Guild Wars 2

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I feel sorry for the vabbi people.
say goodbye to your days of small scale wvw.
say hello to big zergs, lots of lag and culling and lots of metagaming.

And the added annoyance of having to deal with yet another rising tier server that will screw up matches in the lower tiers.
You’re probably trying to achieve a similar thing to what warmachine is doing with kaineng in the NA tiers.

pahldus.1678:

Ironvos.9014:

They can also just move sideways instead of backwards and still hit you

Oh and they can’t do this to all the other AoEs? That is simply not a valid argument in the least.

Well since in gw2 you can move and cast at thesame time it doesn’t really hamper the enemy on the walls of putting out damage to the people below.
Our aoe’s simply don’t cause a threat to anyone on a wall to make em dodge or run backwards to heal up, downing anyone is out of question :p

I’m not here to complain about our wvw abilities, we are great in 1v1 and small gangs.
But you honestly cant say a mesmer is any threat to people defending on a wall.

They can also just move sideways instead of backwards and still hit you

Yea well it may be able to hit the top of the wall, chaos storm and feedback, but if they actually do anything usefull is a different matter.

Chaos storm barely does damage and has a small aoe, even if people get hit by it most they will do is walk a few meters to go out of it.
And feedback will usually do thesame, ranged attacker sees the bubble and may shoot once or twice and move out of the bubble.

Oh yea and there is temporal curtain, but as has been mentioned earlier, this doesn’t work aswell anymore as a few months ago, people now know they shouldn’t stand on the edge of the wall blasting their attacks down.

Then we’re back to dodging arrowcarts like a circusact :p

I really had to think before i remembered what ether bolt was.
Seems like it’s been a while i equipped a scepter

Same here. Glad to know it’s not just me.

Well my usual siege routine goes like this.
Chaos storm on the rams or golems bashing the door, feedbackbubble where appropriate, and try to pull someone off the wall if i’m not too lazy to switch my offhand.
Then 20 seconds of dodging arrowcarts and making our zerg look bigger with the dodgeclones :p

Well i suspect that either their carts had been aoe’d down already.
Or they built arrowcarts inside the breakout bubbles and take the towers carts down.

It’s mainly a problem for defending towers, they just destroy all siege inside.
And it doesn’t just happen in tier1.
I’ve been on the recieving end of it in tier7 aswell, luckily only once.

Keep it away from FSP if the intent is to go wvw.
I don’t want that kind of cheapness on our server.

I’ve started to do some boonsharing recently.
With the change to signet of inspiration i’ve now got it slotted all the time.
Combined with rune of lyssa, when i pop my mass invis, i activate the signet and Everyone around me gets every boon in the game for about 4 seconds.
Its really usefull for smallscale wvw to do a quick push into the other team.

I respect duels if i clearly see it’s a duel, unless i see the enemy is a thief, then i just attack them no questions asked.

Aberrant.6749:

Krispera.5087:

Shatter is not all the mesmer have left, people are just copy pasting an easy and effective build, then get used to it.

But yeah, we all know it is coming.

Yea sorry mesmers also have portals and time warp. My bad.

There is more than that.
Just look at FLIMPY his vids for example.
He even uses a scepter and torch, 2 generally considered underpowered mesmer weapons.

Yes its amazing how you survive all that.
When i get caught by 5+ ppl i usually just get primaried and dps’ed down in a matter of seconds.
Decoy and mass invis help little cause of all the channeled attacks that still hit me anyway.
Only with lowbies or really dumb ppl do i pull off stunts like that when outnumbered 3/5:1
But i can’t say i’m a great pvper anyway, i know im just an average player.
Still i like your vids

Just laugh at people playing thiefs.
They are just playing easy mode afterall.
Their weaponskills don’t even have cooldowns

Offcourse combining skilled players with easymode makes for quite an unbalanced combination, but luckily most just spam their skills and die.

The more you play your mesmer the more tricks you will learn.
There are so many combinations with weapons and traits that totally make your character play different.
No 2 mesmers you see are really thesame.

Those 3 points your brought up are all valid and we also feel them as a limitation, just read the countless topics about our slow movement.
Tagging mobs can be difficult, especially in big farmzergs in orr, i get the best out of my skills in a farmgroup under 7 ppl, stay away from the big zergs.
Our most potent aoe’s are shatters, as they are the only aoe we have that does any decent damage.
Then we have some pseudo aoe’s like chaos storm, feedback, mindstab, and some bounce skills, these are very situational and you can’t just throw em somewhere and hope it hits someone.

And why things get better at 40.
Well iirc (its been a while :p ) thats when you can get your second skillbook and open up master traits.
There are some nice ones inthere, and it allows you to specialize more.
Since a mesmer is not about raw damage but usually about creating chaos in the battlefield, we need all those traits that do add some special abilities to our character or skills.

All in all, mesmer is really fun and diverse to play, we got a bit of everything and nice utilities, it takes a while to become good with a mesmer and get the feeling, i still learn every day.
But there are also people that just hate to play a mesmer for the same reasons we like to play them.
It’s all really a personal thing, all i can say is, keep playing and maybe you’ll find it was worth it

Well that’s how a three way battle goes, you always fight against 2 at once, but so do the others, so in a perfect balanced fight you fight against 1/2 the force of both opponents

But usually when one side gets weakened a bit by another, the third smells blood and jump in the fight aswell. There’s nothing fishy about it, we fight everyone with equal joy :p

It will have been a great 2 weeks for us on fsp, 2 wins in a row (barring any disasters the last 2 days) , that hasent happened since the 1day matchups anymore iirc.

Next week we will loose RoF unfortunatly for the germans of Dzagonur, but i’m looking forward to see how they handle the fight. Hopefully it will be another good week we’ll see.

I’ll keep an eye out for any.
What is the uw AA guild’s full name?

I don’t think they have, i’ve seen a few of them in the defense of bay on your border an hour ago.
And afaik i haven’t seen them on our server.
Offcourse that doesn’t rule out a transfer could have happenend or will happen.

We are as surprised about it as you are honestly.
Didn’t expect to log on and see 400 points ticking in our favour.

It is true that the focus is very versatile, and i like using it much more now.
But the pistol is very straightforward in its use.
And i can not count anymore how many times i’ve managed to actually kill all those pesky classes that are much faster than me cause i could stop em from running with pistol #5

I would prefer the skill to have a shorter casttime.
Maybe compensated with a smaller aoe range.
Ive ‘buffed’ my mass invisibility by using runes of lyssa.
I used to almost never use the skill cause it was such a long casttime for only 5s of invis.
with lyssa you purge all conditions and get all boons for 5sec, this makes mass invis pretty powerfull and i now pop it a lot in battle, saved my skin plenty of times.

Great fights are still going on.
We fought for hours now against uw on our borderland (fsp)

And both rof and uw are now inside the outer wall of our T2 reinforced sm.
Don’t think this will be over very soon, people keep pouring in from everywhere

Give it time dude, weekends are always crazy, and this weekend is even more special.
We are only 24h into the match and scores aren’t out of proportion.
UW did a great job in gathering people to turn just about every map blue this morning.
All we had left was our keep in EB and the 2 towers next to it, 5 ppl defending with an atleast 20 UW big zerg around. RoF’s story was similar at this hour, UW had about 500-550 points ticking atleast for a few hours.
Everytime we went knocking on one of our former tower doors the whole zerg came back, was pretty funny so we started trebbing things.

So basically for the start of the afternoon the whole of our borderlands was made of wood, hard to defend.
But atm things look better for fsp.

This will be a crazy match again by the looks of it

Ever since last weekend i can’t get this out of my head.

Well we started out ahead the first 2 hours or so, then uw and rof started to invade our bl simultaneously so we got pushed back.
Then we all got kicked at 04.40 or so for a new build.
Total points will be even again soon, we have to retake a lot of stuff, but hey atleast capping pays the bills ey :p
Us (fsp) are lacking a bit again in the later hours of this reset as last week.
We’ll see how it evolves.

Having a class like the thief who is clearly made to gank people is pretty much a death sentence to having this game open to casual players.
Sure you forumwarriors will say omg noob l2p and all that.
I can kill thieves thats not the problem, and if i dont kill em the first time they will prolly die one of the next times they keep reappearing after failing yet another assasination attempt, it is however very annoying and unrewarding.

But not everyone has the time to keep up with every fotm thiefbuild that will be around just to come gank them after biweekly patches.
I have no problem with there being a thief/rogue/assassin type of class, but surely they can make the class something fun to play against instead of the fights just being reduced to a diceroll.

Even though you may want to, you cant blame anyone for outnumbering the other, otherwise the scores would be very different.
Our server had a brief succes in tier4 where we won 5 weeks ago, but after that it was really a freefall and wvw guilds left everywhere.
Back then we could still muster a 40ppl zerg in the middle of the night.
Now we can be happy if we get 5 ppl together to raid camps or take a wooden tower somewhere, on an very good night we may have 10ppl on and go for something larger.

With the way things go atm i think us getting ahead is mainly due to morale being better, people want to log into wvw again cause now they wont get slaughtered if they step out of the spawn for 100 metres.
People log on more, and they are willing to stay in wvw longer aswell cause they are having fun.
Thats whats going on on fsp atm, no fancy big wvw guilds anywhere atm :p

There are abusers and exploiters on every side.
So no server has the right to have a holier than thou attitude.
While you may be outraged and wish to blame the whole server for the misbehavings of a few people, i think you know very well that these are not actions that are supported by the other players on the server, so pls do report them if its clear the exploit, we want them gone just as much as you.

Now pls get back to the match so mods don’t lock this thread.
That would totally ruin the mood and do more harm that good.

Well i have one very simple solution.
Reduce cooldown on blink.

This is my hybrid build i use.
It is still a work in progress though, still havent got exotics and the right stats to make my build complete.

The traits and skills are in the link.
The stats would end up at about
1500 power
1900 prec
1600 toughness
1050 vit
950 cond damage
+60% condition duration
50% critical change

using shaperning stones and veggie pizza as consumable buffs.
It is a very versatile build, i’m doing great in wvw even with the weaker version of this build atm, been using it for about 3 weeks now.
some traits i do switch around a lot.

like the first trait on domination, clones cripple, or +15% illusion damage, or +20% mind wack damage, its only 10 points spent for a lot of versatility.
Switch some traits around and you got a great pve kite/condition/shatter build.

Defending a tower or keep in wvw? get descent into madness, and the 2 traits in the illusion line to buff your glamour fields, throw down glamour fields as aoe attack.
And jump down infront of the gate, instant chaos storm, do blurred frenzy mirror image shatter and dodge or blink back to safety to the door.

And at meta events to face champions or bosses, select the traits that boost your phantasms, 15% illision damage, fury, 20% recharge, 3%damage/illusion (dont know if this also boosts the phantasm damage).

Anyway, id love to see how a good pvp/wvw player would do with this build.
Im just an average joe that doesnt even use hotkeys for skills and i still cause a lot of mayhem wherever i walk :p

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgUQNAW8alwzipXVzpGbNJipCBHqHXX29dkKUalUYbXIA;TYAqiMFJKyWkrIZRA

Confusion is for wvw/pvp, bleeds and burning and all that is for pve.
But confusion has its uses against fast attacking npcs.
I’m having a blast using confusionbombs on our new friend commander siegerazer.

For the sake of being versatile, dont stack everything into condition damage, get some extra power instead, it makes both your 2 first shatters usefull in every situation.
1000 condition damage is more than enough.

Every servers seems to get his moment of glory everyday where they dominate for a few hours, its nice to see.
Between last night and early morning all 3 borderslands were whiped completely in a few hours by different factions, well, exept for our one tower on our bl where we had a last stand
Thats a lot of upgrades down the drain :p

And EB has the mentality, you invade me, i invade you when your busy invading the other guy, no destruction of upgrades goes unpunished

Don’t reconize the guild tag, do you have the guilds full name?
Anyway i’m sure that neither UW or FSP supports such actions.
There are always a minority of people outthere ruining the game for the majority.

Well i think everyone has similar stories, except for the naked stuff maybe :p
I always promote fair fights, 1vs1 , 2vs1 if needed. or 1+npcs vs 3 or something like that.
I have been ganked a lot by people not looking for a nice fight, maybe they were just in gankmode or had something else to do and i was just in their way, i’ll never know.

But i also had some very nice fights already the whole weekend.
Yesterday i saw an RoF and UW thief have a duel, was just watching from a distance, untill an RoF guardian came to mess up the duel, so i went in, killed the guardian and continued watching :p
Didnt see who won though, they were stealthing everywhere so i gave up eventually and went on with roaming.

Well if you’ve been in higher tiers you wouldn’t call any of this heavy zergs :p
I’m glad those times are over, my skills now activate when i want them to, and i can use more than the basic graphics.
And i can go visit more quiet parts of the maps for some smallgang pvp or 1vs1’s

It has been a lot of back and forth pushing so far.
And i think this is very evenly matched, it’s still anyone’s game.

I think the main problem with this is, why buff shatterbuild?
Sure the buff is nice, i don’t complain about a buff, but for other builds a buff was much more needed.
Now even more people will run a shatterbuild, and everyone will learn how to counter them, turning our once so diverse class into a onetrick pony.

Maybe everyone should just have his perma swiftness removed.
This arms race will never stop otherwise.
There is already a difference in movement speed between combat and non combat.

Munkee.3542:

Ironvos.9014:

Mesmer Portal: The Mesmer utility skill Portal now has a maximum # of times it can be used before it disappears. This means that 1 Mesmer can no longer send an infinite # of allies through a portal. The current # is 20, which may come down more later. We still want the Mesmers to feel cool for having such a powerful ability, but we also want to put a limit on the # of players a defending team needs to worry about coming out of 1 Mesmer Portal, especially in WvW.

Way to drop the hammer on the Mesmer’s biggest use in WvW. Slowed em down and nerfed Portal making Mesmers Mr. Irrelevant in WvW for the most part.

Well you can still port 20 people, odds are there will atleast be one or two other mesmers in that zerg that can put down an extra portal for the rest.

some extra stuff from the second and third patchnote post.

Mesmer Portal: The Mesmer utility skill Portal now has a maximum # of times it can be used before it disappears. This means that 1 Mesmer can no longer send an infinite # of allies through a portal. The current # is 20, which may come down more later. We still want the Mesmers to feel cool for having such a powerful ability, but we also want to put a limit on the # of players a defending team needs to worry about coming out of 1 Mesmer Portal, especially in WvW.

Class balance philosophies
We normally try to employ metered and controlled balance changes with each pass, rather than huge reductions or improvements to classes. We want to get all classes on the same playing field, and we want to avoid “whack-a-mole” style balance. HUGH increases and HUGE decreases lead to meta instability, and thusly, we try to make multiple small tweaks rather than putting in massive changes that we have to later correct. (reword this section)
When designing and balancing the classes, we try to make sure that class roles and identities stay intact. So, in doing so, we make sure that there are rules and boundaries outlining the capabilities and weaknesses of each class.

Mesmers rely on illusions in order to accomplish their goals. They need illusions to accomplish some of their highest damage and control, and without the illusions, they become fairly fragile. They can deal with enemy boons better than most classes, but enemy conditions can often be a problem. They share some of the stealth and mobility that the Thief enjoys, but suffer from a low health pool if you get past all their tricks.

just wondering what they did with the phantasms, damage now matches the tooltip.
so did they change the damage or the tooltip?

I honestly wouldn’t be that surprised if one these did in some way make it to the real patch notes

It would be easier if they just adjusted the lvl scaling a bit.
A lvl80 in exotics, or even without exotics just cruises trough lower lvl areas.
Scale down must be steeper so things remain a challange.
Added to this, loot and event rewards should be depending on character lvl, not area lvl.

That way lvl 80’s can go fight in other areas and still get their drops and still have a ‘challange’ similar to orr.

And meta (world) events should be visible on the map for the whole world, or atleast the maps neighboring the map with the event, that will draw in more people.

If you are gonna split the world in normal and hard mode normal mode is gonna get totally deserted eventually, which is bad for new people starting the game.

-Phase retreat now ports you in a random direction as intended.

-Removed exploit where iWarlock could do massive damage on targets with a lot of conditions, extra damage has been capped to 3 conditions.

-Phantasmal disenchanter now has his damage removed and curing condition has a 50% chance.

-Removed a typo from ‘mirror images’, it now reads ‘mirror image’ and only spawns one clone.

-Phantasmal defender hp reduced by 50%

-Illusion of life now also kills downed enemies, but they are revived after 15s if they have no conditions on them.

-Phantasmal warden now spins in the opposite direction as intended.

Dummies don’t move.
For this trait to work the enemy must step out/in the aoe ring.
So when you throw feedback on some people in wvw for example their first reaction would be to step out of the bubble, then they get 1 stack of confusion on them, if they would step back in they get another stack, etc.

Combining this trait with glamour fields blind + confusion on blind can make those glamour fields even more nasty.
Throwing feedback + nullfield+ chaos storm on a bunch of people attacking a tower/keep can show some nice numbers flying
But it won’t kill anyone unless they are low on health, it will make them step back for a while though to heal back up.

korelg.7862:

WARNING: playing a mesmer might cause extreme boredom when playing another class.

It’s very true and unfortunate at thesame time.
Tried making 2 other chars to get skins from the 2 other orders, but after a month i haven’t gotten past lvl 6 with them yet.
With the guardian i keep running around and dodging and trying to find the blink button out of habit, people must think i’m crazy when they see me play :p

You can do a lot of amazing things with a mesmer, the bigger the difficulties the more tricks you will shake out of your sleeve.
In the beginning you might not kill things as fast as some other (simple) classes that just autoattack trough the lower levels, but you will have a lot of fun while playing and learning all your skills.
I actually liked my low lvls very much, i miss them
But offcourse i like my current level 80 aswell. Being able to solo trolling and kill champions and coming out of the fight without a scratch is quite satisfying.
Usually in meta events you are gonna be one of the people that remains alive and haven’t been downed 5 times in 5 minutes because as a mesmer you learn to avoid damage altogether instead of relying on mitigation, that really helps when facing big baddies that throw out a lot of damage.

But not everyone likes a mesmer, so the only way you will know is to just make one and play like you’ve never played before

Well, although i’ve said this of the previous tiers aswell, i do think tier7 should really be our minimum here, the differences seem to be quite big now in the lower tiers. AG is rolling tier7 and i do think they are not that much stronger or weaker than the rest in tier6, so tier7 should stop our freefall.
Problem is that even though we fight well with what we have, everytime we drop a tier some guilds leave, making that we can not stabilize and are always outnumbered again even in the lower tier.
Had no guilds left after we dropped from tier4 we certainly would have been able to hold ourself in tier5, and reverse this negative spiral.

Anyway, i will remain fighting for FSP nomatter what the odds are.

TabMorte.5297:

5. never pay to teleport to Lion’s Arch or any major city -> hop to WvW and use the portal from here (this can save you up to half a gold a day).

Actually, no need to go wvw, it could have a queues and takes a while to load.
Just hop in the pvp lobby in the mists and run towards the LA portal a little further.