Guild Wars 2

One d/d i find no problem, unless they are really skilled it’s usually a fair match, well until he runs away :p
They are extremely annoying though.
But d/d ‘s get exponentially worse the more you have in a group.
When there’s a whole squad of em that know what they are doing they just zoom around everywhere, no chance to even stop or kill one.

Dear fury, you will most likely never loose your elitist attitude, but i will give it a try anyway.

No need to belittle us by showing off you can hold bay for a few hours with an organised guild against pugs. You are not the only enemy on our border, we have to fight against GH aswell, so in fact you are only facing half our people.

We ourselves have been able to hold bay for a very long time against GH last week even with pugs and being outnumbered, it does not require godlike skills, only determination to only defend it and not do any offensive attacks.

And in case you haven’t noticed, we haven’t had that much people online today, good job boasting about your victories on our off day.

samski.5194:

maloki.3527:

No. I just explained why we dropped. Having good teams leave your server can be quite demoralizing.

I know mate i was only joking it wasn’t meant as a dig

Kaleygh.1524:

What are you going to do when they fix it ? Ragequit ? Leave for another guild ?
As for you farming FSP and “leveling your alts”

Could you please confirm that you read the link I provided regarding Veil ? If you missed it then here it is again

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Veil

If anything Anet fixing culling will help FURY as we have been victim to culling a few times.

Regarding the alts…..you tried to insult our low levels players first. If you arnt able to beat us with them in the raid then I’m not sure what you hope to achieve with a raid full of geared 80s ?

Anyway thanks for the fights tonight GH and FSP it’s been fun

Veil is actually creating culling for us in moments where everything was already loaded.
You run trough the veils and your models are wiped from our screen, when you attack you get to attack for 2 seconds while still being invisible because everything has to reload again. Not to mention the horrible framedrops of having to reload a 30ppl zerg again in the middle of a battle.
It’s fine if you use it to try and outflank a zerg bigger than you, but do you really find it necessary to use it against a 15ppl pug group when you have a 30ppl guild zerg?
It’s at moments like that that i really despise the use of meta tactics and guilds alltogether.

I sure as hell don’t want to go any further than tier5.
The amount of zerging is already reaching a sickening level.

It’s not that bad.
But the more you rise in tiers the more zergy and meta it will be offcourse.
I think aurora might be the first server in quite a while to match us in primetime, we’ve been spoiled the last 2 months of getting 400+ ticks

Seems like aurora has been busy at the reset

Was way too tired to do the reset this week after our fight for first place friday.
Looking forward to see how the week will progress.
GL to everyone

Neil.4360:

Winfernal.9208:

Svarty.8019:

Winfernal.9208:

So goooood!

Give me those conspiracy tears GH! We’re still not working together with millers.

No, but going for the weakest side is only sensible. I appreciate logic.

We were going for the lead. Would you do the same?

It is not FSP, I understand why you guys go for us, but why Millers has been interested in (inadvertantly I know but still) helping the bigger server to beat the underdog will escape me forever I think, did they think that they could catch FSP by stomping us too? What logic is that?!?! lol

I think GH did awesome to put up a fight as long as we did. We lost a lot of activity from Wednesday onwards but that only makes it more challenging and interesting, I’m sad to lose 1st place but it went to the deserving team in the end.

Besides 2nd isn’t 3rd… Miller’s… xD

I really don’t see how you can think millers stomped you guys.
If there was anyone that attacked your border/EB side and sacked your T3 keeps and towers it was us. Millars sometimes came after that happened to take those downgraded keeps and towers away from us.
And millars has been way more active on our border than on yours the last 3 days, and if they did show up on your border it was usually us that had to fight em off cause they capped the things we took from you.

And besides, you can hardly call yourself the underdog if you’ve been in the lead almost from start to finish :p
At the start of the week everyone actually expected you to stomp us and millars.

It’s not so much as for ganging up on the weakest side, it’s just that whoever is weaker will simply loose ground to both the other 2 servers while the other 2 are somewhat in a stale but also continue fighting eachother.
If you however simply look at it from map view you will feel like you’re the onlyone getting attacked because you’re the onlyone loosing ground.

The last 3 days GH and FSP have been focusing on eachother a lot simply for the fight for 1st place. Millars had the choice of who to attack, as noone really had a lot of intrest in their border, and when it came to borderlands millars was usually on ours, while we were on yours, and EB is the 3way fight i explained earlier.

Just make it so that there is a diminishing return in points you gain the more things you got capped.
That would make sure that a server holding 100% for 5 hours and does squat during the rest of the time cause they can easily defend T3 stuff , can not win from a server that holds 50% for 10 hours.
This would not discriminate between what timezone you play from, but would reward the most consistent server.

It’s gonna be a photo finish

Glitching and exploiting and all that happens on every server.
And there is very little we can do about it apart from reporting it.
It is frustrating and has been going on since the release of this game but is imo not even worth mentioning anymore, since all it does is discrediting a whole server for the actions of a few.
The only one who can stop this is Anet themselves.

Yes we had way less people yesterday for some reason, and we had to fight over 3 maps the whole day so we were stretched thin. I was at GH bay most of the time and we had the outnumbered buff the whole day untill our reinforcements came at around 21.00.
I really expected one of the 2 servers to just barge in with people and take bay, but i waited and waited, and nothing really happened :p
Well until in the evening where we broke many attacks but eventually had to acknowledge defeat against the persistent GH people.
When the outer wall was being trebbed and supply was running low we knew it was gonna be over, but we managed to stretch the fight for 2 more hours or so.

Anyway was a great fight, thx GH (and MS, yes you attacked bay too :p)
Let’s see what the last 10 hours bring.

Well, it appears we will get a second week of fighting again GH next week because of the cancellation of the ratings reset
server nr3 will most likely be aurora glade, unless abbadon’s decide to throw in the towel and not want to go to T4 next week.

I could conclude that you don’t have any people in EB.
You may have missed the little part about how MS had half of our map from 8 am till about 16.00 this afternoon.
We didn’t have any spare people to go and attack their border, except for a brief moment where we sacked their hills keep.

Svarty.8019:

Ironvos.9014:

Having not enough people to defend is no excuse right, thats how your nightcapping works

Everybody else got over this months ago. Why not you?

Try reading everything before you make personal remarks.

I was comparing our ‘strategies’ of using superior numbers when you have them available in response to Fab’s mention of us Rolfstomping your border yesterday, and trying to make us look like the boogieman while we actually do thesame to eachother at different timeperiods.

Actually we may stay in T5.
Not that that would be a good draw though, against riverside and desolation
And MS rating is improving aswell, they might get into T6 next week instead of T7.
And GH may go to T4 with FoW and Ranik, which with the current projections is better than T3

We had people on the MS border all day aswell you know, and they had people on our’s aswell.
They just defended their stuff better.
Having not enough people to defend is no excuse right, thats how your nightcapping works

Que’s everywhere, hope this get fixed soon.
I can only imagine what goes on in the higher tiers where they normally would have que’s even without the quebug.
It seems to get worse as the week progresses.

EasymodeX.4062:

Drawing Guy.3701:

Lets see…. cant count self shatter since if you were right next to them clones would insta shatter:

- dodge clone + dodge clone + weapon clone > 3
- mirror + decoy > 3 clones off queue
energy weapon and vigor should get you ready for:
- weapon swap then weapon clone + dodge clone + dodge clone > 3

so that is 3 + 3 + 3 + yourself = 10. The OP is correct. Anet should delete 9 out of every 10 Mesmers to even out game balance.

Use runes of the adventurer for more endurance. Gggggg.

And some sigils of energy and a bowl of orrian truffles.
You’ll be dodging around more than any circusact has ever done before.
Spawning clones every time, add in all the on clone death traits and you’ve got a nice thing going :p

VOLKON.1290:

Neandramathal.9536:

VOLKON.1290:

Time warp, Mass invis, 5 friendlies max get affected.

Mass Invis affects more than 5, have seen it cloak 9, never tried more.

I’ve used it in crowds, only 5 get the invis.

i tried it at siegebreaker once and it cloaked all 10 of us, think that is also the limit.
but it has a 90s cooldown and takes almost 2s to cast, easily interrupted

While searching for those hiding mesmers inside a keep, you are so thrilled when you find one, you walk upthere trying to flush him out.
Next thing you know you’re lying dead at the bottom of the cliff realizing you should have known about that GS #5.

2nd of 3rd don’t matter really.
It’s your end score that matters since that completely determines your ratings this week

Just hypothetically, not relating this to what really happens atm, it’s a nice even fight.
Imagine MS concentrated everything on FSP to get 2nd place, GH still goes on a roll and keeps getting more and more points ahead. MS ratings will continue dropping despite being second because GH gets a bigger and bigger lead.
Compared to, if MS would focus on GH, they may come in 3rd, but with a bigger rating than when they came in 2nd in the first situation simply because GH lead has diminished a lot.

If it were up to me id stick with the line “you don’t win 2nd place, you loose 1st place”

Anyway i really like the match this week, so keep it up all of you

It’s total war
Too bad it’s hard to make up for those points we loose at night and early morning

Only a WvW player will enjoy a close defeat more than an overwhelming victory

Since i doubt we will ever get this thread merged with our old thread that’s now inside the kaineng thread i have searched for our posts inthere and will be posting them here
they are in chronological order, can’t promise i found them all though, but iirc it had about 10 replies, so these should be it :p

Svarty.8019:

So… FP and MS seem to be sharing all our stuff between them, but some good scraps.

fab.3298:

Good luck everyone. We obviously shouldn’t be in this tier, but we’ll give you a good scrap whilst we’re here.

Ironvos.9014:

Don’t call it after 1 hour yet, the first restart hours tell nothing about how a server preforms over one week. I have a hunch you guys will have much better coverage due to the extra people xoac can commit in off peak hours.

spiritus.7983:

I think Gh is in the wrong tier ^^ probably tier 6 is more balanced for us

Ciuffo.6384:

Unless something happened to GH just before the restart I expect them to win, maybe not the landslide victory of the previous weeks but accoring to report, there is nothing we can do against off-peak ours PVD.

Still we will fight, we retook our border and performed decently in EB after facing a huge zerg from both MS and GH, up to the point that we faced 30ish GH on one side of the garrison and 30ish MS on the water door.
With some chances and a lot of determination the garrison did not fall.
After a while it seemed that MS went to GH, we preferred to consolidate our numbers in our BL.

See you tomorrow on the field of battle, again.

Sho.4287:

Just wanted to wish everybody happy fighting and bloody battles.

After seeing our opponents’ impressive rise through the ranks last matchup I’m happy we didn’t get steamrolled from the start tbh. I like the groove of this matchup so far, good mix of small-scale and zerg fights.

Kaleygh.1524:

We had some good fights, yet nothing was funnier than watching the Xaoc zerg wiping to a few people. They gave crap loot tho

Yorric Hunt.8214:

Was a lot of fun last night! There was a lot of hurt as well, though i think our group caused more wipes than we received. Dont know who the MS guild group we had a stare off with was [MiY] maybe. But im glad we didn’t engage you as you guys were organised and pro at staying balled up lol. Looking forward to the rest of the week. Cheers!

legolinho.6425:

Yorric Hunt.8214:

Was a lot of fun last night! There was a lot of hurt as well, though i think our group caused more wipes than we received. Dont know who the MS guild group we had a stare off with was [MiY] maybe. But im glad we didn’t engage you as you guys were organised and pro at staying balled up lol. Looking forward to the rest of the week. Cheers!

Hi there! Yeah we remember you guys. We are from the guild Menelya[Mya]. Was a funny night with some really good fights. We’ll see us again! Cheers!

TryGoogleThis.9570:

Well was a interestring and fun night, with some bumps along the way.

I been surprised how much focus MS put onto us, I mean any people with common sense would try and work together agienst a bigger number, The more they fight Us the less resistince GH going to meet from both FS and MS. But their Choice.

Was a rough 2 hours but we got our BL back, SM and a lil in GH BL, Unfortunely Xaoc arrived at 4.30 CET and screwed us up. Time for bed, See you on field later.

Kronos.3695:

Well, the fight in FS Borderlands it’s been very funny for the whole night.

Good luck everyone for this week!

Ironvos.9014:

Seems like this is an gonna be an interesting week.
I think we are in the right tier now and are meeting our match in GH and Millers.
Could still go either way, but GH is very strong in the morning as we expected, but it’s not as horrible as we might have feared the last weeks
Let’s enjoy it while it lasts, its very likely we will all be meeting some T3-T1 servers next week and get spanked :P

No, a mod has merged our threads inhere for some reason, scroll up you’ll see

Weird my link goes to the wrong thread now

Lol, seems like one of the mods might still have a hangover, he/she merged our thread with the US T3 thread

Seems like this is an gonna be an interesting week.
I think we are in the right tier now and are meeting our match in GH and Millers.
Could still go either way, but GH is very strong in the morning as we expected, but it’s not as horrible as we might have feared the last weeks
Let’s enjoy it while it lasts, its very likely we will all be meeting some T3-T1 servers next week and get spanked :P

The thread is overhere
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/GH-v-MS-v-FS/first#post1356379

I agree aswell, in EU everyone is at his right tier, all that’s left is arborstone to drop a few more, but that would have happened after this week anyway.

Don’t call it after 1 hour yet, the first restart hours tell nothing about how a server preforms over one week. I have a hunch you guys will have much better coverage due to the extra people xoac can commit in off peak hours.

Our midtiers were very close in ratings with eachother, thats why such a large jump ( and large drops from BT and AS) are possible.
In the US all tiers are very far apart in ratings.

Why isn’t there any ?
Is it intentionally or merely an oversight ?

It would be a nice addition to the community corner section.
And it may keep off topic discussions out of the other forums cause people would have a suitable place to have those discussions

Yes it has always been shredding.
And i prefer them to keep it that way, who knows changing that tooltip may introduce new bugs :p

Ssst, our powers must remain a secret, or we shall get nerfed again.
We must intentionally gimp ourselves to not make the mundanes feel like we could threaten them for world domination

But yea mesmers can solo certain champions, we are quite good at kiting and slowly whittling down the hp of the target.
In pve we are however usually the worst when it comes to killing things, but we are the best at surviving, a good mesmer with knowledge of the enemies and good awareness is near immortal in pve

Staff + s/p is a very classic weaponset, easy to use and versatile.
The staff provides with good defensive abilities, the sword gives you melee damage, a leap and 2s invul from blurred frenzy, and the pistol has a nice ranged phantasm and a nice CC skill in magic bullet.

And lvl 40 is really only the beginning, you start to have some nice traits now that can change your skills. By lvl 80 you will have all the juicy stuff and you will keep learning a lot by playing the mesmer. Don’t be afraid to experiment a lot, switch weapons and traits every 10 lvls or so and try them out.
Early on i also don’t recommend shattering too much, your clones and phantasms will give some distractions that increase your survivability which is something you can still lack at the earlier lvls.

And yes, (sylvari) mesmers are awesome

The OP did say “after the reset and once the ladders are settled”

Gunnars won’t be T2.
T4, maybe T3, they haven’t been tested yet.
We will give them a kick in the family trinkets next week to see what they are really up to

Zaxares.5419:

Xandax.1753:

In fact the original NwN was meant as a method of bringing PnP RP into the computer age – that it didn’t …. well, that was more to do with poor implementation from Bioware.

To be fair, NWN1 had incredibly longevity with the amount of player-created mods and adventures (some of which were actually superior to the OC created by Bioware). The DM client was also a revolutionary breakthrough for cRPGs at the time, something which I think no other cRPG has succeeded in surpassing since then.

Indeed.
In a time when mmo’s were not yet mainstream the fact that it supported custom made player operated ‘mmo’ worlds, without monthly fee was very nice.
Well it wasn’t really an massivemo, max 96 ppl / server i think.
But that was still a lot since the worlds were not that huge as real mmo’s.

Just a champion of Jormag.
If that was Jormag himself all norn and kodan would be dancing in the snow out of joy after defeating it

I like the fact that this time they didn’t tell us everything that was gonna happen.
It actually feels like you’re in the story, and not reading a book after you already read the summary and know the plot twists.

I loved NWN from bioware.
Was such a great game with all the mods and player run online worlds.

But this just looks weird, sure the gfx are nice but its all too flashy and action oriented.
I want my D&D games to be dark, atmospheric and story driven.

There are meta events in all zones, even the starting zones, so as early as say lvl 10 you can do those, like the behemoth in queensdale, or the elemental at metrica province, etc.
But they aren’t always active, some meta’s have known triggers, some are on a timer, some are random or unknown.

Reztek.7805:

Blackwyn.8127:

I started this game in Desolation. A very strong server back then and lots of confidence. That was till they faced Vizunah. During the day, Desolation were superior. But then came the night for the very first time vs Vizunah and BAM. You wake up to Vizunah having capped 95% of everything.

That ruined the motivation and Desolation slowly crumbled.

My friend then told me about a guild and wanted me to join them. They were located in Far Shiverpeaks back then and so I transferred. Not long after, other guilds bandwagoned it and made it an extremely strong server. Taking it all up to T1.

Desolation was in the beginning never as good as any of the top 3 servers: Far Shiverpeaks, Riverside and Vizunah. Wonder how you fought all your way up to T1 with FSP, sounds more like WTJ. Desolation made it to T1 just because of night capping NA guilds. Same goes for Blacktide (though less NA, more bandwaggoners), which is the best example for the kind of players who hop from server to server. They ruined FSP and BT. SFR and PS are about to follow. Oh, and project Vabbi was awesome!

FSP didn’t get ruined
We dropped tiers yes but that is not the end of the world, we are a decent midtier server now.
It’s not like what happens to AR and BT now, check our history, we never had any walkovers or anything. We still had a lot of people, but all the organizing and veteran wvw guilds left, so it was up the to pugs, fresh recruits and the few veteran players left to build it up again, which took some time.
As an FSP player i can only be glad about what happened against Vizu back then, it dropped us out of the zergfest and allowed me to enter wvw, the first month there were only que’s que’s and more que’s

Interesting, cause of all the d/c people are having lately they would get kicked to the character select screen while maybe still be counted as being in the wvw map.

Oh and all the people that get kicked for inactivity also go straight to the character select from the wvw map.

Astralporing.1957:

Ironvos.9014:

Honestly, the prices are around one month for a ring+infusion, all you have to do is play the game casually and you get it for free, nothing has been nerfed by the arrival of laurels, they are an addition.
That one month looks like a grind now cause everyone already has lvl 80’s and most are in full exotics. But for a new player, by the time he gets lvl80 and exotics he will already have a nice pile of laurels (unless your do powerlvling and twinking).

Oh, please. It certainly didn’t take you 3 months (2 rings and amulet) to get to level 80 on your first char, right? And for any next character it will be even faster…
Doing it this way seriously discourages people from playing more than one char, or to experiment with their builds. It is a clear message – “pick one char, one build, and stick with it forever”.
This is actually in many ways worse than having them accessible only in fractals (because it’s now even less likely we’ll get a sensible alternate way to get them).

I said lvl 80 and exotics, not just lvl 80.

And if you think this forces people to only play one character and one build, then you are seriously overestimating the need for ascended items.
Really only a minority of people cares about those items, only the few hardcore grinders and dungeon runners want them that badly to have that few % more stats so they can shave off a few minutes from their dungeon runs.
Those ascended items have negligible effects on wvw, open pve and not even usuable by pvpers. These laurels give those people a longterm option to get these items if they want to without the need to do stupid fractals.

Honestly, the prices are around one month for a ring+infusion, all you have to do is play the game casually and you get it for free, nothing has been nerfed by the arrival of laurels, they are an addition.
That one month looks like a grind now cause everyone already has lvl 80’s and most are in full exotics. But for a new player, by the time he gets lvl80 and exotics he will already have a nice pile of laurels (unless your do powerlvling and twinking).

I don’t do fractals, i did lvl1 when they came out and said goodbye to them.
Ascended gear is of no importance to me, i play mainly wvw and i’m not even in full exotics since i don’t have the cash for em anyway, my trinkets are still rare.
In only one month i will get a free ascended ring/amu, and i won’t have to grind for it or do anything in the game that i don’t want to, i don’t even have to pay any gold for it at all.

If you are in this game just for the items you will be very disappointed.
GW2 doesn’t require you to grind anymore than you want to, a character in rare’s is just as viable as one in exotics + ascended gear, the latter only has a small advantage when players are equally skilled, otherwise skill>items.

I have been thinking about that too this week.
I don’t know exactly how many people can be on a wvw map, but sometimes the que’s seem odd.
Once i’ve seen the que pop up when i wanted to go to my own borderland, even though all that we had lost there was one tower to a breakout, and i can be pretty sure we didn’t have a 60man zerg there just to take it back cause we had more intense fights on the other borders at that moment. About 10 mins later the que was gone, the tower was still in enemy hands and there was just one commander with about 20/30 ppl there.

If i’m gonna die anyway, i just press 2 out of curiosity.

But if it’s totally random anyway i would like it to work without needing a target, just to troll those stealthstomp thieves

Why not a combo of population + tier.
Medium = 400
High = 700
Very high = 1000

T9 = 0
T8= 100 ( 0 if we use us tiers)
.
.
T1=800 (700 is we use us tiers)

A very high T1 server would cost 1800
In case of Piken, medium T3, would still cost 1000
More expensive than a high T9/T7.

It would not solve all problems, but seeing as most serverhopping is probably wvw related, and is also the easiest to get unbalanced when serverhopping occurs, i think tiers should contribute in the transfer price.
Noone cares if a 300ppl pve guild joins, they are spread over many many maps, and with guesting pve population will be mixed up anyway.

EsLafiel.4517:

The Mesmer, one on the gs and one of the staff and that is all. None of the others are ground aoes.

Focus also has a ground aoe.
And for utility there’s nullfield, blink and timewarp.