Guild Wars 2

Well, with last week’s pooshow of the Yaks border being glitchy and unplayable ( leaving half their slice free from attacks) and this week with Angela Fowler the spy/griefer extraordinaire on SBI payroll ( telling sbi where all the troop movements are, wasting supply to prevent waypoints being built, siege griefing)…. Seems like we’re being given a big sleazy welcome by the silver league.

“Why fight when you can just play dirty? " That’s pretty much the message YB and SBI are telling us right now. Despicable.

20/0/20/0/30 is great, but dont use sigil of paralysation on it if you’re playing for interrupts ( via confusing strikes). I found i could flow my interrupts better without it ( considering that also without merciless hammer you dont get bonus damage on stun anyhow).

I ran it with rampager amu+zerkjewel so all the condi would have a little bit of bite ( important considering combushot changes) making it a stun/condi/pow hybrid

This bug is still active. The axe 5 whirl finisher still doesn’t produce projectiles…. currently it does one (versus 15ish before).

Thieves “stealing” whirl from a warrior and using the “stolen” move still have a working finisher on it ( on top of reflecting projectiles, something the war whirl cannot do)

Reason for bump : Still current. Still bugged. Also, a dev asked us to keep bumping/submitting bugs that haven’t been fixed.

Warrior’s Whirling axe ( axe skill 5) used to be one of the best whirl finishers in the game due to the control you had over it and amount of times you could get a projectile out of that whirl. While the damage was boosted in wvw and spvp, the combo finisher associated with the skill was effectively broken in that update….. going from many projectiles to barely one.

Even worse, the thief “stolen” whirl still works as a normal finisher ( with many pews) instead of the broken kitten one we’re glitched with.

Broken since this summer. I even made a video back then to showcase the " lost" Bow + Swd/Axe condiwar playstyle
http://youtu.be/jvmNPv1HbEA

Chris.3290:

You say BG can’t hack being in your shoes, then you ask them to get out of the way so you can use your better EU coverage to beat SoS….

Hahahahahahaahahah our “better” EU coverage. This guy.

Because every fight against Blackgate/JQ/SoR is essentially a 5to1 fight ( and that’s in good conditions) and also because they PvD everything while people are working ( FACT : 100 man just pushed into our garri to retake it against….. 12 ish roamer. At noon eastern on a monday. repeat every day), that means we start from a “paper position” every day.

Pffff Blackgate. Anyone can feel invincible in pvt with +4man dps helping against whatever. It’s not like there’s any effort or skill required. Just cruise control to victory.

The maguuma way involves becoming tougher and harder to survive against more and more ridiculous odds. No cruise control here. The reason our roamers are strong is that they get it done ALONE. That’s why we got that swag.

In fact, i’m quite confident in saying that most BG players wouldn’t be able to handle Maguuma-style difficulty. Because they are not tough enough.

Our objective this week is the number 2 spot. If blackgate will stop playing favorites ( by capping only mag stuff during the day and keeping the points rolling for sos) then perhaps we’ll get it done.

Any way you cut it, the “season” and the “rankings” are a joke. 3 weeks into the season we got word that SOME silver league servers (who shall remain nameless) deliberatly tanked themselves to silver league because they were too weak to try the real deal. and because….. they were scared the rewards for “bottom gold” was not gonna be good enough for them. Ask the silver league guys about it sometimes…

I come from maguuma, and let me tell you something : it is hardmode. Not only did we have to work, very hard, to earn our place in gold league… but the harshness keeps on going all day every day.

Because every fight against Blackgate/JQ/SoR is essentially a 5to1 fight ( and that’s in good conditions). Because they PvD everything while people are working ( FACT : 100 man just pushed into our garri to retake it against….. 12 ish roamer. At noon eastern on a monday. repeat every day). We start from a “paper position” every day.

Blackgate says they’re the best ? Lies! Anyone can feel invincible in pvt with +4man dps helping against whatever. It’s not like there’s any effort or skill required. Just cruise control to victory. The maguuma way involves becoming tougher and harder to survive against more and more ridiculous odds. No cruise control here.

I vote for the Borlis guys. Out of all the medium tier servers, they are a funhouse mirror of us. Every time we fight them, I get surprises. Their roamers are quite excellent. Like us they have a coverage gap. but they work hard, and I respect them.

Axe 5 combo whirl is still broken since june 25th .
Used to spread many projectiles in all directions. Now barely does 1 projectile.
Was reported in game, in forums. even made a vid about it a month later and posted that on bug forums.

axe5 whirl is still not fixed

Making seasons is fine and well, but if actual gameplay is complete garbage because people keep warping around, your skills either dont activate, glitch midway(esp movement skills) or decide to activate 3 seconds later…….. that’s not a real player versus player experience.

And believe me , I am most definitly not running this game on a cheapass toaster. You can see a cloud of lag taking over EVERY day starting 30 minutes before reset to at least a few hours after. SM on a 3way fight is still a disaster. there’s either a server-side CPU issue or a band capacity issue at work here, but whatever it is, until it’s fixed wuvwuv will still be a complete joke.

PizzaSHARK.2741:

Kaga.7629:

Also, wtf 30 tactics without regen banners. Drop burning arrows, put in regen banners.

Inspiring Battle Standard heals for less than 200 HP/sec with only 200 Compassion.

Regen is all about the layers.
Healsig + def15 passive + regen bannah + occasional dogged march regen. In pve you would add pies for another layer.

You simply don’t take 30 in tactics without taking regen banners or shoutheals, that’s just bad. Also, you could try it with purple banner if you want to go fullon regen defensive.

The Dolyak6 rune regen is horrible. I really don’t recommend it.
Also, wtf 30 tactics without regen banners. Drop burning arrows, put in regen banners.

To see example of the working gameplay of swd/axe + bow pre whirl being broken.

I made that vid months ago . The post was first page on the bug forums for a solid 1 and a half before sinking. Still not fixed.

Melandru runes are expensive, but they do provide “no-condition-management” and that’s a huge huge thing.
- If you’re rich, buyorder/buy from lionco.
- For the poorer, liberate mel temple, grab a piece of each and fune transmo the rune onto the final armor piece. In this case the cost is related to gem costs but is still a lot cheaper than fullon buying the stuff.
- And of course the third option is the hoelbrak runes, which i’ve recommended to guildies myself.

The improved block on offhand sword is alright, but the change to torment on offhand swd4 is a bust. Before you would use double sword to have bleeds of a really crazy intensity…. i tried it with all sauces and i still thkn swd offhand lost with that change to torment.

well…. let us begin
1) axe5 whirl is currently broken and does not spread the fire anymore. I recommend swd/shield or swd/mace.
2) no tactics for 1200 bow. So no 1200condips ( not that it would be working with the current getup…. bringing us to point three…)
3) That armor getup is alright for an axebuild, but if you’re gonna go bow and swordmain, seriously consider all rabid armor (5 pieces avail thru temples, cheap on tp) + zerkback acessories. You’ll get that impact power you want, with conditions that still deliver. Try it on pizza (condiextend) + crystal crack (stronger condis). Fullon celestial also works, but you need to have the whole kit for it to be worth the squeeze.

Parasigil nerf turns fulladren macestun from a 4sec stun into a 3.45sec stun .

This is the way it should have worked from the beginning but the sigil was rounding up instead of giving the flat 15%. (turning the bonus from 15 to 33% )

This also affects necros ( since their fear was also being rounded up) . Stunlock gimmick builds will still work, but there’s gonna be more moments that the opponent isn’t completely helpless. And tbh I’m ok with that.

the upcoming update also closes some longstanding loopholes like stunbreakers not breaking out of push/launch ( which engys/eles have been using to land undodgable zerky chains on people for a long while with…not to mention the targetting upgrade that will nerf minion/spiritspam + miniasura.

Daecollo.9578:

Kaga.7629:

You do get some power from it, crit , prec, condipow and everything else for what matters with fullon celestial. You’re never gonna be able to have fullontrolololzerk damage AND the strong conditions…. that would be overpowered.

Using fullon celestial I can have every basic sword swipe do around 1-1.3K if it crits ( which is most of the times) and still have the bleeds go for about 100ish with a 0/25/20/10/15 build on pizza +crystals.

This isn’t theorycraftage. I took the time to craft that full set of celestial armor and to get all the pinkies because I knew it would push the limits on hybrid crit/conditions builds. It’s a little like Rabid armor + fullzerkback but better because you get higher crit bonus overall at the loss of a little power. Precision remains about the same.

Hencewhy EQUIPMENT ( and build, when it comes down to it) is key.

Because just bleeding is so OP compared to Burning/Poison/Torment/Bleeding.

Wow. Here you are crying for a solution to an issue and the solution gets delivered to you straight up, and all you can do is … be dismissive ?

You really think a true Bow+Swd/X condiwar would limit himself to “only bleeds” or that every other condition he applies wouldn’t also scale ?

What a joke you are.

Daecollo.9578:

Kaga.7629:

Because i care, i’ll even give you the ultimate hybrid crit/condi answer for warriors : ALL CELESTIAL ( armor + backpane)
You get the crit , the conditions and everything else to be able to run a viable hybrid build. Without having to beg the devs to change a trait to suit your needs….

Kay you do that and have no +power

You do get some power from it, crit , prec, condipow and everything else for what matters with fullon celestial. You’re never gonna be able to have fullontrolololzerk damage AND the strong conditions…. that would be overpowered.

Using fullon celestial I can have every basic sword swipe do around 1-1.3K if it crits ( which is most of the times) and still have the bleeds go for about 100ish with a 0/25/20/10/15 build on pizza +crystals.

This isn’t theorycraftage. I took the time to craft that full set of celestial armor and to get all the pinkies because I knew it would push the limits on hybrid crit/conditions builds. It’s a little like Rabid armor + fullzerkback but better because you get higher crit bonus overall at the loss of a little power. Precision remains about the same.

Hencewhy EQUIPMENT ( and build, when it comes down to it) is key.

If you want conditions, get equipment that will give it to you… Trying to have the trait changed just because you can’t be kitten d to gear yourself seems a little selfish daecollo. This is just like another post of yours where you asked devs to….. put bleeds on longbow’a autoattack ( and back then, the answer was sigil of earth!)

Because i care, i’ll even give you the ultimate hybrid crit/condi answer for warriors : ALL CELESTIAL ( armor + backpane)
You get the crit , the conditions and everything else to be able to run a viable hybrid build. Without having to beg the devs to change a trait to suit your needs….

in wuvwuv i like melandru for the condition no-management. in spvp i use lyssa for many reasons, but the fullcleanse + allboons part wins games when used at the right time.

I think this is a Q.Q invasion by someone who couldn’t deal. I’m in the top percentile for soloQ, and I can tell you that while warriors are indeed in a good place, they are not unkillable as you make it seem.

And now, you come in here, and want to nerf all the heals WORSE than they were and institute “changes” ?

Parasigil gets nerfed in less than 10 days —→hammah_macestun builds get shaved.

Steelo.4597:

removing 3 conditions every burst (up to 6-10 seconds) passively from a trait that also grants extra adrenaline is another story though. know any other class that gets something similar? no, some warrior builds get all their condition removal from a single passive trait with increased adrenaline regeneration even, really? i would rather warrior had more options to condition remove instead of one must have trait along with a synergy trait burst mastery that makes it really over the top.

It’s not a one trait thing. It’s a 50 trait points combo put together to archieve one effect. And you know what ? Quick burst has worked this way SINCE LAUNCH and the only “boost” to it was the general discipline rework that made it more critty and gave lowered recharge. Which, to a quickburst user as I was, meant a 1 second shave on burst recharge (crit bonus is nice tho and makes disc builds a lot more viable).

The solution is to wait til oct, THEN play for a week and THEN complain.
I swear the people that come down to this forum sometimes….

Gahzirra.8639:

Bear on the job.6273:

Also just to note, Settler and Dire have no ascended trinkets available. You can only get Apothecary. So if you are going for full ascended, you may want to start with Apothecary there, and fill in the gaps with Settler/Dire on your armor/weapons.

Didn’t look at settler but there is pretty much a Dire version… major stats are Tough, Vit, Condi…with a paltry 18 in precision.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Ralena's_Band
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Vassar's_Band

Way back in the days i was running a 0/0/20/30/20 condiwar build with bow+swd/axe ( when the whirl would actually work on axe5) with carrion armor, full dire/carrion stuff and it was alright…

Now with axe5 being broken and the new trait changes I paid the money, respecced and redid another version of this build using full ascended back and it was still quite viable. Food was pizza + crystals.

Went swd/shield+bow def20 (shieldmaster,cleansing ire) tac30 (stronger bowstrings, lung capacity, shoutheals) disc20 (signet mastery,inspiring shouts) and mending,for_great_justice,on_your_mark,shake_if_off,ragesig . You can also flip to regen banners + healsignet if you want to do a 3+layers of regen build.

Full dire armor would also work, but you might lose in power. Already this is a non critty build with stupidly strong conditions (extended by pizza) but it’s a little souless without crits.

For pve it’s strong since you have the resistance, selfheals and condicleanse to stay in the fight,. while your conditions cook the enemies quickly. It’s really difficult to kittenup in pve with this build.

Wuvwuv is also somewhat viable, altho the main issue you’ll have will be overall mobility ( aka you might get run down if you get split from the mob).

Until they fix axe5 ( see https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/VIDEO-Anet-stole-the-pewpews/first#post2608412) i dont think condiwar builds have the edge for wuvwuv…. but that’s my opinion from current observations .

well…. one workaround trick i’ve been using to counter the werido_obtructed bug is to always use ANOTHER ability ( i like 1,2 or 4 for this) to roughly “yardstick” if someone is in range before i blow my pindown.

Sometimes it’s the weirdo_obtruct or a terrain feature blocking it….. but often it’s people dodging+ lag or people skirting the edge of the bow range and the shot gets mislabeled as OOR instead of dodged. Also remember combushot is 1200 vs 1000 untraited bow, so that does confuse non traited users. the mini-REDBARS under the skills are just useless for range.

Since the patch this week any kind of competitive spvp/wuvwuv just went out the window with at least a 1-1.5second delay between when you click a skill and when it actually happens, on top of movement skills completely failing and glitching midway and other things, like skyhammer jumpads acting so wonky they’re simply un-usable.

In spvp it’s usually something like :
- you get disconnected from the servers for no reason mid match ( and no, it’s not the connection as my internet radio keeps playing thru it)
- the server hickups…… nothing happens for 3-4 seconds then it all catches back up…. and you get 4 second’s worth of hits in one shot.

In wuvwuv you get all kinds of randomness warpbacks, movement skills glitching or downright not activating. slower projectiles just glitch and fail to hit targets that aren’t moving….. overall just sad and unplayable.

It looks like either a cpu/band queing issue on the anet side….

Axe5 combowhirl still broken for now months.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/VIDEO-Anet-stole-the-pewpews/first#post2608412

To be a roamer you have to be strong. This isn’t PvD bullkitten where you tag people and get free xp all the time. If you’re gonna be serious about roaming, you have to understand that unless you bring top mobility to gain control over your fighting it’s very likely you will get run down by zergs sometimes..

My current wuvwuv build is a zerky melandru style with an optimised knight/zerk armorset, fullon melandru runes, dogged march, mobile strikes, bullrush,leek&poultry soup, zerky backpane and gs/swdmace.

With this you have a medium-strong zerk with strong defenses, condi self cleansing/no management and serious mobility to avoid randomzergs, get away from chasers and be able to CHOOSE YOUR FIGHTS. Which is a big deal.

What thekittenno !

Axe is fast attack direct damage while sword is currently condi/zerk style. Put down the pipe. Just put it down.

If you want bleed on your axe, PUT A SIGIL OF EARTH and get 10 in arms : problem solved.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/VIDEO-Anet-stole-the-pewpews/first#post2608412

the builds in the vid use a grandmaster of tactics, but until they fix the projectile issue with whirling axe i recommend swd/mace for offensive style condi builds. swd/shield is nice too since you can have it with cleansing ire.

I believe in a 50-50 approach. Get the zerk to do damage with each attack, but have some condipow to get that second layer of damage thru conditions ( that works while you’re not hitting a guy too )

One setup which worked out great for me in the past is rabid armor with zerky acessories. Right now i’m evaluating base celestial armor for hybrid builds and it’s looking very good.

RustyEyeballs.8927:

Ya, also in the patch the projectile combo’ing from the Longbow burst and Longbow auto attack was nerfed HEAVILY. Before you could get 2 fire applications on the Longbow ‘1’. Now it is just 1 and seemingly infrequent. Idk if these changes were targeted at the proc rate of all combo fields or specifically the warriors Longbow burst.

You need to have the 1200 bow trait (stronger bowstrings) to get reliable 100% finishers… otherwise it’s 20% per shot.

Defektive.7283:

Axe OH is under rated.

It used to be really really good with condition damage setups but it’s been broken for more than a month! Check out https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/VIDEO-Anet-stole-the-pewpews/first#post2608412 ( and it’s got a video) for details…..

Dropping a fullon combo on someone ( combushot, pindown, leaping into it, firewhirl and flurry) was usually crazy damage in spvp (fav spot was from topside of clocktower to middle cap). Without the whirl tho you’re slaved to your combushot placement for most of the fire damage.

Also : Offhand mace is amazingly good with sword main…. you can use mace4 as a strong attack/FT fakeout, and the knockdown from tremor is a teamsaver (esp when enemies try for a stomp). It’s also a great setup for final thrust.

You want more gameplay options? Help me fix axe 5.

You can go on the thread and check out the video. It explains it very well.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/VIDEO-Anet-stole-the-pewpews/first#post2608412

30/0/0/030 is what’s commonly called “Mack truck zerk” You get hit, and you wonder where the rest of the truck is….. it’s effective but incredibly glassy.

Most of the guys I know that go macktruck are the type to play the cooldown game…. frenzy-defypain invincizerkcharge….. and 60 second of hiding behind your friends.

If you like condition warrior gameplay, why don’t you help me fix axe5 ? it was the only real choice before the damage patch which messed up the whirl. Go at this bug thread. i put up a video that explains it all. Don’t forget to bump ^-^

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/VIDEO-Anet-stole-the-pewpews/first#post2608412

The best insult/part is that the thief stolen whirl still produces projectiles as normal ( on top of reflecting too !) . A pretty strong argument right there that something went wrong, and that there needs a fix to get done

Hello fellow warriors.

For now a long month axe ability 5 has had it’s spvp and wvw damage buffed. Sadly they also broke the combo finisher when this change happened. I’ve created a small gameplay video from archive clips to showcase the " lost" longbow + swd/axe playstyle, and I need YOU to help finish the job.

Please go on the bug thread (https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/VIDEO-Anet-stole-the-pewpews/2608412) and keep it alive. You will see there a link to the video showcase.

Thank you all, and let’s get the pewpews back!

(since i cannot imbed the video, please follow the link)

http://youtu.be/jvmNPv1HbEA

Hello everyone.

Warrior’s Whirling axe ( axe skill 5) used to be one of the best whirl finishers in the game due to the control you had over it and amount of times you could get a projectile out of that whirl. While the damage was boosted in wvw and spvp, the combo finisher associated with the skill was effectively broken in that update….. going from many projectiles to barely one.

Bug reports were submitted, threads were made…. but it wasn’t enough. So here’s a video that showcases the way it used to be…. versus the way it is now.

Please bump this thread and keep it alive, so warriors everywhere get the pewpew back !

So you want free pie, and then you want to eat it ?

Why dont you , instead, chat with warriors in your guild, and try things out ? Cuz i ain’t giving out free pies…

Veritas.6071:

Silver.4798:

I guess the best thing here would be to have 2 sets of armor and switch between the two… The condi build I have to say excels in solo play when doing map completion, the zerker warrior just dies too kitten much on his own to be a pleasant experience when PvE-ing. But I agree in dungeons if someone else is running bleeds that condi build becomes a lot less efficient. Blaaah.

There is no need for multiple sets. There are plenty of gear combinations capable of giving you good DPS, either direct or condi, and not leaving you as squishy as a full berserker.

Juggling the weapons, the armor, the pinkies to get those totals you “feel” are right is also part of the finesse of this. What you want … is to have some of that raw impact power with the conditions ( if strong enough) becoming that second layer of damage that works while you do your thing,

There’s even ways to make the whole build non critty and still deliver the woopdown if you go doubledown on conditions.

Ask any guys in my guild how much I preach about backpane improvement and “getting that pink”, improving that equipment and armor. There’s a reason.

BurrTheKing.8571:

Kaga.7629:

With some of the people populating this board, I feel no need to share builds . I’ll also mention that most of those begging for builds right now are the very same scrubs that said any gameplay other than fullzerk wasn’t worth the bother. Which goes to show…

I’ll leave the one tip that’s the most important in this thread tho : 1200 longbow is CRITICAL because it turns your basic shots into 100% finishers.

…..Stronger Bowstrings still reduces Dual Shot damage by 10%…

And you still dont get it. Shoot 2×100% finishers thru combushot and every #1 puts 2 fireprocs on the guy. Fan a guy at closerange in combushot and you effectively can put up to 12 seconds of burn on him (3 shots doing 2sec burn + 3 combos for 2s burn).

But no. OBVIOUSLY I’m the nub because the pewpews themselves do 40 less damage ?

Get real. 1200 bow is key.

I look at the build and it looks alright.
The only mistake to correct is to replace mace sigil with the +15% stun duration sigil (paralysation?)so you get those supersexy stunner hits extended. I would also recommend to consider replacing bullstrike with stomp for the extra stunbreaker.

These bugs are still unresolved and should be looked at, confirmed and scheduled for removal.

With some of the people populating this board, I feel no need to share builds . I’ll also mention that most of those begging for builds right now are the very same scrubs that said any gameplay other than fullzerk wasn’t worth the bother. Which goes to show…

I’ll leave the one tip that’s the most important in this thread tho : 1200 longbow is CRITICAL because it turns your basic shots into 100% finishers.

The condition warrior gameplay is normally VERY viable, but sadly a current bug with the whirl projectiles ( introduced on the 25th) is making it lose a lot of it’s punch at the moment ( due to no pewpews on the whirl).

Dontain’s video is nice for the gameplay showcase, but it was made while omnohms were still in season. His builds were also a little wonky . Foodwise I recommend going pizza/koi + crystals.

Normally extremely viable but equipment is key…. pre-80, go with carrion/rabid crests equipment. post80 get that exo gear and go either full carrion if you’re making a non critty build or full rabid if going for a critty build. ( Fact : you can get 5/6 rabid armor pieces off the orr temples. I got shoulders off CM.)

Daecollo.9578:

Don’t want to be mean, however since your condi you would just be holding back most blablablablabl

The forum warriors in this thread should speak if they have EXPERIENCE with this. If you do not know what you are talking about, then don’t say anything. And yes that means YOU D.

Not a bug. poison stacks in duration ( so if you got multishot by hyleks….. yeaaahhh), and yes, you should have condition removal.

War axe5 whirl finisher no longer shoots projectiles. Which is hilarious since the whirl finisher was the ONLY reason to use axe5 for a year .

It’s been a week. i want my combowar back.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/waraxe-5-whirl-no-longer-shoots-projectiles/first#post2289143

This is related to the general lag/skilldelay situation on the wuvwuv servers. The more enemies are around, the laggier it becomes, the more the client/server is “queing” ( as too many requests are being sent for them to deal with) ….. the more movement skills start failing.

Hell, just standing outside stonemyst in a crazy 3 way reset night fight once i activated bull’s rush. My icon took a while but eventually activated….then my character got into the bumping stance….. and did not move.

I also like when the sword leap skill , instead of going forward in an open plain (as it should be) sometimes will glitch go forward then * turn sideways* before cancelling at a much shorter distance than a “regular” forward jump.

Today’s patch has not yet resolved this issue.

June 27th patch did not fix this. Broken on the 25th ( not on the first iteration of the content patch, but in the first micropatch after that)

Defektive.7283:

Mist.8569:

So, what armor are you guys using with this build? Straight up zerker or you’re going for Rampager/Carrion for more condition dmg?

I don’t recommend going Condition damage.

Honestly, with this much in arms you’ve already got some respectable condition damage, why not use it? Hence my suggestion for 1200 bow.