Guild Wars 2

5 Gambit Subject 7 on warrior? Mind sharing the basic build you used Killer?

I know he can still be 4 gambit farmed easily (which people are doing for profit) but is it possible to beat him with 5 gambits at all for achievement?

I don’t have a minion master or a zerk guardian but I desperately want the achievement (which I missed by hours with the patch change, I had already watched the vid and knew how it was goinna go down!)

Right now I have a Zerk Mesmer, Zerk Thief, Zerk and Soldier’s Warrior (full set of both, not a mix) and Soldier’s Guardian all at 80. I can also buy gear for any of the four other professions (also leveled) if I have to, but is it possible with any of the existing geared up characters?

There was a special way people were getting it very easily before today’s patch. The change to Deadeye wasn’t mentioned in the notes but the trick doesn’t work anymore. I just wish I had done it once before they changed it.

So now that Deadeye’s trick doesn’t exist, is there any way to get this achievement? I was a few hours too slow, so I didn’t get to pull it off when everyone else got the achievement. I don’t care about farming at all. I just want the achievement.

I want to get all the prep work out of the way. From what I heard this will be a long hard journey.

First off, which character should I try it on? I really want the easiest profession for this. I have full exotic ascended gear on my level 80 Guardian, Warrior, Mesmer and Thief. Guardian has soldier’s, the rest have zerkers. I have level 80 Ele, Engineer, Nec and Ranger with exotic, but mostly MF on those. I could pay to gear them up to make things easier if needed.

Which professions should I use? (Need to collect tickets on one toon.)
Second question: Which guides are the best?

Lord Erik.6903:

Problem now is meat head isn’t throwing the meat the direction hes facing.

Yeah, I’m having some trouble detecting when the meat is out there and finding where it is. Holding CTRL and looking around isn’t really cutting it, since I have to grab it so fast.

I voted my butt off for that guy. True, I cared more about the Abbadon fractal, but he should at least be a little grateful.

I love jump puzzles, mini-dungeons, and new events! I have no need for more mini-games like crab toss. Please Anet, don’t let people’s dislike of mini-games keep you from making your zones richer and more fun!

I still don’t have a good theory, Ayrilana. The first time I beat Evon T4 and was denied, I had not yet beat Kiel T4. So my order was Kiel 3, Evon 3, Evon 4 (no credit), Kiel 4 (credit), Evon 4 (no dredit), Evon 3, Evon 4 (credit).

Kasaeva.4691:

Havana, maybe you should go back and do t3 again? Can’t hurt anyway. :/

Kasaeva, someone else here in the forum told me he had to beat T3 and T4 in the SAME SITTING too. So I went and beat T3 again before beating T4 my third time and sure enough it worked! For anyone who is having the problem, make sure you beat T3 and then T4 without leaving the instance. It’s the only thing that worked for me.

Someone in the forum told me he had to beat T3 and T4 in the SAME SITTING. So I went and beat T3 again before beating T4 my third time and sure enough it worked! For anyone who is having the problem, make sure you beat T3 and then T4 without leaving the instance. It’s the only thing that worked for me.

Okay just wanted to say to XacTactX, THANK YOU!!!!

I beat Evon T4 a third time and the issue was exactly what you said. I needed to beat T3 then T4 immediately after without leaving the instance. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

Anet should really fix this, or let people know that for some people beating them on one sitting is required.

Everyone who is having trouble right now should know that you may not get credit even with a successful attempt. I beat Evon T3 a few days ago and beat Evon T4 TWICE today. It’s still not giving me credit. I have before and after screens so everyone can see I already was at 1/2 before, and then see the other screen two seconds later. Even beating T4 twice doesn’t help.

Before: http://i.imgur.com/pu1dsLg.jpg
After: http://i.imgur.com/7VfXfdq.jpg

Ayriliana, this is not the issue. I beat T3 a couple days ago. Today I beat T4… twice!

The last time I took a before and after screenshot so everyone can see I was at 1/2 and have beaten it on T3 (and actually on T4 with no credit.) Your theory was a good one, but if what you said was the problem, then by beating it twice today on T4, I should have gotten credit.

Here are my pics.

Before: http://i.imgur.com/pu1dsLg.jpg (right before)

After:http://i.imgur.com/7VfXfdq.jpg (right after beating T4 evon a second time today.)

Also, Ayrilana, thank you for trying to help. It’s just that the issue you mentioned doesn’t affect me since I already beat T3.

After many more tries I was able to beat T4 evon yet again! Again it is giving me no credit. I got credit when I beat Kiel T4.

Here is my before pic to prove I already beat T3 (notice the time on the clock as it’s right before the victory): http://i.imgur.com/pu1dsLg.jpg

Here is my after pic a couple of seconds later right after I beat T4 a second time: http://i.imgur.com/7VfXfdq.jpg

It’s incredibly demoralizing to do this for this many hours and succeed repeatedly without getting credit.

I know I should stop for now since spending the hours to beat T4 a third time won’t help, because it’s just not giving me the achievement. Please let me know what I can do to get credit. I’ve done Kiel’s T4 and gotten credit if that helps.

Just managed to beat it again after many more attempts. Again it is giving me no credit.

Here is my before pic to prove I already beat T3 (notice the time on the clock as it’s right before the victory): http://i.imgur.com/pu1dsLg.jpg

Here is my after pic a couple of seconds later right after I beat T4 a second time: http://i.imgur.com/7VfXfdq.jpg

It’s incredibly demoralizing to do this for this many hours and succeed repeatedly without getting credit.

I know I should stop for now since spending the hours to beat T4 a third time won’t help, because it’s just not giving me the achievement. Please let me know what I can do to get credit. I’ve done Kiel’s T4 and gotten credit if that helps.

Edit: Someone in the forum told me he had to beat T3 and T4 in the SAME SITTING. So I went and beat T3 again before beating T4 my third time and sure enough it worked! For anyone who is having the problem, make sure you beat T3 and then T4 without leaving the instance. It’s the only thing that worked for me.

Yes Ayrilana, I already knew that. I’ve already done tier 3 which is where I got the 1/2 from. Today I completed tier 4. It should have advanced the 1/2 to a 2/2 and given me the achievement. This bug is completely unrelated to anyone who did tier 4 without doing tier 3 first. I do not fall into that camp, and I imagine most of the people who are having this problem do not. It was pretty clear that I had to complete tier 3 first.

I finally did it solo with my thief and must say it was mostly due to luck. A lot has to do with where and when different vets spawn. How much they chase seems random. Sometimes far away vets won’t leave you alone and other times they seem crazy for walking away when I’m right next to them. Since the one success I haven’t gotten lucky again so I don’t know if beating it twice on T4 will do it for me.

TLDR: Can be done with enough tries, may not give achievement if you complete it still.

Edit: Since I forgot to mention it here (though I did in the bug report) it did NOT give achievement the one time I did do it. Here is the link http://i.imgur.com/7VfXfdq.jpg with proof that I’ve beat it on T3 from achievements listed, and proof that I beat it on T4 in right hand corner.

I beat tier 3 for Evon on another day, not today (not the same day I beat tier 4.) My screenshot shows in the upper right that it was on tier 4, and that it knew I was on tier 4. What was I supposed to have done?

Edit: I guess I’m confused and I don’t understand your comment. Under what conditions does beating tier 4 under tier 4 difficulty only credit you with tier 3, even though it says you beat tier 4 in the upper right?

Yes, already beat three and have proof in the screenshot. You can see I have 1/2 in the advanced support category.

http://i.imgur.com/7VfXfdq.jpg Same thing happened to me with Evon. Please fix anet, and give me the achievement. It’s so hard I don’t want to have to go through it again.

http://i.imgur.com/7VfXfdq.jpg
Took me forever to do it. Please, please fix this and give me the achievement. I don’t know if I can do it again. That stuff is HARD!

Finally beat T4 after many, many hours of trying and have proof: http://i.imgur.com/7VfXfdq.jpg but it still did not give me the achievement. I posted to bug reports but I’m also posting here because people who are working on this achievement may want to wait for now. I don’t know if I should try again, or wait till this gets fixed.

I’m now many many hours into the candidate trials. I work on it every single day, and pick a different class each time (I have all eight to 80). Still no T4. It’s very frustrating to spend this amount of time in something that took 10 minutes to do before the patch.

Hard content is much better if it’s hard for everyone. Please at the very least remove the achievement for those who completed it when it was easy (pre-patch).

Edit: Are there any post patch videos of people completing T4? I know there are a lot of T4 videos out there. The ones I’ve found are ALL before pre-patch. Let one side steal and things don’t spawn right and you can finish without any effort. This is the main problem with the Candidate trials. Hard content for everyone is fine, easy content for everyone is fine, but hard content only for those post patch is stupid.

Rock.7324:

I like it hard!
(EDIT; get your mind out of the gutter )

I only did 1&2 so far (for both Evon and Kiel) and the fact that it’s hard makes it so good for me. I will definitely try out 3&4 today, maybe I’ll succeed at that too

If you do like it hard then 1&2 must have been really disappointing, and 3 will disappoint you as well. It doesn’t get hard until T4.

Buttercup, they changed it with the last patch. The trick doesn’t work anymore.

I’d like it if someone would at least come out and say whether the challenge is really working the way they intended it.

I am very unhappy with this challenge. I also have done every living story including AR. Spent 4 hours today trying with my warrior (got an 80 of each prof so I can try on any class) but I couldn’t do it. Yet everyone who did it using the trick before the patch gets the achievement for free…

Should we avoid utility items now due to upcoming changes? I want to get my alts amulets, but don’t know what kind to get. They announced they are removing MF from items and could possibly do the same to GF (since it’s also an account bonus now.) If utility slots are restricted to just karma and xp, then these utility slot amulets will be the absolute worst kind.

GuardianOMS.8067:

“ANet made me pick a main and I’m upset about that.”

ANet shouldn’t be forcing people to pick a main. I got all 8 professions to 80 right away, then found out I liked half of them more. Now I play those four regularly, but never play one profession for more than a week. It really stinks in WvW. It’s not quite as bad yet in PvE (though it might change with ascended armor.) It’s fine in PvP.

Thank you cpg, this helped tremendously. Just got the achievement tonight!

How do you get inside Ulukk’s? I know I was inside on one character during the PS, but I don’t know if it was my warrior (the one at 173/175). I already completed my PS on the warrior.

By the way I’m at 174 now instead after going to the new zone in Wayfarer’s Foothills. I have another important question. The white names of the zones in the map. If I see the name does that mean I’ve found it already? Like do the names wait to appear until you’ve found the zone?

I certainly can’t beat Irongut. I heard it was pretty easy before when you could use food to boost you through. They fixed that before I thought of the idea.

I somehow managed to get 100% world completion and my gifts of exploration without ever getting Shiverpeak Explorer. Unfortunately, now the new achievement system is rubbing it in my face. I’m at 173/175 so apparently there are two zones that aren’t involved in world completion that I missed? How does one even go about finding these? I know I went through every Shiverpeak zone to get completion, so going through each zone again isn’t likely to help.

I generally run a 0/0/30/30/10, 3 shout, Alt Healing and Pure of Voice build when I do play my guardian. I notice in higher level fractals Shield of Absorption and Wall of Reflect become very needed. With two utility skills being taken up for these this limits my # of shouts and I’m wondering if there is a better use for all my traits. It feels like I’m spending too many points just towards one shout.

Can anyone who has done higher level FotM send me a build that might allow me to be effective while having Shield and/or Wall in my utility slots?

Pyroatheist.9031:

If, however, it was meant to actually provide a real choice between moving and taking more damage, it fails miserably.

Yeah, I agree strongly. It certainly doesn’t make me afraid in any way of moving with the numbers where they were at. Perhaps instead of .5 vs 1.5 bleeds Anet could change it to 0 vs 2 at the very least. People know they will be taking a very small amount of damage in both cases, the motivation isn’t there to consider standing still.

Thank you for your build AND description of your usage. I will be trying this out in PvP tomorrow. I was running a larcenous strike boon stealing build, but now with the changes, this will likely be better.

Sweetbread.2679:

Phantom.8130:

if you’re simply going to resort to personal attacks, i’ll simply report your post and ignore any further comments from you. good day sir.

God you thieves are hilarious. You play a class who’s core mechanics are the ability to go completely invisible with absolutely no counter, deal ridiculous amounts of damage while also having some of the best baked in defenses short of mesmer, and a resource system that let’s you completely ignore cooldown management or timing in favor of just brain dead spam. You finally get something remotely resembling a weakness in a 300 range nerf on one ability and cry to high heaven about how it’s destroying your class. .

We didn’t get a nerf on only one ability. We got many nerfs, but the shortbow one is hard to understand. You yourself in your post talk about how it’s the stealth an other things that make us (if we are so) overpowered. Then why should Anet nerf shortbow #2? It maks a huge difference in WvW to us and does not affect any of the troubles you and other profs have with thieves.

Crawford.4135:

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I fight countless Thieves in this game using Bow as their main weapon all the time. My point I was making is that most of the players complaining are those types of players.

I don’t use bows, at all. I have never relied on the ability as a ranged ability or a get-away ability, either. I find Bows to be useless in many aspects of the game. For PVE it has horrible damage for single targets over duel pistols. And anyone running from me in PVP is going to take far more damage with Duel pistols vs. a tiny Bow.

99% of you players are D/D & Short Bow (offset). If I had relied on a bow since launch and these changes took effect, sure they would probably bother me more. Instead I took the tougher less traveled road and went S/P & P/P and learned how to get out of bad situations without the need for a Bow.

I am the 1% spec in this game and I realize that. But to literally fight a Thief that’s using his/her Bow on me the entire fight? That’s just ridiculous and pathetic.

The people in this thread are almost all complaining about how this changes their role in WvW, not PvP and PvE which is what you are talking about. Have you read all the posts? The people who are complaining are not the “shortbow only” types you speak of. (Honestly I don’t know if there are many shortbow only thieves and even shortbow D/D is not as popular as you may think. S/D was popular before this patch and so was D/P.) This is a huge blow to WvW for us. The people in this thread know the class well and that is why they are upset.

So for me this is pretty much all bad. I run S/P Shortbow in PvE and S/D Shortbow in PvP.

Cluster bomb is still awesome, but the range is important in shooting down off walls in WvW. Why was this needed? I guess I use it at the same range as choking gas in PvE. Still, I don’t see the need for this change.

Larcenous Strike cost will mean I just get to steal less in PvP. It wasn’t so powerful before that I loved it, so maybe I should look for a different build.

Since my mainhand is always sword the change two sword #2 is very bad for me.

Nerfs down the line for my builds. Maybe I should look into trying some new builds?

I just did a check too, damage did not seem to increase while moving. Will test some more, in case it was a fluke.

When I’m on my mesmer I do it cause people are pretty thankful when I elevator them to the top. Plus it’s really fun when I don’t get ganked.

Iavra.8510:

And i like how warriors get their passive permanent +25% movement speed without even having to use up a utility skill while we aren’t even getting Compounding Celerity (which only works in combat anyway) buffed.

Though the early “leaked” notes has this in it, the more recent ones do not. I don’t think warriors are getting that boost. Of course this doesn’t change the fact that mesmers still could desperately use more speed.

I liked the old (probably faked) patch notes probably mostly cause of this:

Warrior’s Sprint: Movement speed has been increased from 10% to 25%.

I said I wasn’t gonna believe it till it came out, but my hopes had been growing as time went on. Now that I’m seeing more believable leaked notes, I’m sad.

So from someone new to thief who doesn’t understand the intricacies, can I see what I can follow and you guys can tell me if I’m an idiot?

S/D advantages: Have both the #4 cripple and the #2 stepping to chase down any running opponent. You even have cripple on sword auto on the 3rd strike to make it even harder to get away from you. You have constant access to stealth through #5 plus the stun from hitting with sword out of stealth from behind. More condition removal through #2. Better multi target damage.

D/P advantages: Can take NPC guards and such really easy with #5 since they just love to sit in it and miss you. Great closer on #3 and #2 for chasing running opponents. Also constant access to stealth through #5 then #2 but at greater initiative cost. Better single target damage.

So it’s a balance of better stealth and multi target damage vs better single target damage, with both being great at chasing opponents down? I’m new to thief still so I run S/P cause I like mowing down NPCs (#5 then #3) in melee and I usually shortbow all the rest of the time. I’m just trying to understand the benefits of the two builds being described.

Isle of Janthir, and it really has been only 2 of the last 8 times that I got credit. This last time I didn’t leave the circle once my group entered. and know I did a lot of damage to the lord, so it was pretty frustrating. I had already decided not being in the circle enough or not doing enough damage was the cause.

I should add that with towers, camps and land claiming, as long as I stand in the circle I have gotten credit. This really is only a Stonemist thing.

I rarely get credit for this event. I think I’ve gotten it twice out of the last 8 times. Today, I was inside the circle the whole time and I did very high damage to the guild lord (using D/P as thief) and again I got nothing. Do I have to do damage to the gates? (The golems this time beat them down fast while I attacked enemy players so I don’t know if the gates or walls were touched by me.) I’m placing this here instead of in bug reports because I want suggestions for how to get credited. (I already posted a month ago in bugs.)

I spent $35 on gems, $25 through a gem card and $10 directly through credit card, but I haven’t gotten anything.

Edit: Finally got mine 20mins after writing this.

I bought $35 worth of gems, but I did $25 through a gem card (which probably doesn’t count. ) Still I bought $10 directly from Anet (all of this months before the deadline.) Shouldn’t I have gotten the thank you letter too?

Edit: 20 minutes after writing this, I got mine. Thank you!