a camp, tower, or keep again. Just fight out in the open field only I guess. Or why not just go play sPvP?

Because WvW is fun? You are seriously missing the point over and over. Points are not the end all game of WvW. Besetment.9187 explained it nicely, why don’t you go read his post again? Whether we win or lose, at the end of the day, it was fun.

RedOwl.7496:

Fighting over who gets seconds just seems dumb to me.

I bet a lot of Maguuma players do care about coming in first. But yet you speak for the whole server and say they don’t give a crap. Are you really that certain?

Not to the extent of making an informal alliance to pressure the first place holder. I’m not speaking for the whole server, I’m speaking for what I know and have seen. We care when we say, “who’s got the most points? Let’s go take some of the junk.” But we don’t care to the point that we will try to only fight the person in the lead.

RedOwl.7496:

They are only winning so far only because of their large morning zerg IMO.

This is nothing new to Maguuma. We just play the game and do what we can.

RedOwl.7496:

Yep. At least someone gets it! Also, the 2nd place team thinks…“let’s attack the 3rd place team since they are easier and weaker and we can ‘win’ second place.” Guess my brain will never be able to embrace this sort of logic.

You seem to think just because there a few Mag are taking points away from DH that their direct incentive is to secure second place. Can YOU speak for an entire server? Did you ever think that maybe we’re fighting you because you put up some kind of fight that doesn’t include just zerging? Maybe we don’t want to fight a 40+ man zerg during their primetime? I can be wrong in speaking for anyone, but you seriously need to reevaluate yourself if you think you are completely right and can’t understand anyone else who has different “logic.”

RedOwl.7496:

blah blah blah points points points

Why do you care so much about points? You do realize it is extremely difficult to stabilize any sort of point coverage with all three servers having different prime times, right? No one needs to make in informal alliance, if you see CD zerging around, just go and back cap or poke at their BL. This would have nothing to do with going into Mag BL or worrying about fighting them.

RedOwl.7496:

No one should really give a crap about who comes in second IMO. Does anyone ever remember who came in second place?

Maguuma rarely gives a crap who comes in first (unless it’s a close match). We tend to remember who comes in second because it’s usually us. And we usually tend to remember the places of our matchups because we want to know what to expect next time (if there is one). You sound like you’re solely focused on winning, if that’s the case, being on a server that doesn’t have 24/7 coverage is not for you.

EvilSardine.9635:

At around 1am today there was a cheater on Dark
We all reported him for botting since Arenanet failed to implement an option to report for cheating.

Botting sends the reported player something like a captcha and they have to enter it within a certain amount of time or they’re banned/probated for however many hours. Therefore, if you reported a real player for botting, nothing will come of it as they would just enter in the captcha. Use griefing or exploiting next time.

VVVVV
Ah well. Congrats! You are SoL! Welcome to WvW hackers!
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Because that kind of borders on an alliance? The way I see it, Maguuma fights whoever they want to fight. Once we get comfortable and have a hold on things, we attack the most reasonable target, which is usually whoever has the lead. While I was playing yesterday morning, on two occasions Maguuma set out to take grounds from CD and was pretty successful at it. So it’s not reasonable to say Mag is not hitting CD.
 
We most likely will not “leave DH alone” because WvW is not solely about first or second place. Maguuma also doesn’t seem to care about our place in the tier, we just want to play.

Deathdom.8250:

Kinda hard to develop tactics when brute force is all that is necessary.

See you say that but then they failed at taking east keep three times in one morning against ten people. I would just figure someone would say “hey, we need to go about this a different way” when what you’re currently trying isn’t working.

Ambrosiaa.6054:

Maguuma seem pretty weak individually. Our NA presence is almost non existent but we still can hold our own during NA primetime.

I’ve noticed this, I am also one of them. I am not geared for 1v1 fights. I need to have at least one other person with me for the character I’m currently playing to be useful. I focus on CC and toughness so having someone who compliments me with their damage is pretty great. So if I come up against a glass cannon or anyone specced for damage and Im alone, I’m cooked. There’s also no way my main, a bubble guardian,should win a 1v1 fight (though, sadly, I’ve seen it happen). Some people may beat me and think “oh mag players are terrible” when they never seem to think about what that person may be geared for.

ykyk.2740:

If you are talking about NA primetime, CD has fairly weak presence during that period (weakest among the tier 3 servers). They have overwhelming numbers during Asian primetime (NA early morning) but only one guild that really shows some semblance of tactics (EsF), the rest just bring lots and lots of bodies. Their asian zerg has a very casual feel about how they do things.

Yes, I was talkin’ CD primetime, NA morning. But that’s what I mean, there were no tatics, just throw bodies and a few golems. It’s not really flaming them if it’s just an opinion of how they work. I’ll look for EsF then, and see if we can get a good fight going with them.

Raincrow.1840:

Actium.8765:

day 2 and the flaming begins.

For real…. Why is it that no matter who CD is fighting we always get flamed? Even though we try to start things off respectfully? Win or lose we’re always the bad guys.

Judging by your primetime presence, I don’t think it would be out of line to call CD braindead. I’m not for name calling on the forum, but from what I’ve seen from CD, it’s pretty bad. You guys seem like every other lower tier server that has numbers but not much sense with what to do with them. I mean, CD attacked east keep with 30+ guys, couldn’t make it past 8 guys defending, so you built a golem, which was taken care of before it reached the inner. And that was the second attempt that morning. It kind of feels like you guys think throwing bodies at things fixes it. Unless you were just having fun, because I certainly didn’t take that seriously.

Either way, I always love to see invaders/defenders do /laugh, only to end up being kicked out of the keep in just a few minutes. CD seems to be pretty kitteny when they’re zerging around, that or their plan is to not upgrade anything since it’s only the weekend.

Guys, PUSH. You outnumber the enemy more than threefold, push them back! This is war, this is no time to be skittish, FIGHT!

Also, seven Maguumians to take out one DD ele, that was hilarious.
“Um guys, we’re gonna need some help at SE camp.”
“What? Why?”
“There’s an ele here.”
“Okay, kill it with fire.”
“We tried that…”

Congrats to that ele, (I forget the server).

Raffie.7865:

My server (DH) main issue is that we do not have 24/7 PVP coverage. We got well defined high/low times.

Don’t think you’re alone. That’s the problem with just about every lower tier server that doesn’t focus on WvW, has large, active, dedicated guilds for WvW, or recruits for time coverage. From the looks of it, we’re all in for a bunch of day/nightcapping, which means a lot of boring PvD :\

I’m excited to see what CD is made of. Already know DH and their antics so not really looking forward to that. I hope it isn’t true that they lost VIP because that would mean less resistance in this match up.

Nothing is an exploit until Maguuma does it.

Cain.9724:

And yes that was all I meant by stealth-culling exploiting, since I know our server is heavily using this “tactic” as well.

Okay, so you do, and heavily. I was just curious and realized there was no way I was imagining it. It’s odd that some of your players will complain when we use this “exploit” but it yet it’s a widely used “tactic” for you guys. Ah well, there’s one in every family.

Yes, that is exactly what he meant and implied. My apologies. Speaking of which, what is with all the thieves? I swear I’ve never fought so many against any server. I’m beginning to make crackpot theories that there may be a thief guild or they form parties of only thieves in WvW just to be advantageous of that “exploit.”

“stealth-culling exploits”
Here we go…