Guild Wars 2

Wilco.1458:

Dear Blackgate, if you let us fight the TW Choo megazerg in peace, we won’t attack you.

From, everyone.

You’ll get made their kitten either way, what does it matter?

Not that I mind, but JQ’s problem is they keep trying to take ppt JUST from SoR instead of BOTH BG and SoR.

They could probably come in 2nd if they used proper strategy and opportunistic hits.

Punny.9210:

BG NA is so weak ……. i know it has been like since age ago but man …… i just feel shame to our other time zone

Well, it’s not a population issue. It’s a performance issue.

MERC gets called bad by its own servermates.

Good to see it’s recognized generally. There’s no bias.

MagiKarp.8201:

kitten I’m good, been mentioned 4 times in this thread and I haven’t even logged into gw2 yet this marchup week. Lots of Mirin’ going on, yeah that Agg vid slaughtering that Agg soldier pretty accurate.

You do realize the “matchup week” isn’t even 24 hours in right?

JQ needs NA help, go there.

That video is hilarious Jericho.

Well done.

I only speak the truth.

PRO is prob one of BG’s better guilds. Definitely going to hurt to lose them.

Is it true PRO transferred from BG to JQ?

Kryyg.8576:

Israel.7056:

I think the reason it seems like SoR has more people is because they’re just generally more coordinated than BG. They have everyone going after one thing at the same time or they’ll be coordinating hits on several objectives at the same time so it feels like a coverage thing.

I’m starting to notice this more which is why I asked in my previous post hoping some SoR players would be willing to be more open about their server.

While I don’t agree with their posters or their current recruitment stance, I was being sincere when I said as a server, SoR seems leaps and bounds ahead of JQ and BG as far as organization goes.

I mean, sure if you asked me 2-3 weeks ago who was the smallest server, it could be said it was SoR, but now I don’t know if they are the smallest, with a population that seems improved and their already stronger than most organization, it’s becoming quite obvious that BG and JQ aren’t equipped. I mean we admittedly 2v1’d you guys from the get go this match but we simply can’t keep up.

It’s called preparation, 80% of this reset’s meeting was about discussing the server-wide strategy to fight a 2v1. Indo called it and talked about the 2v1, that we should expect it, enjoy it, and then we all talked about how to counter it.

The reason why SoR seems “leaps and bounds” ahead is because we are, we have leaders that set goals and then we all talk about how to implement them efficiently. And we have serverwide goals, guild goals, and individual player goals, and all are set and worked towards on a regular basis. It’s a lot of effort, but it pays off.

Think Ascii was being his normal factitious self.

Kryyg.8576:

TW on the forums are such kittens, when they were on JQ in ts and in game they were so nice.

I don’t get it

Are you really judging people by the forums?

If so, …………………………….

Monsoon.2589:

Jahn.7019:

It also requires a lot of young players in school or the jobless. No adult player with a family or job could afford to do that.

BG in general does seem like a younger population. It must be nice to have the flexibility to play whenever and for as long as you want. Oh how I miss having no responsibility sometimes.

Enjoy being young and free while you can. :-)

This is a very narrow minded way to see things.

I am busy 12 hours a day in an ER and I find the time to relax enough to play when I get back home. Not all players are kids or unemployed this is such a bad statement to make. Most people in guilds in T1 I guess have jobs and busy ones and you also forget the different countries and time zones

It wasn’t mean as an insult, what I was saying, is that it’s that group of players that is more likely able to switch their play times on the fly and play a completely different timezone when they would normally be sleeping.

If I could afford to switch on the fly like that for my server, I probably would too. But rl and work take priority over the game for me.

Has TW and BT ever gvg against each other?

They should if they haven’t, that would be fun to watch I think.

zepp.4109:

Hoots.9564:

zepp.4109:

Hoots.9564:

Hmm, pretty lackluster attempt at defending Bay on SoR BL BG. If you plan to push out as many times as you did, you actually have to be able to kill something. Thanks for the bags BT and Icoa.

Kinda ironic to see a TW member trying to troll BT.

Not trolling when its the truth, tell your GM thanks for the bags!

I’m not from BT.

Yeah, i always see the truth when BT and TW has equal numbers. hahaha

Jahn.7019:

To be fair to BT, they are a good guild but only when they have the full BL on their kitten as well.

We can say the same about TW. ~~

BT is a large guild, TW is a small/medium guild. They will never have the same numbers.

To be fair to BT, they are a good guild but only when they have the full BL on their kitten as well.

They usually aren’t effective on their own.

Burl.9567:

Kryyg.8576:

Kaimick.5109:

SykkoB.9465:

Lemrish.5970:

People forget that yesterday July 1st was a Stat Holiday in Canada so EU time had some extra people. We’re going to see the same at the end of the week with July 4th holidays in the US. Unfortunately, the PPT you see now in EU time will be norm.

This is what happens when a server panics after getting destroyed by RG and finishing last after wining for weeks. [KISS], [SONG] and whomever else they recruited will make things difficult in EU time with their PVDooring now with full map zergs.

Keep fighting JQ and BG! Go after those camps and slap those yaks. Who knows, you might be able to divide up the SOR map blobs and come up with some surprising victories!

SONG a small havoc squad guild who is sea

Yes SONG is SEA and not very large, but I think people are still puzzled as to why SoR would activily seek out Kiss for a time slot they already had large numbers in. Especially when I believe it was Lettol ( sorry for the miss spelling or mis qoute ) that said “We turn away guilds to JQ all the time so we can have even number and good fights.”

Now SoR war council or what ever you call your selves there can not stop KISS from transfering, although common practice of human pysc tells us that when someone is not wanted they generally wont go.

So Instead of SoR saying we would love to have you BUT Jq doesn’t even have a EU presence, I think you would fit in good there and get amazing fights to boot. Instead they activly tried to recuirt them and then turn to BG and tell us that we should give JQ some of our guilds becuase we are Blackhole gate or what ever silly name has been derived.

Although in SoR defense from the sounds of it KISS just wanted to be part of a winning server and ban wagoned over to SoR. Was it becuase SoR had the more prodominate EU presence who knows but out of the three servers

• SoR has the most numbers in EU
• BG has HB and RK when they log on ( HB and RK you guys do work hat tips ) and Merc groups when they pull overtime
• JQ has no EU presence and if there is any JQ on in that time it is their SEA pulling OT.

I don’t even agree with Choco Puddin going for KISS although I can’t blame him, just like I can’t BlAME SOR for doing it. Honestly I don’t think anyone blames SoR for further strengthening their strong time coverage. People just don’t understand why SoR came off like the savior of fairness for equal fights then did this.

Just out of curiosity what does SoR have? I know BG has a “war council” and JQ has a “wvw conclave”.

What does SoR’s leadership consist of/what’s it called/who’s part of it??

Nothing like this exists. We all just communicate with each other.

This, SoR has no leadership council or hierarchy. Everyone takes responsibility and helps the community in whatever way they can. It’s very organic tbh.

I feel jipped I didn’t get my SOR monogrammed towel.

Doesn’t sound like a sincere apology to me, just more BG forum drama.

We accept your apology and don’t blame you either for always being wrong.

Israel.7056:

Jahn.7019:

It must be nice to have the flexibility to play whenever and for as long as you want.

It is nice.

I know, I was there once, long time ago. Enjoy every minute of it.

It also requires a lot of young players in school or the jobless. No adult player with a family or job could afford to do that.

BG in general does seem like a younger population. It must be nice to have the flexibility to play whenever and for as long as you want. Oh how I miss having no responsibility sometimes.

Enjoy being young and free while you can. :-)

SykkoB.9465:

tbh its prob the same reason ALot of SEA guilds have joined BG or JQ in the pass. They didnt wanna feel like they had to carry the load and wanted ppl to play with. If i am remembering correctly WHen merc joined bg, they said the reason they choose them over sor or others was it gave them the best shot at taking down jq and also cause they wouldnt need to carry the load, because they would have other guild in that time slot

This MERC specifically said when they moved to BG that they were tired of carrying SOS and playing overtime but they go and do the same thing on BG.

Whether it’s by overtime play or different tz guilds, coverage is coverage. With BGs massive population combined with their regular overtime play, they have the best coverage of the tier without question. And it’s undeniably powerful.

The 2v1 is still going hard. Day 4, keep on bringing it.

While some may whine about it, getting non stop 2v1 produces better players and gets rid of the weak, so I say bring it on. Plus, who could deny all those bags.

pot.6805:

Hoots.9564:

pot.6805:

At least GSCH and Tsym stayed on SoR BL for awhile after TW totally abandoned them.

lol those TW havoc groups, so nasty that even BG thinks we went on that BL in force.

So Indo leads havoc groups now? Man, he really fell off as a full map zerg commander.

Last I checked TW was not a Euro guild. You do realize Indo leads whether TW is on en force or not right?

Whether your EU players come from EU countries or not, it doesnt matter. Fact of the matter is you have EU coverage and you guys were trying to recruit both KIsS and IRON. You would have broke the tier if you did.

With RK and HB and your late SEA and OC players. You have superior numbers.

With the scores being so close, I really think BG just has no clue about how many people they really have on their server.

It’s quite possible that even with KISS, SoR may not have the coverage needed to keep up. Maybe with school being out, more of BG is able to play now more often. Which does change the dynamics quite a bit.

BG is just putting out full map zergs almost 24/7.

He was probably asking for some ointment.

GivaBack.9328:

Normally I play NA, but hey it is Sunday, I wanted to run with HB, so I run. Congrats SoR on reaching 355PPT. The score is indicative of the imbalance that is occurring, and We can kiss our previous balance good bye. There is no yin or yang. I hope EU guilds on EU servers would join BG and JQ to right the imbalance that is occuring and help fight the empire.

In the meantime, JQ and BG, keep fighting….“For Freeedoooom”.

- BG Citizen

The 355 was for like 1 tick, past hour and half everyone is within 40ppt of each other.

Also, eyefinity is pretty common as it is standard on a lot of products nowadays. It does look beautiful for this game if you do use it.

Kathy K.6812:

Smokee.1754:

Jahn.7019:

Before IRON, BG was the only server with EU with RK and HB, just fyi. For almost 4-5 months, if not longer.

You didn’t hear any of the whining from any other server that BG is putting up now.

Back then the SoR South American population was huge. Time difference between EU and the South Amaricans is just 2-3 hours. I still remember fighting 60+ LUN in EU prime.

Also we´ve been fighting EU guilds on both IoJ and SBI. VoTF were on NA servers for months and were a great challenge.

Besides we ( the EU guilds on BG ) are glad that more EU guilds are joining the NA servers. We are just not happy about them not joining the only server in a matchup without EU coverage. We want 3 way fights as we get in NA prime.

Also if you read one of my former replies you would know that Ive told BG not to recruit more EU guilds for BG, and that I would leave BG should it happen.

Last I want to congratulate you on beeing a somewhat succesfull troll. Its been years since I played that game, but you are doing a descent job at catching a few fools.

^This is what makes the server so great. Goes to show Blackgate is about quality over quantity… Keep recruiting more EU SoR!

This is amusing because according to KISS, some guy named “Choc Pudding” tried really hard to recruit them, he was in their TS going nuts trying to recruit that guild to BG. All this talk from BG about not recruiting EU or wanting to recruit EU just went out the window.

Burl.9567:

Kaimick.5109:

dwahvel.7356:

Jet.4795:

dwahvel.7356:

Man loving all this crying from bg/jq. 2 EU guilds and they cry for weeks and weeks.
I don’t remember hearing jq complain when they recruited like 10 guilds the same time SoS was losing guilds. Won matchups by 100k+ for weeks.
Or when bg recruited……how many guilds since joining t1? Who knows they sure win the gold star for recruiting most guilds. Bg will take any guild possible. They have no care about balance they just want to stomp and pvd like the t2 days.
This is the closest matchup T1 has ever had and jq/bg forum trolls go crazy.
Bring on the double team SoR welcomes the more bags.

Since your troll is obviously a fail I will just point out everything wrong with this. JQ recruited 2 guilds….PRX and SF that’s it lol. Secondly You complain BG doesn’t care about balance well then you guys are no better doing the same thing. And is it our fault SoS was losing guilds? I mean cmon just reread what you put lol. Keep it classy.

Guess all those 100k+ wins and 500+ ppt sea coverage wasnt due to over recruiting?
Guess recruiting only 2 NA guilds effects the 24h coverage.

LOL I got a great lauh out of this

Pre IRON

• SoR always comes in 3rd maybe with the occasional 2nd
• SoR has to Map hop with a 30 to maybe 40 man zerg

Post IRON

• SoR comes in 1st
• SoR now fields 40 to 60 man zergs on half the maps and 30 to 40 man zergs on the rest

But your right SoR has only recuirted a few guilds.

Personally this makes me laugh I believe it was Lettol ( if I am wrong sorry ) or someone from SoR that says we push guilds toJQ all the time. Yet here we have SoR activily pushing to grab another sizable force in a time slot they are dominating already. Yes you can’t stop people form joining your server, but did you tell Song to go to JQ? I mean one of the statements of SoR is theya re always about the fights, but from Pre to post IRON SoR seems to be follwoing the philosophy that you need to out number the opponet 3 to 1. Now I am not sayign that JQ and BG don’t have their own blobs, although SoR seems to focus on always outnumbering their opponets in any given fight. Since every Fight I have had with any SoR guild since Iron has been

• equal numbers SoR fights a little they lose 20% of their forces they run.
• 3 to 1 odds favored to SoR they fight and either A. Steam roll or B. Lose 2/3 of their force but still win.

Which I mean I am not crying having superior numbers is part of the game, lets not sit here and preech that SoR are in it for the fights or activily push guilds to JQ for better fights when clearly you don’t.

Oh on a lasting note I get a great laugh out of every fourm troll for SoR that always come out to chest thump when SoR is winning and hides under theri bridges or also QQ on the threads when SoR is losing. I also love how SoR keeps calling Blackgate Blackhole for all the guilds they have recurited, yet fail to realize they have recuirted just as many. I mean really can anyone name the guilds that were on SoR pre Iron when they couldn’t even beging to fathom the #1 spot? I just say it is what it is, and people need to realize that SoR can’t control the fair weather guilds that jump to the server cause they win, and every server does their fair share of recuirting from other servers so get over all your selfs SoR is no different from BG who inturn in no different than JQ. We are all Top servers for a reason, I hope JQ gets a solid EU guild and presence, I hope one day BG will get a solid EU presence also. Not saying that HB and our other Eu guilds are not strong cause they have been doing an awesome job. Just BG EU presence is no where near what SoR had with IRON, now with SONG it is definatly not close but I am sure that HB and company will be having fun regardless.

Lets keep it classy SoR start putting a leash on your Fourm Trolls by publicly speaking out against them. BG let keep this civil and make sure we chastise the BG trolls, JQ keep up the great work.

SONG isn’t even an EU guild…

Shh, he’s on a roll.

Before IRON, BG was the only server with EU with RK and HB, just fyi. For almost 4-5 months, if not longer.

You didn’t hear any of the whining from any other server that BG is putting up now.

MERC is pretty much 24/7. Without them, BG would be nothing.

Probably their best purchase to date.

shortcake.8659:

mikal.9502:

Hour plus queue and still wating on SOR. Guess its serious this week, last week it was undermanned the whole week-end.

nothing helps you recruit more zerg guilds like purposefully underperforming and then trying to prove that you need the help

Lol, look at his history. He doesn’t even play on SoR.

His last post was this “SOR doesn’t belong on the same battlefield with JQ or BG. My god better hope they get a tier 4 server again next week. At least this week they have been getting ALOT of practice in running away. They should be in good shape by the end of the week. RETREAT RETREAT!!!!”

SoR has no queues on anything except EB atm.

BG put your trolls away, you are just looking bitter and petty now.

The tides have turned, BG recruited enough to go from 50k to 19k to winning by 21k.

Now maybe both SoR and BG will bounce the wins back and forth and both be within 5k of each other.

If last week is any indicator of BG population and coverage, quite frankly even with KISS, BG will still outnumber everyone on all the maps.

In all due honesty, last week’s matchup was probably one of the closest in history. BG won by about 21k from 3nd place.

It’s obvious they are the powerhouse of the tier when it comes to population/coverage and deserve the respect for that.

If SoR getting more people makes the matchup even closer with the same result as far as placement, I think it’s something everyone should be happy about, especially since there are great fights to be had.

LetoII.3782:

Jahn.7019:

JQ looks fine, it’s BG that looks worrisome.

I think it’s been proven JQ is one helluva resilient server. While BG is fickle.

1 week on, 1 month off.
At least they keep posting eh?

Have to be consistent somewhere I suppose.

Vash.9183:

Jahn.7019:

CuddleStrike.8215:

Jahn.7019:

JQ looks fine, it’s BG that looks worrisome.

I think it’s been proven JQ is one helluva resilient server. While BG is fickle.

Can’t we all just agree that our servers are all resilient. Still all here! Good work team!

Not what I’ve heard from BG friends. You guys hate each other just as much as you hate the other servers.

Do you believe everything you hear?

Only when it comes from the source itself.

CuddleStrike.8215:

Jahn.7019:

JQ looks fine, it’s BG that looks worrisome.

I think it’s been proven JQ is one helluva resilient server. While BG is fickle.

Can’t we all just agree that our servers are all resilient. Still all here! Good work team!

Not what I’ve heard from BG friends. You guys hate each other just as much as you hate the other servers.

Thankfully you have deep pockets.

JQ looks fine, it’s BG that looks worrisome.

Both IRON and KISS are top tier guilds all trolling aside.

The overall general tears coming from BG is quite hilarious. I won’t lie.

Indeed. BG’s Euro timeslot is pretty amazing now. I’m sure they are excited for the challenge.

Webley.1295:

With KISS and IRON on the SoR EU time slot one guild will surly get bored with PvDooring domination and leave

its not sustainable but will bag SoR a few wins for sure

Only if BG doesn’t show up, if they play Euro like they played Euro this week, it’ll be a fun matchup.

BG had massive zergs out during Euro all this week. They won the euro time zone most of it.

With HB back, BG now has 2 euros and SoR has 2 euros. And going by the score this week, it’s fair to say BG has the upper hand still. BG is going to win by 21k. One guild won’t make up that difference still.

I think it’s only fun if we face each other. It’s boring otherwise.

OP doesn’t even play on SoR.

He plays on BG.

I don’t understand, BG cries when they are losing, they cry when they are winning.

I am amazed by how much QQ still pours out of your server.

On a positive note, at least now with HB back in some form and BG winning the EU timezone again we can stop hearing about the EU QQ.

Hopefully you guys keep up the performance, would be a shame if this was a one week thing out of BG.

I think both JQ and SoR agree, it’s good to finally see the top stacked server get 1st place.

Someone from Anet should listen to this interview.