Guild Wars 2

I personally was disappointed with the chest simply because it wasn’t WvW focused enough. Definitely better than other LW chests in the past have been, but this was the first WvW LW and I expected the results to be more WvW centered than “make me rich” centered. Should have been liquid WEXP and siege or badge focused… And possibly a skin with guild emblem… That would have felt like a good reward for a WvW achievement.

Better rewards for top place servers should be limited to the finishers, which probably shouldn’t be limited use. That’s really my only complaint.. Not that it didn’t make me rich but that it didn’t feel game mode appropriate.

Elmo Benchwarmer.3025:

Anyway have fun and I wish you good luck with all your future projects!

Fair enough man, I’m happy to agree to disagree. It’s so much better than degrading into omgwtfusuxorz arguments.

nothing.7941:

We did lose to Ebay for months, but it was a different Ebay.

Wait, there’s another EBay? What are the chances…

This is true. Something I’ve said before (in this thread even I think) is that players have to help other players out. Everyone on the map benefits from you performing the task you perform… they should be kicking back to you for performing it, or take their turn to let you go out and do some other stuff – otherwise this game is just work for you now too. Our guild works this way, I don’t see why others wouldn’t either. If yours doesn’t, they need to re-evaluate their priorities. One of the best things about playing an MMO is the opportunity to play with other people, and part of that is helping them accomplish their goals. Being that you are a team player – as are the many scouts and watchers out there – I’m willing to bet that a lot of other players like you and appreciate what you do and would be more than happy to thank you for your efforts if you would ask for help.

Frosch.7809:

Khayoss.2019:

BP and EBay say no more WP’s at home for you YB!

So you admit that your servers have teamed up?

It was a nice try, i hope EBay enjoyed the visit we made in return to their BL. Cheers!

Funny story, we had a 2 pronged attack going against Bay and Garrison simultaneously. As we blasted down the outer door of Bay it turned green and respawned right before our eyes. It seems that BP had the same idea at exactly the same time. :|

Elmo Benchwarmer.3025:

Khayoss.2019:

/snip

I on the opposite think that your attitude is totally wrong.

You make it sound like gaming was an epic task, a daily struggle to survive, like you were on a holy crusade for awesomeness.

But this is just a game. A video game. There is nothing epic to it. Nothing you can do or make in here is of any importance. Nothing what you did in a video game before is of any importance either. Same stands for what I did in video games before (your not the only adult in here, although you like to make it sound that way). So trying to make players think they are special when they go out day after day to farm champions is just lying to them.

Games should be about fun, having a good time with a couple of friends on voice communication, some laughs. That’s all what it is about. And that’s why this whole “work” argument in a video game is completely wrong.

If this was an FPS on Xbox I’d totally agree with you. MMO’s and RPG’s in general, are meant to be a bit more long term oriented than that FPS or adventure games though. They are supposed to hold out rewards that take time to get to so that the game isn’t ‘over’ in just a few short hours. I could have gotten my lute over the course of 4 or 5 months, but I wanted it now… so I did what I needed to do in order to get what I wanted. I didn’t ‘need’ an epic weapon in EQ, and I didn’t stay up till 4am to get it… it took me nearly 3 years to finally get that weapon without grinding for it, but it felt all the more rewarding when I finally turned in the stuff to that quest mob.

So let me ask you something…

True story: Personally, I love crafting in MMO’s – it’s one of the first thing I check out when I’m looking at playing a new one to see what kind of systems they have in place and if I think it’s going to be fun or not. I also happen to hate running around and harvesting materials… it feels like a waste of my time and I feel like I’m staring at my GPS mini-map moreso than just playing the game. I know I’m going to need those materials to craft… but I don’t want any part of the most efficient way to get them. Alternate methods exist, like breaking down gear or being rewarded for quests/zone completion, things that I personally find a lot more fun than harvesting. Those ways are not as fast as just going out and harvesting the kitten nodes, though. I can also buy everything I need off of the TP, but that can be prohibitively expensive and lets say I don’t have that kind of money.

Would it be reasonable for me now to complain that I am being forced to engage in a game mode that I don’t enjoy in order to craft, because by not harvesting my mats other people are now achieving the goal I set for myself faster than I can? After all, it’s my free time and this is a video game… I’m supposed to enjoy it, and now by not engaging in some activities that I don’t want to other people are going to get to be master crafters a lot easier than I am.

Atherakhia.4086:

Rangers actually don’t gain full benefit from the armor or weapons either.

Rangers, as a class, have the one seriously legit complaint about ascended gear regardless of game mode. Their class design (being that pets derive no benefit from their owner’s gear, plus their own benefit from stats on the armor they wear is scaled down because of the fact that the pet accounts for significant portion of damage and utility) essentially screws them harder and harder each time a new level of gear is added.

Incredible fight AkiSakura! Paper bay always brings all the boys to the yard.

Elmo Benchwarmer.3025:

But the point is I don’t want to PvE. It’s my free time. I want to spend my free time the way I enjoy most. The moment the game forces you to do a certain thing in order to keep playing something is definitely wrong. That’s the moment it stops being fun and it becomes a chore.

I don’t really get this attitude. Maybe it’s the old school gamer in me, but I just don’t see what the big deal is. You don’t want to go do PvE? Great, don’t. No body is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to get ascended armor. The difference in stats is just a few points and is not going to make bad players indestructible.

And this stuff isn’t even a grind! Guild Wars 2 has absolutely no long drawn out challenging items to acquire in comparison to other games. In Vanguard I literally spent 2 weeks alone on an island devoid of all player activity hunting the same mobs in order to get an ultra rare instrument for my bard. Back in original EQ days we had epic quests that were truly epic – multiple boss mobs that were on two, three, four day spawn timers that would maybe drop one of the item you wanted, that you then had to /random against all of the other players who also needed it to attain their epics. Boss spawns at 4am and you are asleep? Too bad, better luck next week. This game is an absolute joke for how easy it is to get the ‘rare’ stuff, and yet people still complain that it’s not just handed to them when they log in.

Honestly, what do we want ANet to do? Keep track of how much time we spend in a tower twiddling our thumbs or building arrow carts, and then send us a legendary for our efforts? Not to minimize those efforts, we all do them because that’s what it takes to win… but seriously, how in the world can ANet truly reward those basic parts of WvW? They would be so easily botted and exploited it wouldn’t be funny, and we would have an army of new PvE’ers running into keeps and building 100 rams to ‘achieve’ something. And even if you are on a server where stuff doesn’t flip that often, there’s open field fighting, and players drop loot too when they are killed. T1-ers can maybe legitimately complain about Dragonite drop rates in WvW – I personally think the drop rate should be modified by how long the keep has been owned – but if it’s true that an evening of WvW is 4 hours of ZvZvZ with nothing flipping, that’s still 100’s if not 1000’s of players being killed on a nightly basis and dropping bags/chests. I’m on a lowly 4th place silver server and last week I got nearly 2000 kills + 45 rank chests – amid days of scouting and upgrading and watching our side of EBG at that. I’ve seen the FA and SBI zergs recently. I’ve seen TC back in the day and know what kind of numbers are out there… the loot you can farm against that number of people is incredible. So, are we also drawing lines in the sand against having to go out and PK in a PvP mode too?

The ‘best/most unique/coolest’ equipment in any game should involve – to an extent – participation in each aspect of the game – and that includes crafting or any other alternate advancement or gaming method the game includes. It’s there as a carrot to branch out and try everything. It’s not a requirement in order to play, and you aren’t less of a person for not having it… but if you desperately want it you have to be willing to earn it. Not just throw a tantrum because you can’t get it by standing around and watching the game be played.

BP and EBay say no more WP’s at home for you YB!

I get that, guarding and scouting are the most under-appreciated acts in WvW. However, the rest of the team that benefits from those actions need to step up and reward that action in the absence of a game mechanic that does so. Our raid leaders send gold and mats to our scouts in lieu of what they would receive in the field of combat because our whole guild benefits from their actions… if others are similarly sacrificing their time to make your game experience better, then show your appreciation for it so that they don’t have to be held back for their generosity with their playtime! Power’s in your hands man!

Dayra.7405:

As there is no third-side the player capacity per side and map can be 50% higher, than now. (which result in 450% total-capacity per side on 2-sided matches on 3 maps instead of the 400% in 3-sided matches on 4 maps.)

That would be great for servers with large populations, but that would further punish servers with smaller populations. We already have matches in silver league where servers with long queues and large presences on multiple maps are facing servers with no queues are only able to field a presence on a single map… so now that server that already outmans its opponent would be allowed to further outman the opponent. That just further rewards bandwagoning, server stacking and ktraining for the easy way out instead of promoting dispersing and loyalty.

Then in T1 if stuff doesn’t change hands often enough then you will have to spend some time in PvE I guess…. Dragon timers make that easy though. To be honest to get my achievements for those dragon events I guested to JQ and BG. You guys have the best PvE coverage as far as I can see, and the dragon fights are actually fun if you do them occasionally. You choose to be on an overcrowded server, so that choice may necessitate some sacrifice in the order of doing a small amount of PvE. And if what was said above that it won’t require dragonite, that’s even easier. I have a bank area stacked with T5 and T6 mats all from WvW too… If you aren’t vendoring everything you get then T1 players should have that at least too right?

Ascended weapons from crafting were incredibly easy to get. You really don’t need to venture out from the world of WvW to get the stuff… And crafting to 500 doesn’t take that long. I’ve got enough dragonite in the bank to make 5 pieces of armor – I think. – when it finally launches, and I got it all from WvW, and that’s the hardest part to get. I think by disagreeing with Ascended armor we are essentially drawing a line in the sand against crafting. Ascended trinkets already drop in WvW from lords and chests, its just slower than crafting.

Hell no! 3 way for the win. And EBG??? The borderlands are where all the really good skill groups and guilds roam. EBG is dominated by disorder on the majority of servers… The borderlands hold the real battles. You would have to be crazy to replace that with another EBG. Either that or you are only interested in the almighty KTrain and don’t like the resistance the borderlands offer.

If it makes you feel better we just lost a fully upgraded tower to the YB zerg in EBG with over 500 supply in it…

We have fortified towers and a waypoint in our keep as well as having our stuff sieged to the hilt in EBG. Once we repelled the ktrain a couple times it stopped rolling on our stuff. It took about 10 of us a few hours of solid escorting and supply running to build the siege… Do that and then they will find softer targets.

I find it a bit funny that Yaks Bend are now the bad guys for having crazy numbers. We’re 1 week removed from a match with SBI who can make Yaks numbers look very silver league, and everyone has matched up with FA who can make the SBI zerg look kinda small. I guess it’s all relative. Yay for last week of league play and all that…

Don’t worry YB, I still <3 you. The Rally Bot Vortex knows not race, size, level or number. All are welcome to experience the cold embrace of the void.

Evilzara.6378:

I’m disappointed in Ehmry. The past 6h you haven’t attempted to hit Hills in your BL once!

However, YB you had some good tries, especially the one attempt where you broke down the gate but refused to push in and rather just wait outside for some odd reason.

We’ve had the outnumbered buff in our home BL for most of today, unfortunately. Just haven’t been able to muster a good presence. The manpower we have had has mostly been present in EBG. I’ve just been walking around in an omega for most of the day taking towers with whoever I find along the way.

We did do a couple of quick hits at outer over the last 30 mins or so though… I’m sure a guild group will show up soon and make a real play. Fear not Zara, you shall be entertained yet!

ZOMG ALLIANCE! Yaks Bend defending BP’s keeps while they are away zergin’ our home BL!

http://i41.tinypic.com/oqc2sj.jpg

Tainted victory! Yaks Bend forfeit and BP… well, they are forced to still be BP! Also, can I finish any more sentences with exclamation points?!?! YES I CAN! WOOOO!

Melanion.4892:

We try to keep our numbers down. On a busy night we might have 30 guildies with us, and then whatever pugs can follow without a tag.

It’s “sexy people” Claude. Void is an equal opportunity guild group and doesn’t use what is perceived as derogatory terms to discriminate against the organizationally challenged.

NiloyBardhan.9170:

Khayoss.2019:

Guys, there’s a party in EBay’s BL right now and everyone is invited. Yaks is here, BP’s here, we’re here! Orange swords everywhere you look… Bring your friends. Three way queue coming, I can feel it!

I missed if. Any screenshot of the “party”? :p

I only got this one of BP and YB clashing… I was too busy fighting for my life or running to report what I saw back to the commanders. Good times you guys, good times.

http://i40.tinypic.com/24mi3d4.jpg

Noodica.5428:

Yup, whenever we see [Void] , that’s when we know to get our game face on and its always exciting fighting you guys. You guys obviously come out on top most of the time because you run 35-45 and we run 20-25 and you actually know what you’re doing unlike most mindless zergs, but i feel we’re getting better and better every time we see you guys! Keep the awesome fights coming

MM I think was one of the reasons we went and sieged your keep… you guys are fun! BP held that keep with conviction for quite some time last night, was great.

Also, to the YB zerg guarding Stonemist… next time we bring tree tonics, so when you wander alone in the forest be careful about which tree you stop to pee on. It might bite back.

Guys, there’s a party in EBay’s BL right now and everyone is invited. Yaks is here, BP’s here, we’re here! Orange swords everywhere you look… Bring your friends. Three way queue coming, I can feel it!

There’s more than run buffs. Heal blasts and regen, stealth, aegis and stability. Escorting isn’t always a 1 man job depending on who’s doing the hunting and how desperate a keep is for supply.

- Cosmetic items to affect siege weaponry – possibly an item that makes all blueprints you throw down for 2 or 3 hours display guild emblem or follow guild color scheme.
- WvW only armor skins – purchase with gems + badges.
- WvW only finishers, love the idea above someone said your guild emblem on the flag.
- WvW specific food trays maybe? Food that reduces damage to guards/mercs and increases WEXP gain
- Siegerazer mini?
- Different colored commander icons or different commander icon emblems only usable in WvW… maybe even commander icon that is the guild emblem
- Weapon and armor skins that allow for guild emblem – more than just what’s purchasable through guild armorer… whole suit of armor.
- Upgrade assistant – a charge limited item that lets you browse current upgrades in progress for all structures on the current map as well as current supply levels, and queue new upgrades without being physically present in the structure.

There’s probably so much more… WvW could be a gold mine for them if they really wanted it to be.

Ya its one of those thankless jobs like refreshing siege and scouting… Vital to victory, but at a cost of personal gain. I personally think WEXP should absolutely be rewarded… That has no value to gold farmers. Our guild takes it on itself to reward those jobs monetarily by identifying the scouts and compensating them for the time spent with gold, dyes etc. But it would be much better if the game made those doing it feel like they were earning something, plus the biggest reward for a WvWer is WEXP, and we can’t share that.

I had all of the season 1 achievements except for merc camps completed by the middle of week 2… The only ones I had to go out of my way to do was the jumping puzzles, the ruins and big spender (since there was nothing I particularly needed I just bought some extra supply traps). Combined those all took not much more than an hour though. Everything else came without even tracking or targeting specific achievements during natural course of play.

Color assignment in the matches is done at random, not based on rank as it use to be. In the leagues the colors for each match were determined before the league play started. However, season 1 is finished this Friday and we will be back to random draw for opponents and color. So just be patient and wait until your server draws green. That or put together a huge group of map completionists and go push green.

Yes I would love that… I would also love some way to earn new weapon skills too, allowing an experienced player to really customize his or her weapon set and utility skills for their style of WvW play would be really great.

3 8-hour matches a day would be too short if all structures reset considering how much time, money and effort is involved in waypointing a keep. If upgrades cost significantly less, or could be paid for with badges, and time to upgrade were adjusted drastically – like if you could fully upgrade to T3 in less than an hour with full supply lines – then this might work. Not resetting structures poses another set of problems as you still enter the next match at a huge advantage or disadvantage.

3 matches a week seems too few, because for servers playing against servers that night cap the crap out of them will still lose every match regardless of when reset time takes place. It would have to be split into more small matches that lessened the impact of losing everything while there’s no one to defend.

I’ve also always wondered if the matches would be more fun if they were just shorter… a 3 day match could be good, even if you were outmanned and facing better coverage, a server could conceivably push itself to perform above expectation for a shorter sprint.

Love the concept presented overall though. Keep working with it and see where it goes.

Find a WvW focused guild and run with them… that’s the best thing you can do. And if there’s a specific aspect of WvW that interests you, but your build or class isn’t working for that aspect, you are going to have to be willing to experiment and see how to make it work.

Myro Pyro.1749:

Lol so what I’m assuming is that you are talking about Abyss. And if you think we have the same mentality as we did in DH, you are mistaken. Like you said we play to have fun, but Abyss is always out to fight through any type of adversity. We don’t quit even through a hard fight or a tough matchup. We persevere. That was the old Abyss you are speaking of back on DH. A lot has changed, a lot has improved. So if you want to talk about us Ash, talk about us as the present, not the past.

Abys and BAEST were kings of the hill for SBI this week. We loved our fights with both of you guys. Keep your heads up and we hope to see you at some point in the future… you guys were great – nothing but respect from us at VOID.

Xsorus.2507:

Just by looking at the updates I can see what happened

They held their own against you during the day, then at night, you 695 them when no one was on.

Clearly you pulled off an impressive 1v2 against doors.

You are persistent! SBI had a lot of doors to knock at too had you cared to come press EBay. We have no night coverage guilds… none whatsoever. In fact, your greatest gains against EBay in previous matches were also against doors. BP also had a huge morning force that we had no coverage for… golum rushing our home BL each day before we were awake. PvD was a factor for them too.

If you go here: http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/44/69
There’s one major uptick on reset night when we did hit full map domination – on a reset night that’s impressive against anyone, I don’t care who you are. From then on out the score stays pretty manageable all the way until Wednesday afternoon when we broke the match wide open – not while they were sleeping, but through the afternoon and into the evening. We used quick moving strikes like this to keep their ‘one army’ tactic at bay, not ever letting them get into a position to respond or to go on offense and that finally demoralized the alliance and took the win.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ot0wR76uMo

Regardless, your specific statement was:

not even Blackgate could handle a 2v1 in this game..No server can..

This is false. A server (us) has successfully overcome a direct full week long 2v1. Coverage and numbers played a part in the victory, sure, but also played a part for the opposing forces who lost too. Nonetheless, you said specifically that no one ever could do this, and you are wrong. So man up and admit defeat on the point. Extra points for doing it without qualifiers.

Xsorus.2507:

You mean this match up

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/Tier-5-EB-BP-AR/first

The one where you had a 30k lead over the 2 servers before they decided to double team you?

Is that the matchup you’re referring to?

Yes that is the matchup thread I am referring to. But it appears that you have proved me wrong on one detail. The week number is not what I remember… You have to fast forward to about page 10 to get to it (the thread you linked is a multi-week thread that we started to carry). So, you will have to forgive my old brain for some sequence being out of order… We faced the same servers for 3 months and some things blur together.

To reiterate though, it was from get-go. Not an alliance made after a lead was accumulated… the two servers carved our home BL in half on reset night and then again Saturday and Sunday. The entire week only roamers and randoms from the two servers attacked eachother, and AR allowed itself to be leached for points in some areas by BP keeping the match close for as long as possible.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/Tier-5-EB-BP-AR/page/11#post2007448

The week is a vivid memory for many of us. As I said, it was a week of growth in both tactics and communication, and in numbers and coverage. It was fun times man. And you weren’t there… so as much as you think you know everything about every match, you are going to have to face the fact that you are wrong.

Well, this match is over. YB=20k, EBay=9k, BP=8k. Yaks holding 580ppt, EBay 105 and BP 10… Can we just call it GG and all go do some epic scale battles in OS and see if we can break the place?

Xsorus.2507:

Blackgate won’t take exception to it, because they know for a fact they couldn’t handle a 2v1, and EB couldn’t handle a 2v1 either.

There has been only 1 server that’s been able to pull off a come back on a 2v1, and that was the very beginning of the game with HoD

That’s nice that you think you know everything about every match that’s ever been played… but you are very wrong on this point. Week 16, Ehmry Bay vs the Borlis Rock Union.

Anvil Rock and Borlis Pass formed an alliance pre-reset and carried it out for the entirety of the week – but were still defeated by the ‘evil empire’, Ehmry Bay – who won by a larger margin of victory than it had in previous matches when facing the same two servers fighting without an alliance. In weeks before the matchup we had faced each other already a few times, and if you look at the scores, they were much closer until the alliance forced us to up our game.

What was magic about it from our perspective is that when the two other servers came out the gate like rabid dogs and attacked us with everything they had, our WvW community responded favorably. We actually grew in number, our coverage improved over that week to respond to the new threat and our commanders made leaps and bounds in cross guild and cross map coordination. In the space of about 36-48 hours we made improvements that we had not been able to achieve in months before that.

EBay is a fairly different server now than it was then… maybe we could handle a double team from lower ranked servers, maybe we couldn’t. Who knows. I’m sure we will find out soon enough. But regardless, you guys aren’t the first server to face this situation. SBI’s collective reaction to it differed to ours quite significantly though, and that’s what I find the most interesting.

Xsorus.2507:

Did you really just say having a server not putting up a fight all week is much better then having another server help you gang bang another server, to the point they were even knocking doors open and letting you walk in and take towers?

Ireally did. No chance of stepping on toes, more karma/wexp, and every blowout has at least one weaker server to leach from.

As for saying we should of been able to handle a 2v1, Really? not even Blackgate could handle a 2v1 in this game..No server can..

I’d say just wait till you have to deal with it, but lets be honest..you have to be a threat to warrant a 2v1 in the first place.

Ehmry Bay has already successfully beaten a 2 server alliance that began with reset and lasted to the last whistle… We have already proven that it is possible, and im pretty sure Blackgate takes exception to that statement. Just because you can’t do it doesn’t mean no one can. Recognition of the situation either galvanizes your servers forces and resolve or splinters it. When we realized that our easy victory had just become a grind it out in the mud grudge match, we went one route when it happened to us… and you clearly went the other.

DootmasterX.3025:

I’m sorry, but while I do admire the spite YB is showing SBI this post of your is such bullcrap that I can’t take it seriously. You’re basically describing what your server did to my server NSP and IOJ last week. No respect, endless spawn camping, golem rushes on paper keeps with outmanned buffs, sit spam, forum trash talk, you name it.

Your server, SBI, FA, basically all acted the same. I don’t see any difference in your tactics or behavior. I never expected mercy or an easy time against any of your servers, but I do find it funny reading YB and SBI people going back and forth and whining about the very same things you do to any other server when given the same chance / circumstances.

Drop the holier than thou routine, it’s embarrassing.

I’m not from Yaks Bend… you need to read signatures.

Krash.9486:

Yeah gratz EB…you did it all on your own…you are so awesome and should be so proud of taking second place even going up against the likes of YB and SBI….and I don’t care what anyone says you look nothing like YBs female dogs in this…not at all…

Thank you! That means a lot to all of us.

JetLu.1874:

So, you saying Anet created this WvW for cheating and going against the rules? OMG, tell me it isn’t so, I am crushed. I love it when other servers bring up whining, when in fact you are just stating the facts as you see them. Get over this whining, cry baby kitten, a fact is a fact is a fact, PERIOD!!!!

I don’t understand what you are saying anymore. Are you accusing me of whining and asking me to cry? Are you saying that what I posted is not a fact and that your calling us cheaters is? Or are you agreeing with me? So confused…. I didn’t even use the word whining in my post.

ExoGeni.9248:

Why is Anet not enforcing their own CoC with regards to the obvious map match manipulation.

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/

Rule 22:
“While participating in Plaver-vs-Player (PvP) gameplay, you will not participate in any form of match manipulation. Match manipulation is defined as any action taken to fix or manipulate the outcome of a match or alter or manipulate the rankings or ratings of the ladder. This also includes disrupting other people’s game experience by not actively participating in matches in good faith, a.k.a leeching.”

Why even have rule Anet if no one is going to enforce them?

This doesn’t apply to the 2v1 aspect of WvW. Quote from Mike Ferguson’s developers blog back in February 2012 describing the reason 3 servers would be included in the match, instead of a straight 1v1:

We knew right away that we wanted three teams fighting against one another on a series of huge maps in the Mists (our world vs. world battleground) and that each team would be composed of an entire server full of players. Including three forces in world vs. world acts as an excellent balancing factor, preventing one team from growing too powerful and ruining the competitive balance of the game. Two teams can gang up to counter a more dominant third team, a dynamic that simply isn’t possible with only two opposing factions.

So, to all SBI that are complaining that this is unfair, underhanded, poor sportsmanship, against the rules, or otherwise cheating: We are playing WvW exactly as designed, intended and desired by those who created it.

Xsorus.2507:

Also, you keep talking about fairweathers….Don’t get me wrong, SBI has a lot of them…. But who’s the fair weather…Us who almost came in 2nd despite a 2v1 and some serious hand holding

and who you barely managed to break probably what.. 100k by the end of the night on..

Or you

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/40/119

Who couldn’t handle a 1v1v1 before you gave up.

World English Dictionary

fair-weather

— adj
1. suitable for use in fair weather only
2. not reliable or present in situations of hardship or difficulty (esp in the phrase fair-weather friend )

I can’t remember, was it you that said you were playing a lot of LOTRO this week? This has been hard times for SBI who have repeatedly claimed that their numbers are severly depleted from normal…

Xsorus.2507:

So….Our Chest Thumping is what made Yaks want to tag team us.. that is why before the match even started they asked for Ebays Help..

Gotcha.

Leagues have been going on for 6 weeks now. You’ve seen both of us before. In fact, you probably still have blood from my corpse on your boot from the last matchup.

Vyrance.1723:

We were ranked 2nd in this league, with Yaks 3rd and Ebay 4th. Neither of you are hardly fielding the low numbers IoJ is. And at some times of the day just one of your servers outnumbers us. During our strong times of the day we can get to +300 even while fighting both of you, but at the other times it’s near impossible to do anything against both of you. WvW is all about numbers, and this is no different.

This is exactly my point. When server #3 is half the population of EBay, maybe less, it takes minimal resources to fight that 2nd front. It over-inflates the margin of victory and is even better for the victor than having an alliance. Yaks Bend and Ehmry Bay have taken that advantage away and forced you to actively fight a 2 front war.

grifflyman.8102:

Khayoss.2019:

NevirSayDie.6235:

Imagine playing WvW, except the enemy has twice as many people as you and your side doesn’t get to use supply. That is this week for SBI.

I don’t usually request to join parties after people kill me, but I have been this week. I usually say something like “We have 15 ppt, please stop griefing and double-teaming us.” They say, “lol no.”

Please stop defending these two servers. You may not be one of the guilty parties, but it makes no sense to defend stuff like this.

So what you are asking for is the same mercy you showed us on EBay in week 2 of leagues where you won by 300k, relentlessly farmed and spawn camped us in our own BL and told us on the forums we should be grateful to have had the opportunity to learn from the godlike WvW tactics machine that is SBI? Gotcha.

Neither Yaks or EBay is defending the griefers. But we both have people on our servers chewing through supply in our keeps and running golems off of cliffs day and night. Go to the matchup thread and see how many pics have been posted by the other servers too complaining about this. Playing the victim after being one of the most generally abusive and condescending servers we’ve ever faced just isn’t going to fly.

Because judging a server by what people say on the official forum is the proper way to go about it. Are you an imbecile?

I don’t think anyone would play GW2 if they visited these forums first.

Re-read the post. In-game actions coupled with forum representation combined give a pretty good idea of a servers identity. The 100 man group that sat in our garrison nearly every morning of the week waiting to be fed bags didn’t have to post to make their intentions or opinions of us clear. The zergs who stood outside of our spawn portals and pulled people into their vortex to be insta-downed, then stripped and jumped on their corpses naked also did not need to post on the forums to paint a picture of who your server is. You, personally, may have acted with some dignity in our last match… I have no idea, no way of knowing. But it is not a stretch to say that an overwhelming number showed us absolutely no respect.

http://i40.tinypic.com/bdlf15.jpg

If your server wants to play like this, power to them. There’s nothing against the rules, no abuse of bugs and no violation of the TOS in doing so. But don’t come back later and cry foul when people don’t like it and decide to do something about it. Your server did this to yourselves collectively. The plural ‘you’ made this image and now are seeing the consequences of it.

Other servers who have outmanned and outplayed their opponents have not acted in this way in matches past. /laugh and /sit can easily be replaced with /bow and /salute. Spawn camping can easily be replaced with capturing and actively defending structures and supply lines. Even a roflstomp can be done with some sportsmanship by the winner if they choose to do so. Enough on SBI chose the alternate route that you won’t get much sympathy from many of your league opponents to this point.

Vyrance.1723:

At least us and IoJ weren’t holding hands

Having a nearly uncontested source of points for the week is even better and easier to handle than an ally. People seem to conveniently forget that while karma training and telling us we are boring opponents.

If SBI was as good as its vocal members seemed to think it was, a 2v1 against servers they had previously beaten separately by hundreds of thousands of points should not have been a problem. But the outcomes of the previous matches, and the SBI reactions to their roflstomp, conveniently ignored all of the elements of that victory.

ExoGeni.9248:

Khayoss.2019:

ExoGeni.9248:

Xavi.6591:

USA is most parts of the world? Got it.

Who said I’m in the US . . . I’m from Canada dude, BC to be more specific.

With distasteful posts like the ones you made earlier, we don’t want you here… I hope someone pees on your igloo.

That’s just blatantly racist against the Inuit people, post reported!

It’s actually poking fun at the fact that many south of the border hold a belief that as soon as you cross over to the Canada side it instantly drops to freezing levels. Being Canadian, you know that. However, you are such a poor sport that losing has embittered you to the point where you are being openly hostile and are looking for excuses to lash out. I think you may have missed some important lessons in kindergarten.

Xsorus.2507:

You’ve been ahead this week because Ebay hasn’t focused you.

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You clearly have forgotten the last matchup with us where we didn’t rely on a 2nd server for help, and had 100k points over you

Your last matchup with Yaks Bend also featured IoJ, the lowest population server of Silver league and the one who well and truly got screwed by this whole ordeal that we called league play. It’s easy to claim how superior you are when you have a 3rd server in the mix that cannot defend itself against you, quite different when there’s not an easy target you can leach points from for every tick of the match.

WvWvW is NEVER 1v1. The 3rd server is ALWAYS a factor in the outcome.

ExoGeni.9248:

Xavi.6591:

USA is most parts of the world? Got it.

Who said I’m in the US . . . I’m from Canada dude, BC to be more specific.

With distasteful posts like the ones you made earlier, we don’t want you here… I hope someone pees on your igloo.

Cheeky.1830:

This is hilarious, I have been laughing hard all week. Yaks and EB have denied an alliance and double teaming us, but suck so bad that they need to double team us order to win. EB can’t take anything on their own so they need big brother Yak to be their bodyguards and hand everything they take over to them and visa versa. Too funny. Don ’t forget Karma is a kitten and it will come back on you 3 fold.

You must have really good abs to handle that for such a prolonged period. Also, I can’t imagine people in the office not getting a bit irritated… this must have been a bit of an awkward week for you.

Xsorus.2507:

Could it possibly be that the reason you were able to hold that lead during offpeak hours is because ebay wasn’t attacking you at all and instead was fighting us and only us.

Hah, jokes on you! EBay doesn’t have any off hour coverage. Oh man, we got you good!