Guild Wars 2

LotuS.4378:

in mather of wvw, (organized group, 5man group sucks hard, and no1 care about them) power/crit dmg engi granade is right now best option. Condiction is cleansing to fast on meele trains etc, so pure dmg wins.

Did a 5man whip you?

My small group sure aren’t useless when we flank zergy zerg and take back tower you left behind you.

Archer, Why don’t you post a screen shot of your mains.

I have no idea who you are in game ( And I really hate Anet for not putting name in WvW).

Are you one of those mesmer that roam around and think they are good because they kill people?

Faux Sheaux.6179:

Kardiamond.6952:

Ebay, so many forum warrior.

Kardiamond.6952:

The Ebayers I fought yesterday in ARBL didn’t seem to know about your uber skill.

Kardiamond.6952:

I will just continu to kill you guys one by one. Jump into your zerg and down someone.

Just because people with such big ego like you guys, hate to get downed.

P.S : Please Rekz, stop letting your guildmate alone. You know they die when it happens.

Takes a forum warrior to know a forum warrior?

I love people calling other people stuff then turning around literally a sentence later and doing the same thing. So much hypocrisy in this thread lol.

That’s the only way to get some roaming action with you guys.

To play your game.

Yesterday we actually had to siege tower in ARBL to get some fights. Yu didn’t even one to get the tower, we just wanted you guys to come out and fight.

I felt like trying the same on the forum. Bring it boy

I would also point out I made a forum warrior type of post, but I didn’t call you guys baddies or dump.

I already said what is my opinion of Ebay in this thread.

P.S : Bring your immortal FFF Ranger build around tonight I will test it with my demented Engineer build (Even after a 50% damage nerf on my main condition)

Ebay, so many forum warrior.

The Ebayers I fought yesterday in ARBL didn’t seem to know about your uber skill.

Maybe you guys can follow each other and auto cast AoE, but defending yourself without number isn’t as easy.

I will let you have our tower, garrison, keep. I will let you get 650 ppt. I will let you have your “hiding a mesmer into a tower for 30 min only to port back your zerg”. You can do all those thing.

I will just continu to kill you guys one by one. Jump into your zerg and down someone.

Just because people with such big ego like you guys, hate to get downed.

P.S : Please Rekz, stop letting your guildmate alone. You know they die when it happens.

@Lonely

You keep asking for dev opinion and dev to test it with top player.

Yet you are the only one yet to advocate your idea.

Any main engineer know cooldown would destroy the class. Simply said.

I also won’t reply to your post answering me, as you only mad staw argument, changing the meaning of what I said.

My post was meant to say all classe are unique! You can’t say Engineer can’t have this because other don’t have the same.

It’s a class mecanism! It’s unique!!!

I really don’t know how to say it any differently.

All your post is based around this, and it doesn’t make sense at all.

Also you tried to arg about Engineer utility with Armadeus is quit funny. He is prolly one of the best Engineer we have.

IGN: Zhyx
Main Profession: Engineer
Alternate Professions: Necromancer, Elementalist, Ranger
Account name: Kardiamond.6952
Practice Availablity: EST time, usually after 9pm to midnight, sometime after work 5pm
Current PvP rank (Not Leaderboard): 28
Level of Desire: Active Tournament play
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You know I’m your biggest fan Bas and Bhawb

@Luzano

That’s why I said Ebay turned troll. They weren’t troll like that before.

Just seem that winning over and over get to some players head.

Just like Counter Strike/similar game, the harccore gamers are often the biggest troll.

Thief have no cooldown on weapon skill
Elementalist got 4 weapon slot
Mesmer have clone/phantasm/shatter
Warrior have Burst skill
Necromancer got a second form
Guardian got perma signet
Ranger get a Pet

All those thing are unique, not shared by other class. Just like non-CD kit. Why to you compare class mecanism between themself? They are unique, no one can have the same as the other.

“But the mesmer don’t have it” No they don’t, but my engineer don’t have phantasm/shatter ether.

Being an engineer, I can read other engineer. There is still a delay during the swap. And you usually know what kit they are swapping too.

oZii.2864:

Kardiamond.6952:

If you take forum as a valid sample,

Killed the post right there stopped reading at that point.

That why I said If, because sadly, except the rare party invite, I can’t communicate with Ebay outside of forum.

If you take in game antic, lately I had a lot of laugh and jumping on corpse from Ebay when they zerged me with 20 players. Yet I find forum reputation more reliable then random player /emote in game.

Not that forum is that more reliable, but that’s the only thing I have.

KnattyDreads.1856:

This was a very rational and even keeled post and I enjoyed it. Until I reached this statement:

Kardiamond.6952:

…you can’t completly shutdown us like Kaineng could with a similar population.

What? Beyond the misspelling and poor grammar. What?

Kaineng when they fought Anvil Rock (In T7 I think?) wasn’t as big as they are now. They used to be a bit bigger then AR, but nothing monstrous like they are right now. We could have been competitive, yet they outskilled us so much that we got stomped.

I have a similar impression from Embay. You guys have good number and good coverage. But yet you aren’t on skill part with kaineng. Those guys really kicked kitten ! With the number of premade and hardcore guild you have, I wondering how we stay in range. I have yet to see a big hardcore guild on AR or BP.

And about misspelling and poor grammar, english isn’t my native language. So ether we continu this in French, or you accept my limitation.

Wow, how bad did Ebay turned?

If you take forum as a valid sample, we could conclud that you guys have the worse ego between all the server we have fought yet.

You guys have good player, good premade, and a good population. In my opinion, you guys have better players skillwise, if you compare to BP or AR.

Yet I would never go on your server, just to be part of that ego parade.

You guys still talk about 2 on 1, yet the temporary alliance only lasted for some hours.

It’s a shame Ebay morphed in such trolling server. And it’s a shame that with all the skills/players/guild oyu guys have, you can’t completly shutdown us like Kaineng could with a similar population.

OmegaProject.9831:

JonPeters.5630:

Ok we found a good repro case. It has to do with how death shroud and downed used to interact. I will get someone on it today and try and get a fix to you all asap.

<3

Thank you for the quick replies! This little Necro certainly appreciates your time and courtesy. Have a nice day!

EDIT: And a huge thank you to Targuil, the hero of the Necromancers

Quick Replies?

We posted this bug so many time.

We posted it here, we posted it on the bug sub forum, we posted it in WvW.

We even got a reply in WvW by a moderator saying They had someone looking at it. Yet Jon didn’t seem to know about it.

I think there is a communication issue someone

Nonethless, thanks Jon for answering. I might sound ungratful, but this is a huge bug in WvW and we made so much effort to reach Anet.

Is making a video the way to make it known?

Is posting on the bug forum useless?

@Wolf

I have more then 700 hours on each Necromancer and Engineer. What you are saying is ether pure bullkitten or pure luck.

My engineer is a lot better to fight multiple opponent, especially if you were using a MM necro.

Engineer have a more complicated mecanism, but you learn it pretty fast. Once you have the memory reflex and all, they become fairly easy especially with HGH build.

Necromancer have a really simple mecanism. Yet for the 5 class I have, necro are the hardest. You simply can’t do any mistake. You have no dodge, no block, no invul. You only have DS, which only absorb damage.

You also don’t have any movement skill, no crazy burst, no stealth, only 1 source of stability, few boons.

For me, necromancer is one of the hardest class around. Just because you skill cap is really hard to raise. You only have few tools, and when outnumbered, you will have a pretty hard time.

@Bhawb

Yeah, the result is the same, but If I remember correctly most of them still have the small reticule.

I also use fast cast so I didn’t even remember it was still bugged.

@Ratphink

Kiriakulos is right.

untraited chillbain and traited chillbain act as two different skill.

They do this for every traited skill in the game.

Just like when they changed the turret for the engineer. They buffed them. Yet, when you took the trait to be able to deploy turret by targetting, you would receive the old unbuffed version. Because they forgot to change both version of the turret.

Same thing with the med pack. When you traited targetting medpack, you were using an old version of the medpack prolly from data, that would heal for more on a lower CD.

And particle effect causing Chillbain to be different? I don’t see how it could effect the skill itself, it’s only a particle effect, not a different mecanism.

P.S : I just like to take some shot at Bhawb, because each time I do, he seems to be less insulting, and more thinkful. I still respect is knownledge and experience, but not the way he posts about it.

ekleenex.1654:

Kardiamond.6952:

ekleenex.1654:

Kardiamond.6952:

Tier 1-2-3 don’t get anything more then T5. Except maybe queue.

Lol. I don’t even..

Kardiamond.6952:

They seems to be surprised when they fight someone that can dodge roll their hammer stun, and when they don’t have a water field with 10 blast finisher to heal them.

I love finding those lovely lonely Rekz running back to their preformated zerg.

Small man syndrome once again, anything more then 1-5 is a zerg, typical low tier mentality. All I can say is beating on 60+ man groups is a lot more enjoyable then playing paddy cake with small man in some remote corner of the map. And congratulations, you picked off someone who is running a support build trying to go stomp actual zergs with their guild. Nobody cares about your 1v1 small man prowess. But I’m sure every server will thank their solo roamers for the great WvWvW contributions. I love small man groups, and running in them. But the ones who post on here are, humorous. It’s almost like PAXA, except worse.

Small man syndrome? You are the one that started to call out solo roamers. Check your previous post.

I only responded in the same manner just to test your ego I’m not disappointed.

I respect premade zerg. They do what they like, and it’s all good. But don’t come here boasting about “wiping” random pug with dueling spec when you have a premade TS group with all support/synergy build.

It’s not better then me killing your support 1vs1.

With 2-3 guys, I kill dolyak, take camps, disturb zerg, sometime wipe them. We break siege, steal tower (when bored) and destroy reinforcement.

To each their job. Zerg take tower/garrison/keep, I take camp/dolyak/kills.

@Khayoss

Sarcasm doesn’t translate clearly on the internet, but I’m pretty sure he was using it.

I actually wasn’t sarcastic. But feel free to take it however you want. There he goes again guys, throwing out the Z word, I would love a definition, because based off your logic if I was running by myself I could call your 3 man a zerg, it’s ridiculous.

And like my sarcastic comment said, I like small man groups and we actually do run them when WvW is slow. And if you read my post, I said busting zergs is something I enjoy, I wasn’t boasting, because anyone can do it. I only enjoy talking with you because your delusions about what makes a zerg goes back to the old NSP days when 10 people were considered a zerg. It is small man syndrome, and it’s a completely curable condition. You just wake the kitten up.

Zerg is not an insult, I use it for big group. Replace every zerg with big group.

Then what are we arguing about?

You did wonder what solo roamers were doing those day. I told you I was killing your reinforcement.

You then told me you liked to bust zerg, and you like to roam.

I also like to roam.

We are cool right? If you don’t have anything again roamer, then I’m wondering why we are even talking about it.

ekleenex.1654:

Kardiamond.6952:

Tier 1-2-3 don’t get anything more then T5. Except maybe queue.

Lol. I don’t even..

Kardiamond.6952:

They seems to be surprised when they fight someone that can dodge roll their hammer stun, and when they don’t have a water field with 10 blast finisher to heal them.

I love finding those lovely lonely Rekz running back to their preformated zerg.

Small man syndrome once again, anything more then 1-5 is a zerg, typical low tier mentality. All I can say is beating on 60+ man groups is a lot more enjoyable then playing paddy cake with small man in some remote corner of the map. And congratulations, you picked off someone who is running a support build trying to go stomp actual zergs with their guild. Nobody cares about your 1v1 small man prowess. But I’m sure every server will thank their solo roamers for the great WvWvW contributions. I love small man groups, and running in them. But the ones who post on here are, humorous. It’s almost like PAXA, except worse.

Small man syndrome? You are the one that started to call out solo roamers. Check your previous post.

I only responded in the same manner just to test your ego I’m not disappointed.

I respect premade zerg. They do what they like, and it’s all good. But don’t come here boasting about “wiping” random pug with dueling spec when you have a premade TS group with all support/synergy build.

It’s not better then me killing your support 1vs1.

With 2-3 guys, I kill dolyak, take camps, disturb zerg, sometime wipe them. We break siege, steal tower (when bored) and destroy reinforcement.

To each their job. Zerg take tower/garrison/keep, I take camp/dolyak/kills.

@Khayoss

Sarcasm doesn’t translate clearly on the internet, but I’m pretty sure he was using it.

ColinJohanson.2394:

You’re our boy Blu!

And our other streamers and shout casters as well!

Building in more support for folks who want to support and grow the PvP community in Gw2 is absolutely one of our major projects right now, and not something we’re going to say is good enough and done as is.

Was that an “Old School” reference?

If that was, all my anger about Necro downed state hp and minion AI just disappeared.

Always been like that.

But as Bhawb will soon reply, it’s must be an hyper complex bug that require many months to be debugged. We should not make any remark about the devs, as they could be offended.

This is prolly a core issue with the engine, and cannot be solved.

Not like it’s the same bug as the engineer med pack, a bug that got repaired in 5 min by a dev when he read about it on the Pvp forum.

Please Bhawb explain it to him

ekleenex.1654:

Kardiamond.6952:

@ekleenex

The are irrelevant.

We don’t need any kind of number to have fun.

I wouldn’t mind dropping a tier or two. I miss the time with NSP where we could roam around and fight in small group. Now it’s all about zerg.

Borderland get boring because you have few roamers, and one big native zerg going around.

Eternal Battleground is zergy too, but you also have freaking siege hitting you everywhere you go. You have to fight knowing that half your HP will be gone via random siege hitting you.

I’m really wondering what kind of player stay 1-2 hour on a cannon shooting people. How boring is it?

BP, nice fight in your BL yesterday evening. Your zerg overextended and it was fun when it happened.

I can’t really take a small man roamers opinion on server population seriously, of course it’s irrelevant to you. I remember back in the NSP/AR/BP match up groups of 10 were considered zergs, pleaseeeeeee. Go watch some T1-T3 videos and tell me how big and mean T5 is. Also, I’m sure you could spend a relaxing week in PvE and save the big gold to transfer to T8 where all the small mans play and have good fights in the ruins and high five er’night. But be careful from what I’ve heard there are pretty insane zergs in T8 too.

Pretty sure Anvil as a whole wants to evolve and become a contender in higher tiers, as does every server. I said losing bodies doesn’t help Anvil, and I’m pretty sure there is no argument to counter that. I don’t blame AR for wanting to temporarily drop a tier and get back some of the fair weathers, nobody in this tier belongs where they are at currently. I didn’t say anything about AR not having fun, you can still frolic around behind the windmill flip south camp or whatever solo roamers do in WvW these days.

For Anvil Rock to get pass those tier, we would need an influx of new players to have more coverage and a steadier force.

I don’t remember the last time Anvil Rock did a recruitement thread, or even wished we had more player.

I’m sure a good portion a our player would love to get in higher tier. But there are no use in that. Tier 1-2-3 don’t get anything more then T5. Except maybe queue.

I’m pretty sure those player that you picked up, will switch back to another server once they start losing. They prolly did that before Anvil Rock too.

As long as our player base stay the same, I don’t think we lose anything. Anything that is worth it. As long as we have Dolvgan.

Oh about what solo roamers do those day, we usually kill your strangler. You know your players that are used to beat random zerg of pugs while they have a coordinate group on TS.

They seems to be surprised when they fight someone that can dodge roll their hammer stun, and when they don’t have a water field with 10 blast finisher to heal them.

I love finding those lovely lonely Rekz running back to their preformated zerg.

@ekleenex

The are irrelevant.

We don’t need any kind of number to have fun.

I wouldn’t mind dropping a tier or two. I miss the time with NSP where we could roam around and fight in small group. Now it’s all about zerg.

Borderland get boring because you have few roamers, and one big native zerg going around.

Eternal Battleground is zergy too, but you also have freaking siege hitting you everywhere you go. You have to fight knowing that half your HP will be gone via random siege hitting you.

I’m really wondering what kind of player stay 1-2 hour on a cannon shooting people. How boring is it?

BP, nice fight in your BL yesterday evening. Your zerg overextended and it was fun when it happened.

@Bhawb

They replied to our minion AI bug once like 4 month ago. Asking for most test.

And I think most people are asking for exatly this : more interaction.

You might not see this as a big deal yourself. Good for you. But for people like me that do small group roaming, or for PVE players, it’s a terrible unbalance. Especially when I use my power build and I hit like a truck when downed.

The mesmer had instant answer when their phantasm got bugged, engineer got reply when one trait would not use the buffed turret ect..

Why would necro be any different?

The only precedent we have is about the Minion AI(or pathing for you). And I feel like this downed bug is worse then the Pet AI. Well both are major bugs for me.

TheMightyAltroll.3485:

I have a build that uses both Flesh Wurm and Spectral Walk, it’s better than stability, and works quite well. You place your flesh wurm before the fight at a far away distance, as soon as you down your opponent, activate spectral walk right next to him, start up the stomp channel, then Necrotic Traversal, then Spectral Return the moment your stomp would connect. Works really well in group fights. Long CDs though are irritating.

That combo is brilliant, never though about it.

Tho using two long CD utility is kinda hardcore for a stomp

@Noice

I was the [STAR] Female Norm Engineer. Yesterday I went the easy way and used the OP HGH cond burst boring build. Nothing to be proud of But At least I had switched Elixir S for Slick Shoe to be different (and to counter your thief)

I think I felt some focused, especially your DD elem and one of your thief. Your DD elem took habit of RTL + updrafting me, sadly with the chaos and my lack of CC breaker It hit me really hard.

Were you the DD Elem that kept Updrafting me?

And I agree that the previous time I fought you guys you didn’t have any DD elem. But you had a lot of thiefs ahah.

Anytime you guys want to fight again, we usually have a team of 3-4 STAR between 9pm and midnight, mostly during week days. We are usually in BP BL because EB roamers are usually there and BP don’t have any roaming team.

@Pestilence

I don’t think there burst is overpowered anymore. With my stats I would usually only suffert from 1-2 hit before using my defensive cooldown and turning my dps on him.

DD don’t worry me too much, they are as efficient as any other class. They hit hard, especially if they coordinate there burst with another thief, but they can be countered.

S/D are a lot harder to counter, there #2 port can’t really be countered. It’s an on-demand CC breaker. When you play a class that rely on CC, it’s pretty harsh. It’s worse then Mesmer simili CC breaker on there staff.

Must have been part of the change that made Mist form and Elixir S unable to use 6-0 skills.

Brinson.7289:

What happens if someone blocks and then starts attacking you?
As an Engineer, I love seeing other engineers trying to burst me down with high offense and low\no defense. Low health; the weakest stunbreak; no condition removal; no protection & no toughness.
What happens if you attack someone who has vit\tough + protection?

Just like 100nade, you gotta bait your oponent to use their blocks/defence.

Did he say it was a tPvP build? Anyway in tPvP most people only use one build for each class.

I use a similar build in WvW, all glass cannon.

Tho I don’t use analyse, I use throw mines. But the concept is similar, you have one big burst, I have 2 moderate burst of 8-10k.

I roam solo/small group with this build, and the key is positionning. You have to stay out of reach until you are clear to combo. If they focus you, it’s hard to pull your dps, but if they don’t, you dps suppoirt is incredible.

Even with no armor, 1 condition removal ect.. this kind of build is awesome for roaming.

@Puru

And yet we have the worse 30 traits ever in the same line. Static discharge is a good trait, yet HGH, our best build, don’t even use it.

You compare 1 burst of 3k that also heal for 2k(don’t forget that) to a maximum hity of 1.4k on a glass cannon engineer. Sure it can bound, but it’s situational.

You can’t juste compare directly trait like that.

If you add a 2k burst on a class like engineer that can burst for around 10-15k combo max, it’s not as bad as a thief that can already combo for 20k without mug trait. (Yesterday, with 23k hp and 2.3k armor I got killed in 3 hit by a thief)

Our base burst is lower, that’s why our trait isn’t as annoying as yours. That’s why every thief had mug, and only 25% of engineer had static discharge (rest being HGH).

Just like Anet think we deserve a 50% endurance regen trait as our GM tool trait, when ranger has it as a 5 point trait. Since those are 2 different class, two same trait can have different meaning.

@TFT

Yesterday, my roaming friend who had stopped playing for 3-4 month, came back to GW2.

He was rusty a bit, but he wanted to give roaming a shot with his mesmer.

We started having fights with you near Anvil Rock Garrison in EB.

After 30-45 min of skirmish, he was bored already.

I asked why, he replied : “Are we going to fight only 2 class all night long?”

And he was so right ahah.

All the time we fought you FTF, we fought Thief and Elem DD. All of them. I think you had 4 thief, and 2 elem.

You had one ranger, and I want to congratulate him for going a different way then all the others. Hold the line man!

Seriously, fighting two class that can disengage any fight whenever they want is pretty boring.

Even when we countered your bursty gank, we didn’t feel like we won because at least one of you guys had SR up, or had sword teleport, or shortbow port, so you would teleport away to your stoenmist. Over time it get boring I nearly switched back to my One Hundred mines build just to one shot your thief (or try, sword are hard to lock).

By the way, I finally don’t think the Mug nerf was as bad as annonced after last patch. I got comboed to dead once yesterday as I had all my escape tool on cooldown.

Checked my combat log, I got hit by C&D for 7.3k, backstab for 8k, and heart seeker for 7k. I was travelling with 2.3k armor (kinda low but still not GC) and 23k HP. I don’t imagine much people could survive that without bursting a cooldown. And I don’t think a 5k mug would have been needed.

Good fights tho!

Depending what I play, sometime I have trouble with thief, sometime I don’t.

But what I agree on with the OP is, and I always said it, I hate fighting thief. They have a class mecanism that I dislike.

DD Thief are less an issue, because the fight is usually really fast.

But S/D the new FOTM and Wild bill (less an issue in tPvP) are so boring for me to fight.

Port port disappear turn your camera sin every direction, target target ect…

I feel like I’m fighting more with my UI and targetting then with the thief.

It’s a taste thing I guess, I dislike fighting opponent that can port everywhere and stay invis 80% of the fight.

Penguin.5197:

I need an option to get into games that don’t have down states.
– Feelings of every main engineer

Quoted for truth.

The #1 in downed state of engineer is so weak, I don’t think I ever downed someone with it.

@Vandal

Then you might not be playing an engineer

Worse downed state ever.

@Atlantis

If we think like that, then they should really balance downed state skill.

I got a full glass cannon burst engineer. Mostly all berserk gear.

I saw a Ranger coming for me with a GS.

I told myself : “Nice an easy pray for my mines/grenade combo”.

Then he jumped me with his pet at the same time.

Nearly instant died.

Checked my log, I got mauled for 8.8k. That was great, didn’t know Ranger could land that kind of hit. (Jaguar did the rest of the damage).

And it was fair game, if he didn’t do that, he would have died 1 sec later from my burst.

Maul hit hard now

Shout out to CoF and some other random Rekz/FTF members for yesterday fights in BP BL.

CoF had been naughty once and invis ganked us when we were chilling destroying a treb.

But at least we got a nice fight after then, 3 on 4, but a really cool one. We didn’t have much fight of the night, it was cool.

Your asura mesmer is a pain, like most osicat mesmer.

I solo roam with my necromancer.

Like Gaidax said, you guys were spoiled. You can still escape pretty easily most fight.

And I’m still dying behind with my necromancer.

Noice.8730:

Kardiamond.6952:

Kiliaan.1934:

Kardiamond.6952:

@Archer

Man you have no right to talk about being zerged!

You guys swarmed us to dead yesterday. How many GF were you? It was the first time I saw so many.

And what the hell with S/D thief everywhere now? Not that I mind fighting a class with an on-demand escape skill/CC breaker, but it’s getting boring over time. :P

Zerg is just a term used to say you were outnumbered, and completely relative. The most GF we have run together in the past week was maybe 13 usually we are under 10 and roaming in smaller numbers.

As for the blue hair thief, that’s just me, I’m just so kitten fast with my s/d it feels like there are, i dunno…… 6 …. Maybe 7 of me.

Well 10-13 players is a lot for a roaming team. Our 3 man team didn’t last long.

At least I did hit hard some of your heartseeker/FS thief while going down.

Too bad Elixir S at 25% now freaking interrupt any ability you are casting.

By the way I wonder what happened to the FTF group that had 2-3 full glass cannon burst thief. How did they take the nerf.

I’m not sure.We have a lot of thieves…like A LOT and they run different builds. We even got a squad with just thieves..all 15 of them are thieves LOL

Yeah I had the pleasure to meet them.

The full glass one can be a pain if they coordinate their burst, but if they miss it, I love to make them explod.

Has some nice fight with them. But they were really fast. Ether I die or they do, it wouldn’t last for more then 5 sec. :P

Still buggy as hell in WvW after patch.

I ran it in sPvP, they runb good 90% of the time. They are really efficient!

Wish it could be like that in WvW.

Kiliaan.1934:

Kardiamond.6952:

@Archer

Man you have no right to talk about being zerged!

You guys swarmed us to dead yesterday. How many GF were you? It was the first time I saw so many.

And what the hell with S/D thief everywhere now? Not that I mind fighting a class with an on-demand escape skill/CC breaker, but it’s getting boring over time. :P

Zerg is just a term used to say you were outnumbered, and completely relative. The most GF we have run together in the past week was maybe 13 usually we are under 10 and roaming in smaller numbers.

As for the blue hair thief, that’s just me, I’m just so kitten fast with my s/d it feels like there are, i dunno…… 6 …. Maybe 7 of me.

Well 10-13 players is a lot for a roaming team. Our 3 man team didn’t last long.

At least I did hit hard some of your heartseeker/FS thief while going down.

Too bad Elixir S at 25% now freaking interrupt any ability you are casting.

By the way I wonder what happened to the FTF group that had 2-3 full glass cannon burst thief. How did they take the nerf.

I think the issue behing an AI issue or a pathing issue isn’t really important there. We are talking about the same thing, If we had acces to the code, maybe we could say what is AI and what is pathing. Yet AI could be having an issue with some weird pathing, so would it be an AI issue or a pathing issue? It could come from both. Yesterday I was dueling in Kruuk duel server with my MM necro, on plain terrain, no obstacle.

Yet my Flesh Golem stopped attacking, and it wouldn’t attack even if I spammed my Axe auto attack. But it still only happened once in around 10 duel with that build (MM kick kitten in sPvP duel, I gotta give you that).

But this is pointless, the point is there is a major bug about it in WvW. We call it minion AI because thats how most player can understand it.

I only wish for MM necro to be as strong in WvW as they are in tPvP. Debugging the AI/pathing would be a huge step.

@Bas

“I know you value your opinion with your less than 100 hours of active Minonmaster gameplay, but for those of us who have put in close to 1000 hours playing 80 percent of the time of a MM please stop posting your opinions in a biased arrogrant like attitude.
You only serve to further push the Necromancer away from being listened to as a class. Your ridiculous videos are nothing more than a detriment to a community that has come a long way in a short time. Videos and opinions phrased in the way are the reason that the devs avoided the Necromancer forums until recently. Please don’t try to bring back the past method of doing things when Rennoko, Kravick, Myself, Bhawb, Nay, Nemesis, and many others (Maybe even dredlord) have tried so hard to keep presenting things in a rational and positive manner.”

I don’t have the same respect as Xsorus has for you.

And I hate that kind of post.

“Don’t use that tone because I have more necromancer hour then you.”

A 100 hours players can still see thing that a 1000 hours player don’t.

I have been a necromancer since beta, took some vacation then came back. Still I won’t belittle opinion from new comers.

I appreciate the feedback of Xsorus, as the Pet AI somewhat got forgotten.

Bas, you and Bhawb even replied to a thread saying they were working fine, they only need some axe auto attack to work.

Yet in WvW, and I think you agree now, they don’t work 50% of the time.

If we had listened to you, people would have thought they were working as intented, because your test in Orr and in the myst were not showing any big issue.

I’m happy some good contributor from other class can input an outsider opinion.

And I won’t let minions AI fade away once again, I did the mistake once. If only they worked like they do in sPvP, They would be awesome for roaming in WvW.

@Bhawb

I think it’s a priority, a huge one for balance. Mesmer had a bug some time ago with their phantasm. Dev got on the forum, spoke with the communty and did a step-by-step debug with them. They then delivered a patch next day.

Yet Necro having a lot less HP then everyone else in downed state doesn’t even deserve an answer.

ekleenex.1654:

Kardiamond.6952:

@Blueprint

That’s the way of the zerg.

Once you zerg out roamers, you /laugh and /dance on them. But if you aren’t in your zerg, run behind your guard.

But it’s ok too, since most of them aren’t build to counter roamer. Most are build around spamming their AoE without targetting.

Just like that Rekz video :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PspHtWo32sw

Where you can see the recorder just running into a circle throwing AoE and auto attacking.

That’s prolly the reason why I never see Rekz roam in small group

You never see us roam in small groups because your 60 WXP isn’t worth it. And I would love to see your small man builds thrown into a 70+ zerg and sustain… Oh wait… It’s what we do, we’ll leave the solo roaming to the professionals.

Man the ego

And I didn’t know you guys played for WXP? Is that so useful? :P

a 70+ man zerg, you mean with 30 second skill lag? What an epic fight!

I will continu to hunt PVT Rekz when they are trying to run back to their AoE spamming zerg

@Archer

Man you have no right to talk about being zerged!

You guys swarmed us to dead yesterday. How many GF were you? It was the first time I saw so many.

And what the hell with S/D thief everywhere now? Not that I mind fighting a class with an on-demand escape skill/CC breaker, but it’s getting boring over time. :P

Bhawb.7408:

I agree with people often enough, no one remembers because that isn’t how the human brain works.

As for the bug, this assumes that it is the only bug that they have to deal with. Maybe it isn’t a priority for them, maybe it is more complex (and thus gets lower priority because it takes too long), maybe they didn’t know about it until recently. Its like how most conspiracy theories are invented by idiots who know nothing about the subject. It happens all the time, people who don’t understand the actual workings of something are always the one to talk about how easy it is to fix it, and then blame others for not fixing it. Like how people blame the President for not passing laws.

Uh, no, I have far more time on WvW or PvE than tPvP. I talk about tPvP the most because I like it, but I’ve done far more in WvW than I have in tournaments.

Are you indirectly calling me an idiot?

I might not know how they code, or how they are working.

Should it be a reason to accept everything?

Accept that Pet AI have been bugged forever?
Accept that we have 1/3 the downed state HP of everyone around in WvW/PvE?

In your opinion, we should just stay quiet and wait for when ever they have the time to do it. You know what happen when you stop talking about a bug? They don’t get resolved.They didn’t even give us an official answer yet other then the unamed moderator.

“Maybe it isn’t a priority for them”

That would also be an issue.

“I agree with people often enough, no one remembers because that isn’t how the human brain works.”

that’s an assumption. You could also re-read all your lasts replies. But hey, what do I know.

I wanted a nerf to confusion.

But I think 50% is far too big as a nerf.

I was expecting it to ether have an ICD or not proc on dodge abilities. Or even a 25% damage nerf would have been cool.

But 50% is way too high.

@tiramisu.8706

Yeah, I would like to think that too.

Yep.

out of hand in WvW?

It was only strong because Confusion was doing crazy damage. And it wasn’t even OP.

I don’t remember ever seeing a post on the forum saying : “Man Epidemic is OP nerf it!”.

I didn’t see an all necro team roaming around casting epidemic.

Bhawb.7408:

Tristan.7430:

GJ ANET,
patch is here but no fix for this gamebreking bug, maybe you can start to do something

Because you know for sure that this is just a bug where they wave a magic wand and BOOM everything is fixed. It isn’t always just so easy to fix things that appear to be easy issues within coding.

Are you always again everything? I don’t remember the last time I saw you agree with someone on something.

Funny thing is, this bug have been posted on the forum like 1 month ago, is 1 month too much for the dev team? You would need a major bug to require more then 1 month to debug.

My guess? They didn’t know about it until 1 week ago when I posted it on WvW. They might still don’t know about it.

If you accept such a delay for a game breaking bug, good for you. But I don’t.

Not like it effect you anyway, you are a tPvp players only.

I’m not sure about the patch

Elixir S is a big nerf, but maybe it was deserved. But it was really useful again bursty class.

No Gadget buff

No Kit Refinement buff

Cloaking device was cool, but I don’t know about the new one. Can you move with the 5 sec stealth?

I don’t use Healing turret, because then I lose any kind of swiftness source. I can’t say anything about it!

Elixir buff, thats a good thing. I don’t know if it’s still bugged, sometime it wouldn’t produce any effect.

Low health response CD : It was needed. But didn’t see, was it proccing each time under 25% I don’t remember healing 3 time in a row.

Bleh

Ah forgot, the confusion/retal nerf in WvW will hit hard my demented build. It’s still viable, but HGH build are now a mile ahead in efficiency.

@Blueprint

That’s the way of the zerg.

Once you zerg out roamers, you /laugh and /dance on them. But if you aren’t in your zerg, run behind your guard.

But it’s ok too, since most of them aren’t build to counter roamer. Most are build around spamming their AoE without targetting.

Just like that Rekz video :

Where you can see the recorder just running into a circle throwing AoE and auto attacking.

That’s prolly the reason why I never see Rekz roam in small group

@Faux

Thanks man, too bad I don’t play my ranger enought. Cool class!

in SOTG they said it would be unblockable. So in theory it coulod miss.

Just like Necromancer Marks or Engineer Throw Mines.

They said in the next patch they changed AI so they don’t attack any mobs they comes accross.

But they didn’t say anything about the AFK’ing pet. I hope they looked into it.