Guild Wars 2

KinkyWarrior.1879:

As stated before by my colleague Rookni, Gandaran Real Estates limited is intending to sell this Pristine peice of Garrison property in the Far Shiverpeaks area of the world with access to a beautiful lake with its very own Quaggan populace and a beautiful view of two scenic towers to the east and west.

It also comes with a free state of the art, homemade ‘windows’ which allow a beautiful view of the surrounding scenery. Pictures can be found in the following scrapbook.

http://imgur.com/S65OMRG,zYnRiiC,V1wPSj1
http://imgur.com/S65OMRG,zYnRiiC,V1wPSj1#1
http://imgur.com/S65OMRG,zYnRiiC,V1wPSj1#2

Edit: I must also ask; How can you beat us so hard at the weekend but we ‘normally tick 300-350’ :O?

Edit 2: All credit to [YaK] for the diy efforts on our real estate.

You were so busy rearranging the furniture that you lost your whole home border in the process

KinkyWarrior.1879:

Welcome to Gandara on the Weekdays Far Shiverpeaks, Ag has fought this beast before so they were prepared.

Keep it up Far Shiverpeaks and Aurora Glade fun matchup thus far <3

Despite being prepared for what was to come, AG isn’t exactly doing that much better than we are atm
And it’s not that bad really, you usually have around 300-350 ppt, sounds reasonable keeping in mind you are really a T3 server. Would have been horrible if you didn’t up your game after such a weekend :p

If you are ramming you can get thrown trough that gate at sunny when it is being cata’s from inside the tower. Happens quite often actually.
No idea what the real cause of it is, but i’ve seen it happen many times before.

I think we hurt them too much during the weekend

Immolator.5640:

Okay I’ll admit numbers and I have a difficult relationship – I call things how I see them, and when you’re rolling through and enemy Zerg for 5 seconds and more are emerging from the culling field, there’s no way it’s under 50 :P There was a VoS Commander there, so you can ask him maybe. Your Borderland is not a fun place to be.

Like I said, you guys are squishy, most every guild here can testify to that, and I know for sure our numbers 26 + a few pugs were beating large FS zergs around 1:00amGMT, if you don’t believe me Xiao, i’ll record it for you next time :P take your insults back from whence you came, we’re Gandarans, and we’re here to stay.

I won’t lie that I approximate a lot and at times badly, but I was in no way attempting to troll, you guys always run with a helluva lot of people, we were spotted anywhere we went, (on your borderlands) and then later on in the night the same, [TMA] guys just live on those arrow carts, very irritating I think LXY have some contenders.

If we were really all that squishy as you claim we are, you would think that a bunch of gandara + AG guildzergs would have gotten a bit further into our border than just hills and the 2 outbreak towers. The keeps and towers weren’t even all T3 yet until a few hours ago.
The numbers isn’t an excuse anymore if you yourself are pushing 2 30ppl zergs around our border.

We also always run with atleast 2 main zergs when a border is nicely filled, the only place where i could believe you if you ever saw a 70ppl megablob is maybe in EB cause the playerlimit seems higher and its easier to cover everything with one zerg if you don’t overextend.

Don’t think it is the same golemrush.
The one where we wiped all those AG golems in the lordroom was around 3am or something, that screen shows it being 6pm.

70ppl blobs? i bet you saw a unicorn in there aswell

At hills north inner you can place an AC against the gate and aim inside trough the gap above the gate. I wasn’t there but 9/10 someone complains about that, the enemy used that tactic.

MartyPartys.9187:

Mangopersikka.9713:

I have a feeling that we will do just fine in Tier 4. One day and we have already made AGs finest so mad to try golem rushing after failing a few solid pushes on our bay not to mention the state of their entire bl.

I’ve seen very good small-scale warfare from a few guilds already on both Gandara and AG. Looking forward to seeing more of these fights.

Aurora Glade almost has no coverage in the weekends and I believe it’s the same for Gandara. I hope you guys will like it in tier 4 and keep fighting.

Don’t underestimate us yet, or else you might fall back to tier 5 again (we all know baruch wants to come back to where they belong).

So far Im a bit dissapointed in the matchup, I expected alot of great fights, but we didn’t get alot. Im glad AoA was there at reset, because that was about it.

I was really looking forward facing both of your servers, gandara for all the great guilds (which haven’t showed themselves alot yet) and FSP because of the fighting spirit.

Have to admit with the others that FSP is a bit more like riverside now since last time we faced them. Your own style was way more fun last matchup.

To XxX: We’re waiting for you.

I hope this is going to be a great matchup, because BB and RS were boring as hell.

Yea i’m sure you liked the last matchup a lot more since you were farming our pugs in our own border with 2 30ppl guildzergs

And really, it would be foolish of us to overextend ourselves against you two servers. We don’t have a lot of big guilds who can put 30ppl zergs on the field every day, we are a pug server for the most part.

I think the reason why we may look defensive to you (even though i’ve done a lot of field work the last 24h already) is exactly because we don’t underestimate you.
Last time we met we got our kitten handed to us cause we had no idea what to expect, now we do, that makes a big difference.

I know you are, the golem rushes i just talked about happened about 5 mins after i posted here.
But whatever turns red is just another thing we can turn blue again :p

Wouldn’t want our border to look like AG’s ey
I think people are a bit more cautious this week because we are in T4 and on paper we should be the weakest of the 3 servers.
And we’ve grown wary of golemrushes, leave the keep unguarded for half an hour and there will be 5 golems hitting the gate in no time :p
Especially now with the change to the orange swords everything is vulnerable to ninja caps.

After 17 weeks, back in T4
It will be a good test for us.

Keep it clean and have fun

swinsk.6410:

Ironvos.9014:

And maybe thieves should have waited until the update actually happened before whining about hypothetical situations.

I think this video speaks for itself. I’ll let you judge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCUvIrH2BlU

The thief conversation starts at 57:30.

I’ve seen the video, and there is barely concrete information in it, only vague talk about what will come. In most of the interview the dev’s gave the impression that they aren’t even very sure about what changes they will make and when they will happen.

There has been more than a week of whining from thieves now about the reveal after stealth they mentioned. Something that hasen’t even been implemented yet and where at best you can speculate about what effect it will have.
You’ll have to wait for the patchnotes to know what really changed and test it ingame.

And maybe thieves should have waited until the update actually happened before whining about hypothetical situations.

As a mesmer you keep on learning, 123 hours really isn’t that much yet, even after 1300 hours you still find new tricks and combo’s

I first also thought the melee sword was an odd choice for the mesmer, since we are supposed to be pretty squishy and being in melee would get you killed.
But the nice thing is that the main sword skill is blurred frenzy, and using it makes you invulnerable, so that fixes the squishyness issue somewhat.
You must also not use the sword the same way as a warrior or guardian would.
The key is that you must make use of your (often bugged) leap skill as a gap closer and immobilizer before using blurred frenzy.
You can however do more than that, since your enemy is immobilized you can also try and hit him with some shatters. You can hit mirror images and mind wrack for a quick shatter.
If you are zerker specced , the blurred frenzy + shatter combo can do a lot of burst damage
After the blurred frenzy you usually step back again, either by dodging or using staff#2, or stomp the enemy in case you are in wvw/pvp

You should take a look at Osicat his shattercat thread, its a sticky at the top of this mesmer forums, and shows how deadly a sword can be in the right hands.

Anyone got a picture of it?
Can’t remember it anymore, it’s been 7 months afterall.

For the mesmer, the staff actually fits in almost every build.
If you have a power/prec build, you will do decent damage with your auto attack, especially with the bounce trait, and your warlock will hit like ton of bricks when it crits.
If you have a condition build, your clones and you will do a lot of damage trough the constant application of burn and bleeding, and that’s just the auto attack.

The main point of having the staff however is it’s defensive abilities. Chaos storm is a great skill, offensive, defensive and support skill all in one. Chaos armor will make you even more defensive and annoying to kill.
And phase retreat is a low cooldown mini blink leap finisher, do that in an ethereal field and you get a free chaos armor.

If you are quite new to the mesmer, then using a staff as one of your weaponsets is actually very advisable, no matter what stats you have.
I suggest you start reading the forum and especially this sticky
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/List-Find-your-Mesmer-Build-Guides/first
Check some of the peoples builds and the videos of how they play.
You will notice that the majority of the posted builds use a staff.

You’ll be changing your build many times to try everything out, eventually you will know what works and what doesn’t. But completely copying someone elses build rarely is a good idea when playing mesmer.

The bonuses are supposed to be mediocre at best.
If the bonuses were all that great it would unbalance wvw more than it already is.
And people would see the bonus as a requirement to be viable, and then people would complain of how they introduced another threadmill to grind your way trough.

Look at them thesame way as the gear tiers. You don’t need ascended gear to be viable, you don’t even need full exotics.
Same with these bonuses, you don’t need them to be viable, but if you can have them, why not.

Rank 5 : killed by a cliff again.

Seems like you get 1 point / rank to spend.
Supply upgrade already needs 20 points for the first level.
So i am pretty sure that they know the supply upgrade is the most powerful one.
But i do actually think the supply upgrade is a very nice thing, since it encourages smaller team gameplay.
A zerg will always have loads of ppl to carry supply, and wont have trouble stripping camps where they pass to resupply.
Small groups of ppl however will now be able to carry enough supply for a dangerous amount of siege to be set up in a small amount of time.

The supply upgrade will most likely be 2 supply / upgrade, 1 seems too little and not always useful since you need an even number of supply to repair a wall/gate.
5 sup / upgrade would seem way to powerful.

Anyway, i look forward to it.

Commanders will now also need basic math skills, after saying “sup count”, and seeing 7, 12, 15, 16, 3, 10, 18, 12, …

Entropy.4732:

Thanks guys! Much appreciated. Ironvos, can you post your current build? I’m curious.

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/mesmer/?4.5|1.1c.h15|6.1c.h4|1n.79.1n.79.1n.79.1n.79.1n.79.1n.79|4u.0.1n.67.1n.67.1n.67.1n.67.1c.67|0.k1a.u3ac.f4.5|16.8|33.3d.3c.34.3o|e

You can take feedback instead of arcane thievery for more chaos effect.
It’s just a nice balanced build i tried to make, still a work in progress.
You can use another weaponset instead of the GS, but the staff i find crucial for bunkering.
The last 10 in chaos traits is also optional.

*Success not guaranteed, every mesmer player has his own playing style and therefor a different build

Having some decent bunker abilities are also preferred.
You don’t want to try and bust a zerg on a glass cannon, if 3 ppl look at you you’re dead
With my current build i often go up into the enemy zerg, place a chaos storm under me and pop chaos armor and watch all those guys waste their time shooting at me. Meanwhile you throw up some phantasms and clones. while i’m inside enemy lines i also like to use GS#5 and throw a bunch of enemies towards our zerg.
After about 10 seconds you either blink back to your own zerg, or watch how your zerg pushes forward to your position.

It doesn’t always work though, and is probably not advisable to use against strong guild zergs

To easily (but still slowly) solo champions, i find that if you have Deceptive evasion + crippling dissipation, you can simply kite them forever till they drop dead

Well UW does attack the french border often.
But whenever the french clean up their border they usually go straight to ours.
Most i’ve seen them do in almost 3 days is cap UW bay once.
Quite silly if you have to defend against all non-EB french nearly 24/7 and whatever UW decides to throw at us.
They seem to be focused on second place.

Glad to see last night was a normal night. I think we had most of the french server on our border while UW was giving us hell on EB. But i think we did allright seeing as we managed to hold 3/4 keeps intact.
FR did come close to taking garrison though, but had to retreat with the inner gate at 15%, was a nice fight

Seems like we have a pretty balanced matchup this week. Sure is more exciting than being way ahead of your competitors and doing nothing more than groundskeeping and karmatraining the rest of the week.

And to all forumwarriors, go get a room, this is a thread about our (nice) matchup, not an ego competition.

I run a 0/20/30/15/5 gs(sigil of blood)/Staff(sigil of bloodlust) build
Gear is a mix of soldiers and knights, rune of hoelbrak and poultry and leek soup for -56% cond duration.
Its a very durable and versatile build and can put out a decent amount of damage.
Allows me to easily survive in the wvw zerg and its great in small teams.

Well, atleast now we will see them running away, instead of guessing every time they stealth whether they are preparing a new attack or just ran away.

Didji.4973:

Ironvos.9014:

FR also seem to have some reinforcements i haven’t seen last week.

If you have any guild tag in mind, I’d be interested to know because, AFAIK, we didn’t receive any external reinforcements since last week.

I could be mistaken offcourse.
But i remember a guild named aFG or aVG or something similar hitting our border pretty hard at reset.
I just don’t remember seeing them last week, especially not a guild running with a 30ppl full boonstack zergball.

edit: after seeing them again this night i believe their tag is aFm

Well this thread got ugly quite fast.
Don’t see where all this losing stuff already comes from, it’s only been 14 hours yet.
Maybe you are just trying to demoralize us by chest thumping about your strong reset. But after having faced all those german midtier servers we are used to catching up points on weekends, last week was just exceptional.

It’s a rough start for us so far, didn’t have the amount of people we had last reset.
UW certainly have a lot more people in WvW than they used to, but we’ll have to see if you can keep up this pace for a full week
FR also seem to have some reinforcements i haven’t seen last week.

So it will be interesting to see where this is going

Good luck in T6 gunnars.
Sure will be a change without all you GH guys we got so used to on the forum.
But we get an old rival in the place, UW, we were also stuck with them for 6 weeks in a row

Well having SM always attracts people to EB.
And we do need people to defend it cause eventually someone will be trying a golemrush on it

We are quite used to the SM trebbing routine since we have had SM for most of the time for 12 weeks now.
A lot of different people go trebbing, it is usually our more seasoned players though that do, since they know what they are aiming at

wish.3102:

Ironvos.9014:

If this does indeed happen and thieves start dropping dead everywhere cause they can’t chainstealth and can’t abuse culling anymore, i sure hope they wait about 6 months aswell before buffing the thief

That sounds like a good way to lose whatever percentage of your player base plays THF.

It would give them time to L2P

If this does indeed happen and thieves start dropping dead everywhere cause they can’t chainstealth and can’t abuse culling anymore, i sure hope they wait about 6 months aswell before buffing the thief

I have had little trouble with thieves the last few days since i have my new build.
Finding the right build is an continues process so even my current one will probably be very different again in one month, but i am quite satisfied that thieves don’t trouble me anymore (aside from a GC bs thief that runs into me during a fight offcourse, not much to do against if your things are on cooldown).

There are many ways to counter thieves as a mesmer as you can see from the replies from other people.
But going for a balanced build helped me quite a bunch.
With 2000 P, 1600Prec, 2000 T, 1400 Vit, Staff/GS i can soak up a bunch of damage, avoid a lot of damage and still easily put out enough damage to down anything GC pretty fast.
Added to that i have -56% condition duration from runes + food.
It makes my encounters with permastealth p/p bleed thieves quite amusing

In staff mode you have chaos storm to cast on yourself, if the thief is in melee he will get his plans screwed. You will also have chaos armor for atleast 10 seconds, it really helps more than what you at first may think, having a thief proc blind or cripple during his hs spam shuts him down.
You also get your phase retreat on a very low cooldown, even better when traited, and if you use a staff it is preferred to be traited so that staff 4 and 5 have a lot shorter cooldowns.
The warlock also hits like a ton of bricks against any thief.

In GS mode you can cast your berserker, it wil cripple the thief, hurt him bad, or make him waste a dodge. It will also hit the thief while you cant see him yet.
Your iWave is to be kept in reserve until he puts down his shadow refuge to knock him out.

It does depend on your build.
Most mesmers will however use F1 quite often.
In shatter builds off course as often as possible, other builds would use it to finish off the enemy with a fast shatter.
F2 is also used in shatter builds when F1 is on cooldown, or for conditionbuilds for spreading mass confusion, or builds that want to make use of the retaliation it grants with the confusing cry trait.
F3 is probably the least used shatter, usually its used as a fast interrupt with no illusions up trough the use of the illusionary persona trait.
F4 is your get out of jail card, can give you up to 4 seconds of invul, it is on a long cooldown though, 45/60s.

Confusing images would be hitting up to 5 people he said, target + 4.
Sounds really nice if you are in a big fight.
Select the dude in the back and then walk around with the beam active, confusion everywhere

And it certainly is piercing not interference.

Dasorine.1964:

Ironvos.9014:

There is a way to calculate your effective damage, all that is done here is we remove armor ratings, weapon damage and skill multiplier from the equation as they are not influenced by your stats and can be considered a constant.
Your damage is calculated by this:
(Weapon damage (WD) x Skill coefficient (SC) x Power (P)) / Targets armor (A)
We turn this into:
(WD x SC/A) x P
Now you only have to take into account your power.
Now to calculate your average damage you need to make an equation that introduces critical chance(CC) and critical damage (CD)
They will be used as a multiplier value instead of the percentage value.

P x (1-CC) + (P x CC) x (1.5 + CD)

For your stats it would look something like this (i’ll assume 1000 weapon damage as you did not give your power specifically).

(2000 * 0.5) + (2000 * 0.5)*2 = 3000

Lets check +100 power

(2100 * 0.5) + (2100 * 0.5)*2 = 3150

And let’s check +10% crit rating

(2000 * 0.4) + (2000 * 0.6) * 2 = 3200

Conclusion : In this case +10% critical chance is better than +100 power.

*Note: this is not very surprising if you know that for each 1% crit chance you need to spend 21 precision. A better comparison would be 10% crit and 210 power. In this case power would be the best.

*Note2: this only calculates average damage, it does not take into account how much damage you would get from ‘on crit’ sigils for example.

he did state 10% critical damage not 10% critical chance

Thx, i edited it

There is a way to calculate your effective damage, all that is done here is we remove armor ratings, weapon damage and skill multiplier from the equation as they are not influenced by your stats and can be considered a constant.
Your damage is calculated by this:
(Weapon damage (WD) x Skill coefficient (SC) x Power (P)) / Targets armor (A)
We turn this into:
(WD x SC/A) x P
Now you only have to take into account your power.
Now to calculate your average damage you need to make an equation that introduces critical chance(CC) and critical damage (CD)
They will be used as a multiplier value instead of the percentage value.

P x (1-CC) + (P x CC) x (1.5 + CD)

For your stats it would look something like this (i’ll assume 1000 weapon damage as you did not give your power specifically).

(2000 * 0.5) + (2000 * 0.5)*2 = 3000

Lets check +100 power

(2100 * 0.5) + (2100 * 0.5)*2 = 3150

And let’s check +10% crit damage

(2000 * 0.5) + (2000 * 0.5) * 2.1 = 3100

Conclusion : In this case +100 power is better than +10% critical damage

*Note: this only calculates average damage, it does not take into account how much damage you would get from ‘on crit’ sigils for example, or ‘on crit’ traits.

Female number 2

sigils and runes have separate cooldowns.

We are waiting for you UW

I’m also using this combo atm, well with ‘bowl of poultry and leek soup’ anyway, costs like 30c instead of 6s for lemongrass soup.
-61/65% cond duration is very good to have.
As said before it makes cripples almost insignificant, but also immobilize is a condition, and don’t forget about fear, a very annoying condition reduced to almost nothing.
This big condition defense allowed me to take less vit and get more power and precision instead

I’ve seen some similar things a few weeks ago.
I was in EB, and i kept seeing 3 people running towards an SM cannon to start attacking it.
I jump down and they barely notice me.
Only after i downed one they started attacking me.
After we killed them we waited a bit, and there they came again, following exactly the same trajectory they did before and attack the cannon again and again.
There was even someone manning the cannon.

Yea i can understand that finishing in second place almost every week isn’t very encouraging.
If the ratings worked more properly things like that wouldn’t really happen and people would switch tiers more often have more variation in wins and losses.
I think we can be glad with our midtier though, ratings are quite close to eachother so we aren’t as tier locked as the NA tiers.

Xoac doesn’t like us anymore? :p

Offcourse some problems could be solved by just giving the thief normal cooldown skills like every other class instead of current initiative system.
No more spamming buttons at all anymore.
As it currently stands, a thief weaponset is good if it has one great skill.
For other classes you have a bad weaponset when it has one bad skill.
Other classes can already be glad if half their weaponskills are appropriate to the situation they are in.
A thief however can blow all his initiative on the most appropriate skills in every situation every time. And if that still fails, well he’ll just run away.

Oh yes i took into consideration how this would affect the thief permastealth build.
It would solve two problems at once.
No more HS spam, less permastealth trolling.
Thieves would be less of a faceroll class and would require more thinking to be played.
That shouldn’t be a problem for good thieves since they already don’t use these gimmicky mechanics.

Rayya.2591:

Ironvos.9014:

In the case of heartseeker spam.
Why not just make the skill only usable on a target (afterall, mid air doesn’t have a heart to aim at).
And when target is out of range, your skill fails, no leap and you loose your 3 initiative.
Thieves would actually have to check their range then if they don’t want to burn ini for nothing. And getting yourself out of range fast enough would seriously screw up a HS spammer for that reason as hed be left with no ini.

is an leap http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Leap not an teleport
all those skills should fail if they don’t hit the target ?
what you ask is like , mesmer should not spawn clone on dodge unless they avoid an hit
blurred frenzy should not make you invulnerable unless you hit your target?

That’s true, HS would then not behave similar anymore to the other leap skills of other classes.
But the thief class has intentionally been made very different than all the other classes in terms of resource managing, so they might aswell go all the way and threat the thief ini skills also differently from other classes cooldown skills.

In the case of heartseeker spam.
Why not just make the skill only usable on a target (afterall, mid air doesn’t have a heart to aim at).
And when target is out of range, your skill fails, no leap and you loose your 3 initiative.
Thieves would actually have to check their range then if they don’t want to burn ini for nothing. And getting yourself out of range fast enough would seriously screw up a HS spammer for that reason as hed be left with no ini.