Guild Wars 2

Prosecutor.1457:

Ironvos.9014:

Too bad the 50ppl SE zerg ran away from 20 defenders in T3 bay on their border at 5 am.
We didn’t even have any supply left.

Chest thump more? Started with 1700 didn’kitten All you guys were doing was spamming AC’s at every gate. So, unless you somehow thought you were better like that, you’re mistaken.

It’s a PPT/coverage game here folks. Too bad FSP got the short end of the stick. Fort Ranik just happened to be free to transfer over.

One of your folks over there actually talked to me about transferring over to FSP in which he said FSP could probably cover 75% of the transfers.

I was too bad because we were looking forward to a last stand.
You could have easily built trebs on the outer walls or on the north hill and cleared most of the siege in bay and trebbing down the inner walls.

I couldn’t care less about your pvd and wexp trains, but atleast don’t run away from the only resistance you get on the whole border.

Too bad the 50ppl SE zerg ran away from 20 defenders in T3 bay on their border at 5 am.
We didn’t even have any supply left.

flalus.5490:

Dear FSP,

ty for all the lootbags today on your bl (over 500)

Atleast we had a border today

Those must be our pve achievement hunters you have met.
It greatly downgraded our average wvw capability.
Last week what you now complain about was what we complained about, we never found fair fights with roamers last week.

Well this should improve our coverage … on the forums :p

Well yea we had to be awake, you were there to cap our stuff :p

And in week 3 we’re in a german sandwich.

styx.7294:

Let’s say I’m a veteran, for argument’s sake. I have a hypothetical guardian I’ve spent hundreds of hours on (it’s my 2nd character, don’t judge me) with mostly ascended gear where possible and the guard buffs.

Now I wanna make a warrior. Bein of short money, I barely put together exotic gear and now have to learn my class playing against people who have +2000 hp over me, +120 condition damage, +120 power, and +8% to all their stats.

Well, that’s fantastic. Who thought that was a good idea?

Learning your class, and the other classes is still more important than those few hp and stat boosts.
One wrong timed dodge will costs a lot more than the 2000 extra hp the other player has.
One wrong timed or bad placed skill and you lost a big portion of your dps.

Galandil.9641:

Ironvos.9014:

What is this dargonite you speak of ?
Only needed for ascended weapons?
Good thing those don’t mean a thing is wvw

I think you don’t have a clear idea of the difference.

Apart from stats differences (which are not very high between exotics and ascended), the most important part is/will be the difference in weapon damage/armor rating of every single piece.

Ascended weapons -> +5% weapon damage compared to Exotic weapons (for example, a gs goes from 995-1100 to 1045-1155, +5% dmg, or an sb goes from 905-1000 to 950-1050, again +5%).

Same goes (if you go check the links in game) for the new ascended armors: +5% to armor rating for every single piece.

This means that a full exo geared character will have a “differential” of about 7-8% to a full ascended geared one. And 8% is a HUGE systemic difference.

And people who love only to do WvW should be able to get the same ascended “rewards” as PvE ones, if they play roughly the same overall time.

That 8% isn’t going to help that pve farmer win anything in wvw against wvw veterans who are in exotics.
Even in wvw with the old bloodlust, that +150 stat points wasn’t going to make you a better player.

What is this dargonite you speak of ?
Only needed for ascended weapons?
Good thing those don’t mean a thing is wvw

Banzie.5248:

Removed my post as wrong server :P

Allright, so did i to avoid any confusion

Hackuuna.4085:

Whoever won the head to head is probably how they decide wins in that scenario.

Allright, good point.

But in the 7 weeks season servers will also meet twice.
A and B face twice and each gets a win and second place.
The rest of their matches they win.
Both have 33 points and have won against eachother.

Jayne.9251:

Even number matches have the chance of a tie in final placement.

Same can happen with 7 matches.

Server A and Server B meet one time.
Server A wins and B is second.
Server A gets second in another match but wins the rest.
Server B wins the rest of his matches.
Both end up with 33 points.

I would like to know why Anet has decided to make the leagues last 7 weeks.
It makes it pretty complicated to try and arrange a fair matchup schedule.

In any decent league i know it is usually the meaning to make every player face opponents the same number of times.
That way at the end a balance can be made up to show who really is the best without having any major random factors that can influence it.

With 7 weeks it means each server will fight 14 opponents over the course of the season.
But every league except US gold has 9 servers in it, meaning each server has 8 unique opponents. With the 7 weeks schedule the best possible distribution of matchups would make each server face 6 servers 2 times and 2 servers 1 time.
What if server A faces the top 2 league servers as those one time opponents, and server B faces 2 bottom ranged servers as one time opponents.
Discussion would arise that server B had a harder schedule than server A, making it unfair for server B.

With 8 weeks each server could face their opponents exactly 2 times.
There would be no discussion that one server had it easier than the other.
And in the end the points can tell you who is the winner.

We were seriously outgunned in that Gandara – AG – FSP match due to lack of dedicated wvw guilds. Still we managed to even take the lead for a while, was quite exciting.

The winner is the server with the most points at the end of the season.
Each match the winner gets 5 points, 2nd place gets 3 points and last place gets 1 point.

Jayne.9251:

I was under the impression as of Friday you’re locked into gold/silver/bronze for the next seven weeks and there was no mobility between the leagues?

Thats not what the OP is referring to.
Servers will offcourse be locked into their league for the duration of the season.
But if the ratings keep being calculated the way there are, at the end of the season there would be a big ratings gap between the leagues because of how the ratings are calculated.
Meaning that if Season 2 starts right after Season 1 it would be virtually impossible to get to end up in a higher league the next season on ratings alone.

I don’t get why they chose 7 weeks.
All leagues except US gold will have 9 servers.
So each server has 8 opponents.
If it was 8 weeks long we could face each server twice.

qualm like a bomb.6512:

1. would be paired with #12 and #24 = team 1 ; #2 would be paired with #11 and #23 = team 2; #3 would be paired with #10 and #22 = team 3 (and so on…)

Well if you continue this setup, so 4 + 9 + 21 / 5 + 8 + 20 / 6 + 7 + 19
server 13 to 18 have no team.
You would need to start at 1 +16 + 24 / 2 + 15 + 23 …

Interesting match, seems like everyone has a chance to win this week.
Quite different from all the other matches where the winner is already clear after one day.
GL to the Millers and Raniks

Divert all non essential power to the popcorn machine, let’s hope it holds out for 2 more days.

Lusios.1562:

Ironvos.9014:

-taps the sign-
Don’t feed the trolls

Hooooly kitten, Luna Solares :o Now there’s a name i have not heard in a while, remember seeing you in wvw all the time and then poff. Welcome back

Thanks
I will be playing a bit again sporadically.
Certainly not as much as i used to, like pulling allnighters is a thing of the past.

Things don’t seem to have changed a lot in my absence, except for the fact they got rid of the krait lake.
And the forums certainly haven’t changed at all.

-taps the sign-
Don’t feed the trolls

I run a balanced phantasm/support/bunker style build.
GS/staff 0/20/30/15/5
It’s pretty good allround, i do fine in 1v1 in wvw, great in small scale wvw and have decent survivability to run with a zerg.
Gear is knights for most part, some soldiers in it aswell and ruby’s in the trinkets for damage boost.
Passive condition defense of -56% condition duration kind of makes up for the lower vitality and makes life a lot easier when facing enemies with things like immobilize, chill, fear.
I run a build like this cause i don’t like to be squishy in wvw, but i want to put out decent damage aswell.

Here’s all the details
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/mesmer/?4.0|1.1c.h15|6.1c.h4|1n.79.1n.79.1n.79.1n.79.1n.79.1n.79|4u.0.1n.67.1n.67.1n.67.1n.67.1c.67|0.k1a.u3ac.f4.5|16.8|33.3d.3c.34.3o|e

Spanked hard? we only lost by 10k and 20k against a T3 and T4 server. We expected it to be nearly a walkover when we started friday.
Our goal was actually to have enough ratings left so we would end up in T5 rather than T6 at the end of the week. Not our fault gandara was on a break and AG, well i dunno what AG’s problem was but they sure should do better than what they did in this match.

Grekk.9450:

Ironvos.9014:

I’ll embrace them when there’s another daily ambient achievement.

Makes no sense – Return to start – do not pass go, do not collect £200

You must be the monopoly guy

I’ll embrace them when there’s another daily ambient achievement.

Have fun next week in T4 AG.
Gandara will have to up their game to keep up with the BB zergs, make sure you don’t get left behind

Since you’re both posting about our matchup anyway.
Here’s the AG blob that wanted our garrison on the night after the patch.

Gandara won the T3 match against PS and AR 2 weeks ago, and last week was also a pretty close match.
If you are gonna count AS and BT dropping as a reason you ended up in T3, well then i guess we should still be counted as a T6 server since them dropping made us end up in T5 :p

Nemesys.7251:

too bad sems FS going down,comeon FS we love your lootbag fight and remain here with us.

There will still be AG lootbags, i saw many of them in your amazing orr wvw farming videos.

Corran.4957:

looking forward to the final day of the match. If FSP split apart their zerg a bit more often i would like this to be a more regular matchup. Provides a bit of everything

Can you honestly stop blaming it all on us.
It has been said multiple times already that EVERYONE blobs.

I know most of the gandara and AG leet guilds probably look down on our server cause we are mainly pugs, and you expect to win engagements by default, and if you don’t you blame it on being outmanned.
The reason why we still have even scores is not cause we outman, outblob or pvd you, it’s cause your guilds are too focused on open field battles and collecting lootbags, wasting their time basically.
Those guilds make a lot of mistakes when it comes to sieges and usually also underestimate pugzergs and are very careless.

If you want to make a blob split up, go attack multiple targets at once.
If the blob remains it will not be able to defend everything and loose targets and points very quickly, if they do split up your goal is achieved.
See it’s that simple.

This was all foretold almost 50 years ago
http://s20.postimg.org/plo7tga4t/the_blob.jpg

Anyway, do remember FSP do not have the amount of wvw guilds you 2 servers can put out every day. If you expect us to run around with a 30ppl pugzergs while there are 30ppl enemy guildstacks running around you should know better.

While FSP was in the lower tiers we rarely had anything near a blob. We ran in 30ppl zergs + striketeams allover the map, we could do this cause we faced similar pugzergs.
Most of our guilds ran in 10-15ppl groups around the map.

So basically they are everywhere now

Minfast.5489:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h37KQu64RY4

Just for you Corran.

The 90’s was a silly place :p

Maybe he could have cut out the pieces then where hes farming pugs like a boss.
And writing this doesnt help.

they move as duck and they die like headless chicken,not all the time but really u all enjoy play like that?

So i described how i view his kind of guildgroup/zerg in a similar way

So if nothing changed, except the fact that you can see them now, what makes it so different than last week?
If you don’t like big zergs then don’t go on EB during primetime, maybe the fact that it has a que should give you a hint that a small scale battle with another guild will be rare.

I don’t run with the zerg often, im a scout, but when i do i actually enjoy it, because if i don’t i go do something else. Not everyone enjoys spending their casual gametime on TS activating the skills the commander tell you to and having to follow thesame group constantly.

So you show the blobs in EB and how you kill some pugs with your leet guild ,thats nothing new.
I find it way more ridiculous to now see how those leet guildzergs move around like a herd of scared chickens without a mind of their own, they just rely on full boonstacks and hack away with autoattack. Now that is boring.
You XxX may be fancy when you run with 15, but when i see some of you in a pugzerg you go down just as fast as any other guy.

Poor guys in T1 actually, even more blobbing than usual there i guess

Rookni.2469:

I really dont hope people will play the way they did tonight. The numbers of people running together was just insane! FSP borderlands

On all sides that was.
There must have been 70+ AG’s infront of our bay tonight.
We probabaly killed about 20 in the initial stages but still easily 50+ streamed inside from portals and trough the gate.
Was horrible really, skills didn’t work at all.

Yea and yesterday gandara had a que on their home border.
The que is thesame for everyone so the blobs are thesame on both sides.
And if you have some leet forces that can wipe a blob with 30 ppl the rest of the ppl on your border should have free game really

Well, EB is on their own, all other borders crashed

Coinin.2590:

Let’s all look at the real bonus to the WvW…Necro’s can now life-steal off of walls in WvW!!!

That’s just plain weird

Xoac kind of messed things up for themselves.
You are too big to come on another server unnoticed, you will unbalance a matchup with your presence. You also have done a number of serverhops recently so no other server really takes you seriously if you would join them next.
Your basically a guild without a homeserver atm.

Arrowcarts should still work.
Cause if AC’s cant hit rams behind the gate, then any other aoe shouldn’t be able to reach past a gate either, and if that was the case i’m sure it would have been in the patchnotes.

We’ll get to scrap a bunch of cata’s after the patch cause of this : Catapult damage no longer affects rams through gates.

Well, if Xoac do join us friday it seems this would be our last week with the same team of people that stuck trough the servers rough times and helped it climb back from T7 all the way to T4.
The week is not over yet, but i think we can say we do have a place in T4 afterall and are not just visitors, but i also know there is still baruch bay which is also supposed to be a T4/T3 server. So T4 is a bit overcrowded atm

Problem with Xoac joining is that we might end up in T3 and be massively outzerged during the day and would have to rely on night/morning capping too much to stay in the race

Well we aren’t exactly a brand new server in these tiers, we’re just making a silent comeback after a very long absence. Guess our current scores in T4 is kind of starting to make an impression on people.

Bieber would be if vabbi somehow made it from T9 to T1 in 3 weeks or something :p

Well everyone’s border got fubar today, i guess that means it was a good day

Yorric Hunt.8214:

Omg i love it, FSP hate [Xaoc] above all other guilds…… [Xaoc] have left GH and moved to FSP lmao. Sorry guys but i hope you enjoy them more than we did.

Got any proof of that?
It’s the first i hear about this and haven’t seen any xoac run around on our side, if anyone had they sure would have spread the word by now