Guild Wars 2

I’m no expert at thief but here’s what I think. Your small group build lacks a stun break, is squishy and lacks damage. Your power is ok, but you lack crit dmg, basically it looks like you are relying on poison for your main source of dmg, with no other cover conditions. I’d recommend dropping viper’s gear and just going full on condi with dire gear and weapons. P/D will be your main dmg set, and you can either keep D/P as an off set for easy stealth, or go shortbow for mobility. Here’s a link:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vZAQRAqY4alsMhimY3Tw0Jw/ELOF184n+xvXL8knHXAUADAA-TFSAABR/QAQV9HF1PMpSwxU+1z+DAcCAk+IAQIAFrBA-w

You can swap some things out obviously. If you think your group doesn’t need the stealth, swap out shadow refuge for another venom or impairing daggers for more dmg. You can also go undead runes for even more condi dmg + toughness.

Now, your solo build actually looks pretty decent. The only thing i will say is that having dash + Signet of shadows is pointless since dash gives you perma swiftness already. Swap out signet of shadows with either agility for extra dodges + crit chance, bandit’s defense for short stun break + block, or shadow refuge for more stealth. Once you feel comfortable enough I would also recommend dropping shadow arts for deadly arts instead. The traits there are just too good not to take. The loss of condi clear in stealth should not be an issue if you play smart. If you really need cleanse though, you can swap bountiful theft out for trickster so you get an extra condi clear on withdraw.

Fay.2357:

It’s okish. You don’t have CI, which is usually a pretty important staple of interrupt builds. You’ve also got basically zero defense. You’re relying completely on locking someone down offensively to stay alive.

You’ll have major problems with stability. You’ll also have major problems against other glassy roamers, thieves in particular.

Honestly, there’s a lot of good reasons you don’t see people running interrupt builds anymore. There’s a lot of stability, and a lot of builds/classes are able to just shrug off that sort of pressure.

Yeah I was messing around with this in pvp and wasn’t having much success haha. I guess i’ll give glass gs mesmer a try. My only worry is condi cleanse.

As the title says, i’m fairly new to mesmer. I mainly solo roam in WvW and really dislike the current meta condi build. I did watch a couple of old vids of an interrupt style build that looked quite fun though. I wanted to run something similar, but with chronomancer, so I fooled around a bit and came up with this: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQNAsaWlknhy0YNawINwtGLnGFZAsABVZJ8chTd0WtdLA-TVDBABZquDFPAAPOEAYpkiRlgapM4SVC6SpQR7PAwJAwLlIGqPojjAAhAGNGA-w

How do you think this would perform? What would you do differently? Any other advice?

AA nerf I can kinda see

HGH nerf is totally uncalled for though. I just don’t understand why they thought this was necessary.

Ok, here’s a list of things that I would like to see tweaked/fixed based on my experience so far:

Hammer

-#3 skill is very buggy. The first leap will launch me away from the target sometimes. Other times all 3 leaps miss the target entirely.

-#5 cooldown seems pretty long for such a short duration stun. Reduced cooldown or increased stun duration would be nice.

-Autoattack damage seems pretty low. Maybe give it a small 10% buff and see how it does.

Gyros

-All of them need their movement speed increased significantly. Right now they lag behind you a good bit if you have any speed buffs on.

-Medic gyro…I don’t even know where to start with this. The toolbelt skill is absolutely fantastic. I feel like the skill itself needs to have a condi cleanse or increased healing though.

-Blast gyro seems to get lost half the time after throwing the tracker dart at a target.

-Function gyro needs to be sped up a bit.

Traits

-In addition to granting stability to you and your function gyro, maybe have stabilization core also reduce the cooldown of gyros.

-Expert examination does not proc with net turret’s overcharge.

-Impact savant is pretty lackluster, even for a minor trait. Consider increasing atleast the outgoing stun durations, and leave the incoming stun durations the same. Also please add daze durations as well, both incoming and outgoing.

That’s all I can think of right now. Might come back to add more.

Sounds like cele might work, but I think Soldier’s will still be the go-to choice.

I was thinking of trying Soldier’s and taking Inventions+Tools+Scrapper. Grabbing both Bunker Down and Rapid Regeneration in the scrapper line. With streamlined kits you should have a constant regen effect up 24/7, in addition to the actual regeneration boon. Only issue i’m having is what utilities would be best here. I was thinking grenade kit, tool kit, and either slick shoes or elixir gun. Slick shoes would be good for the on demand healing sig effect from Rapid Regeneration, but elixir gun gives more utility obviously. The elite is going to be a toss up for me. Mortar kit/Elixir X/Stealth gyro depending on the situation.

The changes to grenades don’t bother me nearly as much as the fact that 409 was moved into tools for whatever reason. If that stays, elixir builds will be forced into taking 2 lines and the GM traits in both in order to get the most out of elixirs, which, excluding S, are pretty lackluster.

Really hoping either they buff 409 to the heavens as compensation, or just leave it alone and move it back to alchemy where it belongs.

Very good analysis. Can’t believe I actually read an entire thread for once!

And I just noticed there is a TBD where Energy Conversion Matrix is supposed to be. I didn’t catch that the first time for whatever reason..Your suggestion is good, but honestly I would rather they just not change it at all.

Yeah I’ve noticed this too. Seems like it has a 50% chance of working or not. Which kinda sucks because I use it to reflect ranger pewpew, so when it doesn’t work it leaves me standing out in the open feeling awkward

Got mine Thursday night from a reward chest. I was farming nearly all day Tuesday and Wednesday, and…half of Thursday? So..I’d say 20+ hours of farming easy.

Med Kit TBD (Field Medic) – 20% reduced CD, med kit skills are 20% more effective (antidote now removes 2 condis instead of just 1). You revive allies faster while you are in med kit.

Alchemy GM TBD (Deadly Mixture) – basically what you suggested. 20% CD reduction and +20% dmg to EG and FT.

Elixir gun TBD (Volatile Concoctions) – Condition durations of all EG skills are increased by 20%. Acid bomb lasts longer and super elixir heals for an increased amount.

Tools Master (Quick Thinking) – all gadgets remove a boon when they hit. Gadgets grant quickness when activated.

Tools GM (Empowered Armor) – Gain aegis when struck (15 sec CD). While you have aegis, all of your attacks deal 30% more damage.

^(Alternative) Tools GM (Force Field) – You take X% less damage when you have a boon on you (Synergy with speedy kits).

GM Gadget trait (Stroke of Genius) – gadgets have reduced cooldowns. Gadgets off CD now passively apply boons at set intervals (basically what you suggested).

Sorry if this looks a bit sloppy xD

Blast finishers for DAYS

Overall my build got buffed massively. Favorite part was the change to juggernaut and the merge of speedy kits and kit refinement. Oh and the addition of 1000000 more blast finishers. Kind of sad that they didn’t do anything about the global CD of kit refinement though. I love that trait so much but the cooldown is killing me.

edit: forgot about…ROBO LEGS!

Wow it’s finally over…is this even real?

Nice work. Would you mind posting your build? I was trying to guess it last night just from watching the video. I didn’t notice empathic bond going off so i’m guessing either 6/6/2 or 6/6/0/2. Usual longbow traits, quickdraw, trap potency. Oh and trapper runes obviously. As far as gear goes, I’m guessing full zerk. You definitely have more guts than I do. I don’t set foot in wvw without empathic bond or SotF.

Brother Grimm.5176:

Andred.1087:

Mechanic?

Ah! Arch-enemy of the Antagonizer!

Oh man that takes me back haha.

Demolitionist
Machinist (is that even a word?)
Forgeman/Forgemaster

all those sound good to me

This thread shall be kept alive by my burning hatred for the hobosack!

-Purchased The Hunter a few days before the HoT announcement that sent precursor prices spiraling

-pressing the wrong key and knocking myself off a cliff in EotM (thank you engi rifle)

Just had a thought, maybe the bots will function like the elementalist’s rock barrier, granting you increased toughness for each bot that is active or something. Secondary skill might be something like a self destruct command, dealing damage to nearby enemies. In which case, the bots may actually be a weapon skill tied to the hammer, and not utilities.

Yamsandjams.3267:

While I don’t disagree with the OP, I almost want them to leave SD alone out of fear they’ll attach an ICD in order to “keep things balanced” and completely butcher nearly ever SD build in one fell swoop.

Either that or they’ll reduce the damage by 30% to compensate. And no, that joke is never going anywhere.

Basically this.

They have pretty much left static discharge alone since…forever. Part of me wishes for it to be fixed, the other part of me wants them to just continue leaving it alone.

Assassin.7890:

I would love to see some comments from anet employees regarding this matter.
Are they considering something different to the current appearance and mechanic? Will this issue, requested in a big scale, addressed?
Having really any comment on the current state would be very appreciated.

Don’t know if you have read them already, but there are a couple responses on page 25.

Sold Out.7625:

Quickly making sure this does not slip to page two.

And do not fret yet, gentlemen. Anet may have disappointed in the past, but all good things can come in the future. And what better time to fix hobosacks than an expansion? Of course it would not get a separate announcement. Fixes aren’t features.

So let us watch, be ready, and prepare congratulatory whiskey bottles for our celebration, kept safe in backpacks full of them that look like they were made out of badly stitched rags.
______________________

For we.

Are.

The Engineers.
_______________________
The eternal fighters of the hobosack. Need we grenade them, bomb them, nuke them away, shrink them with alchemy or dissolve them. Let them -try- to envelop us. But they will NEVER break us.

Gentlemen! My brethren! We fight this war for GLORY! For PRETTINESS! For BACKPIECES! SO RAISE YOUR KITS UP HIGH! LET THE FLAMETHROWERS LIGHT THE PATH TO OUR HOBOSACK-LESS FUTURE! FOR WE CAN ONLY KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT, BOMB-KIT OUR WAYS TO FREEDOM!

And soon… it shall be the hobosacks that shall smell the Ashes.

You have my wrench.

Ferraro.6125:

Yes.

What kind of question is that haha

Removal of engineer hobosacks.

Cyborg.

With power fists.

Not really speculation..but that’s what I want >.>

Race change kits.

Yeah, I went there.

10/10 would watch again

WvW updates
perma SAB
new PvP maps/modes
WvW updates
new world bosses
new maps
GUILD HALLS
WvW updates
WvW updates
“Elite” and “solo” modes for dungeons
uhh WvW updates

oh and…

WvW updates.

45% condi thieves
45% condi mesmers
10% everyone else

This is what I have encountered while roaming during the past few weeks. Might just be bad luck, who knows.

Down with the hobosacks!!! DO IT ANET!!

…Please?

Engineers need it because pistol auto attack is worse than bad.

TheDevice.2751:

Mayama.1854:

TheDevice.2751:

Mayama.1854:

8-12 cd on each weapon skill? Did you ever play one? and they cant do that all in one spec…

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlUUpPr1XxELseRSbBFqYAyMMCRlxPvgAkUA-TpgTQA5yAg9HAA

sry

No one plays that… and you completly ignore your wrong statement that you can get a 12cd on each weapon skill. You even post it with cleric amulett and vampiric runes, things that no one uses. Its some squishy VERY WEIRD power build that is not meta at all in sPvP. No speedy kits etc… very strange trait selection no engi would use, ever. Also stealth and stability is not something you can spam with that build. Please play a class for some month bevor you post some weird kitten build to proof your point.

You seem to spread alot of engi hate in every thread you post because of some unexplained personal problem against the class.

I don’t like engineers so much be cause they are the obvious favorite class of the devs.

Thanks for the laugh. I really needed that.

Basaltface.2786:

Basaltface.2786:

im a hobby 3d artist… and i BET i can mesh something thats 100 times more appealing in less then an hour… actually lemme do that (post will be updated as soon as i got something meshed…shouldnt take long)

Update: Here we go… i wont bother to go into more detail mesh wise.. just proving a point in how a fuel tank could look appealing and STILL be neutral enough but whatever.. a-net doesnt give a kitten anyways.

http://www.pic-upload.de/view-24159790/Hobowhatever.jpg.html

Edit: aaaaand i couldnt let it go. Since engineer stuff is charr stuff i “charrified” it a little.. and right away added a fitting flamer. So yea… now i got my inner peace

http://www.pic-upload.de/view-24161717/Hobowhatever-with-flamer.jpg.html

10/10 nice work sir. Best part is no ugly looking rag is attached to the back of it.

1. Fix steal, as others have said
2. increase the damage bonus from pistol mastery to 20%
3. Decrease the cast time on unload
4. options for condi removal outside of SA (pain response is unreliable, doesn’t count)
5. remove traps or atleast cut the cooldowns by half, cooldowns are stupidly long right now considering the effects are almost useless
6. slightly increased radius on blackpowder smoke field
7. reduce the base cooldown of RFI, reduce the initiative gain to compensate
8. dancing dagger no longer bounces, instead it applies poison and a longer cripple
9. reduce the base cooldown of all venoms
10. IF NOTHING ELSE, PLEASE REMOVE LAST REFUGE, THAT TRAIT ANNOYS ME TO NO END

might actually be able to stand toe to toe with those pesky pu mesmers now

People are going to complain. Doesn’t matter what build or weaponset you use. I run a stealthless s/d evasion thief and still get complaints. I bet i could stand still and people would probably complain that i’m not dying fast enough.

There are those rare occasions where someone will actually be polite after a fight..but hey, it’s easier to blame your loss on another class rather than admit you made mistakes.

Maugetarr.6823:

I would rather see flashing blades added as a grandmaster trait in the acro line. Something like when you successfully evade an attack it deals a certain amount of damage back to the target in the 130 range and blinds the attacker in the 240ish range.

OP? No more so than retaliation especially since it would only trigger on evade. The blind would also prevent excessive amounts of damage as the next attack would miss rather than being evaded. Plus it’s close combat range only for the damage.

I’ve never played Gw1, so i’m unfamiliar with how flashing blades works. However, I could see something like this working. Another possibility (I’m just throwing this out here) could be an elite signet of some kind.

Example:

Flashing Signet:

Signet passive: Every 10th attack causes blindness (blindness: 5s)

Signet active: Cause distortion for 2 seconds (Cooldown: 60s)

Although you might have issues with weaponsets like s/p and p/p which spam alot of attacks…

This is a l2p issue for 99.999% of the people in this game, seriously. Thief is right behind ranger as the easiest class to kill for me. If people would take a few minutes every day to get aquainted with the thief class and learn it’s ins and outs, I can guarantee nobody would be complaining anymore.

About the upcoming changes: Could be a nerf or a buff. If it’s a nerf then thieves will feel it the most. If it’s a buff then we will barely notice it (I’m looking at you, assassin’s reward.)

And after I just finished getting zerker gear for my S/P thief..devs decide they want to change crit dmg…

Dolt.2731:

I just want the cast time reduced, stupid ridiculous.

Oh instant cast would make me so happy. You have no idea. Hell, i’d even settle for 1/4 sec cast time. I’d still be the happiest engi ever!

ukuni.8745:

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

Either way I want to actually be able to play my engineer without feeling like a scrub playing the easiest and most OP profession.

this right here makes me think this guy is 100% just trolling

pza.8024:

if you want to have an advantage over the enemy, pick asura. their animations are the hardest to tell imo. also you’ll be wearing a less huge hobosack disgracing your screen.

aside from that, humans got the best looks.

This.

Well done sir. I don’t think I could have pulled that off if i was in your shoes! kudos to the thief as well for keeping his word and letting you cap the tower.

Travelers. Frees up a utility slot for me so i don’t have to run that blasted signet of shadows.

Doomdesire.9365:

It’s viable until you meet a Diamond Skin Ele, then you might as well waypoint.

Funny you should mention that. Literally like 2 minutes after the patch comes in, I run into a DS ele while soloing a camp. Had to run away cause I didn’t have enough power to punch through DS. The measly damage I was dealing, he just healed right away to keep his health above the threshold.

Thanks for sharing your build. I’ve really been enjoying this in WvW. I decided to throw some cavalier items into the mix for a little bit of toughness. Also took shadowstep instead of refuge. Other than that, most everything is the same. Great build

Only trait i’ve never used would have to be acidic elixirs.

I mostly use FT for the toolbelt skill, since it’s kinda difficult to keep burning up at all times with p/s. That said, I do occasionally switch to it and use 2-5. #5 has saved me so many times from eating big hits when i’m down.

Race change please. There are days (every day) when i just curse myself for making a human engi instead of an asura engi. Already level 80, completed personal story, unlocked loads of rare dyes, jetpack, rank 80 in wvw, etc…sooo yeah leveling another toon of the same profession doesn’t really appeal to me..Would gladly drop $20+ dollars for it

chungiee.8764:

Fixing the bugs would be a start

Interesting. I always wanted to try out an all gadget build. I will definitely give this a go. Thanks!