Guild Wars 2

coglin.1867:

K U T M, that is kind of my point, Elixir C is our only choice and I feel we need more. I disagree that the tool belt skill is worth it alone. Its not a bad skill, but one condition every 30s isn’t anything to get excited about.

As far as fumigate goes, yeah I love it. I just happen to dislike our limitations for self cleanse.

I think the only classes that aren’t pigeonholed into condition removal are ele (though recently, the ones I’ve fought have been bringing all the self cleanse they can) and guardian.

Ranger: Empathetic Bond, Signet, healing spring

Warrior: Zerker Stance, Cleansing Ire

Necromancer: Condi transfer on weapon sets, Consume Conditions

Thief: Remove condis in stealth, lyssa+bask venom, shadowstep

Mesmer: Nullfield, Disenchanter, mender’s purity, traited torch. (More options than most tbh, but they mainly remove 1-3 conditons)

Engineer: Elixir C, Heal Turret, Elixir Gun, remove condi on elixir, toss elixir r, automated response

Brando.1374:

am I the only one that thinks a PvP mode should involve killing players and should matter more than standing on a point?

That makes too much sense, can’t possibly be valid.

coglin.1867:

It appears your attempting to suggest a rune set as a solution to a condition removal issue. That raises two issues in itself. For one, its based on the use of an elite skill, which all have extended cool downs. Elites are not intended to be used as condition removal. Secondly, were are discussing the condition removal issue in terms of the profession as a wgole and its limitations anywhere. When you bring sigils and runes into the discussion, you have to remember that every profession can use them.

A professions ability to accomplish a necessary should not be linked to a rune or sigil.

Then take elixir c? The condi removal from it’s toolbelt ALONE makes it worth taking imo. The utility itself is amazing. I just don’t because I use Fumigate for group condi removal.

I run with Heal Turret + Elixir Gun + Lyssa runes and rarely have a problem managing conditions.

petterikr.4263:

Engi – Nades and Bombs give good AoE pressure. Good access to stability. Good duelist.

What?

JamboHammer.4397:

i roam alot and ive never seen this [QQ] guild any of the times im roaming only guilds ive seen alot of when i roam iz Oz and DD

QQ is 4 people.

Gumby.1708:

Terrahero.9358:

But if you’re talking about the absolute best, the apex of tagging. The only answer is Grenadier Engineer. Any other answer is stupid.

This is simply not true, i have a grenade engi as one of my main wvw characters ….Its true that grenade spam + bomb kit will tag most of the players and guarantee much loot, but you dont have the survivability like a necro (surviving longer thus tagging more enemies results in more loot ), the grenades have a delay before they land and do damage and also the radius is smaller.

Yes you can. Easily.

FIFO pleaseee
/15

Nice gameplay + Pretty Lights = win

Engi main here.

I’m fine with all of the changes to my class. I can still have perma vigor, and will have to give up recharge on nades for incin powder now (Probably will go 30/10/0/20/10 post patch).

Warrior changes seem like a step in the right direction, but you should take a look at their regen. It can get pretty crazy at times, though I play a class very well suited to taking down regen builds with high poison uptime, so I haven’t noticed it AS much as other classes probably have.

Guardian changes I loved. DPS Guard is my favorite build to play, awesome that you’re buffing it.

Ele changes – Really, anything that’s classified as a buff to the class is a good change atm. Diamond Skin might be pretty amazing. (AR Engi + DS ele duo??)

Thief: I don’t know much about the class, except from when I’ve fought it. S/D definitely needed to be toned down, nice to see that it has been. The ini regen buff will be huge for a lot of people.

Mesmer – My old main, the IC buff is going to be awesome for a lot of people. Mender’s purity is going to be so good. Mantra Mastery + Shattered strength are okay. Rest are pretty meh imo.

Necro changes seem okay. 2 less bleeds from a necro condi burst is amazing in my book, though tbh, I get more worried about the non-damaging condis from Spite Signet moreso that then bleeds.

Ranger spirit changes are good. The buffs to power stuff is really nice to see, though as someone else said, it might have too much stuff in one traitline.

losieight.4807:

BS is full of nobs tho :/

Yeah, we suck.

I love shortbow thieves. I just spam 1 on elixir gun until they realize they’re accomplishing nothing and slowly dying to bleeds and burn procs.

Berengar.6951:

Just take a second to think about how OP healing turret would become

2.6k HP/s np

Sifu.6527:

K U T M.4539:

Sifu.6527:

K U T M.4539:

Poison

gg wp

How can poison counter this?

Because that’s its job?

Awesome! Thanks. Can you tell me how I can get high uptime on poison as a Mesmer, Warrior, Ele, or Guardian?

Sigil of doom on both weapon sets.

Thats 50% uptime.

Allie Murdock.8152:

Sorry, going to change your topic/thread a bit to remove the swearing because I don’t want it to be snagged by moderators.

I would like to know if you’re experiencing leavers (joining and then leaving), or if it is just that people don’t show up to the match at all.

Thanks!

It’s a mix of both for me. As well as some AFK at the start.

Most common is the fifth just not showing up.

DevonCarver.5370:

The rewards included in season 1 achievements should help to address this. Very specifically the ascended crafting materials. It is also the case, that we want people playing all the parts of the game, so there are always going to be optimal ways to get specific rewards and those may not always include WvW. We are building the whole of GW2 and we try and balance things across all the game types.

We will continue to make strides, however, to make WvW feel more rewarding, especially in this type of area.

A lot of the wvw player base doesn’t like the other parts of the game.

Because they’re kitten

Sifu.6527:

K U T M.4539:

Poison

gg wp

How can poison counter this?

Because that’s its job?

It definitely works.

Condi PU mesmers is one of the most common dueling specs atm, because it’s so strong.

Poison

gg wp

Yeah, we could play ping pong with ourselves and everyone around us

Contiguous.1345:

K U T M.4539:

Malediktus.9250:

I am wearing full berserker (i am guardian) as a commander. Dont see any issues with berserker

I think by “full zerker builds” He meant glassy builds designed for speed clearing dungeons.

You can be full zerker and not be glassy.

Eh? How? I’m built for maximum damage at the expense of protection. Every item of gear is Power, Precision, Crit up to the hilt. If I could get more I would.
The only toughness, healing and vitality come as a side-effect of the traits I need (for doing max damage) and the runes I need for movement speed (as a mesmer).

I’m glassy as all hades. Just try to hit me though.

You’re a mesmer. Automatically harder to kill than other classes as long as you have any idea at all how to play your class.

o/5/30/30/5 is a pretty common one.

Malediktus.9250:

I am wearing full berserker (i am guardian) as a commander. Dont see any issues with berserker

I think by “full zerker builds” He meant glassy builds designed for speed clearing dungeons.

You can be full zerker and not be glassy.

Honestly, I’d be fine with the removal of Incendiary Powder if they took out Dhuumfire, and changed the way the burning from Sun Spirit worked.

OH torch on ranger/burn trap and bomb kit burn are pretty balanced imo.

With the new cd buff to Mesmer scepter, having burn on staff autoattack can be pretty ridiculous in condition builds, when its stacked on top of 14 bleeds, 10 torment stacks, and high confusion stacks

Balance.
Balance.
Game modes.

Knote.2904:

Rocket Boots only applies combo finisher effects when you land.

It gives the effect from whatever field was below you when you launched, but the effect doesn’t happen till you land, even if you land outside of it.

atreyu.9624:

While I don’t use celestial, or not even have it.

I would totally give it a try for roaming , IF I had a free celestail set. xD

only thing is that HealingPower I do not like it one bit.

The armor you get from the Halloween event JP can be chosen to have Celestial stats.

Pretty easy way to acquire a full set.

Healing power benefits healing signet, andrenal health, and banner regen, which are all used in the o10/30/30/o regen condi build.

King Amadaeus.8619:

Jeknar.6184:

King Amadaeus.8619:

YB you cant have our Aldons! We in here like roaches with the lights off.

Thank you for the suicide rushes and Pbomb failures! Hopefully you guys are having fun, stop relying on siege so much and you might have taken it!

Yeah, SF know how to take Aldon Tower with Reinforced Gates without using any siege. Listen to the voice of experience.

Jek you are getting sandy in your old age, everyone knows PVGATE is a superior tactic…

I had to channel my inner [MEND] we went ET-Old School, and held a paper Aldons (for close to 3 full ticks) with 2 walls down, gate down, under 2-3 trebs, 2-3 morters, and countless ACs, oh yeah and they brought 2 omega golems.

Eventually we were overwhelmed by superior ACs and sheer YB brute force. (That is to say they brought about 50 people against our 15 or so that were still left standing).

We started with about 25 (or less) and YB did a good job of picking our people off that had died and were trying to run back. We had to push out a few times to wipe their Superior ACs, so eventually we lost enough and they called enough in to overwhelm us.

It was a pretty fun fight that showed some of our people that you can win fights against superior numbers if you are going about it properly.

If you truly had gone ET-Old School, you would have been holding NE tower in your BL. And own nothing else on the map.

Ryn.6459:

DesertRose.2031:

(…)
valid Tools choices are Scope, Static Discharge (with certain utility skills), Power Wrench (if you use the Tool Kit) and/or Speedy Gadgets (if you use Gadgets).

(…)

If you use Static Discharge you want to use Tool Kit and Rifle Turret to make use of the trait as often as possible.

Desert, what’s wrong with static discharge? You are the first one I see claiming is valid option for a grenadier build.

It doesn’t always hit and can be buggy. It’s a very bursty trait, and full burst builds are typically more pvp oriented as they don’t have the same sustained damage as other builds.

I was reading this thread without noticing the dates and everything seemed completely valid.

Except warriors weren’t mentioned.

Will whisp you when I get home

Its not so much about build for fighting necro/ranger, just learning to fight it.

Spirit ranger: Focus the Sun Spirit, its like half of the rangers DPS and goes down for 25 seconds when you kill it, then has an obvious animation when it’s being summoned. Could try running P/S for interrupts.Try to avoid its Active skill that procs on death/can be activated by the ranger. Does a good bit of damage.

Necro: Condi transfer is deadly for HGH engineers, and they can also strip your boons (Might)
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Putrid_Mark
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Deathly_Swarm

Are the two most common ones. They also have Plague signet, but not a lot of necros are running it.
As far as fear chains go, you now have 5 seconds of stability on Toss Elixir B, and a stunbreak on Elixir S. Your elite, Supply Crate, is VERY good against almost everybody in 1v1 situations. Helps a ton if you can get it out in a fight with a necro.

Warrior: pretty hard countered by blinds, which you have on MH Pistol and nade kit. Their longest duration stun is effectively instant cast, Skullcrack on Mace. Should be a bit better now post-patch that sigil of paralyzation was fixed. Current meta build doesn’t take mace, Hammer is more common. All of the hard CC on hammer is avoidable and highly telegraphed.

Just put 5 perma evade thieves in the center of the zerg.

gg wp

George Steel.1804:

K U T M.4539:

Yes, Warriors stomp. A stunbreak that gives stability and launches is “useless”.

If you’ve seriously had a problem with warriors running stomp, you need to re-evaluate your playstyle.

I’ve never really ran into a warrior running it, but a guildmate of mine makes extremely good use out of it by using it to counter stunlock builds.

mrstealth.6701:

Jeknar.6184:

I still think that the only server that will suffer the so terrible consequences of being in the silver league is NSP, since it’s being FORCED on the Silver League by Kaineng tanking.

Yeah, NSP is probably getting the worst position. Maguuma is also in a fairly bad situation due to Dragonbrand’s collapse. The only server they have any real chance of beating in gold league is SoS. TC will easily defeat them, but it’s a matchup where they can hold some ground and put up a fight. BG/SoR/JQ will likely crush Mag just as bad as ET/SF are getting from YB this week, especially in a matchup with no other T1 server keeping them busy.

I was on Mag for a week, consensus from their core guilds was that they wanted to get into gold. They were actually trying VERY hard to not get into silver, so that they could get fights easily and not steamroll the majority of the servers below them.

Edit: Had my league names confused :z

jmatb.6307:

People whine about evade spam, and immob stacking addresses that. People whine about not being able to run burst vs. condis and immob stacking, again, addresses that.

You do know that a lot of a thief’s evades can be used while immob’d, right? So no, it doesn’t address that issue.

Yes, Warriors stomp. A stunbreak that gives stability and launches is “useless”.

That’s really good advice, thanks Chaith.

Lord Kuru.3685:

kurath.9406:

Lord Kuru.3685:

Necros have zero reliable blast finishers.

While they are certainly not good for blast finishers this is the internet and since you’re wrong it must be pointed out.

Necrotic Traversal (flesh wurm secondary activation) is a reliable blast finisher.

This is technically true, but you’d be insane to waste a flesh wurm on a blast finish. Plus, for many fields, you don’t even have enough time to cast and blast it before the field expires.

Anyway, don’t rangers have even fewer blasts?

One of their warhorn skills is a blast. Very convenient, comes with free buffs.

Pretty much what you said, but don’t forget about Nade 2/pistol 2/pistol 3.

dreztina.4820:

You get better by doing it. There’s no secret. Run around and die until you stop dying.

Basically this

Edit:

Also, tpvp. Don’t even bother with hotjoin unless it’s a dueling server, you won’t learn kitten.

Warrior
/15chars

kingcragus.6810:

man they removed all my posts fs.

Some guy agreed that good players can deal with perplexity…so you must agree that the people who can’t are bad players. Thus l2p issue. But w/e nerf is likely inc, diversity gone, game dumbed down to cater for bads, familiar story tbh.

How are builds “Diverse” with everyone and their mother running the same runeset?

Taldren.7523:

My opinion:
Necromancer: Greatsword
Mesmer: MH Pistol
Guardian: Longbow
Warrior: Shortbow
Ranger: Rifle
Thief: Mace
Elementalist: Torch

….

You forgot a class.

So basically those of us who enjoy server hopping should just not be allowed to spend gems

Ostricheggs.3742:

I understand that you guys LOVE playing your OP builds, but let’s be real, you’re not challenged by hammer longbow are you? Don’t the kills feel like you don’t deserve them and you won by heal sig and perma-stuns alone? That’s what I feel like when I play one.

Whenever I start losing faith in engi I go play hammer/longbow and think I’d rather play engi because it’s not boring as hell.

qft

Chaith and Zane The Clever are the ones who have impressed me

I noticed your pve underwater weapons don’t have stats.

Ill look for stuff, once I figure out how to do that.

This would make warrior banner and other team revive abilities worth a lot more.