Guild Wars 2

Ryuujin.8236:

I tried many times to explain the basics of how the trading post, gold sinks, gems, value of gold and cost of legends/ascended are all closely linked and backed it up with copious charts and evidence to support it – but some people are just hell bent on believing that this is all a big scam on arenanet’s part them from their hard earned money and they can “fix it” with the wave of a wand.

What you’re saying here is entirely true and important but I don’t think you’ll have much luck getting the message to sink in.

When life gives you loonys, sell tinfoil hats.

No no, it’s just power traders that are “speeding up the supply / demand process”.
We would’ve reached this inflation in 2014, but they sped it up, come on just a little tiny teensy bit.

Barely noticed at all the difference.
So tell me, how did the +30 in all stats (considering your opponent got full ascended) affect you in any shape or form?

Maybe when we’ll have to deal with ascended armor and weapons I’ll accept the OP’s complains, but right now it’s so minor and insignificant that I can’t believe there are people that actually quit over this.

I, for one, haven’t even bothered trying to get one while at the same time got legendary and maxed out alts instead. (meaning I could always get it, but the difference is so little that I couldn’t even be arsed)

andeysmandey.1647:

marnick.4305:

andeysmandey.1647:

I bought dusk 2 days ago for 325g (i made an offer) and got it within 5minutes, that’s not too expensive imo and now i got my twilight.

But you can always wait for welfare precursors.

Are you on welfare? No one could farm 325g legit when he has a job (unless he buys gems but for dusk that’s about 200 euro in gems)

No, i’m just good at making gold. i took me around 200 hours played to get twilight.

I like that tone, we’ll get nerfed too eventually (200h+ – here as well)
Thinking on getting another legendary before it’s too late XD

What is stopping anyone that complains from making his own thief?
Just a simple question.

Vennyhedgie.5369:

Don’t listen to the kids who only want the shiny greatsword everyone has. It’s nice to see not everyone is going for the same. Congrats!

I’m wearing tracksuit pants, but my underwear are 100% Gucci made from the finest material!!

Recently.1043:

Its all supply and demand. These things were going for 1-3 silver when i originally bought my stack of them for legendary. Very few people were going for jug and the only thing they are good for is the jug really. It only rose because of the precursor loot pinata.

If someone’s willing to buy it at 30+ silver each, then all you can do is wait (or place buy orders)

Ever heard of power trading?
Ever heard of catching a trend?

Some claim they “speed up the supply/demand process”. I swear that I wouldn’t bother with this game anymore if I didn’t have the means of obtaining gold just as fast.

TP flippers make me sick.

I got to spend less than 700 hours to get my Sunrise.

I’m not a big fan of social life, since I can barely get along with anyone. (Online friends are far better and have more in common with me)
I do however have a loving wife that I get to spend my life with, and great paying job that only req. 4 days a week.
Couldn’t really ask for more, I guess it all comes down to how you live your life, and game wise – how efficiently you spend your time in the game to reach your goals.

P.S
If I wanted, I could get another legendary – any, within another month or less if I really wanted to in less than 200 hours. Atm one is more than enough for me.

Legendary can’t be acquired in solid PvE / PvP play. I thought that was already discussed about.

Flyfunner.2093:

Yea gold is too easy, I make 1000 gold a day, and I only play 1-2 hours at most.

I hope you got screens to back it up like I do.

Is this thread some sort of a joke played on all Guardians?
The only class that I can allow myself to go all out in zergs and OP calls it “worst”????

First, clearly you’re so fixated on playing one style at a time without changing util’s / weapons sets depending on the given situation.
Plus, it appears you are lacking the ability to read the flow of battle and awareness to your surroundings.

And I’ll elaborate….
Your whole post already shoots itself in the foot by combining the words “flee” + "
Guardian" at the same context.
In 1v1 you don’t flee, you stay and there shouldn’t be any class that can bring you down if you prepared yourself beforehand with the right weapons and utils (requires practice, I normally change my weapons based on the terrain rather than class involved)
In zergs you take both your GS and hammer and unleash everything smack in the middle of it, I won’t even get to what skills use first and last. If you can’t figure out that much from the very few options we have then you shouldn’t play Guardian to begin with.
You can dominate a whole zerg with WoR and spirit shield (untraited!!!!)
“Stand your ground” makes sure you don’t get screwed with CC.
Can carry “Save yourselves” if you feel like staying for a while in there.
As was mentioned before – Altruistic healing along with popping all the virtues + RF elite will provide you another great escape towards your own zerg.

But seriously, above all I’d rather play a class that is very hard to take down and deal great damage at the same time.
I don’t like to say this but it sounds like a strong case of a person that was given the gear and tools, and expecting them to do the work for him.

Do learn how to use them as well.

I should post this later on when I get back from work…
no.1 item on the trade post a few days ago was the “Power trader” boost.
That really cracked me up, though the joke was all on us.

As for gph…
Nothing changed for me, and if you put me in hardcore mode I can make over 100g a day. In much less than 12h.
Though I feel like a dirty w—-e after playing for so long.
Unlike our little flippers here, my way is solid, no losses only gain, and can be repeated whenever I want.
I also won’t share for the reason that whenever one does so, the whole market gets kittened up slowly, in this game everything must be done in secret.

Gz.
But tell me this is your 2nd legendary….

To prolong the game’s vitality, I’d say that this will include alts or something that will be done a lot faster with more maxed lvl characters available.
Make everyone keep spending more time in the game to work towards their goal.

Just a wild guess.

In quite a few threads it was stated by certain selfish TP flippers that they pretty much bought out the whole stock to up the prices.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this wasn’t done by a single person, but a whole bunch of them that currently piled up in their storage over 1k S.doubloons each.

Some of them must be reading this or similar threads and laughing their kitten off.

As expected, nearly 250 attempts – 77 clovers.
that’s pretty much 1/3 for me.
I did most of mine in a row by the way, it could have something to do with it, could have not…

Not sure what’s the rush. that only means one thing –
No more lodestones and T6 mats on the market.

You guys really honestly think it’ll be better to have a scavenger hunt for a precursor rather than the current situation? you must be dreaming.

Charged lodestones already at 3g each, imagine the case after we all get “free” precursors.

Someone told me that they added more noticeable glowing effect to Sunrise after looking at mine.
tbh I wasn’t sure if he meant that they added the effect in general as if it didn’t exist before.

Only got it last week though.

Dogblaster.6713:

Horheristo.3607:

I leveled 10x lv80!!! Oh wait… wrong topic..

TWMagimay.9057 – I get your point, and it is a valid one, but I never understood people who want to farm a specific less valued item.
By the time you farm 250 silver doubloons in this case, how much money could you make instead to buy them off the TP by farming something else?

Or did I miss the point myself here?

You make around 150-200g by farming karma, etc …

Sorry I had to point this out…
150-200g? I farmed 1m karma and barely made 10g off it.
I hope that “etc” plays big part in the 150-200g story.

Opportunities,
That is the only way to quickly cash out in this game.

Xmas comes? examine every option, every new item, every loophole in an event to make the quickest gold. It proved to work so far, so work your mind a bit.
The opportunities will keep coming with any new content that comes.

Proven every single time.

Logun.5360

I’m glad you took your time and fully responded to each part of my post.
It was, unfortunately, meaningless…
I still make far more gold than a very high % of the community per hour, and as matter of fact – it is people like you who push my gph even higher.

But I’m no hypocrite and I’d like to see the majority of the population remaining more pleased for a better thriving game, than to face with more players who will eventually decide to rage and eventually quit over the ever-so-difficult market.

By the way, I don’t need a major in anything, I’m smart enough to get around on my own, and would wildly guess that probably better than you as well.

Logun.5360

I’ve seen a few gold hoarders like you in other MMO’s, players like you got nothing to do with the game and everything that it has to offer.
You feel complete no relation to anything that is going on in it, while talking about kittenes of gear, you follow the very same concept with gold.

But I’ll stop before I get moderated.

I’d like to add on topic that TP farmers exist in every game, personally I believe it is a very selfish and destructive on large scale way of making gold.
But nothing can be done about it, and most of us will just have to suck it up.
Just the other day I was thinking that after playing this game you can come out with a major in economics, which is a very sad state that this game brought us to.

I’d like to see players who show no real interest in this game to simply leave it to the casual and traditional hardcore gamers. I talk to deaf ears, but do consider finding yourself a new hobby, perhaps wallstreet stocks exchange.

While it was taken into account by Anet that the “final” prices of high end mats would go higher than what we had a month ago.
Plus adding the fact that certain farming spots got the nerf hammer…

Wouldn’t it be smarter instead to flood the market with more high end items?
Increase drop rate on T6 mats and more ecto gain per salvaging will balance the market in orders vs sales.
Basically strengthening the value of gold.

I personally do not have any gold issues, but would rather play in a happier environment.

I wouldn’t even use Cleansing flames on my enemies in WvW, and rather use it on my allies for op massive condition removal. Can you really ask for a better support?

Btw, if I still want to use Cleansing flames as damage output, I’d rather have at least 3 or more enemies infront of me, since the flames are cone shape AoE .
Otherwise even scepter normal strike will hit for more than the duration of the flames.

I leveled 10x lv80!!! Oh wait… wrong topic..

TWMagimay.9057 – I get your point, and it is a valid one, but I never understood people who want to farm a specific less valued item.
By the time you farm 250 silver doubloons in this case, how much money could you make instead to buy them off the TP by farming something else?

Or did I miss the point myself here?

Just wanted to give my thanks to the contributors of this topic!!
I got my Sunrise on Desolation so special thanks to PinkiePie.9764.
But my thanks goes to all of you who keeps us all updated!

Keep up the good work!!

Can’t believe it, full…

Bumped, don’t let this topic to be forgotten!

Any more uncontested guys?

I have to admit that as I do nodes rotations religiously every day, I myself simply keep earning more per each run these days, so I can safely say that mats runs as income is not negatively affected by the inflation.

Sieglinde.2701:

The problem here is most normal people don’t play gw2 to play the virtual world stock market. People should be making the vast majority of their in game money wandering the world killing things, rescuing maidens, and killing dragons, not having a heroic battle speculating ectoplasm prices.

The game is supposed to be an escape from the real world, not a lesson in economics.

100 times this, some words of wisdom instead of trying to be a smart—- and lecturing everyone how they should play to achieve their goals.

Seriously if i had enough gold I’d buy 2000 ectos right now.

9g per divinity rune, I rest my case.

The days have come when making 20g a day is considered average and anything less is a disgrace. I make around 40~50g in a few hours but I stopped feeling special long ago, only pity for those who lost to the inflation.

I’m 100% behind Dogblaster.6713 on this one.

I used to think like everyone else until I actually did something about it.
Right now I only need an uncontested temple to complete my weapon, and it took me more or less around a month to do so.
I got less than 700 hours played by the way, so it’s really up to you guys.

Leave legendary as is.
Regardless of what it represents, it differentiates you from everyone else in a game that is already very homogenized.

Nice scepter + torch combo I like to use in pvp – #2 , #3 (immobilize) , #4 (and press again to throw the flame). leave most enemies with nearly half their hit points in 3 seconds.
To finish them off, use Signet of wrath and switch back to your main weapon to unleash your fury.

Today I use GS / Hammer mostly btw, but torch is also nice in some situations.

As soon as legendaries become “free” or much easier to get, expect a huge rise in the rest of the mats prices. And you can be sure that I’ll be one of the firsts to buyout the whole market leaving you with 1g per powerful blood.

Burn.5401:

Gift of Fortune is just ridiculous considering the current price of t6 mats and the horrible drop rate. Even a hardcore grinder playing 24/7 will need a month to just get one of them capped at 250. While A-Net is busy making new content while abandoning the rest, they forget about their “no grind” philosophy completely. I had high hopes for this game because we were promised “rewarding” stuff and the reality is just a typical korean MMO grindfest. The main difference is that in other MMOs you can at least farm the things you want, here you get punished with DR on loot. A real disappointment.

You speak as if you know well hardcore farmers.

I started my legendary farm around Halloween, and right now I’m about to finish it (only around 100k karma needed, got all the mats besides 4 clovers)

Here’s a funny situation that makes me happy with the current legendary issue at hand:
I’m rotating between characters and for about an hour been seeing the same people simply waiting in Frost Gorge talking about when then Dragon comes instead of doing something more productive for themselves in game.
I really hope that this was just a one bad example, but if the norm is just to expect some RNG to be your saving grace, then I demand the situation to remain as is forever, I’m quite happy with 5% of population owning legendaries.

NoOneShotU.3479:

You used to be able to make almost 2g an hour with a speed boost and knowing your routes through certain zones.

Those days for now are dead due to the lack of fine mats. So the money is in farming fine mats. How many Karka can you put down per hour to get the blood people want.

First, about the karka – just kill the skelks at the bottom right of the same map.

Second, I farm -mostly- mats over 10 characters every day, and let me tell you… the amount of gold I make on the time I invest to gain it, will put even the biggest TP farmer to shame.

Just today, after 242 shards I got 74 clovers.
Don’t give up until you finish a stack, and then see how you ended…

Though I must admit, it does sound like you had a stroke of bad luck there.

You know what I really miss?

“DROKNAR RUN ////// 2P each, fast run less than 30 mins ///////// 4/8, Whisp to invite”

Closest thing I get now is opening a portal to Arah, but just doesn’t feel the same

Evil Andrex.8160:

Horheristo.3607:

Around 4g after selling back the crafted items.
Probably even less.

Make sure you’re making runes only (no gear discoveries) and refining materials.
Minor rune takes about 10 crafts to earn 25 points, major takes about 5 or 6.

Before selling?

You sell them as you go, pretty much vendor the green ones and TP the rare ones.
They sell fast enough on TP.
Not sure how much everything will be before selling, sorry :X

Sauzo.6821:

My question is how the hell do you make 25-50g in 2-4 hours? Are you selling all the mats you get as drops? I mean doesn’t that defeat the purpose of farming since you prolly need the T6 mats anyways?

I’m not farming mobs, it is highly unrewarding.
I own 10 lv80 alts, and part of my gold making revolves around nodes farming, but not all of it.

In case you wondered, I got just above 700 hours so no lifeless gamer here, just playing smart. (though not smart enough to take advantage of past exploits…)

Drebi.1875

You’re right, I was very contradicting, and was in fact not talking about myself -
But the majority of the players (anything from semi-hardcore and below).
I don’t mind being the silly wrong guy here, I know the facts, I got my account and screens to back it all as well. But it really isn’t what I came here to say or prove.

Around 4g after selling back the crafted items.
Probably even less.

Make sure you’re making runes only (no gear discoveries) and refining materials.
Minor rune takes about 10 crafts to earn 25 points, major takes about 5 or 6.

Drebi.1875

No, actually I was only referring to the first legendary in my first comment.

In relation to everything else you said – I did say “Unless you’re an expert at playing the market”. So nothing proved wrong, you can still get a legendary if you know how to play the market.

I won’t go through this torment a second time by the way. I can easily get a legendary per a month played now, but after the first one I’d rather focus on the rest of my characters. Since I enjoyed being able to choose whichever class I want at GW1 with max stats and best gear, and am planning to do the same here. (already past the leveling part, just lacking gear)

I this only happening in US servers?
I’m in Gandara EU and haven’t experienced any difference in any zone.

People are still attempting Balthazar, Orr chat is always active, everyone still do all the dungeons. Lucky server or American behavior?

@ Drebi.1875

Great input, you jumped the biggest hurdle which was the precursor with RNG and the rest was cake since T6 mats were cheap at the time.

Here’s the thing though and hear me out…
I make anything from 25~50g (solid) a day (depending on my free time), from 2~4 hours considering my goal. My method was only realized at the beginning of this month though. Yet I still find it difficult to keep up with the market’s prices.
I’m positive if I was lucky enough to get a precursor earlier I’d finish it up by now as well.

I’m glad that you made it on time with some good luck on your side, but considering a legendary atm will cost anything from 700~1000g – Unless you’re an expert at playing the market, you won’t make it again. (not just you specifically )

Not sure if this was posted:
“Stand your ground” supposed to work on allies according to tooltip, but only works on self.

I’m going to make a topic about first Legit Sunrise when I get it. sad face

Got 0 complains about the hammer, really people what’s wrong with you?

PvE:

1. - Great skill, leave as is. Works best under heavy fire with the solid protection (and healing from altruistic if traited)
2. - Short cool down, a small gap closer, Blast finisher, nice damage. Perfect for all situations.
3. - Serves as opening strike, more useful for PvP though.
4. - Ever been in those annoying Statues affected areas? (Surrounded by dark green and black mist) Right smack in the middle there’s a veteran DE that won’t get out of it, that skill makes sure he does. I can think of more situations that I needed to relocate a mob, mostly ranged since they don’t tend to chase you very far in terms of distance from their original location.
   @ Tim.9850 – Doesn’t work in PvE, but it does in PvP, and tested.
5. - Try to think out of the circle, literally!! Why close mobs in? when you can keep them out? They only think in one way route and keep walking towards it, they don’t walk around the ring. This helps for a few moments of regen and having to deal with less mobs at a time.

PvP -

1. - 3rd chain makes it difficult to favor the skill (only an idiot will stay in the symbol for it’s full duration). I use it to land the extra hits I need until weapon swap.
2. - Same as PvE version, perfect.
3. - Combine with Signet of Wrath (or #3 of scepter if you got as secondary) to dominate any player in zerg or 1 v 1. Skill is good regardless if aimed and timed right at pvp.
4. - Two sweet examples:
   - Go behind enemy forces (leap or teleport), smack anyone into your own zerg, cast #5 for the lulz as he roll backs.
   - EB Jumping puzzle, so steep, so narrow, so demanding to use this skill. This works of course on any high ground and provides an instant kill.
5. - Either trap in, or trap out, works great on bridges and narrow places in general.
   Example: leap / tele into zerg on a bridge, cast #5, roll back, cast WoR = fun times.

I personally use all weapons depending on what I do, aside sword / shield / focus.

PunchClockVillain.8960:

now you’re gonna have to tough it out and grind your kitten off like intended.

Like intended indeed.
All of these mats and precursors topics wouldn’t exist if everyone played legit by the way.
Why? because the legendary would actually hold a legendary status and be recognized as a weapon that only players who invested a considerable amount of time achieved.

Hell, I doubt anyone would own a legendary if we had today’s market from release.

First post brings an immediate response from a dev.
20 posts (not counted) later, still no reply…

I can see where this is going

Well if it makes you feel any better…
Those that did get their legendaries and even got a few in their hands, are right now in the same pinch as everyone else

Meaning they’re stuck with no means to make quick gold and even now by getting new ascended gear.

So everyone lose out of this situation, the only difference is that they got past the legendary wall.