Guild Wars 2

@Arius : We can still complaint so maybe someday, Arena.net will find a solution for low population server vs full server. If we keep it silence, it will stay like that and each week we will see half the match up being one sided. Once one server take the lead, the other can’t come back.

I don’t have a solution that wouldn’t hurt the winning server, but I’m sure you guys agree that this week would have been better with a closer match up.

And who said that we can’t organize will being vocal on the forum? Because that’s exactly what we are doing! We just need time since we just lost ANV.

And Worban, I think a week without hacking have been wonderful. I’m glade our 3 server didn’t get any hacker to make it worse.

We had some good fight, nothing game changing, but we had fun time. On Ar, we just have to convince people to do something else then Karma Train. We know if we attack a tower, we will prolly not get it, or lose it half an hour later, but it still a lot of fun.

Holding the camp in EB with Ballista yesterday was some good time, and trying to siege your bay fully upgraded with full supply was fun too, even if we got wiped. :P

iii should just stick to leading your group in WvW and let you handle the diplomacy!

Just saw your last post Arius.

How is Zulu post different then your : it was well written and some of the thing you said were true. But it just boiled down to how much you think AR is doing wrong. Why did every DH poster jump d on the wagon and started saying we were bad at pvp?

At least Zulubeast was on your server, you didn’t even try AR :P

iii did a post with all the map being green, cracking a joke and rubbing it in our face, and after another post patting himself on the back for spawn camping us. I didn’t see anything like that from FC or AR?

But yeah, about the retreating during team fight, did you see me post? I explain why we took an habit of running awat. Your zerg is never from the fight, so 90% of the time if we stay, we will die under number.

And Arius, if it’s all about skill and tactics, can you explain me how, during our only peak of the week, the friday night during reset, DH was in the last place? It was the only time during the week that we had queue in borderland, and you were finishing third? I don’t mean to say that we are better than you, but I think we number, we are pretty even.

Or how can you explain it? We all know Friday night is the only night most low tier server have numbert in borderland. So pretty much even number all around.

Sadly we lost everything during the night :P

And I wasn’t refering to the ranking when I said we were in the worse spot, I was refering about to the challenge we receive each week. We always finish second, so we always stay in that tier. The gab between the server ahead of us is just to big. I don’t mind losing, but I would like to at least have some great match up like we had on friday night.

Our best match up would be Boris Pass, Fergusson Crossing and Anvil Rock. We are 3 similar server. But sadly, it can’t happen right now. It would only happen if a top server would fall down to the last place.

So it really has nothing to do with ranking.

But there is no point arguing over who’s better and who’s worse, or any point at saying we are worse in low scale pvp, it doesn’t help anyone.

Lets just finish this week and hope the next one will be better

But don’t get too many people Fatboy, maybe we will get a pretty good fight next week!

As always, I thank you for your advice, and we are already using them. We have TS server, we have commander, we are using tactics.

There is a reasonwe back away, and it’s simple : I will take yesterday as an example as what happen when we don’t back away.

We were roaming in EB, and we encountered a group. They were around the same number as us, so why not try to fight them. We started the fight and it was doing well, but it take time to finish a group. We were rezing our player, they were rezing there. About 30 second in the fight, there number started growing. Then Trebs started shooting at us. At the end, the group was twice our number with siege supporting them.

We called reinforcement, but 15 players was all we had. So yeah I think our server will favor backing up from fight. Even if it would be a fair fight. 90% of the time, we know their zerg will come with bigger number. We can’t afford to stay at the same place for too long. That’s why we are using Karma Train, we move around taking camp and we don’t stay at the same place. We can’t stop for skirmish.

You say we are acting like teenager, well if it sound like this for you, so be it. And yeah, we prolly have it worse then anyone else except kaidengt (the last server, dont remember the name). We didn’t get a win nor a fair fight since the release of the game. We are stuck in a tier that will be like that for weeks, because of how the tier are done.

Worban : We had an alliance, it felt apart, we are trying to come back from there now. The funny thing about your server, is that yes you got stomped like us by Yak. But at least, you didn’t get that each week after. If you check the ranking at http://mos.millenium.org/matchups, We have the tier with the largest gap of all, EU and NA.

So you ask us why we complain? Hell most of us didn’t complain until people like iii started rumbing it in our face. I don’t mind losing, but saying it’s only because we are unskilled people is unfair when we are outnumbered.

Oh and Arius, I fought outnumbered and won too. We can’t base people skill around that. I doubt you can evaluate a complete server skill on a few fight that you won.

This week is over, I don’t know why this discution has to continu. Nothing DH or AR will say will change anything. Let just wait until reset and never see each other server again.

Even with orb hack, I continu to prefer NSP over DH for the sportmanship. If we have to work on our skills, you have to work on your behavior.

So you’re frustrated because people run away, hide and dance at you. Grow up man, it’s the internet thing like that will always happen.

If you remove the invul buff, then will you build siege just outside to camp even farther? If you don’t, other people will do it.

They ran from you, you already won the fight, but they could escape. If you let somoene escape to their base, you don’t deserve to kill them. Next time just ambush the Karma Train.

So what iii? How can you kill us more then right now? Do everything you can to kill us man, what ever it means. Like if it wasn’t the point of WvW.

I will just kill that half naked norm like we did yesterday. Not like charging blindy in us was a good idea. Tho it still work when you are 30-35 with orbs vs 10 players.

Mug, We didn’t have arrow cart because it was our second try, and we didn’t really prepare it. It was just for fun, and it worked as I had a lot of fun. Well I didn’t see any real tactic from outside attacker, they only bull rushed inside. Not that I said we had any good tactic ether except turteling with ballista.

And it would have been hard even with arrow cart, since the ennemy didn’t render until they were on top of us.

About it iii, I didn’t complaint about rendering before 2 day ago, when it started happening to me. I don’t know if it’s only me, but usually I never have this issue. And I got a High end video card and cpu, so no idea.

I’m sure you don’t complaint about lack of players, since player can’t even transfer to your server because it’s full. How would you complaint about that?

We aren’t the best pvpers, we have bad gear, we have likely half our people that are under lvl 80 and our communication is not the best. But it still don’t change the fact that you badly outnumber us, and only when we will have similare number I will accept the fact that we are bad.

P.S : Balidore that was the first stand that we didn’t have much siege to defend, anyway there zerg were right next so we didn’t have time to build anything.

I’m from Avil Rock and I concure, what Fergusson Crossing lack in number, they make it with good pvp skills.

They are a really respectful server and if anyone is looking for some challenge and good fights, you should join them!

Good luck!

Arius,

I didn’t have a bad opinion about your server until people like iii and MasterPyro started to post.

But yeah, I won’t judge a complete server over 2 players. Northenpeak were stomping us too, and we had some issue with them, but nothing like those 2 player bad attitude. This is the internet

MasterPyro,

Finaly somoene spoke for us. All the time I zerged a server only to have them retreat and what? Hiding in their camp? What the hell?

Can’t the 5 of them come out and fight our 20 player zerg like a man? What a bunch of loser! Can’t take 4v1, I would totally do it.

Anyway, since they are already getting stomped, I’m pretty sure they have plenty of gold to pay for repair. So what if they die? At least they tried!

Those loser that refuse to fight our zerg, they don’t deserve that buff. I should be able to cast my invul buff and go kill them in their spawn point.

Not like they deserve anything else for having low pop and low level players!

P.S : And what about those escape mecanism and running away from fight? You shouldn’t be able to run away, there should be an auto snare as soon as you turn around to run. PvP is for real man! You win or you die!

/SARCASM OFF

And don’t tell me you are from DarkHaven too? I think iii was the only troll they had.

People who want to join DH should first check the kind of post iii is writing. Then you will know the kind of individual he is. When even people from is server are sorry about is behavior, it says something.

I have nothing again DH, but when your leader is such an arrogant character, you won’t get any sympathy.

Wow, thats iii guy, gotta be the most dellusionnal guy around here.

Each time I see one of your post, you’re saying non-sense.

I was there during the Plagoss or whate ver the name of the camp in the cave is. We were around 10-15 player with ballista inside and I farmed kill during at least 5 minute before you entered. I think I got like 10 kills until your zerg of around 30 people got inside our 10-15 man ( mostly under 80).

The main reason why we lost this cave was that once your charged, we couldn’t see your army. The rendering bug kicked in and I couldn’t shoot anyone because I couldn’t see, and I got killed by invisible ennemies.

I never saw a zerg on Anvil Rock, stop getting number out of your kitten Our zerg is about 20 players, and each fight we lost yesterday we were ether outnumbered, or had trebuchet/cata shooting at us at the same time.

I hope your elite skill iii will show up in your next tier.

And I sure reconize your char during the camp fight, and we all saw you die first. You charged in blindly and got killed right away. You died right at my feet, even the game know your value and your loot was some dirty grey shoes.

P.S : The holod of the camp was only for fun. We had been doing Karma Train on every Borderland, and now we wanted some PvP. Our group was mostly under 80 player, unexperienced, but we still had a blast.

P.S : I took some screenshot, but I’m not home yet, I will post them later.

Leiloni.7951:

I think the server ranking system does a decent job of pairing up servers with a close enough skill level, but the bigger issue is when people can log in and play..

Depend of the tier. The 2 last tier just can’t be solved by the current ranking system. The last tier always have a server that totaly dominate them, and the same thing for the tier ahead. The step between some server is just too huge.

When Borliss Pass or Fergusson get thrown in the last tier, they are just too strong for them. Sadly, each week, one of them is thrown there.

That’s why I like the idea of the dragon. Ranking can’t solve some issue, but some chaotic PVE event like that might at least make it less painful. Being able to hold a keep or a bay from time to time give people hope and raise the moral!

@Scilly

More pve to create more pvp.

I’m sure most people in DH (dominating server this week) are not having fun controling all the map. Same thing for the 2 other weak server, it’s not always fun to be outnumbered and having to siege fully upgraded with siege weapon keep.

Borderland are empty outside the primetime (about 2 hours a day) so their no real pvp except spawn camping and Karma train(pve).

With a chaotic pve event like the dragon, people would come back in WvW. It’s like the friday after the reset, the borderland are full because people know there will be action. You will siege tower and defend and have good fight. Same thing for that kind of pve event, you know the ennemy will be in trouble and you will be able to launch attack and have some pvp.

I like the idea, not sure of the result, but it would create some dynamic!

I wans’t asking for your help, but if you want to convince us that it’s not about number, you should at least try it once.

I’m not asking for perma transfer, I’m asking for a try out. Come try to fight an ennemy that is twice your size outside of 1-2 hour during primetime. You’ll see that even with tactics and communication, it’s hard to come back.

Caliburn nice Text

But yeah, we did hold up early Friday.

But We never had so many people at the same time. I think it’s something about people thinking that maybe for once, we will be able to be competituve. Or maybe just because everybody want to try to caps the empty maps as soon as reset occure.

It’s something that happen on every tier, each friday during reset W3 will be full. Sadly, our population don’t have enought hardcore pvpers to keep it like that all week long.

As soon as your night crew took over and took the control of the map, we lost a lot of player. (the map was all green, it isn’t good for the moral :P)

Fair weather player saw that we lost everything, and just gave up. And we can only have equal number during the evening, between 9pm and 12pm. The fact that we lost one of our top guild (TFO) didn’t help ether. And now this week we lost ANV, so it’s even worse.

In resume, we just don’t have the number to keep it like it was on Friday night. Friday night is a peak in WvW population, but it only happens once a week.

But it’s true that on that friday night, with equal number, we were giving you a pretty good fight Would be cool to always have that!

And those kitten Orbs! I like the idea and all, but once you get zerged, those Orbs just make it worse!

@iii So in your head, we aren’t doing any of those right? We are just running around attacking garrison with 1 ram.

Right

Yesterday is a good example of what we did. We took every player from every borderland, going around and calling them to come to DH borderland. After 10 min of rallying, we still dind’t have the BL full, no queue. So what ever, we will try anyway.

We sent a little team to take camp and win us some time. The other got closer camp and got supply to siege. We did a 2 min siege of our bluebriar tower. Part of us stayed, and the other group went to scout around the Bay.

We had scout roaming around to watch for your zerg. It came from the east keep. They attack bluebriar tower. We hold it as long as we could to hold some time for our siege team.

Sadly you guys already had crazy number going around. Seriously, I saw the zerg and I knew even with everyone in the BL, we couldn’t stop it. Too many people, with Orb buff.

Once the tower felt, our group went north with the siege team in the bay. The outer wall was breatch, they were starting to siege the bay Inner wall.

Destroyed every ennemy siege, placed catapult, ram and ballista. We still were around 20-25 player at that point.

We got the gate to around 70%, then they started repaired it. They had 1700 supply inside, so the gate was goign down really slowly.

There were so many people on the wall defending now, that they wasn’t even rendering for me. The gate was starting to repair itself faster then we could damage it. Our scout called for a group coming from behind. It was over.

Say what you want about the number, but we know it’s not even. Except during primetime (9pm to 12pm if we are lucky) I always get the outmanned buff. And terribly out manned. During the evening, we had about 5 players in DH BL.

I didn’t see any different siege strategy from your server ether? Most of the time, you build cata or trebs, and protect it with your zerg. Since we don’t have time to build defence once we control a tower, and we don’t have the number to get inside your zerg, we are done for. We lost our tower yesterday by your zerg that built 2 ram. Seems pretty basic for me.

Mine to give me example? How can we be more efficient with siege, you are only saying we are doing it wrong, but no explanation.

And like I always say, if it’s so simple, why don’t you tranfer to our server until Friday to try. Free transfer, nothing to lose.

Well since you are still in the top tier, I think server like Kaineng need guild a lot more then you. At least you are still competitive.

There is no Queue in Kaineng or any other low tier server. And they didn’t flood the forum about being the best server around.

I know it won’t happen, But I actually like your Teams match up ahahah. Could be fun :P

@Mug
Yeah well we can’t farm player like you, since we have been on a losing streak since the beginning. We don’t have the orb bonus, we didn’t have the PVE boost from controling all the map. So yeah, we are prolly outgeared too.

Always getting killed means always having to repair your gear. When I join WvW I know that if I don’t karma train (hit and running camp), I will prolly pay more in repair then what I will get by looting.

By open field, I think he meant during a fair fight. Yesterday when we fought for a tower, the fight was pretty even. We had some good number and DH too, and each team won some fight and lost some fight. That’s moment like that that make me realize that with number we could put up a pretty good fight!

To those saying that without ANV we are going to the bottom, well since ANV left, Ferg didn’t get more points then usual. It still feel the same for me. The change might be harder next week during reset, but new people will come and a new guild will take their place.

Yesterday I saw a new guild created from old ANV members that was recruiting, so not all of them left.

I’m pretty sure we will keep the same pace now then before, just with differente people.

P.S : DarkSavage guild is taking over ANV role, and he is doing a fairly good job. We had really fun fight yesterday thanks to him.

Bash.7291:

MVP left first, went toa server who is in 3rd on points. TFO moved to a server who is top of their bracket but, Not sure how they are doing atm. And ANV is on a server that is second place on points in there current match up. So 2/3 are currently not on top of their tier servers atm. But also have no clue how TFO is doing. So to say the guilds moved to winning servers isnt exactly true.

You are still leaving an undernumbered server, for a server that have a night team ( that’s what nonomnom said). That mean you are joining a server with a fairly good population already. This is the kind of move that make match up worse!

Arius I know what you mean and personnally I have no problem with that.

It just the context that make it harder for people, since you are saying something like that while you are stomping both other server.

Dovgan.8605:

@Bash Wouldn’t that be a text book definition of an easier situation. I am not saying easy, just easier.

Yep.

@Bash : Farewell, myself I’m not leaving this server until we get merged!

@DarkSavage : You did a wonderful job, we tried everything we could to take this tower. Too bad we weren’t enought people and the ennemies had infinite supply from owning the map. They just fully repaired the tower each time.

Don’t give up SoS, we need more guild like you. Guild that won’t give up! I will fight at your side until the end!

By the way, I didn’t really see speed hacking. I saw a guy that kept warping around, so hard to hit. But since I don’t know every class, I thought it was normal.

Don’t give up AR and FC, we might owns a Tower for 30 minutes before Friday!!

By the way check this :
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups

We currently have the worse match up NA/Europe.

Well if you check the ranking tool posted on this forum, This math up is the worse match up of all.

NA and Europe together, kitten that hurts

@Pictures : The same could be said about BP, when we were fighting for the orb and you would attack our keep during that time.

It’s a war, everything happens, you can’t control everyone.

The weird thing tho, is we don’t seems to have this issue with Fergusson. Didn’t see anything about weak server attacking each other. But we don’t ally ether.

I don’t think it would change anything. Most people I know doesn’t join WvWvW not because of the score, but because we can’t hold anything. Removing the score won’t help the stomping issue.

If your bathroom is full of sh**t, you don’t blindfold people so they go in anyway. You wash the god hamn sh**t.

This idea would destroy people getting stomped.

Our situation is hard enought right now, please don’t make it worse

Personnally, hitting a tower with full upgrade and siege is chaos for us. Trust me, it will cost us a lot and we prolly won’t succed in sieging it.

Yesterday, we went a full evening attack a tower NEXT to our spawn point. We ninja 2 camps, got some supply and build 2 trebs with arrow cart and ballista to protect it. We even had 2 rams at one point. Sadly we never got inside.

We battled for what, 1-2 hours, and we never got inside.

With an outnumbering arming coming to defend the keep, we had everyone trying to protect the treb. Sadly, each time we had the gate to 50%, they were making a big push and forcing us to stop hiting the gate a bit. Since they controled all the maps, they got all the supply around and repaired the gate to 100%. EACH TIME.

Oh you are getting close? Here we fully repaire the gate please trying again. Oh and we built Trebs too and we just destroyed every siege you had.

No please, for outnumbered server it’s already a chaos to get a tower. Don’t make it impossible for us.

Well Anvil Rock have been in that spot since release, so I feel you man! :P

The ranking has an issue that I don’t know how they can resolve. My tier ( and it seems yours too) have a huge population disparity with the tier ahead of us. We got a perma outmanned buff except maybe during 1-2 hour primetime with them. Sadly each week, one of them is going down, stomping our kitten

And since Anvil Rock always finish 2nd, we stay in that tier. The score with the third place is close, but to this day we always finished second, and prolly this week too. Sadly, it means that next week we will fight another outnumbering server.

Until we finish third, we will always be stuck getting stomped by one server.

Anvil Rock, Ferguson and Borliss Pass would be the perfect match up I think, but sadly it won’t happen because of the ranking.

I don’t know how we can resolve that!

But guys just wait until next week for joining them! They have enought player for this week!

Currently the leader have such a great advantage that allying with the other losing server is the only solution. Sadly, it’s really hard and I didn’t see anyone pulling it off. Without communication, it’s just random

You outnumber us 3 to 1, how are we supose to get better and beat you? Really man? Why dont you switch with us, and try your tips.

Come try it, if it works I will owe you. Everyone think it just a matter of “learn to play” “come on newbs”. Just come try it.

Runeblade you really seems to an issue with Anvil Rock. You seems to know a lot about us, do you play with us? Because to say such thing, you have to be with us right?

Well I have been raiding camp for 1 month at least. I’m getting bored of doing that. Can’t remember the last time we didn’t get outzerged when we tried to push.

Nice post.

Nomnomnomnom : If you read my original post, you will see after my title I explain why I think it’s wasn’t all that bad that you changed server. Don’t focus on the title, it was just a sentence to bring emphasis on my explaination after.

I didn’t do this post because I was bitter at you, if you re-read it, I did it to tell people what happen when you get ranked with an outnumbering server each weeks. We lose our people.

I think I was hoping that Arena Net could see this and think about how we are ranked can hurt a server or how underdog can perform in WvW.

Or maybe they will let AR die so they can merge it! :P

Kodiack : I totally agree, 100%!!

Squeal : We are cool then

Crawford are you angry much? We said it was a out of control guild that did that, a guild I never saw again in the WvW. There is nothing we can do to stop them. And just to clarify, it doesn’t have anything to do with the current subject so I won’t lose more time.

Hey Squeal, like I said, ANV did wonderful thing for Anvil Rock, but don’t expect me to cry about how people talked smack to Nomnonmom. We are on the internet, I don’t know if it’s your first time here, but thing like that happen, a lot. You will be kitten talked, and people will give you advice.

Even if they don’t have a blue arrow, some people know their thing too. And sometime, when you don’t tell them about your plan, it’s hard for other to understand your move. We can’t follow blindly somoene, even if he have a blue arrow.

You paid for the commander book, I didn’t, so what? You expect us to be at your feet because 500 players gave 20 silver to the guild. Won’t happen for me. As always, I owe your guild for most orb siege and all, but when you post like that, it feels like we are kitten and you are the king around. I just don’t like the attitude.

I wish you guys the best of luck, and hope your next server will be fun. If you ever get bored of PvG (seems like you are going to an oceanic server to fight Gates?) Anvil Rock will be happy to welcome you back.

Because we will fight until the merge of the server, and we will raid some camp kitten everyday until then! Prepare your tower to be randomly hold for 5-30 min each days!

P.S : Squeal I didn’t want to sound rude by the way! I repeat it for the third time : I loved raiding with your guild.

Rats isn’t mean to be an insult. Rat have a bad reputation, but they are actually great creatures. They are leaving something that is about to sink, there’s nothing wrong in that. I have difficulties accepting it, since myself I can’t do that, some kind of pride about our server, and love of being the underdog.

IronWolf is right, once a server hold the maps, the two others servers cant come back. We can’t build supply fast enought to defend our tower.

Every Green tower is fully upgraded most of the time, so we have to use everything to get inside. Once we have it, it seems like green call out every players they have in others borderland, and come zerg it. We can’t stop it. We don’t have supply yet.

We will just fight guerrilla style until the end.

I thought we had another big guild around? I didn’t see them for quit some time. Not sure they are still there.

I agree that ANV was the reason we were still in that tier, but that mostly because they had half the server in their guild. I didn’t see much strategy except take very supply and zerg with the blue dot. But it was still better then everything else we had.

Elderan : I was being sarcastic, but it’s hard on a forum :P

Arius : We had this issue EACH week, and we will get it next week too since we are stuck finishing 2nd each time. It’s not being stomped that make it bad, it’s being stomped each week.

It gets hard on the server Moral, especially when we know it will be the same next week.

So yeah, I learned today that our biggest guild was prolly transfering to an oceanic server (ANV).

First I argued with them leaving, telling them they are affraid of challenge and everything you can tell about it…

But I was left with no argument to counter them.

They were telling me how it was bad to spend all their money during the day to defend, only to come back the morning after and everything was gone. Litteraly, when I wake up, the map is all green and every tower is fully upgraded. Didn’t know how to respond to that.

Somoene told me : This is a game, we don’t have fun anymore, so we switch. I had nothing to respond to that ether. Our WvW in AR is limited to call out for a group, get 5-10 players togheter if you are lucky and roam around hit and running camp. If you try to defend it, be sure a zerg 2-4x outnumbering you will come.(It’s happened twice today, it take about 5-10 min). That’s all we do all day long, hit and running. At least we have our outmanned buff to help us (oh well).

I’m still having fun, sure its getting boring sometime, but I’m staying on AR. The only good thing I can expect from that is that MAYBE, we will drop in the last tier. The tier we are stuck right now is just Stomp Fest each weeks. Too bad we cant have a weeks Borliss Pass/Anvil Rock/Ferguson Crossing, it would be so awesome!!

Here some picture of the last time I tried to defend a tower ( We were a zerg of about 20. we don’t see much of them on the picture cause they were dead).

Windmoor.9834:

I am sorry to the OP for Anvil Rock’s maturity in trying to derail the thread.

I hope you continue to do this in the future. It’s kinda neat to see how close the predictions can be.

Man go easy Windmoor it was only a bit of humour

Arkiels.9016:

Windmoor.9834:

Yes NSP should be jumping a tier. We have come a long way in regards to our Population.

Fixed for accuracy.

Quoted for truth

My brain is bleeding.

Windmoor, it would be hard to do that every other night, cause we usually don’t have those number in our borderland.

But still what helped us, was going 2v1 (Except those CRFT guys). It’s not really fair ether.

Man I understand that, I was so angry at them yesterday, I had trouble controling myself. Just felt like we couldn’t do anything to stop them, since most of them didn’t even read the chat.

They were just blinded following their guild leader.

Yeah yesterday was a great night for our 2 server. I was the first time I saw Borliss actually pushing NSP ( I just play late during evening) and it was beautiful ahah!

For once, it was actually fun to play yesterday, even if we didn’t get the orb at the reset!

Like I say, I’m not even in their guild. All the time they attacked you, We were asking to not do it. It did more damage to us then you, since they didn’t control anything important on your side.

That’s what I said, we were around 15-20 too, so it was a fair fight and we lost! Nothing like you being 1 vs 3

InterCityFirmWhu.4936 : You server outnumber us so bad, even your guild were asking us to ally to have some challenge. I hope you will get stomped as bad as us in the next bracket

Sundial, we will see what happen in the next bracket. Maybe this time it will be a 3way fight and we will be able to fight each other!

I was with them during that fight, not that I wanted to attack you, but we had raided some green camp and I didn’t know they wanted your camp too.

I will be the first to admit Crafter did more wrong then good yesterday, but your statetement is false for the camp fight.

We first thought you were only a little group, but as more player rendered, you were at least as many as us. And our group was scattering because half of us were going to the next objectif.

I will say they made bad decision yesterday, and I can’t say they are good at pvp since I didn’t see them pvp a lot (they were camp rotating). But free flaming is cheap, especially with a false statement.

Stay classy!

Oh well Anvil Rock did take a beating finally ahha!

Not sure if anyone told you but :

NOT USABLE IN PVP.