Guild Wars 2

Don’t come to AR, we don’t take FairWeather player. Sorry man

Go take WvW slot on Borliss Pass, so you can run your Vista! (Evil!)

Helemar.1273:

I’m curious. Did all this ‘everyone attack GoM’ mentality spawn from one person on our server posting a picture of EB all green? After all the statements of ‘one person doesn’t represent the server’ that have been asserted – I find that kind of hypocritical if that’s the case.

In the last day or so all I’ve seen is basically AR and BP trying to take everything from us that they can. Now, there are pockets of people that hit each of you independently of the ‘big picture.’ But is two servers teaming up on ours really satisfying?

The pie chart has been telling me that you guys are basically at an unspoken truce with each other, and are going after our assets primarily. After how the last two weeks went, if this is your solution, I’m a little disappointed in this bracket. Because I see what the future holds, it’s going to be a 2v1 for the next month until one of you move up.

Not really looking forward to that.

Ahahahahaha, man really! :P

Seriously tho, an alliance between BP and AR, I don’t think it would be possible. You only have to read the forum, and you’ll see we have some bad blood between our large guild.

Personnaly, I have a sense of rivalry with BP, and I wouldn’t ally with them because We would miss a lot of good fight.

Anyway your statement is baseless, too much fluctuation in the map. Yesterday afternoon, EB was all Green and Blue. Seems like AR part of the map were their playground. We got spawn camped by BP for a bit, while Green Didn’t feel like going for BP territory, they went straight for AR and took what BP didn’t take yet.

But there are no alliance between them, it just went that way. And I loved BP trying to spawn camp us, just to get wiped will we had the outmanned buff. Once a Commander showed up and PuG started to follow it, we got everything back under one hour.

I gotta admit, BP did an awesome job putting constant pressure and building a lot of siege in our keep.

During the evening, we had some good time too. But we also have some new commander, and some other commander that can make mistake. We were in BP BL, and started taking territories. Taking tower, taking the bay.

That’s when we woke up the BP war machine, their zerg came out gun blazing and wiped our commander group (missed it tho).

That when our commander took the worse decision they could take. We could defend the bay and slow down the zerg, but they decided : “Hey! Why don’t we attack GoM while BP attack the bay”. And that’s what they did, and they woke the other war machine, the GoM assault team!

After that, not only did we have BP zerg coming our way after taking Bay, but we had a GoM zerg coming the other way.

We got wiped from the map.

A commander icon can make us win, but it can also make us lose everything. I usually form a guerrilla group now, to do tactical assault.

P.S : Shout to other AR player, is it me or more then half our WvW population seems to be underleveled? Each time we form a guerrilla group, we have really low level people with us. I feel lucky if I can get one level 80 in my group.

I’m starting to get bored sometime.

I love progression too, even if some people see it as the evil. Right now I’m working on my alt so I’m still good, but once I get all exotic and grow tired of running around in circle hitting a door, what will happen?

To change the beat, I started roaming, it’s a lot of fun. Run from the zerg, take down the loners. Also killing people in JP can be fun!

But the lack of Player name, removing any rivality, is bumming me.

I personaly woudl love some progression, low progression (like +1 stats for a new set), and some rivality. Would love to have the option to show my name in WvW.

But I think GW2 isn’t geared toward it, and it’s all good. Can’t have everything you want in a game. Still a good game.

AAa nice thanks for the answer!

I have been expecting this kind of answer for quite some time.

Finally SR will be even more useful!

It is bugged, as it doesn’t remove condition from your ally. So you are basicly dupping the ennemies conditions. I’m not a big fan ether, since #4 dagger do the same thing then the active.

Well for sure you will have a harder time then your Thief or your mesmer.

Necro lack an easy escape mecanism to escape zerg when you are roaming.

Myself, I’m roaming with a mesmer friend in WvW all night long. he does most of the work, but I’m still here to tank the damage, since people tend to not target a Mesmer because they are so hard to kill. They go straight for the necro that can’t escape.

That’s why I started using Flesh worm, to at least have an escape mecanism. Still doesn’t work much of the time, but hey better than nothing.

The issue when fighting thief is, even if you can vanquish them, most of the time you won’t kill them. Nearly 90% of the time in WvW, when I get a thief below 50%, he just pop invis and run away, porting with short bow.

Maybe a Frostmancer could be good vs Thief, never tried one.

I will let you play one.

I’m not saying Necro are bad, they are ok. You should really play one, as they are a lot of fun.

But to think you can outburst people and have a good survivability, it down right wrong. This is prolly the only bursting build for necro, and it’s really on a precise combo and no dodge from the ennemy.

You know that if the ennemy dodge his combo, he has to wait 60 sec until his abilities refresh. 3 utilies on cd (bone minion have a shorter cd tho) and an ideling elite minion.

Yes we have Death Shroud, but it’s there to make up for our lack of escape mecanism. You can’t outrun people with a necro, you can’t have more dodge, or block attack. You have no invis. You just have another form to sock up some damage.

It’s an highlight, sure it looks impressive. But a necro outlasting others AND outBURSTING? No way man, we don’t have a Bursting class, for every class I played, necro have the worse burst.

bwillb.2165:

Wow, that looks pretty interesting… For a class that can outlast most others, that’s some pretty wicked burst. I think you may have just convinced me to convert some gold into gems for a char slot and try a necro….

If it convinced you, good thing. But be ready to be disappointed.

Borliss Pass isn’t destroying itself?

This is an opinion that come from 1(!) guy who play at offpeak time.

Borliss Pass has never been so strong, I doubt a “self destroying” server would be in that state.

And man DarkSavage(Godfather), you really have something versus GoM.

I personnaly think they are the best matchup we had from uptier since release. I mean, during the PVE halloween event they had fairly even number with us. And now that they have a bit more, they still can’t cap more then 1 full map.

I have no issue with GoM, seems like a legit server.

I will copy my answer from the other post, since it fit more here!

At Least the signet is a stun breaker.
But you seems to work a lot with the staff (lots of trait buffing the staff), but you choose to traits for a 10 sec 3 might (around 85 cond/power) over a traits that gives 10% increase damage with every staff damage. It also mean you are using a bugged signet with the same effect then you your #4 dagger (not countaing the stun breaker) every 60 second.
I’m really not sure man, but it’s all theory. Might work better in practice, but with what you are sacrificing for 3 might, not sure at all.

Confirming what Aga said.

At Least the signet is a stun breaker.

But you seems to work a lot with the staff (lots of trait buffing the staff), but you choose to traits for a 10 sec 3 might (around 85 cond/power) over a traits that gives 10% increase damage with every staff damage. It also mean you are using a bugged signet with the same effect then you your #4 dagger (not countaing the stun breaker) every 60 second.

I’m really not sure man, but it’s all theory. Might work better in practice, but with what you are sacrificing for 3 might, not sure at all.

Yeah, still not sure if its really a viable build. Might have fought some low level or bad player. Will test it for a week then come back!

Add to it that I’m still working on this build, changing traits, and I still do mistake during fight because I’m not used to MM.

I’m might be wrong, but wasn’t it like that since release?

P.S : Every minion should have OoC Regen.

Since I read this thread, I started a MM build, to know how bad it is.

And it is…. not thta bad actually! :P

Surprising really! In PVE I gotta say, I have a harder time tagging mobs in DE since I don’t use staff anymore.

But It was more about WvW. It actually pretty decent. I was a powermancer before, and my survivability lacked. I got dps gear, so I died really fast.

But with MM build (20/0/30/20/0) with all traits to benefit MM, and life syphon traits in blood, my survivability really went up a notch. And my DPS is actually really good (I thought it would be the worse thing ever! Dps + MM?)

Here how my fights goes. I see an ennemy, I cast Flesh worm around me.

Cast my chilled focus spell, then my focus #4 and axe #1 for vuln stack. I then explode my bone minions (I can do up to 6k damage if both crit). I switch to dagger and use my elite minion stun and my scorpion CC to keep them in range.

I can burst down people really fast with the amount of Vuln I get. I also have vuln sigil on my weapon, so it stack well.

I had some issue vs mesmer, but if it get bad, just port up to you worm. Life saver, I love my Flesh worm.

Overall, I didn’t try in sPvP, but in WvW it’s really effective. Too bad I miss staff range, but with my worm I can charge in a group, and just port back in safety.

With a minion army, you also hit Door for a lot of damage. Our Elite minion activate hit the door like 10 time on use.

Also note, the buggy Minion AI is still a pain in the kitten I have to charge people for my bone minon to explode, since sometime they just won’t go to them.

But seriously, It’s a surprinly good and fun build!

Still, for that might, you are using utility slot for weak signet? I mean the life transfer activate is reallyy weaaak, and the other is bugged.

Post the result, but I really doubt this skill. Even if you get 6 more might, is it worth sacrificing a utility slot that could be BiP (10 might) or any other good utility? for 3 might each :P

My Hidden Escape mecanism :

People rarely use it, but I started use it this week as a gimmick MM build.

Flesh Worm : The activate ability is a teleport to the worm. People tend to underestimate this ability. It’s instant, and leave people confused “A Necro teleporting/Stealthing!?”.

It has a 1200 range, but don’t worry, even if you are 2000 range away, if you use it, it will port you 1200 range in the worm direction. It’s a 30 sec 1200 port. I use it a lot in WvW since I’m not longer a staff user, I got a really short range. I charge, DS, blow my bones minions for 3k damage each and when I’m low I port back and heal.

You can also use it to…. kill people! Yeah! Somoene is chassing you, run to a cliff, summon your worm not far from it, like 1200 range 600 range. Continu to the cliff, that kitten warrior is closing the gap and is going to hit you hard. Fake a jump down the cliff, but just before jumping, port to the worm. As soon as your ported, DS and fear the warrior…. down the cliff!!

The last part is only for fun, since it doesn’t work often.

P.S : The downside of worm teleport is, it doesn’t work with terrain level. What I mean is, If you are on the ground, and you cast your worm on a wall, you won’t be able to port up there. It will port you at the same height, at the wall position.

What it mean is (I tried and died doing it :P) When you want to fake a cliff jump, you have to port before jumping. Or else it won’t work, and you will die.

P.S 2 : Flesh Worm doesn’t suffer from our Stupid Minion AI, and can do some good damage. Around 800-1k damage a hit. But he got a slow attack animation. 1200 range attack is also not bad!

I agree that traits “on falling” are mostly useless, even in WvW you are wasting a traits slot for this? But at least, every class got it, so it’s no shame.

Death Shiver : Apply vulnerability for 10 seconds every 3 seconds to nearby enemies while in Death Shroud.

I tried this one in a Heavy Vulnerability build, thinking it could be really useful.

But after testing it, it’s actually pretty bad. It apply 1(!) stack of vul every 3(!) sec in a very very short range. That’s so bad, Vulnerability is already not our best debuff, it’s not helping. Better stay in normal form and use Axe, or take those 10 point and put them in SR for Vuln on Life blast (2 stack every sec).

Engineer got a trait like ranger that make them invis on CC.

I’M lost here?

Borliss Pass actually WON the match up last week, im a tier they never won before. It was a really close fight and everybody said this was the best week in this tier.

This week, GoM might have been getting more number, but this is still an awesome fight between AR and BP.

What happened at BP? You guys are having the best weeks since release and you are leaving?

I’m lost really.

Wow Thanks Enenion didn’t know that!

About Terror, I don’t think it’s that bad. If you focus on Fear, it still free damage on a CC.
I used to have it on my Fear Heavy Build, but fear just doesn’t feel long enought to focused on.

Reaper Precision : 90 second CD is waaaaay over the top. Could be good oherwise.

Siphoned Power : Does it work? Never see it really. Most of the time, when I’m at 25% hp, I’m dead right after. Especially since you gain might ON HIT. You can’t suffer many hit at 25%hp.

I should say : Not counting Reanimator.

I think everyone know Reanimator is the worse, but it’s so bad I think we can consider it bugged.

Just a topic for fun since I’m at work.

Which trait do you think is the worse trait in our arsenal? (Bugged traits doesn’t count! :P)

Edit : I forgot, Reanimator is so bad, we will place it it the bugged section. So reanimator isn’t an option, or this poll would be useless.

I would say :

Signet Power -> Activating a signet gives you three stacks of might for 10 seconds.
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Seriously, I don’t know if it’s the worse, but every time I come upon this trait, I wonder : Does anyone really use this?

Signet are on 60 sec CD minimum! we have one 90 and one 180 cd. With the 20% reduction, it’s about 48 sec minimum.

Our 2 low cd signet have useless activation, one is bugged and the other is a really weak life syphon. Not taking in account that you lose this passive for 60 sec.

But even with the CD and the weak activation, it could still be an option for some signet focused crazy necro.

But… 3 might for 10 sec? Really? 3 miiiiight?

Really, I love the might buff. But 3 might for this is so weak. It’s useless.

Does anyone use that trait?

I’m sure you can find a worse trait!

Just to add to Hisazul post.

It’s actually true. Now when I want to try a new a build I

1. Make my build on a trais builder
2. Go on GW2pedia and check if any of my traits are bugged.

Seriously, that’s the most important step in creating a new build.

Not to sound like a fan boy (far from it), but I doubt the DEV are ignoring us.

2-3 of them wrote on our forum like 1 week ago, saying they were working on the pet AI, and trying to work on Necro general bug. It’s no easy task.

I will be the first to say they got rushed to release the game, and they way too many bug to be decent. Really, even by MMORPG standart, the amount of bug in GW2 is crazy.

But they are working on it right now, and I’m sure they are doing everything they can.

I hope the 15th november will be the patch we are all waiting for!

P.S : I want to use my Axe

Nah, I love the idea behind DS. It’s not the best thing right now, but it still good.

I don’t want a copy of guardian style.

Well it completly obliterad a Minion Master Necromancer.

Does it also destroy engineer turret? I don’t think so.

MM Necro = Already kittened by bad AI minion.

MM Necro with MOA bird = You lose any attack like everyone for 10 sec, but you also lose all your minion. So even after the 10 sec, you still lose like 50% of your dps, and they are on cooldown. The shorstest cooldown with traits is 16 sec, so it still 6 sec without minion. It also dispel our ELITE summon.

But If it’s the same solution as Lich form (If we use lich or plague, we lose our minion), the DEV said on necro forum that it was not done on purpose. It was actually a bug that they were trying to bypass.

Might be the same thing for the MOA bird, they are prolly working on it, so MOA bird doesnt dispel the summon.

Well he did say it was our fault in the example he gave! :P

He would still be there if it wasn’t of our massive 15 man zerg with our single deadly golem.

:D

Elemental is better.

Necro Mark are only good if you traits for it (few build doesn’t trait for staff). Also, they dont do crazy damage. If you use it with epidemic, you can do some damage, but usualy people just cure condition and come back.

Perssonnaly, the best `Wall AoE caster for me would be engineer with grenade build

1500 range + no CD #1 + grenade barrage + condition = crazy.

Seriously, Engineer are prolly the best Siege machine around.

Sorrows Furnance is welcome in this tier!

As long as you don’t get any mass transfer.

Us and Borliss Pass are going to be there to party with you guys!

Now that fair weather guild like FiST are quitting BP, only the true warrior are still there. Let’s continu this war! Still a close match up!

Hakato.9650:

First of all, I was not on at the garrison fight so it wasn’t my defense. While you guys took our garrison we took all of Anvil Rock. So who won there?

So you won, and you are still quitting?

I’m not sure I understand?

Encounter a 1v1 at a random supply camp? {checks for Class, [Necro,Ranger]}
/Charge!!!!

Encounter a 1v1 at a random supply camp? {checks for Class, [Mesmer]}
/Run for your life

Encounter a 1v1 at a random supply camp? {checks for Class, [Thief]}
MsgBox "Reminder : This player will ether burst you in 2 hit, run away with acrobatic jump and warp arrow, or simply go invis and stealth cap.
/Ignore the player and go away

Simple trick

In DS form, use your burst then cast your #2 in ennemy direction. As soon as you cast it, dispel DS and run to him with dagger. The #2 projectil will continu to travel and hit, and port you to the ennemy. With dagger out, you will port and attack rigth away.

It simple, but it’s really useful in pvp when people keep moving and its hard to lend daggers attacks.

Also, if you use a lot of Well, use your fear to keep people inside the circle. You need good positionning, but fear being instant, people won’t be able to dodge, and 2 fear can prolly keep them inside the well the entire time. You can also use spectral graps, but it can be hard to land.

Simple tricks most people knows, but if you didn’t

Seems like you got bored of Fighting doors Hakato

Well, I’m sad to hear that AR have been too much of a challenge for you. But I know the rest of the players on BP will continu fighting as long as they can.

If your defence couldn’t hold vs 1 Golem and 10-15 player, imagine what will happen if you fight on an upper tier server.

Hakato, now known as a server hopper!

Come back on BP, so we need your day capping so the score stay the same!

Won’t happen.

Everyclass works like that.

As soon as our bugs are resolved, we should be good to go!

Necro is Good

I always thought +Healing didn’t affect Dagger #2, good to know.

I think you have some good point.

About Well of blood, I think it’s situational. I’m about 90% of the time in WvW. I move around during fight, and I always have condition on me. I think in dynamic WvW fights, CC is better for me overall, even with the healing well traits. Consuming a cripple, a poison and a burn can be vital in WvW.

But It was more about the +300 healing stats, and you are right they affect more abilities then I thought. But to say it’s a small bonus would be wrong. +300 cond damage isn’t minor. It’s pretty good in my opinion. That’s like 3 exotic.

I see your point, but I still think healing is lacking if you compare to secondary stats of other traits line.

Convince me more! :P

Hey hey, just wrote a question about Blood traits too.

I can at least answer one of your question :

All syphon abilities (traits ) doesn’t use the +healing bonus.

Hi All!

Just questionning myself right now.

I would love to have a Vampire type necro, life stealing my ennemies!

But I have an issue with going in the blood traits line tho : I feel like I’m kittening myself.

Right now, I’m running a 30|0|10|0|30 build. It’s a strong dps build but I’m getting bored.

I would sacrifice my 30 in Soul Reaping for 30 in blood, so I can get the healing wells traits and every life syphon traits before.

I don’t really have anything again the traits, even if the healing from syphon is really low. But what is it about the +300 healing you get from going blood?

Am I the only one that think it’s fairly useless to get 300 healing. I could get 300 cond damage or 30% boon or 30% conditions. Every other bonus is kinda useful.

But +300 healing? Really? In a class that have like 2 abilities that use + healing(I might be wrong)? I have my skill 6 healing that use it. I think the staff #2 also use it. And that it? Not even talking about the poor +Healing scalling.

It just feel counter efficient for me to go so deep in the blood traits. If at least the traits were better then the others, but no, their nothing special in that line.

It would be so much better if at least our Syphon would use +healing stats, even if it’s only a bit. Just so I have a use for this +300 healing and +5% power to healing from other traits.

Also, I’m not a big fan of vitality ether. We already have a big HP pool, and +healing benefict from thoughtness, but Vit doesn’t change anything. But since other class also have this issue and Vitality help with our DS, it’s not that bad.

What are you guys idea of blood traits? I might be wrong, so I prefer to ask!

This match gonna be between AR and BP! GoM go back to your jumping puzzle.

Last week, it was AR that could decide who would win, now it’s going to be GoM the deciding factor. If they team up on a server, they can change the score a lot.

Like Yesterday evening in EB, GoM was attacking us (nothing wrong in that, that’s part of the 3 way mastch up) and were leaving Red alone for some time. It really played again us, since we had to fight both Blue and Green.

I’m sure they did the same to BP too.

GoM, you are now the deciding Factor

P.S Focus on BP :P

That’s because when you were green you were in a lower tier match up. After the win, you went up a tier and got your kitten kick.

It’s only because you are switching tier, looks at the match up to understand :

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

Camping juming puzzle is part of the war. Stop crying about it.

It’s not bad sportmanship, we aren’t talking about spawn camping where the player are forced to be there. We are talking about JP who are optional. Good for GoM that they camp it, less siege for the ennemies.

Apocalyspe, I would do the same.

You are in WvW after all, I wouldn’t let the ennemies complete a puzzle so they can come back stronger after.

I never camped puzzle tho, I shall try it sometime

And there is nothing wrong about that. I love having a different weapon

But buffing it would help a lot :P stack more vulnerability or Add something more to number 2.

Number 1-2 of Axe just lack anything appealing.

1. Damage + Vul, no combo.

1. Damage and lifeforce.

@The demonic spirit

Since when are Wells a condimancer skill? :P Wells are mostly for Powermancer.

I tried condimancer, MM and powermancer. I personally prefer powermancer, but condimancer is as effective.

In PVE, MM was good. But as soon as there AI bugged, I was left with such a low dps, it was sad. In End Game dungeon, your minion will always die. You will more often then not be fighting alone.

Also, minions stats not being affected by our stats is just dull for me. It mean stacking offensive stats won’t be as efficient as other build. You will have to rely on defensive stats.

MM can be fun, but at endgame I wouldn’t recommend it until they debug there AI at least.

Good Job Ascii!

But evenw ith those test, I skill think Axe would deserve a little buff.

It’s not bad, but Dagger just seems to do better!

I don’t think the locust stack longer if you have more boon time.

Locus doesn’t seem to be a boon, I think you can only make it last longer by traitings for Warhorn.

Didn’t test tho.

P.S Warhorn #5 + Dagger is ownage

@Arani

Because I always try to pick the less played/“underpowered”(or people think they are) class in a game, that why I played engineer (Now I know they aren’t UP, but they were underplayed) and Necro (Underplayed, and people think they are UP).

Also, I’m always WvW with my friend, and I don’t want to take the same class as him. He took Mesmer because he wanted to be a killing machine and heard that mesmer was the class to go for WvW.

I’ll tell you, he isn’t disapointed.

I’m not trying to say Mesmer are OP, I didn’t play all class so I can’t say that. But after rolling with him, I can say they are really efficient. The class design is really good in WvW.

Oh and forgot to say why I don’t recommend Necro. Necro is a good choice too, but most people think they are UP, so maybe it’s harder to be efficient with a Necro. It’s not because I love it that everyone will love it too.

I don’t understand why people reply that Power isn’t viable?

I used to play a condimancer, but I switched because I thought people had too many option to remove condition in pvp. I’m not saying it’s useless, it’s still really good. But it was annoying me.

So I went powermancer, even if people said it wasn’t viable.

I WvW a lot, I doesn’t even have half my gear as exotic, but it still kick kitten I have no trouble with any class.

I have low hp, low toughtness, so Thieves can 3-4 shot me. But they still have to HIT me, if you react fast, they will have a hard time reaching you.

I think powermancer are viable and a lot of fun, stop the hating.

And by the way, I too, find the axes are lacking. I tried them again yesterday, 10 min after I switched back to dagger.

I nobodies take Axe Training over the other traits in power build. 15% damage and cooldown on 3 skill over 20% damage at 50% hp on ALL skill, no brainer for me!