Guild Wars 2

Man a bird can become really beefy then :P

It’s the first time I can’t overdamage something just from regeneration.

Can you see any buff that could explain it?

Blaine Tog.8304:

Kardiamond.6952:

I don’t know how to tell you :

They didn’t have 15 days, they had 2++ month. They didn’t do there job, so now they are stuck with 15 days.

It’s there fault, and if 15 days isnt enought for a major bug, then maybe next time do a follow up of your bug forum and your moderator.

Make up for your mistake, and step up your game.

15 days from reproduction. There’s a world of difference between getting a bug report and being able to reproduce it in-house. The former means you still need to determine where there’s a bug at all whereas the latter means you can start (START) hunting down the lines of code which need to be fixed. It’s the first big step in a long process.

Now if this bug is still around in 3 or 4 months, then I think it would be fair to say they dropped the ball here. But it’s unreasonable to ask them to fix it this quickly, particularly when even their non-rush-job fixes seem to cause additional bugs.

Reproduce it?

You mean logging in the game and getting downed in PvE or WvW?

The first post in the bug section had all the info how to reproduce it, with in game methode.

Should I imagine they took 1 month and a half to reproduce a bug that a player can reproduce and document in one night? When they already have all the info from the pre-named player post? When they have better tool to test it?

You gotta be kidding me.

P.S I already waited for minions AI to be debugged since nearly release, after they said they would look into it. So yeah…

I don’t know how to tell you :

They didn’t have 15 days, they had 2++ month. They didn’t do there job, so now they are stuck with 15 days.

It’s there fault, and if 15 days isnt enought for a major bug, then maybe next time do a follow up of your bug forum and your moderator.

Make up for your mistake, and step up your game.

@Bhawb

I do find Anet to progress slowly in that direction tho. I played a lot of other MMO and MOBA, and never did I experience such a slows big fixes and balance patch.

I know they don’t want to Whack a mole balance, but I’M not sure they are doing any better.

Elem DD : They became OP because of the meta and the daphenix build being popular. How long did they tried to balance it? Each 1-2 month they would slightly nerf them, not affecting them much. It took what? 5 month to balance Elem DD? And some people might arg they are still unbalanced.

Same with warrior, they are trying to bring them back in the meta, they do little change (banner buff?) and wait 2 month to see if the meta change.

I’m personally not a fan of that kind of strategy. When you have a bug or a useless utility, you know you are in for a long time before it get resolved.

@Blaine

You didn’t read my post. I agree that Anet can’t find as many bug as 3 millions of players.

That’s why they have a bug forum. And all the subforum.

We did our job, 2 month ago! We wrote about it so many time. What do you want us to do? We used their bug forum, they didn’t answer. We did support ticket, we did everything we could.

Maybe they should get a test server? Like most MMO did?

Anet should have known about it since we posted it on the forum 2 month ago. There are no excuse. Take a moderator, roam the bug forum, send it to the team. We even had a moderator confirm he was sending it to the team.

He didn’t.

There is an issue, and it’s not on the player side.

About the dev on each class forum, I’M not one to say “man this forum have more dev post then our forum!”

But You are totally wrong when you take Ranger as an exemple. Ranger are prolly the subforum with the best poster from Anet : Robert Ryunda(spelling?).

He is maining a Ranger and reply frequently on their forum. He keep in touch and inform the players. He is doing a really good job. I don’t see how you can take there forum as an example.

I saw a survey in general forum not too long ago(can’t find it), and without it being hard fact, it still showed necromancer being the least played along engineer. Seing 2 necromancer in Lion Arch is hardly a proof tho.

Can you see the troll unguent buff on the pet?

I took a screenshot, I will have to check it out when I get back home.

600 hp sec seems possible to be the reason.

Interpret Interrupt.3824:

Sum up common responses to this thread.
1. lol what are you smoking necro is not OP
2. just dodge it
3. bring contemplation of purity
4. main a necro
5. thief is better boon stealer

And all 5 of those do nothing to address the original post.
This is the world we live in.

Yet you ignored any of the other answer about it.

Here is a list of cons OP didn’t say :

Situational : More often then not, this utility won’t be really useful. An utility crippling someone for 5 second isn’t exactly a good thing. What make is useful is the currrent PVP META where boon stacking bunker are really strong. It is strong again the top dog. Guardian, Elementalist, Engineer. Tho in my experience, You have to time it right again those class, or else it’s a waste. Elementalist can just switch to water and get all their boon ups in 5 second, where necro have to wait 40/32 second to use it again.

Duration : It doesn’t transfer the boon duration. Those conditions will prolly last about 5 second, and some are pretty weak. More in next point.

Stack : Unlike thief, it doesn’t keep stack. 25 stack of might from HGH will be 1 stack of weakness.

Reliability : Even tho it doesn’t have a cast time, it does have an “after cast delay”. So you can’t instant cast it during a rotation. It’s like a 1/2 sec delay. It also fail a lot without any reason.

Poison : You get poisoned for using it, tho it’s not really that bad on necromancer.

I don’t see how it is stronger then a boon stealing thief, or any good utility we have in game.

Boon/Condition control is necromancer speciality, for sure you will have a hard time if you use boon again them if they use Corrupt boon.

Tetra Bug.7134:

Good times last night with Kardiamond and the [vT] guys.

Highlights would definitely be when I was with Kardiamond and slider pulling BP guys by umber and durios when a BP guy adds us and tells us to leave us alone so they can take durios. Obviously we said no way, so they took the whole zerg to chase the three of us to Ogrewatch. That and the fight in BP BL at vale with [vT]. Good ten minutes Ebay kept coming at us. Many bags and badges last night.

Yeah it was weird, and unexpected.

A zerg of BP asking a group of 3 to leave them alone so they could siege a tower. Just after they retreated from trying to double team AR with Ebay all night.

Yes sure.

Sadly their zerging to ogre didn’t turn well for them.

Shout out to [COW], our fight were never even, but you were skilled players! Tho I shouldn’t say that anymore, any mesmer seems to be good player.

vT usually roam too late for me, once I will try to come with you guys, looks fun!

No,

If you did read my post, I pointed that I didn’t mind that, but if it happened when I was still alive, it would have been an issue.

jubskie.3152:

Kardiamond.6952:

Until I die. The entire time, the pet stayed full HP. Why?

The Ranger stayed out of combat. So his Pet was getting out of combat regen.

How is that possible?

It’s not.

When a pet attacks someone, it makes the ranger go in combat no matter where he is. The pet probably had SotW and the ranger was running BM/Healing Power. That means he (and the pet) had around 200-300 passive hp regen.

I hit pretty hard when I’m in downed state, I’m a necro after all. I doubt 200-300 regen could outheal my auoto attack + random bleed damage.

But I will keep this as a possibility. Yet I could see the ranger, and he wasn’t in an attack position, like he was out of combat.

Hi there,

I read about it previously on the forum, but it happened in spvp this week.

I was fighting a BM Ranger and a Mesmer on a point.

I ported back, tried to disegage. The Ranger and mesmer stopped attacking me, but the pet got one last hit in.

I get in downed state, all good I got my kitten kicked.

Now They don’t come to finish me, but the Ranger pet is still dpsing me.

“Let’s see if I can 1on1 a pet in downed state with my necro”.

I start auto attacking him.

“Man he is tanky, I didn’t even damage him yet”

Continu, continu…

Until I die. The entire time, the pet stayed full HP. Why?

The Ranger stayed out of combat. So his Pet was getting out of combat regen.

How is that possible?

In my case it wasn’t that bad, but imagine if it happened while I was still up fighting.

What’s your input? Is it possible to abuse it? Repeat it on demand? I tried with my ranger, no clue how.

@Lafiel

So you have one elite that can put on cooldown all utility and elite of someone else, and still disable them for 10 second, and you really really thought it was working as intended?

What the freaking hells?

And just like transformation removing pets, this is a bug that has been there since release and I don’t have hope to get it back anytime soon.

@Lookitsandrea

Yet they did answer that for the necro minions too, like 1 month after release.

Don’t get your hope too high.

Faux Sheaux.6179:

Count up the forum warrior posts from each server in this thread, and you’ll find AR has a nice lead.

I beg to disagree

You have to also account the quality, and Dovgan just doing it to copy them.

@Drarnor

Depend how you play WvW.

Gank Squad pet build are still viable with it. I used to run a MM build wiithout staff in WvW in a gank squad. In small fight, if my minions didn’t bug, I could be really efficient.

But yeah, if you zergm you will be destroyed.

And a BM Ranger pet is nearly as tanky as a player. If the ranger don’t put it on aggresive, he shouldn’t have issue with it.

And in roaming they are one of the best class. Crazy mobility and regen.

Necromancer got the same thing.

They debugged something with marks targetting, only to bug our 20% marks cooldown reduction at the same time.

Way to go anet, way to go.

Happen each freaking time.

Remember the turrets, the medpack ect..

@Blaine Tog

So in your mind, Anet have been doing all they could for this bug?

You know we discovered that bug like 2 month ago right?

We made I don’t know how many post about it.

In the necromancer forum -> No Answer

In the bug forum -> No answer, even while keeping it on front page for 2 weeks.

In the WvW forum -> Finally an answer from a Mod saying they would look into it.

a while after

In the necromancer forum -> Somoene make a video about it, Answer from Dev :

“This video is actually great. Thank you. I see that you have 1/3rd the health. This is not happening to my necromancer on live nor am I seeing it on test. Is this only happening when downleveled?
Jon”

Does it seems like the mod did communicate the bug? Not at all. Jon didn’t seem to be aware of it.

Pardon me if I’m a little annoyed by this. I have been part of the player that tried to reach Anet about it for 2 month.

And yes a bug can’t be long to debug, and yes there are other bugs in game. But could you please list me the bugs more important then this horrible unbalance? Please, tell me other class that have such a bug.

Not like it’s also the same class that have the worse AI minion in the game (pathing for you Bawz).

Excuse Anet all day if you want.

I saw a lot of flaw in Anet debugging, I’M wondering what the hell is happening there? There seem to be an issue.

Each time they debug/balancew a skill that can be traited, they bug it.

Few example :

Spinal Shivers : Added damage on boon
Result : When traiting it, you don’t have the damage on boon effect.

Engineer Turret : Added new active effect and changed cooldown
Result : When using deployable turret, you get the old turret.

Recently
Greater mark -> The target is now bigger when using greater marks
Result : 20% reduced cooldown no longer work on debugged marks.

ect…. I could continu like that.

It happens each freaking time they have a case like this. Yet they continu to do it, I even doubt if they test what they are coding. Surely doesn’t help that they don’t have a test server.

You’ll tell me it’s prolly complex to take care of that kind of bug?

No it’s not.

Engineer had a bug like this with their medpack. Once traited, they would have lower cooldown, and their adrenaline pack would not stack swiftness.

A dev saw in on pvp forum, debugged it instantly for next patch. We asked for more debug, he said he had 5 minutes, not 1 week. So it took 5 minutes to debug this.

Yet it happens each freaking patch.

The same kind of bug each freaking patch.

So you tell me they are doing all they can to debug our case, I tell you I think they have issue on testing and work method.

After all those thing, yes I grow tired of the same old sh****. Been waiting since release for minions to work in WvW.

P.S : I know our hp bug is prolly more complicated then the traited abilities bug, I’m only saying if they have issue with 5 min debug, imagine with a major bug.

P.S 2 : I had to vent it. I know it’s harsh for the devs, but I have waited so long for some debug, it grew up on me.

I don’t know what the hells is happening with Egobay in Eternal tonight, but are you guys using something special?

My whole group is crashing each time you mesmer portal. We all freeze up and have to end task and reboot GW2.

No idea what happening.

P.S : By the way I hope you guys love the double pull

You know exactly why.

I have a bit more succes again them with my necro, but I usually still lose the attrition war.

Yet Anet keep saying Necromancer is THE attrition class.

Yes, sure. The only thing we have in common with attrition is the slow killing. The longer the fight get, the weaker we get (empty LF, healing on long cooldown).

One day Faux, one day I will fight you Prolly after the next balance patch.

Or in maybe 6 month, when Anet will add the 5th skill in Death Shroud

@Drarnor

And I was only adding a reason why I think it is subpart.

If you land it with only 3 condition, it’s only 6% life force, on a 8 second cooldown with pitiful damage.

That’s why I think it’s the worse LF generator out there.

@Drarnor

By the chance the target get 5 condition on him(using spite signet or fighting a warrior without condition removal), even then it subpart to other lifeforce generator.

Staff #1 is bad too, but most people use Soul Mark so it’ get better. Axe is not bad, and it’s actually an ability you want to use. Dagger is awesome for LF.

Feast of corruption is an ability that does direct damage, on a weapon used 95% of the time on condition spec. I will rarely ever use it, other then for the LF. For good damage, you have to use it in specific condition.

I tried to get the highest crit I could with it.

Full berserk build, with scholar rune, with all the damage traits. With a target under 50% hp, with 5 condition and 12 stack of vuln, the best I could do was around 4k.

Not that bad, but if you consider a condition build, you will mostly hit for 1k-2k max.

That not really good, better to auto attack and use Soul marks on staff.

@Palerider

That’s what I thought at first, but I’m think it was for a different purpose when I saw it.

Because it was a giant Ebay zerg. I might have a screenshot at home because I thought it was funny.

Tried to peel some people off, but my friend lag too much when fighting zerg so we had to back off.

And you can afford to kill the Grub, don’t think AR or BP will have the force to stop you. :P

@EFWinters

Actually the grub thing isn’t an insult. It’s more an insult to us.

I starting roaming at ogre since last week, and many time we would find Ebay killing the grub.

Ask you EB team, I don’t know why. But prolly because you guys are bored, and you can still kill the grub and hold our forces.

I might log on earlier, will see.

EFWinters.5421:

Kardiamond.6952:

EFWinters.5421:

Kardiamond.6952:

the same trolling each week from Ebay.

Now that we lost a part of our force, you can pat yourself even more.

If you want some action in the evening, come at ogre in Eternal. I will roam there with a friend, hunting you guys while you are killing the grub.

I think I fought you and two guys from KAOS last Friday. I’m not gonna say you are bad but you are definitely not good enough to talk like this.

I never said I was good, tho I rarely lose 1on1 in WvW, especially this friday I didnt.

Would it be wrong If I said you outnumbered us when we died? Because I don’t remember having an even fight that friday, especially since it was the first time running with KAOS, and one of the two KAOS was dovgan gf, which I think isn’t really used to pvp.

Anyway, if you want to test me, whisper me in game, I started to like dueling, we could set something up if you want

Tho no BM Ranger, I don’t fight those guy.

Or Just come at ogre in Eternal tonight, I will be with my usual roamer friend who luckily got back his account. (thanks Anet!)

It was a 4v3. I guess I just expected more from you guys after hearing Dovgan talk so big. I figured a 4v3 should have been a breeze for you, but I could tell from the way you played you wouldn’t have beat us 3v3 and you would have struggled in a 2v3.

Btw, one guy in our group is from GH which I think you likened with uplevels in the last forum thread. Anyway, not trying to insult you or anything, I just reacted when you basically called EB bad at WvW when you are still not that good yourself. I don’t know what “tonight” means to you but I’m most likely not going to be on that late.

Cheers and cya in-game!

I think I remember your group.

Please quote me where I said you guys were bad, or that you were upleveled. I only said you left a GH behind and I killed him will the rest of GH was right next killing npc. I think I posted multiple time by now that EB WvW skills are really good.

The first time we encountered your group, I downed pretty fast your ranger(I think?) then you guys all focused me and took me down. Dovgan was left alone 4vs1. His girlfriend wasn’t there half of the time.

Tho you are right, it was a pretty bad afternoon for us. No need for me to give you excuses

But I want you to prove me you can 2vs3 me

Tonight for me should be between 8pm and midnight, East time UTC -05:00.

EFWinters.5421:

Kardiamond.6952:

the same trolling each week from Ebay.

Now that we lost a part of our force, you can pat yourself even more.

If you want some action in the evening, come at ogre in Eternal. I will roam there with a friend, hunting you guys while you are killing the grub.

I think I fought you and two guys from KAOS last Friday. I’m not gonna say you are bad but you are definitely not good enough to talk like this.

I never said I was good, tho I rarely lose 1on1 in WvW, especially this friday I didnt.

Would it be wrong If I said you outnumbered us when we died? Because I don’t remember having an even fight that friday, especially since it was the first time running with KAOS, and one of the two KAOS was dovgan gf, which I think isn’t really used to pvp.

Anyway, if you want to test me, whisper me in game, I started to like dueling, we could set something up if you want

Tho no BM Ranger, I don’t fight those guy.

Or Just come at ogre in Eternal tonight, I will be with my usual roamer friend who luckily got back his account. (thanks Anet!)

Cristobal.8640:

I’m ok with us necros getting no vigor and teleports, fits the attrition theme… What we need is stability.

How are they not fitting in?

We already have so many things working AGAINT being an attrition class.

No substain, no damage mitigation other then facetanking ect…

We are already paying a taxe for having Death shroud -> Lower damage, low available boon, least amount of combo field/finisher, worse in combat mobility, no hard damage mitigation, no burning.

I think necromancer are lacking enought of thing already to fit our Slow tank theme.

the same trolling each week from Ebay.

Now that we lost a part of our force, you can pat yourself even more.

If you want some action in the evening, come at ogre in Eternal. I will roam there with a friend, hunting you guys while you are killing the grub.

I just started using a similar build and Felt unique, oh darn :P

I have some difficulties covering my bleed tho, always the first condition being removed.

When not under pressure, I love to use the combo : Mark fo blood, DS + Fear + DS off/dodge/swap weapon + Mark of fear + epidemic. I use master of terror si I usually get the epidemic, and it hits hard.

I should take soul mark to try.

Nice build man

Dovgan I will have to roam with you someday :P

My roaming partner just got is account hacked and got all his level 80 deleted, so I’m stuck alone for a while.

@Kimb

I don’t know I don’t auto attack with my pistol. Or maybe sometime just to bait oponent into dodging.

llkoolaid.8204:

Dovgan.8605:

Kiliaan.1934:

Kardiamond.6952:

I’m sure if Dovgan wanted this, he would go tPvP. There is a reason why we roam around..

Woah wait a second read his posts again, he is clearly upset that ebay players never runs around by themselves. EBay players are never “solo” but offered a solo fight against skill opponents you give him an out and say he can go to tpvp if he wants solo or small man fights? One of you is confused.

You are just misunderstanding what he is saying about the solo roaming mindset. Most dislike the constraints of s/tPvP and enjoy the risk/reward roaming in WvW offers. Kardiamond is just stating a point of view from the roaming aspect of the game. Saying that EBay tends to huddle together for warmth and protection isn’t a complaint so much as an observation.

No, that is a complaint. Crying about numbers again… You guys roam around trying to find that single uplevel that you can just dominate to feel better about yourselves. Very sad…

Wow you really know all about roaming.

Because yeah, a guys that would leave the safety of zerging, would seek easy fight. It doesn’t make sense at all.

All roamer I know roam for the challenge. Being alone versus a group of upleveled can be as challenging as fighting a 80 exotic GH members.

By the way, your group in ARBL shouldn’t leave your buddy behind. You left for a camp, and you had a guardian being late behind. For once I could jump someone with my necro, I took care of him, and your group never came to his aid.

Felt bad for him, especially since I could see you guys fighting npc right next during our fight.

I personally fought CoF and they are really good player, but my last fight with them was all credit to there mesmer, he was a pain.

Like Dovgan said, If you are a skilled mesmer, you can obliterate mostly anyone. There potential is so high because they have defence mecanism that resolve around invul/blink/dodging/clones. All those defense mecanism really depend of the skill of the player, will rotation their skills and timing their defence, a GC mesmer can be as tanky as a guardian.

On the other end, class like necromancer have a really straight forward defense mecanism. No vigor, meaning they have acces to 2-3 dodge during a fight. Death Shroud is a static facetanker, even if you are a pro necromancer you won’t have much potential in DS. I feel like Necro are a really hard class to be good at in roaming, because they have really little room for improvement.

I disgress a bit Prolly result of my going back on my necro yesterday, and finding myself in the wrong end of zerg and losing fight I wouldn’t lose with my engineer. I shouldn’t roam with my necro anyway.

By the way, Dovgan explained exactly what I meant by open world pvp. It’s not about number, it’s about the mindset. The danger of WvW roaming.

Kiliaan.1934:

Dovgan.8605:

Just showing your EBay forum trolls just how easy it is.

And Archer, you are more than welcome to come have a go, there are only 2 – 3 players on EBay I have run into so far that are even worth my time.

Oh I like the big talk! Haven’t seen you around the fight clubs, however.

Leave the sandbox slaughtering to someone else and come play with the grown-ups, you have yet to meet my friends.

Fight Club?

Where you have a controlled area for controlled fight?

I’m sure if Dovgan wanted this, he would go tPvP. There is a reason why we roam around.

The danger of fighting in the open, never knowing what will happen, how many ennemies will their be, how many BURN will zerg you and use their elite in a 20 vs 2.

I’m not a fan of fight club, if I want controlled fight I will go in HotM. I can live without having food buff, or 100% critical damage.

Kimbald.2697:

People discuss the pistol as if this thread wasn’t about the shield.
What I mean is this: if you like the pistol, it means you work on condition damage.
if you use condition damage, you should equip 2 pistols for blowtorch.

So if you equip the shield, it is very likely that you didn’t max out on condition damage.
And for those builds… pistol main hand is pretty weak in damage.

Pistol scales a bit on power, true, but in a power build pistol #1 takes aaaaages to kill anything. Use rifle, bombs, Flamethrower, tool kit or even grenades with that exact same build and you’ll see how weak pistol damage is without going conditions.

See, it’s not about liking pistol or not, it’s about: being forced to use a condition damage weapon with a shield.

Not all shield users are condition build, but I think most that go full conditions tend to use pistol ofhand.

I use shield, and I still do good damage. The only difference is pistol offhand got an AoE burn. Yet you can get burn via other source, so it might not be an issue.

What you get in exchange is an AoE push, a blast finisher, a missile reflect, a 2 sec daze/stun, a two second block.

What you “can lose” (if you don’t have other burn source) in dps you get it back in utility and survivability.

Blast finisher + smoke bomb + super speed = 100% escape in any fight.

I disagree,

Right now our Pistol is our strongest weapon. Mostly because of static shot and long duration poison.

HGH and Node bomber both use it.

Maybe our auto attack with pistol is lacking a bit, but it’s not like you auto attack often as an engineer.

Incendiary ammo changed?

Whaaat?

Don’t touch it anymore We don’t all have 100% burn duration.

In my opinion, Engineer is one of the most well done class in GW2.

I used to think we were a kitten class, and that we were getting a lot of nerf (tho I still think some nerf like the removal of KR were not warranted) and we had a lot of bugs.

But it’s untrue. After leveling most class to 80, or a least doing a lot of tPvP with them, I gotta say Engineer is one of the most well rounded class.

Our class mecanism, kit and toolbelt, give us the possibility to counter mostly any move from the enemy.

Most of our kit are strong, our weapon are also pretty efficient too.

I agree tho that our burst build are a bit lacking if you compare to HGH and condition build, but nothing terrible.

Nothing worse then other classes if you ask me.

Sure we still have some bug, and still have balance to achieve. But Overall, when I jump on my engineer, I know I can be competitive with mostly anyone.

Except those kitten BM Ranger. That’ another story.

But If you feel like Engineer is a bad class, I won’t convince you with my word, I’m just going to say : Go try a necromancer.

@Seras

You use the blast finisher with smoke field to get 3 second of invis. You can get smoke field from smoke bomb, flame turret(meh) or smoke bomb trait.

And our shield blast is awesome because it does the damage before you get the stealth, so you don’t get the revealed debuff.

If you use big ol bomb, rocket bomb and the rifle leap all does damage after getting stealth. Meaning that if your blast hit someone, you won’t get the stealth, you will be instant revelead. Which is prolly a bad coding issue from Anet.

Pretty useful when you want to finish a downed oponent in a group fight. Throw a smoke bomb, use your shield #4 to push everyone and get stealth and start your finisher. Now people won’t see you until the last second of your finisher, and your downed opponent will be blinded.

The Magnetic Shield is awesome, but mostle like miriforst said, for the blast finisher.

I rarely use it for the reflect, as not a lot of build use projectile. I usually keep it for escaping with smoke bomb. As far as I know, Magnetic inversion is the only blast finisher we have that does the blast after the damage, meaning you don’t intsant gt revealed if you hit someone when using it.

I love Static Shield again any class, I just open the fight, poison dart andstatic shot, then pull up #5 and charge to them. Get into melee and they get stunned from hitting me, then just combo them to oblivion.

Since release, I never took shield before, but now I love it. Stealth when roaming is incredible.

@Faux

Well for me the issue is the pet.

Pet don’t share ranger stats, so what ever is your build, your pet damage will mostly only depend on your traits.

So going 30 in BM (also getting healing from trait stats), you can build complete bunker and still have a good DPS. That’s the issue.

Going full defence won’t have any effect on your pet DPS. And being able to crit for 2-3k damage is really good for a bunker. Add to this your shortbow gatlin gun and all your condition (burn bleed and poison).

Now add to t his, like you said, weapon also have build in dodge/block, and you find yourself with wicked bunker.

In tPvP you can also attack other point with your pet while you stay at yours. (well after targetting you can go back to your point)

How to balance that? Man don’t ask me, I have no idea.

Just hope someday Longbow/offhand axe will be viable

@Bomber

While SD mine build have a really good burst, they lack in other area. They are really Glassy, they usually don’t have much condition removal, most of theire damage is close/melee ect..

Compare this to 100nade, which was a lot better, yet weaker then HGH.

uberkingkong.8041:

Nah your wrong, P/D is really good, but requires lots of skill, timing and setting up, on the other hand HGH engy is powerful as well, but requires no skill no timing and setting up, you just drink elixirs and throw nades at enemies. HGH requires no skill to be asset to the team, but you can always get better as well and provide a bigger asset.

When I was watching team sleepy own everyone on that twitch video, I was thinking to myself, if ostrich eggs wasn’t there they probably wouldn’t do so hot because a good HGH engy can make a huge difference, and you saw that by the undefeated streak they went, they didn’t let a single team get past 350 out of like 10 games against other premades and a team consisted of the supposed best of the best.

Ahahahaha

Was the first part a joke?

Because pushing 1 and 5 is a lot harder then using all your skills and using skill shot every attack.

Faux Sheaux.6179:

BrimstoneAshe.5043:

Faux Sheaux.6179:

Long story short, they’re going to have to buff our traitlines before they can nerf us.

Given ANets history of what they’ve done to Engineers, I wouldn’t be so sure about this statement.

Call me an optimist then :P I am sincerily hoping that by now the ones working on fixing class skills have learned from at least some of their past mistakes.

Plus it’s not like it’s all that overpowered of a build. It heals a lot, but it is worthless in most dungeons and large-scale fights.

Yet DD Elem were worthless in dungeon, and they got nerfed hard.

don’t forget the main source of balancing is tPvP, and if you play tPvP or at least follow the pvp forum, you should now BM Ranger are a plague right now.

I love a bit of honor even in a video game, make it better for me. To each it owns.

Will prolly roam tonight if I can get some people, be ready to fast build your AC to counter our 3 man group. Oh and stack up, you never know.

You know me? How great Now hunt me

@Pedra

Been a long time since I saw a guys owned so bad on the forum. Good rpely

@RRR Faux

I don’t have respect for your trolls and Rekz attitude, not for your server skill. I kinda respect GF, other then Archer they are a great guild to fight again.

I also specified what I didn’t like about Ebay was their attitude on the forum. Trolling can be good for rivalry, but too much trolling is boring.

How am I degrading my server? I think AR know we lack hardcore guild. All the hardcore player that join Anvil Rock, join it for tpvp, not WvW.

I do have a really bad opinion of your trolls, but I’m sure you do. You only back them up because they are from your server.

Since my build got nerfed last patch(and a big nerf :P), I will wait until your RRR get nerfed. I’m not using HGH (OP engineer build) and your build is a variation of the BM Bunker build in tPvP that out regen my damage.

I will wait until you get your nerf then we will fight.

@Tiramisu

Return behind your premade, you shouldn’t post alone. You know Rekz can’t go solo. It’s way too dangerous to not have anyone to SR and rez you.

@Faux Sheaux

Why are you calling me a forum warrior each time you post? I only called the ego of previous posters, and if you go reread them, I don’t know how you can say it’s not true. Just check Archer, penguin and Sil. Calling out their ego is being a forum warrior? So be it.

Explain me your definition of forum warrior, I don’t have the same.

@tiramisu

Thanks, I should be good. I was actually breaking down in tear, not being able to control myself anymore from all those post!

Personally , I prefer a rivality with good arguments and some honor. Yet pure troll get boring really fast. Archer and Penguin pattern are always the same.

Free insult, expect flame war. Always the same thing. And some kiddy troll will follow, saying “dumpster” each 3 word.

Are you just trying to find excuses for your little friend around there? Rivality isn’t trolling.

Rekz are just full of counter strike kids, yelling in their mic. Yep they are good, but yep they are still mentaly challenged.

At least Archer is the only member of GF that act like that. Rekz is full of it.

Let the trolling roll!!

(Now I’m a forum warrior Faux;0)

What is happening with EB? Is that why you guys are called Ego bay?

You have more hardcore WvW player, for sure you’ll be able to adapt and fights harder. I’m not hardcore, I won’t sleep 2 hour less just to gain 2 points on the glicko system and the right to brag on an internet forum. Our hardcore communty, they don’t play WvW, they play tPvP. We are left with mostly casual and roamers.

Re-read your lasts posts guys, all of those are about pating yourself in the back.

It easier to act all mighty when you are winning a tier, yet I didn’t see you guys “adapt” again CD or Kaineng.

I will keep my “bad” server. As long as it never turn out like Ebay forum poster.

PenguiNet.3420:

Dark Aidget.3879:

EBay spent a lot of time jumping up and down between tiers and facing fresh opponents for a long time before you got stuck in here. You had a lot of fun winning and a lot of fun losing as you bounced between T4 and T5. I think it might have given you a false impression on how much fun getting constantly kicked in the face is.

Ehmry doesn’t claim to “know your feels” because this server learns from adversity. Borlis Pass has been fighting EBay for how many weeks? And they have improved not a single iota. There have been no new tactics developed and neither have you developed better guilds. It’s the same free badges week after week after week after week.

On Ehmry’s side, our WvW guilds are expanding and developing and refining week after week after week. They are actually serious about becoming better players. This is in spite of the tepid challenge BP and AR have put up.

So, no…we have no idea how you feel and we would never want to know how you feel. It’s the feeling of mediocrity and this Charr Renaissance Winner wants no part of that, sorry.

Ralathar.7236:

That’s a bit short sighted. True they lost in overall points about the same because they pretty much stopped after the weekend. But while they worked together they had Ebay beat most of the time they were on, with us still losing in the point totals after night capping. The only reason we had a lead was the initial reset night, both servers closed in over 5k points after that over the weekend.

At the lowest point of last week, when we had NONE of our major WvW guilds actually raiding, and our PUGs were getting bullied by doubleteaming bads, they shaved 5k off our lead. That’s it. Color me unimpressed.

Ehmry’s strength has always been that of its core WvW guilds. That’s also our weakness. If our core WvW guilds don’t raid, we aren’t really any better than anyone else. That’s exactly what happened the very first week we matched up against Borlis Pass. In the course of one weekend when every core WvW guild took a break, BP capped everything and won the week.

Was it because Borlis Pass was really good? Were they killing our core WvW raids and mopping the floor with them? The answer to those questions is an unequivocal no.

It took until Monday last week until our major WvW guilds started organizing raids that we steadily increased our lead. If they didn’t, we might have lost last week.

The only conclusion to be drawn here is that in this matchup, Ehmry decides whether or not it wants to win. BP and AR are so bad they are irrelevant to the question. That’s the problem with Ehmry…a problem that our great server is trying to rectify with increasing work on the quality of our PUG coordination.

If this matchup continues a few more weeks, I would not be surprised if you will see our PUGs hold their own as if they were a full FTF, GH, pK raid.

That is the lesson I learned in DAoC. And to my great relief, it is a lesson that I do not have to teach to Ehmry. They know it intrinsically: adapt or die.

That is why our major WvW guild tip-of-the-spear squads are getting more and more and more dominant and more and more and more refined…while every single one of BP and AR’s guilds are unceremoniously tossed into the dumpster week after week after week.

It’s no surprise everyone is bored of this matchup. There’s only so much you can learn from punching babies.

That’s gotta be the worse post I ever read on the forum.

Worse, it looks like he is actually serious.

Sekz? Is that really one of your member?

Kiliaan.1934:

Kardiamond.6952:

Archer, Why don’t you post a screen shot of your mains.

I have no idea who you are in game ( And I really hate Anet for not putting name in WvW).

Are you one of those mesmer that roam around and think they are good because they kill people?

I am curious how you judge “good” in wvw if not by how effective you are at killing people? I assume you want to identify him so you can kill him to invalidate him as being good. See the logical inconsistency if this is indeed your intent?

P.S. He is the human GF mesmer with fractal back piece. Fair warning though we have been known to use him as bait because of tunnel vision people get when they realize it is him, don’t let the forum rage he generates distract you from the GF group he usually roams with. We typically set up siege and call it Zerg bait, but for some reason just the sight of Cookies seems to have nearly as powerful of an effect.

He is a forum warrior, I wanted to verify what was behind it. Some people troll because they are good and they want some rivality, and some because they think they are good and they want everybody to know it.

Yet Archer is a weird case because he troll even in non-matchup related thread. So I’m not sure what he is about. Not that I really care, but I’m getting bored of WvW so I might as well find something different to do.

But since he is a mesmer, I’ll prolly not know for sure what it is all about. My build is pretty kitten again mesmer, as my damage got cut by 50% last patch, and I lack the range damage to keep up with the low CD escape mecanism of mesmer.